highaltitude.log.20170204

[00:06] <PD3T> mogguh
[00:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BCHAB1 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BCHAB1
[00:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BCHABP after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BCHABP
[00:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03B.E.A.R.S._chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=B.E.A.R.S._chase
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[01:30] <scherm> I know its late over the pond, just seeing if anyone's here
[01:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Riot1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Riot1_chase
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[02:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Blah1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Blah1_chase
[02:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Coul1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Coul1_chase
[02:32] <Ian_> Only the night owls scherm. All akip zzZ. Your late afternoon and eary evening should catch people before they depart for the night.
[02:34] <Ian_> Of course if people realised that you read the scroll back then they could answer you in your absence, confident that you would be reading their advice. A bit difficult to sort out your gps question that way though :)
[02:34] <Ian_> And with that, Good night. (I'm not always here, but read most every word) - Big Brother etc!
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[07:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB
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[09:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RYDE - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RYDE
[09:41] <Darkside> looks like the group launching in victoria had tracking issues
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[10:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M10WX-11 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M10WX-11
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[11:46] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[12:10] <jakeio> Ping Upu!
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[12:28] <jakeio> Is Steve likely to be on the IRC at any point today?
[12:28] <jakeio> I need to ask him a question about an order.
[12:33] <Ian_> jakeio, RocketBoy (Steve) - Don't know, but keep checking back or better still stay connected so that he can message you if he comes up. Best to use channel nicknames so that he gets an alert that his name has been mentioned.
[12:33] <mfa298> the only person likely to know that is Steve.
[12:34] <jakeio> RocketBoy, hello! If you come on would you mind pinging me? Thanks.
[12:34] <mfa298> if you need to contact him best bet is to email or maybe phone (if you can find his number)
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[12:38] <jakeio> Not that urgent! Just need to check that an order I just put through will arrive in time for a launch next weekend.
[12:38] <Ian_> ^^ http://randomsolutions.co.uk/Random_Aerospace/Contact.html
[12:38] <jakeio> Have done so already.
[12:39] <jakeio> Thanks guys!
[12:39] <Ian_> :) The weather seems passably nice, he is maybe squeezing a pico off somewhere
[12:39] <jakeio> Haha.
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[13:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> good propogation on 20m, got a spot from hirfw-6 (k4jcw) from over 5800km :)
[13:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TEST00 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TEST00
[13:56] <Upu> Hey jakeio
[13:56] <jakeio> Hi Upu.
[13:56] <Upu> You pinged ?
[13:57] <jakeio> I was about to buy a stacking header from Uputronics, just that, and discovered that the postage was more than twice the cost of the header. Would it be possible for it to be sent by standard royal mail 1st class?
[13:57] <Upu> Yeah just select collect in store
[13:57] <Upu> Afk
[13:57] <jakeio> OK, thanks.
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[14:01] <jakeio> Done Upu!
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[14:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HABALL - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HABALL
[14:15] <aadamson> SA6BSS-Mike, Thanks Mike, not bad for 12mW on 20m - wow, just checked, 20 is rocking at the moment
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[14:23] <aadamson> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6730484/20-condx.png
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[14:41] <jakeio> Is there a way to see an error log for ssdv.habhub.org uploads?
[14:43] <jakeio> I'm just getting 400 error.
[14:49] <Ian_> The 400 Bad Request error is an HTTP status code that means that the request you sent to the website server, often something simple like a request to load a web page, was somehow incorrect or corrupted and the server couldn't understand it. - As if you didn't know already.
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[14:50] <Ian_> I guess that you need to be able to inspect what you are actually sending, in the absense of logs.
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[14:51] <Ian_> I do notice though that the page is currently empty. PE2BZ Ben was actually proving a neat service with his vistas. So don't know if it's broken or just not been used recently.
[14:52] <Ian_> The problem may not be yours at all.
[14:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> here is the link to the logtail http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/?noreverse
[14:53] <Ian_> Thanks Mike
[14:53] <jakeio> Isn't that just for telemetry?
[14:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> ahh ssdv .... nv
[14:54] <Ian_> That's what I thought, but was willing to be wrong. Good try Mike, no cigar unfortunately.
[14:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> :)
[14:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> here is the packet upload adress as in dl-fldigi http://www.sanslogic.co.uk/ssdv/data.php
[14:57] <SA6BSS-Mike> but getting Invalid request
[14:57] Action: PE2BZ ran out of network ports and antennas on his QRL. Hope to have the SSDV up and running this weekend again
[14:58] <jakeio> So could be server error?
[14:58] <jakeio> Could someone else try an upload of something to test?
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[15:10] <jakeio> Ping Upu?
