highaltitude.log.20161231

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[00:08] <kc2pit> mfa298: That was me on the CHIP forum.
[00:10] <mfa298> kc2pit: I half wondered when you made the comment earlier
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[00:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[01:15] <Laurenceb_> !whereis K6RPT-12
[01:15] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: I haven't got a clue
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[02:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
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[02:23] <rballoons> anyone have the github repository link for predict.habhub so i can try and figure out the api?
[02:23] <Darkside> https://github.com/cuspaceflight/tawhiri
[02:23] <Darkside> i think its this one
[02:25] <rballoons> thank you
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[09:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DO2EIM-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO2EIM-1
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[09:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EPSOM - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EPSOM
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[10:04] <PA4FB> Goodmorning to you all
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[10:17] <ryde> hi guys
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[10:22] <g0hdi> Good morning PA4FB
[10:28] <pb0ahx> GM all
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[10:30] <F4GUK> Hello world ! ;-)
[10:31] <g0hdi> Anyone have a strange vibrating carrier on 434.4? Can't be Epsom yet surely!...
[10:31] <F4GUK> Have you the frequency of the BDBC7 Balloon, please ?
[10:32] <g0hdi> Advertised at 434.4 apparently
[10:32] <fsphil> vibrating?
[10:32] <Ron_g8fjg> 434.4 clear here 434.6 full of usual qrm for me
[10:33] <g0hdi> Sort of motorboating. Not too bad now though. Must be something local to me I guess
[10:33] <Ron_g8fjg> I say 434.6 because that's where yesterdays flight ended up
[10:35] <F4GUK> Ok for 434.6, thanks. ... Listening ...
[10:35] <Ron_g8fjg> I have the same "motorboating" intermittent on .6. must be a common ? mode up here
[10:35] <g0hdi> I'm just going by spacenear.us/tracker map
[10:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DC2EH-6 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-6
[10:38] <Ron_g8fjg> afk
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[10:43] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> They also have the Start location wrong 50.32 rather than 51.32, so if your aerials are controlled they are pointing 180 deg out ;-)
[10:45] <g0hdi> My vertical can live with that hi. 'Morning Geoff...
[10:46] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Morning! Seemed odd that the beams were looking mid channel!
[10:49] <g0hdi> Not a good place to be. Nor was Brighton on the 27th. Jolly expensive eating and parking and traffic horendous..Day out for xyl though. One off hi..
[10:57] <g0hdi> Guess the Epsom launch crew are not on here as probably would have heard something by now?..
[10:58] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> I guess also its maybe EPSOM6 which is flying ?
[10:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> In which case it says 434.175MHz
[10:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> !dial epsom
[10:59] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Latest dials for 03Epsom2nd 10(5068): 03434.6 MHz
[10:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Mumm confused
[11:00] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> !payload 5068
[11:00] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Payload 03Epsom2nd 10(5068) 03$$EPSOM - 03434.175 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/500Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[11:00] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> !flight 5068
[11:00] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Flight 10(5068): 03Epsom 6 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 12:00 from 03Surrey, UK 10(51.32,-0.25)
[11:01] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> ah that all makes more sense then
[11:03] <g0hdi> So it's 6 then at 434.175
[11:03] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> I'm going to work on that one
[11:04] <g0hdi> The truth is out there!
[11:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> or in this case listen both channels ;-)
[11:08] <g0hdi> Got you!
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[11:38] <pb0ahx> !flights
[11:38] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03UBSEDS18 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(64a5), 0350.625 144.675 RTTY200 7n2 10(d6d7), 03Epsom 5 10(687d), 03Epsom 6 10(5068), 03UBSEDS21 434.610 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(2e88)
[11:38] <pb0ahx> !payload 5068
[11:38] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Payload 03Epsom2nd 10(5068) 03$$EPSOM - 03434.175 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/500Hz ASCII-8 none 2
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[11:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M10WX-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M10WX-11
[11:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[12:57] <pb0ahx> is there anyone who has any idea what time EPSOM going flying ??
[12:58] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> 12:00-16:00 ISH
[12:59] <pb0ahx> tnx Geoff-G8DHE but is there al activiti ??
