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[02:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ria-20a_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ria-20a_chase
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[03:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03kj9126_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=kj9126_chase
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[05:07] <iain_> Q: What sort of range should be expected from RTTY or LORA on the ground? The reason I ask is that I seem to only get a reception to the end of the street (400m ish). So i'm a bit concerned.
[05:16] <SpeedEvil> that can be reasonable
[05:16] <SpeedEvil> line of sight is so much better
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[06:28] <iain_> thanks SpeedEvil for the advise
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[06:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UBSEDS21 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS21
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[07:28] <SV3ISZ_Vasilis> Please remind me the UHF freq. of UBSEDS21
[07:33] <x-f> Contestia 16/1000 on 434.610 MHz USB
[07:33] <x-f> preceded by 10 seconds of pips and RSID
[07:34] <x-f> once every 30 or 120 seconds (when low on power)
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[07:37] <SV3ISZ_Vasilis> Thanks!! Lets hope will move south
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[09:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[10:01] <pb0ahx> gm all
[10:01] <pb0ahx> !flights
[10:01] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03UBSEDS21 434.610 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(2e88)
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[10:02] <fsphil> !ping ubseds18
[10:02] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: Last contact with 03UBSEDS18 was 039 days ago
[10:02] <fsphil> aww
[10:02] <pb0ahx> i mist last night used21 now over polen
[10:19] <SA6BSS-Mike> it was not transmitting as it passed down from the north following the terminaton line
[10:37] <michal_f> i can hear it. and decode ...
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[10:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ILHAB_L1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ILHAB_L1
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[11:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Python_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Python_chase
[11:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DO6SOM-8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO6SOM-8
[11:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ILHAB-1d after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ILHAB-1d
[11:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PYSKY2 after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PYSKY2
[11:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DB0BKN - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DB0BKN
[11:51] <richardeoin> SA6BSS-Mike: damn :( hopefully one day we'll get a balloon that comes your way
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[12:49] <SP3OSJ> #habhub
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[13:18] <SP3OSJ> There is someone who will approve the flight: 72df5a836c6b65ff627835660768765a
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[13:35] <SP3OSJ> Please enter: 72df5a836c6b65ff627835660768765a
[13:36] <michal_f> SP3OSJ, ask on #habhub channel
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[13:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03INFINITY - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=INFINITY
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[14:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JA0GWB-8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JA0GWB-8
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[14:44] <SP3OSJ> habhub
[14:45] <SP3OSJ> #habhub
[14:45] <x-f> /join #habhub
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[14:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> richardeoin: somedays hopefully :)
[14:51] <PE2BZ> A North South Elipse :-)
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[15:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PYSKY after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PYSKY
[15:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP3OSJ - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP3OSJ
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[16:02] <Upu> he types it x-f then double clicks it
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[16:42] <fsphil> he's thinking with portals
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[16:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Tank_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Tank_chase
[16:53] <dbrooke> is Dave preparing for another firing range landing?
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[17:00] <daveake> hah
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[17:01] <daveake> Nah just testing a Python LoRa receiver/chase car thing, and needed a new name
[17:01] <daveake> They were playing tanks on not-top-gear earlier
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[17:03] <SV3ISZ_Vasilis> Whats the freq. of SP3OSJ ??
[17:05] <Laurenceb> https://i.sli.mg/5wGL6u.png
[17:05] <Laurenceb> airspy with timestamping: good enough ^
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[17:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0UPU-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0UPU-9
[17:21] <gurlavie_> good evening, our HAB school project is now designating 4 cameras, HABduino, and PITs, all in a single payload. Any recommendation on the most effective way to power all of this ? Somthing we can build or buy ?
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[17:22] <daveake> Independent power for each tracker; you don't want a camera killing everything
[17:23] <daveake> Depending on the cameras you should be able to keep those all running from a regular powerbank, with some USB splitters
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[17:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ria-20a_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ria-20a_chase
[17:47] <x-f> thanks, Upu, should have guessed myself after these years ;)
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[18:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> SV3ISZ_Vasilis: 437.700 100 7n2 accornig to the flight doc
[18:01] <SV3ISZ_Vasilis> Thanks Mike!
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[18:19] <prog> Laurenceb: did you timestamp them in the firmware?