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[15:32] <scherm> question about habduino GPS lock issue
[15:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W5HGT-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5HGT-11
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[15:54] <PE2BZ> ssdv.habhub.org is accepting SSDV packets with no trouble.
[15:55] <PE2BZ> I have to disable the habitat I noticed, in my gateway setting. I will after the first image completes
[16:02] <jakeio> Damn.
[16:02] <jakeio> I was really hoping it was a server error!
[16:05] <PE2BZ> Share your thoughts.... and your data... I am always a quote wrong from what I mean to type # Ian_ isn´t it ?
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[16:16] <jakeio> PE2BZ, I'm using this code http://paste.md-5.net/tugecixete.py to attempt to upload data stored in a string which stores the bytes of the data encoded with ISO 8859-1.
[16:25] <RocketBoy> whois Majed
[16:25] <RocketBoy> oops
[16:26] <Ian_> RocketBoy jakie was looking for you earlier.
[16:26] <RocketBoy> oh right - any idea what about?
[16:26] <PE2BZ> jakeio I am not the specialist for that.
[16:27] <jakeio> RocketBoy, hi, don't worry, your email covered my questions.
[16:27] <Ian_> seems to have got himself technically side tracked at the moment though. Yes, was wanting to check that an order was going to arrive before he needed it for a launch
[16:27] <Ian_> :)
[16:27] <jakeio> Thanks though Ian_!
[16:28] <RocketBoy> ah - No Probs - it should do :-)
[16:29] <RocketBoy> I have a few order to send out on Monday - orders have picked up in the last couple of weeks
[16:29] <jakeio> I suppose, day length is now good enough for HAB!
[16:30] <Ian_> jakeio can you get your code to print out what it's squirting to the ssdv server, by way of a sanity check. It's all very much beyond me.
[16:30] <RocketBoy> starting to get there
[16:30] <jakeio> Ian_, I can send you the bytes it is sending and what Python thinks is the base-64 encoded version.
[16:30] <Ian_> Depends how much searching you have to do in the Welsh hills.
[16:31] <Ian_> I was thinking of you seeing the bytes sent, I have no expertise in http packet stuff.
[16:32] <jakeio> Well.
[16:32] <jakeio> I know where the error is.
[16:33] <jakeio> Because that code works perfectly in another setting, it's just that line where I'm getting the b64 out that's causing problems.
[16:33] <jakeio> ZgZilPEiAAMwJAAHAEgIASOapITZ1bHTwgBI5rXSMIOKVVCjApc1oT/Q4nApoOaKBR/Qf0LmkJwM0122jrULy7sKDkml/QEqNvbNS0yNcKKdQH9C0hooo/oP6Cmmlppph/QjdOOtc5eSGS5fc2cHFdDISEYjqAa5aRiST155pMaGNnPHNJjrnmhTn6U6oKI3HGKj2kHFSNzSE4ApDImPODR3pHG4EjtTVPHNAh4HNO9qRSAac3TIoAZijFLjmlPTApiFRMnPYVLSIMKBSmmIQ9KiY5NPY0ykAUUUfTZlKmQ7Qth/ydlkohHxQMjClDKp/7FDW9DcGh5lDa3tuz+U
[16:33] <jakeio> Apologies for spam.
[16:34] <jakeio> That's my base 64 string, I'll check it's actually the right length for my data...
[16:34] <jakeio> Aha!
[16:34] <jakeio> I know what's wrong.
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[16:34] <jakeio> Possibly.
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[16:35] <jakeio> Hazar! It works!
[16:35] <jakeio> I forgot, as I'm using LoRa I've been skipping the 0x55 byte at the start of each packet.
[16:35] <jakeio> Just had to re-add it.
[16:36] <Ian_> Explaining to others is often the best way to find a problem. glad that you managed to solve it. More experience in the bag of knowledge.
[16:38] <jakeio> Thanks for bearing with my wall of 12 messages!
[16:38] <jakeio> On the note of explaining errors to others, I've got another issue!
[16:38] <jakeio> This one is simpler.
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[16:40] <jakeio> How can I determine what frequency my radio is running at without checking the contents of the LoRa register. As my radio is supposedly running at separate frequencies for transmit and receive, but on SDR Sharp I cannot even find the transmit signal.
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[16:44] <Ian_> Simpler, you reckon? What frequency your radio is running on? Do you mean the LoRa tx or rx frequency?
[16:45] <jakeio> My radio is running at 869.850 when transmitting and the other one is running on 869.525 when transmitting, I can always find the 850 signal but never the 525 signal. Even though I'm using the same method to change frequency which I know works.