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[12:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> only what you can see on the map it was received local to the site 2:36 ago
[13:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BDBC7 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BDBC7
[13:00] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Ah! the first one lives ...
[13:01] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Epsom-5 maybe ?
[13:03] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> In which case 434.4Mhz ?
[13:03] <pb0ahx> yes i am rady
[13:04] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> !flight epso5
[13:04] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[13:04] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> !flights
[13:04] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Current flights: 03UBSEDS18 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(64a5), 0350.625 144.675 RTTY200 7n2 10(d6d7), 03Epsom 5 10(687d), 03Epsom 6 10(5068), 03UBSEDS21 434.610 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(2e88)
[13:04] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> !flight 687d
[13:04] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Flight 10(687d): 03Epsom 5 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 10:00 from 03English Channel 10(50.32,-0.25)
[13:04] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> !payload 687d
[13:04] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Payload 03Epsom College Final 10(687d) 03$$BDBC7 - 03BDBCEPSOM - 03434.4 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/496Hz ASCII-8 none 2
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[13:28] <Ron_g8fjg> 434.175
[13:28] <pb0ahx> wat now going up is 175 ?
[13:29] <Ron_g8fjg> bdbc7
[13:29] <pb0ahx> ok
[13:29] <Ron_g8fjg> 50/430 ish
[13:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-11 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-11
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[14:00] <Ron_g8fjg> same as yesterday ...didnt like greenwich 0000.0000
[14:00] <G4YHE> Did not make it across the meridian.
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[14:02] <G4YHE> I had a stronger more stable signal today
[14:02] <Ron_g8fjg> might "wake up" when there is a few digits after the 000.000 like yesterday...yes much more stable
[14:03] <G4YHE> yes, fingers crossed
[14:04] <Ron_g8fjg> not so cold -30's yesterday
[14:05] <G4YHE> I thought I saw -50 at one point
[14:07] <Ron_g8fjg> is this a school flight? if so do they have to keep in contact with no breaks longer than 15mins...I think
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[14:10] <G4YHE> yes, they are probably part of that balloon competition whose name escapes me.
[14:12] <chez> what happend to BCBC7?
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[14:23] <pb0ahx> BDBC7 lost ?
[14:24] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Nah software problem crossing the meridian line at 0 deg.
[14:25] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Boscome Down
[14:25] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Balloon Challenge
[14:26] <pb0ahx> he coming back in rtty later ??
[14:26] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Depends just what the software problem is I guess...
[14:26] <Ron_g8fjg> should be near Maidstone now
[14:28] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> It might need (a non existent) reset to recover ....
[14:29] <Ron_g8fjg> came back on in about 20mins yesterday...depends how fast its going?
[14:30] <PE2BZ> And what happened with yesterdays flight after that ? I could track it till about 10 kc down and then it was gone
[14:32] <Ron_g8fjg> Ben ..got really cold and when to carrier , after a few trips up and down the band
[14:33] <Ron_g8fjg> ^^went
[14:35] <Ron_g8fjg> I'll leave the kit on and track the antenna ....afk
[14:40] <PE2BZ> tnx Ron
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[14:46] <PE2BZ> !flights
[14:46] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03UBSEDS18 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(64a5), 0350.625 144.675 RTTY200 7n2 10(d6d7), 03Epsom 5 10(687d), 03Epsom 6 10(5068), 03UBSEDS21 434.610 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(2e88)
[14:46] <PE2BZ> !dial 687d
[14:46] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03Epsom College Final 10(687d): 03434.174851 MHz, 434.175 MHz, 434.1743 MHz, 434.174831 MHz, 434.17506 MHz, 434.174852 MHz
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[14:47] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Just looking at the data from yesterdays flight, and it went rather chaotic around the 0 point but didn't fail as such
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[15:02] Action: PE2BZ is listening to the sound of silence
[15:03] <PE2BZ> Could it be that there is a single carrier at around 434.175 with a little frequency drift ?
[15:04] <pb0ahx> yep i hrd it also
[15:04] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> I can see quite a strong signal there, nut no modulation at all that I can see
[15:04] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[15:04] <pb0ahx> but that is not a ballon i think
[15:07] <Ron_g8fjg> It's on 434.175.900 +- wobble
[15:09] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> yup
[15:09] <PE2BZ> carrier or rtty ?
