highaltitude.log.20170109

[00:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RIA-20 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RIA-20
[00:16] <Ian_> I have reduced my intake and redressed some of the winter weight, summer weight non-event from last winter. A 30 minute walk doesn't burn much in the way of calories, but does work the heart (big hill) and pumps the claret around the pipework. If only it was! :)
[00:18] <Ian_> Maybe we need a quick_question22 wind-up bot that answers "Yes" to each of his many questions "?" once a ration is exceeded.
[00:18] <fsphil> Yes
[00:18] <Ian_> Well volunteered that man :)
[00:19] <fsphil> Yes
[00:19] <Ian_> :)
[00:20] <Ian_> My that was quick!
[00:20] <fsphil> No
[00:20] <fsphil> oh, it's broke
[00:21] <daveake> redo from start
[00:22] <daveake> Or have a bot that draws responses on SNUS
[00:22] <daveake> Like Sherlock earlier
[00:23] <mfa298> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRlqmTKyQx0
[00:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ria-20a_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ria-20a_chase
[00:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 038765138664_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=8765138664_chase
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[06:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 034905 54 st red deer_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=4905%2054%20st%20red%20deer_chase
[07:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[07:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03+974 77012356_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=%2B974%2077012356_chase
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[07:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
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[08:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> new sdr-console preview-5 out http://sdr-radio.com/v3_preview_downloads
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[10:11] <AndyEsser> morning
[10:13] <craag> mornin
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[10:15] <AndyEsser> all go ok with the habhub move?
[10:15] <craag> looks like it
[10:22] <Vaizki> you gotta move it move it
[10:25] <AndyEsser> :P
[10:49] <fsphil> you gotta... move it
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[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Python_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Python_chase
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[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PYSKY2 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PYSKY2
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[11:46] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[11:56] Nick change: luppe_ -> Luppe
[12:04] <AndyEsser> I want to be back in Bangor working on rocket stuff :(
[12:04] <AndyEsser> not writing poxy sodding Golang...
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[12:16] <pb0ahx> !flights
[12:16] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03UBSEDS21 434.610 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(2e88), 03SP3OSJ->437.7MHz/RTTY/100bd/7n2 10(cff8)
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[13:49] <AndyEsser> adamgreig: around?
[13:57] <AndyEsser> in fact, suspect many people might be able to answer this
[13:57] <AndyEsser> good book for DSP introduction?
[13:58] <nick_> I read through a decent chunk of a website that I think is a book (poorly) rendered in HTML
[13:58] <nick_> http://www.dspguide.com/
[13:59] <nick_> Not exactly a page turner, but it seemed quite good.
[13:59] <miek> i like Practical Signal Processing by Mark Owen. another one that gets a lot of recommendations is Understanding Digital Signal Processing by Richard Lyons, but i've not read it personally
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[14:04] <AndyEsser> nick_ / miek ta both
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[14:25] <AndyEsser> fsphil: y'know when I was playing around with RTTY modem stuff?
[14:26] <AndyEsser> and we were trying to mix in the inverted carrier freq... and then write it to a file and whatnot
[14:26] <AndyEsser> in that code... I ignore any samples that are 0.0
[14:26] <AndyEsser> this seems like a mistake...
[14:26] <fsphil> x * 0.0 is always 0.0 :)
[14:27] <fsphil> though there's probably no need to test for that unless you expect a lot of 0.0's
[14:27] <AndyEsser> yes, but if I don't write 0.0 samples into the array, the timing will be off, no?
[14:27] <fsphil> ah, indeed
[14:27] <fsphil> can't ignore them
[14:27] <AndyEsser> I suspect I had some reasoning at the time...
[14:28] <fsphil> premature optimisation maybe
[14:28] <AndyEsser> but as I don't have a PC I can run this code on at all atm... I dunno :P
[14:28] <AndyEsser> yea... think so
[14:30] <fsphil> you need a little linux pc / laptop
[14:30] <fsphil> join the dark side
[14:31] <fsphil> I mean, the light side
[14:32] <AndyEsser> I have a linux PC at work
[14:32] <AndyEsser> and a linux VM on my surface
[14:32] <AndyEsser> but I can't get the audio loopback working on VirtualBox for the surface :(
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[14:40] <AndyEsser> fsphil: sod it - installed audacity on my work PC... this will destroy my productivity...