[16:45] <jakeio> And the radios are receiving things and chatting away happily.
[16:46] <jakeio> Both radios successfully receive the other.
[16:46] <jakeio> I just can't find the 525 signal on SDRSharp
[16:47] <Ian_> I guess the fact that they are chattering away convincingly does make it simpler in that you know there isn't a problem other than not being able to find it.
[16:48] <Ian_> Far from me to be up to speed here at all, but could it be that you are looking on the wrong side of the 850 signal and so moving away from seeing it rather than nearer to it?
[16:48] <jakeio> Sadly not, I'm entering the frequency manually.
[16:50] <jakeio> Oh, it works now...
[16:50] <jakeio> Haha, the old turn it off and on again.
[16:50] <jakeio> :)
[16:51] <jakeio> Oh no, I can't find the other one now!
[16:51] <jakeio> Nooooo!
[16:51] <Ian_> I never did understand that bit of technology fully, but it does seem to work. The mysteries of LoRa.
[16:53] <Ian_> I have to make something to eat about now so I'll leave you twiddling your registers jakeio.You aren't sharing a variable between the two LoRa radios somewhere unexpected are you?
[16:54] <jakeio> Erm, not that I know! I'm going to go and write some code that polls all my registers and dumps it all to me and see if that helps.
[16:54] <jakeio> Oh.
[16:54] <jakeio> Oh dear.
[16:54] <jakeio> I've worked out the issue.
[16:54] <jakeio> And now I feel really silly.
[16:55] <jakeio> Turns out to actually adjust the frequency in SDR Sharp I need to STOP/RESUME.
[16:55] <jakeio> After I've set the new frequency value.
[16:55] <jakeio> Right.
[16:55] <jakeio> Well, good to know.
[16:55] <jakeio> I'll go back to Gqrx
[16:56] <Ian_> I'm sure that in a few moments I'm going to be wiser - I am. I guess that you set it up and then the stop/resume commits the frequency change, in a two step process.
[16:57] <Ian_> :) No, it's probably a question or issue for prog if he is about
[16:58] <scherm> Question to anyone out there about a GPS lock issue for a habduino, tried having it outside, no obstructions on a sunny day -no GPS lock
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[17:12] <PE2BZ> scherm what GPS ? what antenna ? what hardware exactly ?
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[17:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NN5RR-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NN5RR-11
[17:26] <scherm> Hardware: Arduino Uno, HABduino V4.1 (includes Ublox MAX M8Q GPS,HX1 RadioModule for APRS), Active GPS Patch antenna with built in LNA. Supplied with either a 0.5 or 3 meter of RG174 termina..
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[17:27] <PE2BZ> Is there by any chance a jumper to enable / disable power for the active GPS antenna ?
[17:27] <scherm> no jumper
[17:29] <PE2BZ> connected to the right connector ? GPS I mean, and no Reverse polarity (wifi) sma connector ?
[17:29] <PE2BZ> afk for 20 mins sorry
[17:31] <scherm> no prob, appreciate the help. I doubt there is a reverse polarity issue (can't prove it though), Ordered the HABduino kit from Uputronics, pretty sure the GPS antenna is made for this specific board
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[18:01] <PE2BZ> I´m back
[18:05] <PE2BZ> scherm the gps antenna is indeed SMA male so that should not be the problem. You have it connected to the GPS antenna terminal and not to the TX antenna connector ?
[18:06] <scherm> Yes, definitely connected to GPS antenna and not the 2M RF connector
[18:08] <PE2BZ> Can you measure DC voltage ?
[18:12] <scherm> Yes, I brought a multimeter with me
[18:15] <PE2BZ> With the active GPS antenna you should measure something like 3.3 to 5 Volt DC on the center pin of the SMA connector to ground of the PCB. Can you check that ?
[18:15] <scherm> 3.15 volts
[18:18] <PE2BZ> That´s enough.
[18:20] <PE2BZ> How long did you wait for the GPS lock ?
[18:21] <scherm> I uploaded the correct sketch (HABduino_V4) on the arduino, I did get 4 message errors: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*' [-Wwrite-strings]
[18:22] <scherm> Sorry, I had it outside for 5 minutes. Inside by the window for 20 min
[18:23] <PE2BZ> ¨window¨ is HR++ double or simple single ?
[18:24] <scherm> simple single
[18:26] <PE2BZ> Strange.... The pits board with the GPS (same ublox) with a QFH passive antenna locked in 2 minutes with the antenna under the roof
[18:27] <PE2BZ> Disconnet the GPS antenna and see if the antenna connector is OK ?
[18:28] <daveake> Programmed the Arduino with the correct board type selected ?