[15:09] <Ron_g8fjg> it hasn't gone very far ..bearing of 140 from me...
[15:09] <Ron_g8fjg> carrier
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[15:10] Action: PE2BZ remembers suddenly... If sdrsharp does not appear on screen after starting it 4 times ? turn on the 4th monitor attached to the computer...
[15:11] <Ron_g8fjg> I've only got 3 :(
[15:11] <PE2BZ> I have 6 outputs and only 4 screens attached ;-)
[15:12] <Ron_g8fjg> looks like you need more screens
[15:13] <PE2BZ> I have 2 spare :-) But when running teamviewer from my work I get lost on so many screens
[15:13] <PE2BZ> And I need some space for the radio´s and tools :-)
[15:14] <Ron_g8fjg> looks like you need more eyes :)
[15:14] <PE2BZ> That would be nice ! On the other hand, with 2 growing boys (12 and 15) they would not like that :-)
[15:14] <PE2BZ> afk for some time now...
[15:14] <PE2BZ> ttu later
[15:15] <Ron_g8fjg> me also..saturday curry calls
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[15:34] <xp> test
[15:34] <xp> crypto on/One time pad activated/Error corr. on/
[15:35] <xp> Stream msg.
[15:35] <xp> Sat. link ok/
[15:36] <xp> FSB data connected
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[15:37] <fsphil> raise shields, evasive maneuvers
[15:37] <daveake> Fire at will
[15:37] <daveake> Though I always heard that as "Fire at Will"
[15:38] <daveake> Half expected a rain of phaser fire landing on Ryker
[15:43] <PE2BZ> Do they happen to have a spare BDBC7 ?
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[15:46] <Ron_g8fjg> 434.373
[15:46] <PE2BZ> thanks
[15:49] <Ron_g8fjg> 6db up on the last one!
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[15:51] <gurlavie_> Hi, happy new year..soon...
[15:51] <gurlavie_> a LORA/PITS question...
[15:52] <gurlavie_> After a gateway shutdown and restart, I keep getting "Ch1: CRC Failure, RSSI xxx"
[15:53] <Ron_g8fjg> every hour or so ...or streams of them
[15:53] <PE2BZ> Hi Avie (If I am right) is the rx close to the tx ?
[15:55] <PE2BZ> I had that on my local SSDV setup, RX and TX on the same PITS board, but if I tune the RX manually 1 kHz down the crc failure disappears. You can change the frequency settings with the keyboard
[15:56] <gurlavie_> (Gur) I get a "Unknown packet type is XXX" just before the CRC failure...
[15:56] <gurlavie_> So, the PITS is TX only (?) the gateway is RX only no ?
[15:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NLDPT02 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NLDPT02
[15:57] <gurlavie_> -- as far as the default configuration...
[15:57] <PE2BZ> https://github.com/PiInTheSky/lora-gateway#interactive-features
[15:58] <PE2BZ> shows the keys to tune the gateway tracker
[15:58] <PE2BZ> gateway is RX indeed
[15:58] <PE2BZ> you can also try f (or shift f for ¨the seconde module¨)
[15:59] <PE2BZ> that toggles AFC
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[16:01] <ryde> hi
[16:01] <gurlavie_> great feature ! tx.
[16:01] <gurlavie_> testing it now.
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[16:02] <ryde> gurlavie are you from epsom
[16:02] <PE2BZ> All honours go to daveake ;-) I only copy and paste
[16:02] <daveake> dbrooke wrote that bit
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[16:02] <gurlavie_> what I do notice is that the frequency erro listed as -5.7Khzm which is a very high number , I didnt see such an error before.
[16:03] <PE2BZ> Let me answer that question :-) gurlavie is from Israel, so I would guess no :-)
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[16:03] <PE2BZ> All honours go to dbrooke ;-) I only copy and paste
[16:03] <PE2BZ> Better ?
[16:03] <daveake> :)
[16:03] <PE2BZ> I copy, edit and paste now ! Improved version ;-)
[16:03] <daveake> crc errors can be frequency offset too much between tx and rx, or can be something else transmitting near the rx frequency
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[16:16] <g0hdi> 'Scuse me but there are bursts of rtty on 434.374. Not decoding at moment though
[16:17] <Ron_g8fjg> bdbc7 again...coming up to meridian...