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[15:02] <AndyEsser> would anybody with dl-fldigi installed mind testing a wav file with audio in to see if it decodes for me please?
[15:08] <michal_f> I can
[15:08] <michal_f> just send it to me
[15:09] <AndyEsser> two secs
[15:09] <AndyEsser> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0orLG3-k9SNZHZmQ2hqWE1ZcXM/view?usp=sharing
[15:09] <AndyEsser> should be 50 baud, ASCII-8
[15:09] <AndyEsser> shift 1000 Hz
[15:10] <michal_f> ok. give me a sec...
[15:11] <AndyEsser> can't remember if fldigi will go up to 1000Hz shift...
[15:12] <fsphil> the dl- version can
[15:12] <fsphil> unsure about the original
[15:12] <michal_f> $$TEST*8CCA
[15:12] <AndyEsser> woo :)
[15:12] <michal_f> green
[15:12] <AndyEsser> that looks like it works then
[15:13] <AndyEsser> ok, my siggen does behave and output an appropriate WAV file
[15:13] <michal_f> what does work ? :)
[15:13] <AndyEsser> thanks michal_f
[15:13] <michal_f> pleasure
[15:13] <AndyEsser> so at least I know all my issues are the modem, and not test signal generation
[15:16] <AndyEsser> fsphil: I remembe why I excluded samples of 0.0
[15:27] <fsphil> aye?
[15:31] <AndyEsser> because it takes audio from the audio in, rather than reading a file
[15:31] <AndyEsser> so it was trying to process audio before I'd tabbed back to the siggen and started playing the audio
[15:31] <AndyEsser> and then it needed a way to know that stream had finished
[15:31] <AndyEsser> it was a dirty hack
[15:32] <AndyEsser> fsphil: remind me what the signal should look like after mixing in the LO that is -carrier?
[15:33] <fsphil> for fsk it'll be a wave changing polarity. -X Hz and +X Hz
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[15:35] <fsphil> plotting the IQ onto a 2D chart would show a point rotating around the middle, changing direction
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[15:40] <AndyEsser> and the direction change is the change in phase, which is what we're looking for to discern 1's and 0's
[15:42] <AndyEsser> then I run it through some filters, and voila?
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[15:43] <fsphil> if you take the difference in angle between each sample you'd get your positive and negative values
[15:45] <fsphil> filters can be used to clean it up a bit in real samples, but probably don't need it for testing
[15:47] <AndyEsser> yea, I'll leave them off for testing
[15:47] <AndyEsser> the siggen signal is pretty clean
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[16:22] <daveake> rtl_fm to wav file
[16:22] <daveake> er, !google that :)
[16:23] <AndyEsser> daveake: :)
[16:23] <daveake> could have been worse
[16:23] <daveake> "where can I buy surface pro" for example :p
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[16:25] <AndyEsser> nothing wrong with my surface pro
[16:25] Action: daveake copies that for future reference
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[16:26] <AndyEsser> ha
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[16:35] <daveake> So AndyEsser if you could have your RTTY decoder running including auto-finding the frequencies and AFC-ing after, by Friday, that would be great TVM :)
[16:44] <AndyEsser> daveake: not happy with fldigi?
[16:44] <AndyEsser> also, not even considered AFC or picking up details from flight docs yet :P
[16:44] <daveake> It's a bit cumbersome for users
[16:45] <daveake> Matt's Android decoder is much nicer. Hand it a signal and it gets on with it.
[16:45] <AndyEsser> yea, one of the reasons I want to roll my own :)
[16:45] <AndyEsser> but Friday will be pushing it - sorry :P
[16:45] <daveake> :)
[16:45] <daveake> minimodem works except the auto option doesn't. At all.