[18:29] <scherm> i disconnected the antenna examined it, looks perfect
[18:30] <scherm> I uploaded the program with the correct board type
[18:33] <daveake> GPS connected to the correct socket? Also, how are you powering it ?
[18:35] <scherm> Currently powered via USB connection, have also tried with no USB connection and AA connection to HABduino shield
[18:37] <scherm> GPS connected to the correct socket (GPS and not 2M RF socket)
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[18:42] <scherm> I don't have the HX1 radiometrix attached to an antenna, I wouldn't think that would affect the GPS lock issue
[18:43] <scherm> of course I'm new to this
[18:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB9SKY-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB9SKY-11
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[18:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC9LHW-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC9LHW-11
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[18:52] <PE2BZ> You don´t have the HX1 transmitting I assume ?
[18:53] <scherm> correct I left the APRS commented out
[18:55] <PE2BZ> I am running out of ideas. Do you have a smartphone with GPS (tools) available ? So you can check the number of satellites on the same location where your GPS antenna is ?
[18:56] <bertrik> I'm joining a bit late in this conversation, but I remember that some small "spy" cameras are known to cause GPS interference
[18:57] <bertrik> you don't happen to have one of these?
[18:57] <scherm> no cameras with the setup
[18:58] <bertrik> I know some windows have a coating that blocks GPS, you can't really tell from just looking at the window
[18:58] <scherm> I took it outside in the middle of a softball field, weather-not a cloud in the sky, no trees no buildings for 5 minutes still no GPS lock
[18:58] <bertrik> we have this at work: putting a gps unit on the inside means no lock even after waiting a day, putting it on the other side of the glass gives you a lock in 30 seconds
[18:59] <PE2BZ> scherm from about where are you ? Not in Holland ?
[19:00] <scherm> US, Denver Colorado
[19:00] <PE2BZ> That´s a far drive to hand you my GPS active patch antenna ;-)
[19:01] <scherm> lol, thks for the offer though
[19:02] <PE2BZ> But not even a gps lock on a free fiels means something is wrong.
[19:02] <PE2BZ> You do have the pigtail cable for the output still laying around ?
[19:04] <PE2BZ> Can you remove the shield over 4.5 cm and wrap the shield together, make yourself a 1/4 wave antenna for 1575 MHz and connect that to the GPS antenna connector and walk outside ?
[19:04] Action: bertrik blames trump :)
[19:04] <scherm> no, since im in the US i had the HABduino shield come with the HX1 APRS (which doesn't come with pigtail cable)
[19:04] Action: PE2BZ blames Donald and Mickey
[19:06] <PE2BZ> And nothing else around with an sma male and a short piece of coax ?
[19:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-11 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-11
[19:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KJ4TDM-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-11
[19:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:12] <scherm_> my chat froze up. Don't have any extra extra coax with right now
[19:13] <PE2BZ> Is there still time to go outside ?
[19:13] <scherm_> sure
[19:14] <PE2BZ> Just a 6 cm solid wire in the center hole of the GPS antenna connector ?
[19:16] <scherm_> found a paper clip, made it 6 cm. I'll attach it in the center hole of the GPS connector and take it outside for 5 min. be back in 10 min
[19:16] <PE2BZ> That makes a 2.5 minute walk ;-)
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[19:29] <scherm_> ok, tried the 6 cm solid wire in center hole of GPS antenna outside for 5 minutes...no GPS lock
[19:31] <PE2BZ> To bad.
[19:32] <PE2BZ> And you check the GPS lock by ? the PPS led ?
[19:33] <scherm_> I'm getting to think this is software issue. I had 4 errors when uploading the habduino_v4 sketch and I think that is related to the GPS lock issue
[19:34] <scherm_> Everyone's trouble shooting helped me confirm that this probably not a hardware issue
[19:34] <PE2BZ> Take a deep breath. Start over. Copy error message to Google. Wait for the answer. Try the solution ;-)
[19:35] <PE2BZ> I am going to annoy my wife now, good luck !
[19:36] <scherm_> thanks for the help!
[19:37] <PE2BZ> NP !
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[20:17] <freq_> looking for some help with dl-fldigi.
[20:18] <freq_> im using an sdr, my sdr software is tuning in correctly, but dl-fldigi is not decoding.
[20:19] <freq_> all im getting is garbage characters.
[20:20] <freq_> can anyone point me in the right direction?
[20:29] <PE0SAT> freq_: What audio device are you using?
[20:30] <freq_> im using a funcube dongle pro + and a vb-audio virtual cable
[20:31] <PE0SAT> What SDR software?
