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[00:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IK8SUT-11 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IK8SUT-11
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[06:08] <PE2BZ> !flights
[06:08] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03UBSEDS21 434.610 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(2e88), 03UBSEDS18 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(64a5)
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[06:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M0SBU-13 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0SBU-13
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[07:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ea8adh-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ea8adh-9_chase
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[08:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03XX after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=XX
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[09:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ER1TUM/AM after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ER1TUM%2FAM
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[09:37] <ER1OR> hello. Approve please flight of ER1TUM/AM for 12.12.16.
[09:38] <mfa298> ER1OR: best place to ask is #habhub and provide the flight doc id (long string of letters and numbers)
[09:39] <ER1OR> mfa298, thx))
[09:40] <cm13g09> morning mfa298
[09:44] <AndyEsse1> https://twitter.com/boylemansion/status/807990015422853125
[09:44] <AndyEsse1> :)
[10:28] <pb0ahx> !flights
[10:28] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03UBSEDS21 434.610 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(2e88), 03UBSEDS18 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(64a5)
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[10:30] <AndyEsse1> edmoore: was talking to gf about school and awards and things
[10:30] <AndyEsse1> and mentioned about "House Socks"
[10:30] <AndyEsse1> and then remembered the whole: The Not The Tech Theatre Awared
[10:30] <AndyEsse1> Award*
[10:30] <edmoore> the well-balanced spanner
[10:31] <AndyEsse1> I really need to see if I still have that
[10:31] <AndyEsse1> must be in a box somewhere, I hope
[10:31] <edmoore> i think i do
[10:31] <edmoore> at my parent's house
[10:31] <AndyEsse1> the weld between the spanner at the bolt broke on mine, and suspect I may have started using the spanner as... y'know... a spanner
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[10:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UBSEDS21 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS21
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[11:02] <Vaizki> UBSEDS21 over Parc naturel régional des Ballons des Vosges
[11:03] <Vaizki> how fitting
[11:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[11:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M10WX-11 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M10WX-11
[11:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03F1TKE-12 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TKE-12
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[12:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HILCOX - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HILCOX
[12:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UOLAether_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UOLAether_chase
[12:31] <x-f> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fih5Wpe6ac4 - Pegasus rocket launch from an aircraft (live), liftoff in ten minutes, actual launch from 49000 ft altitude in a hour i think
[12:31] <SIbot> In real units: 49000 ft = 14935 m
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[12:51] <dStruct> x-f: we should be deploying Pegasus on time
[12:52] <edmoore> dStruct: you're involved with the launch?
[12:52] <dStruct> x-f: also made the "interesting aircraft" on adsb exchange
[12:52] <NigeyS> edmoore :)
[12:52] <dStruct> edmoore: I work on the team, but I am not directly involved in the Florida launch this morning
[12:52] <edmoore> awesome
[12:52] <x-f> oh, cool!
[12:52] <edmoore> what part?
[12:53] <dStruct> I operate Stargazer II, if you watch the nasa live youtube link x-f provided I'm in there
[12:54] <dStruct> the chase F-18 just arrived on the right side, looks like they're showing video now
[12:54] <edmoore> so stargazer II is the launch aircraft?
[12:55] <dStruct> Stargazer is the L-1011 air launch aircraft, Stargazer II is the L-1011 flight simulator
[12:55] <edmoore> gotcha
[12:55] <edmoore> that's awesome
[12:55] <edmoore> what do pilots do after releasing pegasus?
[12:55] <edmoore> get the hell out of the way?
[12:56] <edmoore> what time (any timezone) is the launch due?
[12:56] <dStruct> edmoore: they initiate maneuvers to stabilize the plane after losing 52,000lbs and start a bank at the pilots discretion
[12:56] <SIbot> In real units: 52,000 lbs = 23586.8 kg
[12:57] <udat_> oh that looks neat
[12:57] <dStruct> edmoore: the launch window is 08:30-09:30 EST
[12:58] <edmoore> cool, thanks
[13:01] <dStruct> currently at 31,200ft and climbing
[13:01] <SIbot> In real units: 31,200 ft = 9510 m
[13:03] <edmoore> the sats look good
[13:06] <dStruct> edmoore: there's a little weather out there but the pilots are flying around it
[13:07] <edmoore> 'we are expecting a GARBLED at 1330 ZULU'
[13:07] <edmoore> what did he say?