[16:45] <AndyEsser> maybe Friday, in about 40-50 weeks :P
[16:46] <daveake> ha tooo late
[16:46] <michal_f> maybe we could convince Matt to make a c/c++ CLI version ?
[16:46] <AndyEsser> I have to sit in my office all morning tomorrow waiting for BT to show up, so will be working on this then
[16:46] <michal_f> to integrate with smth ike csdr for example
[16:46] <daveake> CLI version would be lovely
[16:46] <AndyEsser> daveake: this will be CLI to start
[16:46] <AndyEsser> there will be an optional UI down the line
[16:46] <AndyEsser> but it irks me that I can't just SSH into a Pi and run a modem
[16:47] <michal_f> I like that kind of thinking. GUI as layer over
[16:47] <daveake> what now?
[16:47] <daveake> rtl_fm | sox | minimodem
[16:47] <AndyEsser> sorry, let me append
[16:47] <AndyEsser> *without having to pipe a load of things, and tools I'm not yet familiar with
[16:47] <AndyEsser> would rather something like
[16:47] <AndyEsser> rtty --flight PISKY001
[16:47] <daveake> Piping is the way of Linux
[16:47] <AndyEsser> boom, done
[16:48] <AndyEsser> daveake: sure - but I shouldn't _have_ to have a PhD to figure it out
[16:48] <AndyEsser> see also: Vim
[16:48] <daveake> meh piping isn't so bad
[16:48] <AndyEsser> the concept of piping is fine
[16:49] <AndyEsser> but each individual binary seems to need four million* parameters passed into it
[16:49] <AndyEsser> *may be an exaggeration
[16:49] <michal_f> the commands themselves are hard sometimes. I always felt that MAN if for people who already know, just forgot in that second...
[16:49] <michal_f> if/is^
[16:49] <daveake> Certainly true that a typical thing | thingy | other_thing line can look like alphabetti spaghetti
[16:50] <AndyEsser> besides, this rtty modem is more for me to learn about stuff, and then maybe try and add some functionality on top of it - and for me to personally replace fldigi
[16:50] <AndyEsser> which I don't like
[16:50] <AndyEsser> but it's tried and tested and works
[16:50] <AndyEsser> not expecting everyone to throw it away :)
[16:50] <Vaizki> I like piping stuff between generic tools instead of rolling specific tools for each occasion
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[16:51] <michal_f> has anybody tried that: https://github.com/bistromath/gr-rtty ?
[16:51] <michal_f> it's a rtty for gnuradio
[16:52] <daveake> Here's an RTL SDR rtty decoder line for Linux. Don't ask how much work went it that :)
[16:52] <daveake> rtl_fm -M usb -f 434253000 -s 48k | sox -t raw -r 48k -e s -b 16 -c 1 -V1 - -t wav - | minimodem --rx --mark 1750 --space 920 50 -b 4000 --stopbits 1 -7 -f -
[16:53] <daveake> And it works for 2 minutes till the SDR drifts off
[16:53] <Vaizki> eww :)
[16:53] <daveake> and --auto doesn't do anything, at all
[16:53] <michal_f> nice daveake.. I never had success with minimodem
[16:54] <daveake> And that's the weak part
[16:54] <michal_f> i'll try with airspy
[16:54] <daveake> I got the mark/space frequencies by sending the audio to a wav file and opening up in Audacity
[16:54] <michal_f> but... real signal from balloon drifts by itself. so I guess it has limited usage in real life ?
[16:55] <daveake> yes, useless
[16:55] <AndyEsser> make less drifty balloons :P
[16:55] <daveake> minimodem has --auto, but that has yet to do anything other than claim it's found a signal
[16:56] <michal_f> Matt's java decoder is opensourced ?