[20:31] <freq_> sdr sharp
[20:32] <PE0SAT> You need to select VB audio out within SDR# and VB audio in as input device in dl-fldigi
[20:32] <PE0SAT> Make sure funcube audio recording level is 1 and not higher
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[20:35] <freq_> wherre do i change/view the funcube audio recording level?
[20:37] <PE0SAT> Below right corner, right click and select recording devices
[20:39] <freq_> the fucube was set to 100--changed it to 1.
[20:39] <PE0SAT> And the VB audio settings are ok in SDR# and dl-fldigi?
[20:40] <freq_> the virtual cable was maxed also-set the cable output and wave in volume to 1.
[20:40] <PE0SAT> no
[20:40] <PE0SAT> Only FCD level
[20:40] <PE0SAT> output FCD is IQ complex and therefor other level
[20:41] <freq_> k. ill change them back.
[20:42] <PE0SAT> start with 50% on the VB cable levels
[20:43] <PE0SAT> What do you want to decode
[20:44] <freq_> running a pits board in a raspberry pi-testing receiving telemery and images.
[20:44] <PE0SAT> Ok, give it a try with these settings
[20:45] <freq_> the waterfall on the sdr sw is more distinkt now..
[20:45] <freq_> not all yellow as before.
[20:46] <freq_> still getting garbage in the sl-fldigi.
[20:46] <PE0SAT> what mode?
[20:47] <freq_> custom rtty
[20:48] <PE0SAT> try Rv
[20:49] <freq_> dont have an option for rv
[20:50] <PE0SAT> dl-fldigi - below right Rv
[20:50] <PE0SAT> Rv = reverse
[20:50] <freq_> found it..sorry.
[20:51] <freq_> hecksum bad :-(
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[20:52] <PE0SAT> But readable?
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[20:53] <freq_> n, still garbage.
[20:54] <PE0SAT> rtty custom: look at shift, band rate, bandwidth etc.
[20:54] <PE0SAT> What are you transmitting
[20:55] <freq_> custom shift 450, 300 baud rate, 300 receiver bandwidth auto
[20:55] <freq_> 8 bits per char, none parity, 2 stop bits.
[20:56] <PE0SAT> and what radio mode in SDR#
[20:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> screenshot of sdr# and fldigi is allways handy, upload to imgur.com
[20:57] <PE0SAT> SA6BSS-Mike: Thanks good idea
[20:57] <freq_> usb radio mode. gimme a sec for the upload.
[21:04] <SA6BSS-Mike> greenshot is an exelent screengrabbing tool http://getgreenshot.org/downloads/
[21:04] <freq_> bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/rttyconfig.jpg
[21:05] <freq_> http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/sdrsetup.jpg
[21:05] <freq_> lmk if u need pics of anything more specific.
[21:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> we like to see all of the screen incl sdr# and main window of dl-fldigi
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[21:06] <SA6BSS-Mike> sdr# with it rx ing your pits
[21:08] <freq_> http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/sdrfullscreen.jpg
[21:08] <freq_> http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/fldigifulllscreen.jpg
[21:08] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> You need both peaks tuned into the bandwidth, you only have one
[21:09] <PE0SAT> disable filter audio in SDR#
[21:09] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Tune SDR# a little lower
[21:09] <PE0SAT> disable snap to grid SDR#
[21:10] <PE0SAT> enable correct IQ SDR#
[21:10] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> You may also need to make the bandwidth a little wider
[21:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> put it on 3500
[21:10] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> try 3000Hz rather than 2400
[21:11] <SA6BSS-Mike> we would also like a screenie of fldigi
[21:11] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Turn off the Sql squelch lower right in dl-fldigi
[21:12] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> You also need USB mode in dl-fldigi then turn off Rv
[21:12] <PE0SAT> start with the option I gave you and tune to the right freq
[21:13] <freq_> where do i change usb mode in fldigi?
[21:13] <SA6BSS-Mike> thats donw with RV buttton
[21:13] <PE0SAT> arrow right from RTTY
[21:14] <PE0SAT> you should have to lines in the dl-fldigi spectrum, check this by tuning sdr#
[21:15] <freq_> this is what ive got now ..
[21:15] <freq_> http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/fldigi2.jpg'
[21:16] <freq_> sorry //.. http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/fldigi2.jpg
[21:16] <SA6BSS-Mike> looks good, any decode??