[16:17] <g0hdi> BDBC7 green
[16:18] <Ron_g8fjg> hold on to your hats
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[16:18] <gurlavie_> Now I can reconstruct it in a deterministic way: 1. start the gateway, RSSI=-78, Freq Error = -5.7Khz AFC, Current RSSi=-25 2) press SHIFT+S, retune by +10khz, 3)Freq error = -0.1khz, RSSI=-30, Current RSSI =-84, SSDV packets are going through
[16:19] <Ron_g8fjg> bingo
[16:20] <Ron_g8fjg> afk
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[16:24] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> !dial bdbc7
[16:24] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Latest dials for 03Epsom College Final 10(687d): 033.58 MHz, 434.372819 MHz, 434.373 MHz, 434.6 MHz
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[16:37] <PE2BZ> bdbc7 coming in at 434.372 50 / 425
[16:46] <Ron_g8fjg> Ben 434.374.600 :) :) on mark...well whatever the hf tone is
[16:51] <Ron_g8fjg> I've just got 10 mins in shack I won't take my coat off .....Happy new year all ... 73 G8FJG
[17:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8ELK-2 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-2
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[17:00] <fsphil> !whereis WB8ELK-2
[17:00] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: 03WB8ELK-2 is over 03North Pacific Ocean 10(27.8125,-119.125) at 0312479 meters
[17:01] <fsphil> nice
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[18:05] <Jiri> hi
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[18:05] <fsphil> drive by hi
[18:06] <PE2BZ> hi turned to lo
[18:13] <daveake> Same IP as "ryde" earlier
[18:15] <PE2BZ> Looks like ryde is curious about the BDBC7 competitor
[18:24] <dt_> hi, what's the freq. for bdbc7?
[18:27] <PE2BZ> !dial bdbc7
[18:27] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03Epsom College Final 10(687d): 03434.365929 MHz, 434.366474 MHz, 434.367 MHz, 434.3668 MHz, 434.366043 MHz, 434.366552 MHz, 434.366934 MHz, 434.3661 MHz, 434.366092 MHz, 3.58 MHz, 434.366212 MHz, 434.366729 MHz, 434.366852 MHz, 434.36632 MHz, 434.368 MHz, 434.3667 MHz
[18:31] <dt_> thx!
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[19:13] <PE2BZ> BDBC7 disappeared without goodbye....
[19:14] <PE2BZ> Must be a sign to turn off the radio for the night. Wish you all the best for the next year and enjoy the last day of this year !
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[19:21] <Geoff-G8DHE-m> Humm a carrier like the previous one in the bandwidth again .....
[19:23] <pa0rpa_> Any one here who can tell me the frequency of Epson5/BDBC7 ? It shoud be around 434.400 Mhz, but I don't hear a thing.....
[19:24] <Geoff-G8DHE-m> It stopped like previous on @ 19:09:21
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[19:24] <Will> Hi all! Will on :)
[19:25] <pa0rpa_> Thanks Geoff , next time better, but it is stillvisible on the tracker.
[19:26] <Geoff-G8DHE-m> Look at the panel on left, last TX at time above, just stopped possibly a carrier only running
[19:27] <pa0rpa_> Ah, indeed, I see .Thanks !
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[19:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-1 after 0314 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
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[19:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0314 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:56] <Will> Geoff, we have lost the altitude prize for ryde :( to Epsom, however their payload has died and is no longer transmitting- they have won the altitude with 23,930m and we (ryde) have won the distance with 535km and the duration of 7h 43m
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[20:03] <Geoff-G8DHE-m> Ah that sounds a good share out of the prizes then!
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[20:12] <craag> 24km with a 100g balloon is impressive :)
[20:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KG7SSH after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7SSH
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[21:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[22:38] <Darkside> craag: suggests >2m dia tho
[22:52] <mfa298> Hwoyee 100, with small payload and low ascent rate seems to be possible based on the calculator
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[22:52] <cm13g09> mfa298: ping(PM)
[23:05] <GyroW> Happy newyear!
[23:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HORUS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUS
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