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[16:59] <AndyEsser> looks like the audio libs I'm using for the modem are both cross-platform, so I might try working on it in Windows (where I'm more familiar with debugging tools) tomorrow
[16:59] <AndyEsser> see if I can finally make some progress
[17:00] <fsphil> seems to be a lack of cross-platform sdr libs
[17:00] <Vaizki> csdr could help
[17:00] <adamgreig> thought osmo and soapy both work quite well cross platform
[17:01] <adamgreig> and the underlying libairspy/librtlsdr/libbladerf/libwhatever are all cross platform
[17:01] <Vaizki> also lots of nice pipeable tools ;)
[17:01] <adamgreig> not convinced by piping as a good solution here, no way to do feedback
[17:01] <AndyEsser> I suspect if I ever get to the point of take data direct from the SDR (which is eventual plan) I will likely just support RTLSDR and Airspy to start :)
[17:01] <adamgreig> having command line tools is neat, but christ, the incantations people come up with
[17:02] <adamgreig> AndyEsser: just use one of the good libs like soapysdr that abstract over choice of SDR
[17:02] <AndyEsser> CLI Fu
[17:02] <adamgreig> then you support airspy+rtl+everything else
[17:02] <adamgreig> and it's in general easier for you, too, because they have quite nice interfaces
[17:02] <fsphil> ah soapysdr looks good
[17:02] <fsphil> osmo's website is ... difficult
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[17:02] <adamgreig> if you haven't used it already, CubicSDR (built on soapy) is really great
[17:03] <adamgreig> much nicer than gqrx
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[17:03] <adamgreig> https://agg.io/u/m3rsdr.png
[17:03] <fsphil> looks a bit like hdsdr
[17:11] <AndyEsser> adamgreig: sorry popped AFK
[17:12] <AndyEsser> will take a look at soapy when the time comes
[17:12] <AndyEsser> let me get RTTY decoding with a fixed test signal first :P
[17:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PYSKY after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PYSKY
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[17:24] <Laurenceb> hmm this is something I've never unserstood
[17:24] <Laurenceb> how do you stream airspy SSB decode into dl-fldigi on linux?
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[17:25] <adamgreig> gqrx or cubicsdr to decode to audio, pulseaudio to route output from that into fldigi
[17:26] <Laurenceb> ok
[17:26] <Laurenceb> so gqrx creates a pulseaudio device?
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[17:28] <adamgreig> no
[17:28] <adamgreig> but they all output their audio to pulse
[17:28] <adamgreig> which can configure which sink any program outputs to, and which source anything records from
[17:29] <adamgreig> normally/in a hurry I just have gqrx play to my speakers and have fldigi record from "monitor of stereo out", ie its record source is just my system audio out
[17:29] <adamgreig> that doesn't work ifyou wanna shut up the fsk and listen to music at the same time
[17:29] <adamgreig> in which case you can make a new sink for gqrx to output to, and have fldigi record from that
[17:30] <adamgreig> pactl load-module module-null-sink sink_name=gqrx sink_properties=device.description="gqrx"
[17:30] <adamgreig> pavucontrol
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[17:30] <adamgreig> playback -> fldigi -> select gqrx as the sink
[17:30] <adamgreig> uh, gqrx
[17:30] <adamgreig> recording -> fldigi -> gqrx as source
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[17:49] <Laurenceb> ok thanks
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[19:51] <luteijn> /op -YES *
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[20:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PACA1-L - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PACA1-L
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[21:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PACA1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PACA1
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[22:20] <dbrooke> Laurenceb: with the right version of dl-fldigi it will directly accept a UDP audio stream from gqrx
[22:21] <dbrooke> I find that more reliable than involving the linux audio susbsystem(s) but I did have to build the correct version of dl-fldigi
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[22:29] <adamgreig> advantage of ^ is that you won't have issues with sample rates which can otherwise be deeply annoying lol
[22:30] <fsphil> very
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[22:47] <kp3ft> ria-20 info?
[22:47] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> !payload ria-20
[22:47] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[22:48] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> !flight ria-20
[22:48] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[22:48] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Nope may be ARS
[22:48] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> APRS*
[22:49] <kp3ft> seems like it went up 22 hrs ago
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[23:20] <Laurenceb_> wow newsnight
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[23:24] <fsphil> don't think that's ever been uttered before
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