[21:16] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> you need the two peaks to appear in dl-fldigi centred around 1500Hz
[21:16] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> roughly
[21:16] <daveake> we need the dlfldigi screen now not the sdr one
[21:16] <PE0SAT> Show us dl-fldigi
[21:17] <daveake> and you'll need to change that custom shift to match the signal
[21:17] <daveake> prob 900Hz and certainly not 450
[21:17] <freq_> n .. http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/fldigi3.jpg
[21:17] <daveake> 600Hz shift please
[21:18] <daveake> then align the cursors
[21:18] <PE0SAT> We are getting there :D
[21:18] <SA6BSS-Mike> reduce audio voulume on sdr# its a bit strong
[21:19] <SA6BSS-Mike> the red diamond lower right crner should be green
[21:19] <SA6BSS-Mike> in fldigi
[21:21] <freq_> change custom shift in fldigi?
[21:21] <daveake> yes
[21:22] <daveake> The 2 cursor lines have to align with the 2 signal bands, otherwise it won't decode properly
[21:22] <SA6BSS-Mike> right click on RTTY in lower left in fldigi takes you direct to rtty settings
[21:23] <freq_> custom shift is 600
[21:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/fldigi2.jpg
[21:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> sorry...
[21:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> rv button again if u still dont have a decode
[21:24] <freq_> hit r button..no change..
[21:24] <freq_> going to reduce audio vol oon sdr.
[21:24] <SA6BSS-Mike> screenie of fldig again
[21:25] <freq_> cable output/wave in vol both 25 on sdr now.
[21:25] <PE0SAT> are the lines and received signals in dl-fldigi over each other
[21:26] <freq_> bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/fldigi4.jpg
[21:27] <PE0SAT> first tune so the lines fall over each other
[21:27] <freq_> should the lines fall over the 2 red waterrfalls?
[21:27] <daveake> You MUST align the red cursor lines with the signal
[21:27] <daveake> It's in the pits manual
[21:28] <daveake> click halfway between the 2 signal bands
[21:28] <PE0SAT> this can be done by chaing the SDR# freq, small steps and look at dl-fldigi
[21:28] <PE0SAT> s/chaing/changing/
[21:28] <freq_> assuming my red is the yellow in the pits manual.
[21:28] <PE0SAT> pits manual ????
[21:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://imgur.com/a/4By7O purple should alaignt with purple, u get it
[21:29] <daveake> someone asked you to turn the volume down earlier
[21:29] <daveake> red - loud
[21:29] <daveake> though it should still decode
[21:29] <freq_> understood.
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[21:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> new screnshot of dl-fldig pls
[21:31] <freq_> http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/fldigi5.jpg
[21:32] <SA6BSS-Mike> rv off
[21:32] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> You still have RTTY selected next the Freq you need USB selected
[21:32] <freq_> rv off same results.
[21:32] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok
[21:33] <PE0SAT> change the shift
[21:33] <PE0SAT> it is to small
[21:34] <freq_> shift is now700--pretty much right over the 2 waterfalls.
[21:34] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> and still over level on audio see red diamond lower right that will go GREEN when right level
[21:34] <freq_> what should i adjust to make ti go green?
[21:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> volume in sdr#
[21:35] <freq_> bring audio level down?
[21:35] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Reduce the audio level still further
[21:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes
[21:35] <freq_> sdr audio down to 10.
[21:35] <freq_> still red..bringing down further.
[21:36] <freq_> audio levels down to 1 on sdr--still red diamond.
[21:37] <PE0SAT> what level are you changing
[21:37] <PE0SAT> screen shot
[21:37] <freq_> recording/sdr properties/levels
[21:38] <PE0SAT> ????
[21:38] <PE0SAT> Top left SDR# beside the speaker sign
[21:38] <freq_> http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/audio1.jpg
[21:39] <SA6BSS-Mike> hehe, in sdr# not audio properties
[21:39] <PE0SAT> set them on 50% and change the SDR# level
[21:39] <freq_> k. now it's yellow..
[21:39] <freq_> k. sorry im such a newbie with this guys..
[21:40] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> No problem, there are a lot of controls
[21:40] <SA6BSS-Mike> its ok, as we say , the harder you try the luckier you get
[21:40] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> and when you not sure its very easy to get them wrong
[21:40] <freq_> audio back up to 50%. sdr level down to 29%. fldigi diamond is now green.
[21:40] <PE0SAT> :D
[21:40] <freq_> 29 decibels.
[21:41] <freq_> is there something maybe i should reset in fldigi?
[21:41] <freq_> to see telem?
[21:42] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> No nothing will reset all controls
[21:42] <PE0SAT> now focus on tuning
[21:42] <freq_> y. aterfalls look diff now.
[21:43] <freq_> http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/fldigi6.jpg
[21:44] <PE0SAT> SDR# freq is to low
[21:44] <PE0SAT> sorry to high my mistake
[21:45] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Still not USB as mode in dl-fldigi next to the frequency
[21:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> dont know if it does anything but u should chabnge from rtty to usb ibn fldigi , what he said
[21:47] <freq_> where do i change to usb mode?