[13:08] <dStruct> possible weather no-go condition
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[13:20] <pb0ahx> go HILCOX flying today ??
[13:20] <dStruct> they just told the F-18 to move up for a photo op
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[13:23] <pb0ahx> ???
[13:23] <dStruct> they just switched the Pegasus to internal power
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[13:29] <edmoore> i wish i had an glossary for all these acronyms
[13:30] <dStruct> edmoore: which ones?
[13:30] <edmoore> all the radio char
[13:30] <edmoore> LOCO i think we just had, tho might have misremembered
[13:30] <edmoore> LPO
[13:31] <dStruct> edmoore: LC is basically the ground, LPO is the L-1011 Pegasus launch coordinator on the aircraft
[13:31] <edmoore> be advised I am drinking tea at this time
[13:36] <dbrooke> was that a "unplug it and plug it back in again"?
[13:37] <AndyEsse1> :)
[13:38] <dStruct> dbrooke: they're going to circle around the pattern while they work on a hydraulic issue, during which they reconnect Pegasus to external power and recharge the CYGNSS onboard batteries
[13:39] <edmoore> 25 mins
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[13:41] <dbrooke> time to get a coffee ...
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[13:53] <Geoff-G8DHE> Do we have any word on this UOLAether/HILCOX flight at all ? Other than what is in the posting ?
[13:54] <daveake> Pass. No updates from the hilcox tracker for over an hour.
[13:54] <daveake> 5 mins left on their notam
[13:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh hadn't got that far! Didn't sound promising from the start
[13:56] <daveake> Nope
[13:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> Mumm very close to trees for a launch!
[14:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> NASA seem to have similar problems manually holding in a circuit breaker!
[14:01] <dStruct> looks like we're going to be a go for launch
[14:02] <daveake> woo
[14:02] <AndyEsse1> my new RTL SDR ended up at East Midlands then went to Leipzig, and then back to East Midlands in the same day....
[14:03] <edmoore> is that abort for good or just another loop?
[14:03] <dStruct> or not
[14:03] <dStruct> no that's a full abort, another pass would be outside the launch window
[14:04] <edmoore> oh well
[14:04] <edmoore> when's the next attempt?
[14:04] <dStruct> edmoore: that's a good question, I would imagine pretty quickly
[14:08] <edmoore> same time tomorrow
[14:08] <edmoore> according to the scrolling text
[14:08] <dStruct> edmoore: yeah I was just going to say, tomorrow 08:24
[14:09] <edmoore> it's a neat idea, pegasus
[14:09] <dStruct> edmoore: looks like it'll be another early morning for me, I'm PST
[14:09] <edmoore> i'm in the UK so this is quite civilised
[14:10] <dStruct> edmoore: it's an extremely safe vehicle/platform
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[14:12] <M0NRD_Work> RTTY signal at 434.651 sure it is HILCOX but weak and slammed with QRM
[14:12] <g8fjg> 434.651.500 dial
[14:12] <edmoore> dStruct: how long have you been involved with the program?
[14:13] <dStruct> edmoore: just over 2 years now
[14:14] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-11 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-11
[14:15] <M0NRD_Work> last time he flew this payload claimed it was on 434.621 but was 434.651, lost signal not long after launch, sure he was listening to an 'image'
[14:16] <daveake> Sounds very likely
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[14:17] <daveake> Their Rx kit still isn't working properly (loads of failed uploads in the logtail) so this could be tricky for them
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[14:20] <daveake> He has an interesting view on what values Habduino transmits
[14:20] <daveake> battery -9V
[14:20] <daveake> suspect that's temeperature, Chris
[14:20] <mattbrejza> 7bit, 50baud?
[14:21] <daveake> yes
[14:21] <g8fjg> 810 ish
[14:21] <mattbrejza> is it transmitting 9999 regularly..?
[14:21] <mattbrejza> oh dw
[14:21] <M0NRD_Work> ;-) signal pretty dire, for 50baud even with QRM or is that just me?