[18:22] <Laurenceb> no, just in airspy_rx
[18:22] <prog> but why?
[18:22] <Laurenceb> v basic, was testing something I was intending to use for ultra simple base stations
[18:23] <Laurenceb> just a patch applied to airspy_rx.c
[18:23] <prog> what are you using for the TX?
[18:23] <Laurenceb> so anyone can help with differental doppler tracking with no additional hardware, just ntpd and a host patch
[18:24] <Laurenceb> 1 sec
[18:24] <Laurenceb> TX -> https://i.sli.mg/tWxk5q.jpg
[18:25] <prog> oh nice
[18:25] <Laurenceb> 170mg mass
[18:25] <Laurenceb> sort of reverse GPS style system using differential doppler between two or three ground stations
[18:26] <Laurenceb> it needs at least 2 stations with GPSDO clk
[18:26] <prog> sync'ing the receivers will be a real challenge
[18:26] <Laurenceb> but it looks like I can get good enough data for "aiding" stations with ntpd and timestamping
[18:27] <Laurenceb> yeah it _has_ to have GPSDO at >=2 base stations
[18:27] <prog> what's the final resolution of the position?
[18:27] <Laurenceb> <10cm rms error at about 200hz bandwidth
[18:28] <prog> you need to track the sync and re-lock again if there are any data losses
[18:28] <Laurenceb> theres a pll running at each station, if it loses lock then yeah thats bad news
[18:29] <russss> btw I know someone who collects reference clocks, and I also have one
[18:29] <russss> haven't quite got mine working
[18:30] <russss> after it exploded
[18:34] Action: PE2BZ is wondering how mac gyver gets an reference clock to explode
[18:36] <russss> faulty power supply, worked fine for 3 weeks then blew up so badly it caused a 63A breaker to trip
[18:38] Action: PE2BZ feels sorry
[18:38] <PE2BZ> How are the ears doing ? Or was there no Big Bang ?
[18:39] <PE2BZ> Y
[18:39] <fsphil> "released the magic smoke" probabaly don't quite cover that
[18:39] <fsphil> more a magic tsunami
[18:40] <PE2BZ> Y was the answer to the PI´s question Do you want to continue ;-)
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[18:55] <russss> PE2BZ: it happened when nobody was around, but when I got there a day later I could still smell the magic smoke
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[18:56] <russss> amazingly only one cap was exploded on the clock, that got replaced and now it works again.
[18:57] <fsphil> how much current does the clock use?
[18:59] <russss> 2A max at 18-25V. It has an OCXO.
[18:59] <PE2BZ> russss Good to hear.
[19:00] <russss> haven't got it hooked up to anything yet though
[19:00] <PE2BZ> Sometimes smoke stays in a cabinet for a long time. I have caught smoke 2 days in a remote controlled terrain lightning cabinet.
[19:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03zs6lmg_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=zs6lmg_chase
[19:01] <russss> requires some interface work http://syncchannel.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/standalone-operation-of-lucent-ks-24361.html?m=1
[19:01] <PE2BZ> On monday they asked me to check why the terrain lights did not work in the weekend. A lot of smoke came out. On a remote location (200 m distance) someone exchanged the controle power and the cable to the actual lights so over 200 m cable the fed my 24 Volt transformer
[19:02] <gurlavie_> daveake" tx (had a powerdown, how ironic).
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[20:28] <TT7> Hi everyone
[20:29] <TT7> I am watching the GPS talk by edmoore from one of the conferences. Is there the ipython notebook for download anywhere?
[20:30] <TT7> I have been following the code but there is a part that is not shown in the videos
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[20:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HIRFW-5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-5
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[20:57] <Upu> not sure TT7 you can ask him when he's back in a week or two ?
[20:58] <TT7> ok, thx Upu
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[21:09] <fsphil> there was some of that code somewhere but I can't find it now
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[21:52] <TT7> I found a link to the gps data file in the logs but no luck with the code
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[22:26] <fsphil> TT7: some snippets: http://pastebin.com/CfFk4t69 http://pastebin.com/CLJGaHmL http://pastebin.com/cnZDcB7B
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[22:43] <TT7> cheers fsphil. It seems like that is all that was missing
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