[21:47] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Click the drop down menu next to RTTY
[21:47] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> in dl-fldigi
[21:47] <PE0SAT> spectrum should look similar to this http://hab.uggy.org/data/images/capture-dl-fldigi_-_uggy-playback.png
[21:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://imgur.com/a/NtpPc
[21:49] <freq_> sa6bss-tx.
[21:49] <freq_> found it.
[21:49] <freq_> changed to usb mode.
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[21:52] <freq_> had to retune - still getting garbage chars.
[21:52] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Lets see both windows again
[21:53] <freq_> http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/fldigi7.jpg
[21:54] <freq_> http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/sdr1.jpg
[21:54] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> OK thats not too bad if the two peaks are the signal itself so sdr#
[21:55] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> OK, that ought to be close to decoding but obviosuly not yet
[21:56] <freq_> i must be missing something simple.
[21:56] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> your certain its 300 Baud * bits, No prity and 1 stop =8N1
[21:57] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> */8
[21:57] <freq_> 2 stop bits
[21:57] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> OK 2 Stop isn't a problem
[21:57] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> and that matches the seetings in dl-fldigi ?
[21:57] <PE0SAT> The spectrum looks strange, is there another program active on your computer sending audio to dl-fldigi
[21:58] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> agree
[21:58] <freq_> those were the settings in dlfldigi
[21:58] <freq_> if i go into sound, the only device that seems to bee sending a level is the sdr.
[21:58] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah hang on your not on the fright Freq in SDR# tyouur signal is a lot lower
[21:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> mind you it looks ratgher over cooked with all those lines as well wonder if your overlaonding
[21:59] <PE0SAT> What are the FUNcube dongle settings in SDR#
[21:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> what aerials are you using, normally on the bench you don't need aerials
[21:59] <daveake> The rtty decoder in fldigi ignores the stop-bit setting anyway
[22:00] <freq_> usb 3000 bandwidth
[22:00] <freq_> correct iq
[22:01] <freq_> use agc is checked.
[22:01] <daveake> I'd turn the lna gain right down on the funcube. ISTR getting strange signals when it was overloaded.
[22:01] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> If you turn off your transmitter do you loose all those peaks in SDR# ?
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[22:03] <freq_> turn off transmitter and it looks like this ..
[22:03] <freq_> http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/sdr2.jpg
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[22:04] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Right thats overlaoding from the strength of the signal, what aerials and how far are they seperated ?
[22:04] <freq_> they are very close.
[22:04] <freq_> both on my desk.
[22:04] <freq_> i will seperate.
[22:04] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> is it possible to remove the transmitter aerial all together when on the bench ?
[22:05] <PE0SAT> remove the aerial from the fcd, and put some 50ohm dummy on them
[22:05] <PE0SAT> TX and RX
[22:05] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> when its right you will just have a central twin peak
[22:05] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> showing in SDR#
[22:07] <freq_> removed antenna from dongle..now looks like this ..
[22:07] <freq_> http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/sdr3.jpg
[22:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Yea that better
[22:07] <daveake> much
[22:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> now in d-fldigi
[22:08] <PE0SAT> Here another example: http://janvgils.home.xs4all.nl/download/Hidden/high-balloon.png
[22:11] <freq_> mine looks like this .. http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/fldigi8.jpg
[22:11] <PE0SAT> please the audio device settings from dl-fldigi
[22:12] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> The audio peaks should be much clearer
[22:12] <PE0SAT> Maybe picking up some microphone signals and not vb audio
[22:13] <freq_> fldigi devices?
[22:13] <PE0SAT> yes
[22:13] <freq_> port audio
[22:13] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> if you talk / whistle do you see a pattern in dl-fldigi ?
[22:14] <freq_> tried clapping loud..no change..
[22:14] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> the audio level looks very low, but there is audio signals there
[22:14] <freq_> http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/config1.jpg
[22:14] <PE0SAT> dl-fldigi: configuration -> Audio -> Devices -> Port audio -> Capture -> CABLE A Ouput VB Audio
[22:15] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> the green Diamnd and the green level meter are what you expect
[22:17] <freq_> i think microsoft mapper may be sending signal also.
[22:17] <freq_> or, maybe it's supposed to?
[22:17] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Shouldn't be unless selected ny mistake
[22:17] <freq_> i disabled the microphone and stereo mix.
[22:18] <PE0SAT> That is what meant some time ago, other signals being send to dl-fldigi
[22:18] <freq_> unsure how to disable,doesnt show in the sound devices window.