[14:22] <g8fjg> very low sig here
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[14:24] <g8fjg> 15 db better H pol
[14:24] <craag> lol
[14:24] <M0NRD_Work> oh well he can rely on his SPOT trackers
[14:24] <mattbrejza> seems quite fady
[14:25] <mfa298> bets on him having 4 driven elements and one groundplane element ?
[14:25] <g8fjg> very fady
[14:25] <mattbrejza> i think the volume on the radio is a bit high here (ideally)
[14:25] <mattbrejza> so close to a green though...
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[14:26] <M0NRD_Work> and my 70cm yagi is currently vertical.. was due to rotate it tonight for the UKAC, sods law ;-0
[14:27] <dStruct> gotta run, i'll be back later
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[14:43] <udat> got $$HILCOX the once but nothing else since
[14:43] <udat> and see it again as i saif that
[14:44] <fsphil> you never want to go full hillcox
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[14:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> Don't think I would suggest this for a cut-down device ;-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hvg2Wey92E
[14:46] <mattbrejza> no flight doc it seems, cant see how many packets have actually been uploaded
[14:47] <Laurenceb> wow UBSEDS21 is v high
[14:47] <Laurenceb> impressive work
[14:48] <fsphil> !whereis UBSEDS21
[14:48] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: 03UBSEDS21 was over 03Vosges, France 10(48.2566,6.5755) at 0315144 meters about 03a day ago
[14:48] <fsphil> nice
[14:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> he is using M0SBU-13
[14:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> !whereis m0sbu-13
[14:48] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: 03M0SBU-13 is over 03Sungurlare, Bulgaria 10(42.78488,26.97962) at 0314867 meters
[14:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh a gren
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[15:02] <ac6rb> From California
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[15:03] <tweetBot1> @G7IGB: Tewkesbury balloon launched today... https://t.co/OVhWphWTPv #amateurradio #hamradio #ukhas
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[15:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8ELK-2 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-2
[15:10] <Geoff-G8DHE> spinning well on its way down!
[15:12] <Andrew_M0NRD> hope parachute is on the right way up
[15:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> umm -25m/s @ 10Km
[15:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> its slowing -21m/s @8Km ;-)
[15:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> or not!
[15:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> Get your hardhats out now
[15:16] <Andrew_M0NRD> wasn't the flight something about controlling descent rate?
[15:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> -21m/s @ 6Km
[15:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> saving it to flare out at the last minute you mean ?
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[15:17] <StuartL> Could use a rocketry altimeter to deploy a second chute?
[15:17] <Andrew_M0NRD> from twitter "The flight is for Ryan from Leicester university for a project to control ascent/descent rates using a balloon valve"
[15:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> might need retro rockets at this speed!
[15:17] <StuartL> We deploy a drogue, streamer (or sometimes nothing) at apogee and then deploy a second chute on a BP charge around 800-1000'.
[15:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> -22m/s @ 3.kKm
[15:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> 3.7Km
[15:19] <mattbrejza> we wont know if it actually works though, since the chasecar odesnt appear to be uploading
[15:19] <Andrew_M0NRD> plenty of fields at least
[15:20] <g8fjg> $$HILCOX,839,15:1;:,52,084830,-1&560629,2136,8,-5,2476,00*ABB0
[15:21] <g8fjg> sack of spuds
[15:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> should be on the ground by now!
[15:23] <StuartL> I'm not seeing V/H velocities on habhub at the moment?
[15:23] <mattbrejza> s/on/in
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[15:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> quite!
[15:23] <Andrew_M0NRD> spot tracker survived at least ;-) http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0PxOEjGdEKjUgNMg453WJSOdQI2WiAGQT
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[15:24] <craag> StuartL: They're calculated browser-side, so the page needs to be open as telem comes in
[15:24] <StuartL> craag: Thanks.
[15:24] <StuartL> mattbrejza: I'm not seeing them in my monitor either.
[15:27] <Ian_> Meteoric!
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[15:28] <edmoore> StuartL: you could use a rocketry altimeter
[15:28] <edmoore> but given you've probably got a flight computer on there anyway you might aswell use that
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[15:35] <Andrew_M0NRD> wonder if they straightened the antenna before launching, bent horizontal on this picture https://twitter.com/chrishillcox/status/808329045297471488
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[15:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> landing point http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2016_Flights/HILCOX_20121212/index.php?ind=0
[15:39] <StuartL> Pretty!
