highaltitude.log.20170103

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[00:45] Action: Elwell needs to hack up a gpsd listener to squirt out NMEA over serial to his nixie clock
[00:46] <Elwell> there's a gps in the garage which has PPS etc for ntpd, but my clock in the sitting room drifts. fairly badly.
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[00:50] <Darkside> Elwell: IRIG :P
[00:50] <Darkside> that's the standard fro that kind of stuff :P
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[00:51] <Elwell> orly? ta
[00:51] <Darkside> jk btw
[00:52] <Elwell> ah. yes, that'd be great if clock supported it :-)
[00:52] <Darkside> its whats used for accurate timing in some areas
[00:52] <Darkside> probably overkill
[00:52] <adamgreig> and yet it can't even code the century part of the year
[00:52] <adamgreig> poor
[00:53] <Elwell> http://www.pvelectronics.co.uk/index.php -- sadly the DCF77 receiver I used to use in .ch doesn't seem to pick up much of a signal here in .au :-)
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[01:01] <Darkside> Elwell: no it wont
[01:02] <Darkside> Elwell: i've seen projects to generate those signals
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[09:31] <pb0ahx> GM all
[09:31] <fsphil> mornigs
[09:31] <fsphil> n
[09:32] <fsphil> my n key didn't survive 2016
[09:32] <Vaizki> moarnigs all
[09:32] <Vaizki> use your any-key
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[09:39] <SA6BSS-Mike> wehere´s the any key
[09:40] <StuartL2> If you don't have one you can achieve the same result by pressing Control, Alt and Delete together.
[09:40] Nick change: StuartL2 -> StuartL
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[11:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8ELK-2 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-2
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[12:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[13:02] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DC2EH-6 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-6
[13:02] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 038 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[13:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0359025235_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=59025235_chase
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[13:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0357525729_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=57525729_chase
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[13:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PYSKY after 0314 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PYSKY
[13:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PYSKY2 after 0313 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PYSKY2
[13:38] <StuartL> Were a bunch of HABs taking a break over Christmas?
[13:41] <gonzo_> sounds like the opening line for a joke!
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[13:52] <pb0ahx> !flights
[13:52] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03UBSEDS21 434.610 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(2e88)
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[14:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03python_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=python_chase
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[14:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
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[14:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[14:47] <Reb-SM0ULC> russss: i've also checked a bit at survey-grade stuff.
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[14:55] <Reb-SM0ULC> russss: ther ublox-6 seems most resonable i guess?
[14:56] <russss> Reb-SM0ULC: this one is cheaper, more easily available, and has the capability to output carrier-phase data for RTK post-processing http://www.nvs-gnss.com/products/receivers/item/2-nv08c-csm.html
[14:58] <russss> so for my use I can then post-process with fixed station data to improve accuracy
[15:01] <Vaizki> define cheap?
[15:01] <russss> £30ish on Farnell I think
[15:02] <Vaizki> hmmh not bad.. been wondering about making my own gps compass :)
[15:02] <Vaizki> just for fun
[15:03] <Reb-SM0ULC> russss: ah, haven't seen that one
[15:04] <russss> it also has a mode where you can set up one NV08c as a fixed receiver, then it can transmit its offsets to a roving module over a wireless link. That gives you <20cm accuracy I believe.
[15:04] <Reb-SM0ULC> russss: nice, RKT built in :)
[15:05] <russss> yeah it has lots of options.
[15:06] <russss> there's some more info on the openstreetmap wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RTKLIB-compatible_GPS_devices
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[15:11] <Reb-SM0ULC> russss: right, checked that now and then but was some time ago
[15:11] <Vaizki> I'm actually a bit perplexed why there aren't cheap satellite compasses already.. ok so they're no longer 2k+ but still quite steep for a casual boater
[15:12] <Reb-SM0ULC> Vaizki: what do you mean by compass? heading?
[15:13] <Vaizki> yes.. based usually on 3 antennas and calculating the phase difference between L1 signals that they receive
[15:14] <Vaizki> so when you have boat position + satellite positions (almanac) + phase difference.. you get a heading
[15:14] <Vaizki> commercial products are like this: http://www.simrad-yachting.com/en-GB/Products/Compasses/HS70-en-gb.aspx
[15:14] <Reb-SM0ULC> aah
[15:14] <Vaizki> that's about 10x too much in my opinion ;)
[15:15] <Reb-SM0ULC> mm
[15:15] <Vaizki> also http://www.cactusnav.com/newsdesk_info.php?newsPath=17&newsdesk_id=16
[15:15] <Reb-SM0ULC> Vaizki: boatstuff starts at expensive...
[15:16] <Vaizki> well you could also use that in a car to improve navigation
[15:16] <Vaizki> so when you are making turns etc the display updates in real time
[15:18] <Reb-SM0ULC> yepp
[15:19] <Reb-SM0ULC> when the use-case gets bigger there will be cheaper stuff..
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[15:26] <Vaizki> I wonder what kind of heading sensor tesla etc autonomous driving systems use
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[17:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BLACKOPS_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BLACKOPS_chase
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[19:28] <Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globophobia
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[19:33] <PE2BZ> Should we add Globophabia to the wikipedia ?
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[20:02] <michal_f> I don't like balloons poping... maybe I'm globophobiac ;]
[20:05] <PE2BZ> You can gently push them with a needle... They only hissssssssssssssssss
[20:07] <michal_f> too much risk !
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[20:07] <PE2BZ> Fill them with HE and send them up. Someone else will popp them for you ?
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[20:09] <michal_f> I did.
[20:09] <michal_f> I wonder if anybody tried filming HAB burst in high frame rate...
[20:09] <michal_f> raspi cameras have hi FPS modes I think
[20:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-3 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-3
[20:13] <SA6BSS-Mike> michal_f: https://www.google.se/search?q=hab+balloon+burst&espv=2&biw=1536&bih=731&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiSjr_X5KbRAhVRKywKHcD-D-MQ_AUIBigB
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[20:31] <michal_f> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuhxY-i29sE thats nice
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[21:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ILHAB_L1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ILHAB_L1
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[22:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ILHAB-PITS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ILHAB-PITS
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[22:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ILHAB-1d after 0315 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ILHAB-1d
[22:50] <Laurenceb_> anyone here any good with gnuplot?
[22:50] <Laurenceb_> something about my data is causing a single column to all be undefined :(
[22:50] <Laurenceb_> maddening
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[22:57] <Laurenceb_> oh found it, its caused by axis limits, stupid error description
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[23:49] <amell> Quite excited to discover that the Pizero Lora board is available for purchase. How long has it been out?!?
[23:51] <amell> daveake: is the pizero board stuff also at https://github.com/PiInTheSky/pits?
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[23:59] <daveake> same s/w works with pits+, pitszero and the original pits board
[23:59] <amell> Ta
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