[22:19] <PE0SAT> You also renamed the VB cable names, sure that input and output aren't changed - should be possible but you never know
[22:19] <PE0SAT> s/should/shouldn't/
[22:21] <freq_> dont think input output are changed-looks like same setup as b4.
[22:23] <freq_> turned the level up on the funcube--getting yellow waterfalls now.
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[22:24] <PE0SAT> spectrum in dl-fldigi should be smooth between +/- 0 to 3000 Hz
[22:26] <freq_> http://bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/fldigi9.jpg
[22:27] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> They just don't look correct normally you can see transition lines between the two peaks
[22:27] <PE0SAT> It is Windows - Reboot solves a lot of unexplained problems :D
[22:28] <daveake> It's very odd there's LF audio there, yet none selected in SDR#
[22:28] <freq_> u think i should reboot the pc?
[22:28] <PE0SAT> With MS Windows you never know
[22:28] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Not convinced on reboot think there is other audio getting in
[22:28] <daveake> ditto
[22:28] <freq_> makes sense.
[22:29] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> can you show in SDR# where the audio output is going ?
[22:29] <PE0SAT> One thing that could be the case the signal is in a loop
[22:29] <PE0SAT> VB in and VB out looping via the mapper
[22:31] <PE0SAT> If that is the case reboot won't help
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[22:40] <freq_> so basically-prob the reason im having difficulty is because of too much background noise? more than just the signal is being piped thru fldigi?
[22:41] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> That's what it looks like, when you clcik the Audio panel in SDR# where is the output set to ?
[22:41] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> in dl-fldigi in configure soundcard what is selected ?
[22:41] <freq_> the sdr is set to 16.
[22:41] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> No its will be a device name
[22:41] <freq_> sdr is selected.
[22:42] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> click the Grey panel in SDR# to expand it, then there is an outpur device selected ?
[22:42] <freq_> if i select any other device (other than sound mapper) waterfalls go dead.
[22:42] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> what are the other choices ?
[22:42] <freq_> so seems sound mapper and sdr are routing sound.
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[22:43] <freq_> funcube dongle and directsound devices.
[22:43] <daveake> sound mapper is your problem
[22:44] <daveake> I thought you said you were using a virtual audio cable?
[22:46] <freq_> i am.
[22:46] <daveake> So you don't need sound mapper
[22:46] <daveake> SDR --> virtual audio cable --> dl-fldigi
[22:47] <PE0SAT> Make sure VB out and in aren't connected via Windows audio settings
[22:51] Nick change: PD3T_ -> PD3T
[22:52] <freq_> k. gonna try uninstalling then reinstalling the virtual cable.
[22:53] <PE0SAT> http://janvgils.home.xs4all.nl/download/Hidden/ms-playback.PNG
[22:53] <PE0SAT> http://janvgils.home.xs4all.nl/download/Hidden/ms-recording.PNG
[22:54] <PE0SAT> http://janvgils.home.xs4all.nl/download/Hidden/ms-recording-vb-properties.PNG
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[23:09] <freq_> got something..not sure how.
[23:10] <PE0SAT> Can you share you spectrum - SDR# and dl-fldigi
[23:11] <freq_> bbtsoft.com/sdrstuff/fldigi10.jpg
[23:12] <PE0SAT> still looking strange
[23:12] <daveake> That's not right
[23:12] <PE0SAT> daveake: agree
[23:12] <freq_> been fooling around enabling/disabling items in sound panel.
[23:12] <PE0SAT> did you see my examples
[23:12] <freq_> y.
[23:13] <freq_> been using them as a basis.
[23:13] <PE0SAT> I wonder how this sounds, I don't think it sounds like rtty
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[23:18] <freq_> if i change the capture device to funcube dongle,
[23:18] <PE0SAT> no
[23:18] <freq_> seems to be capturing in the green area..tho still garbage chars.
[23:18] <freq_> eg: $$Gaia3,373,23:18:37,42.29205,-71.24561,00027,0,0,12,34.4,0.0,0.000*B476
[23:19] <PE0SAT> there is no tones coming out of the FCD only complex IQ
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[23:20] <PE0SAT> That is send to SDR# and is able to decode it back to RF
[23:20] <freq_> k.
[23:20] <PE0SAT> that is the reason why the level from FCD should be 1 and nothing else
[23:21] <PD3T> https://www.aprsdirect.com/center/51.49583,7.11367/zoom/12
[23:25] <freq_> when image packets are decoded, are they stored somewhere or does this need to be done manually?
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[23:26] <PE0SAT> freq_: good luck, I call it a day
[23:27] <freq_> thanks for all your help. im way farther along than i would be on my own!
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