[15:40] <mattbrejza> you can see the coax is taped to the bottom of the box, rather than being poked through
[15:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> corner reflector ?
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[16:04] <cm13g09> mfa298: pinh
[16:04] <cm13g09> ping
[16:06] <udat> what is the silver thing, radar reflector?
[16:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Looks like it ...
[16:07] <udat> yeah just googled and seem others similar
[16:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> corner reflectors, not actually needed just extra weight.
[16:08] <udat> that wouldn't be normal then? seems to be a US requirement
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[16:10] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Countries vary on requirements
[16:12] <Upu> 50p says there were hand warmers in there too
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[16:12] <udat> remember talking to a yachtie that insisted I should have a radar reflector on a stick on top of my kayak
[16:12] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Its COLD up there didn't you know?
[16:12] <udat> just smiled and said that's a good idea
[16:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BERKOHAB - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BERKOHAB
[16:12] <udat> :)
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[16:38] <fsphil> if you need a radar reflector on your kayak, you're doing it wrong
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[16:38] <fsphil> they have quite a limited altitude range
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[16:41] <udat> fsphil: yeah it's a daft idea, but wasn't going to tell him that
[16:43] <udat> very few things that would run you over in fog here would have radar anyway
[16:43] <dbrooke> fsphil: udat didn't say what altitude his kayak was at
[16:43] <udat> and if you're messing about in the ferry lanes in the fog then....
[16:44] <udat> dbrooke: maybe i could attack a reflector like those guys have on to a balloon and tie it on
[16:44] <udat> attach
[16:45] <udat> "chance course, that must be an oil rig at that height!"
[16:45] <udat> can't type today
[16:46] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[16:46] <fsphil> most radar reflectors people launch on balloons are too small to be detected
[16:49] <lz1dev> i thought radars can pick up birds
[16:49] <fsphil> I think it can but only if there are a lot of them
[16:50] <fsphil> http://imgur.com/gallery/O3bMo6L
[16:51] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Radar on most planes is for clear air turbulence rather than object identification!
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[18:11] <g8fjg_> just to let you know that the Leicester university balloon launched ok and got to 23km , and has now been retrieved
[18:11] <g8fjg_> Just got an email from them
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[18:45] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[18:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UBSEDS18 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS18
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[19:31] <Ian_> So, a successful project that ticked all the boxes for project goals . .
[19:32] <craag> up, down, and excavated up again?
[19:32] <Ian_> Planning, testing, communication, re-entry . . .
[19:33] <Ian_> Just as well it didn't bounce off a farmhouse roof
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[22:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
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[22:47] <jcoxon> does anyone get a weird X on the tracker around israel?
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[22:49] <richardeoin> jcoxon: yes, I think it's just a payload being tested
[22:50] <richardeoin> and I guess the tracker uses a different icon for payloads called 'X'
[22:52] <fsphil> weird
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[23:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[23:06] <richardeoin> I think ubseds18 is getting some mountain wave action https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=1_day&q=UBSEDS18&mt=terrain
[23:07] <richardeoin> GPS has plenty of sats, so I don't think it's an artifact
[23:07] <richardeoin> period has increased slightly now
[23:08] <jcoxon> maybe its something that someone put in and forgot about
[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M10WX-11 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M10WX-11
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[23:26] <cm13g09> Anyone got any spare DS18B20s kicking around that they could post one or two to me? Farnell have managed to run out at an inopportune moment - will happily post you some back when mine arrive.
[23:27] <cm13g09> Bonus points for not requiring postage and being in Southampton
[23:27] <cm13g09> craag, mattbrejza, mfa298 perhaps?
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[23:35] <craag> none sorry sm
[23:35] <craag> err cm13g09
[23:36] <cm13g09> craag: no worries - thought it worth an ask
[23:36] <cm13g09> fwiw - they were in stock when I built the cart
[23:36] <cm13g09> by the time I checked out, they weren't
[23:36] <craag> I have some *in* accessible sensors if you're *really* stuck.
[23:37] <cm13g09> craag: how do you mean?
[23:37] <craag> like, currently soldered to some pieces of wire - wouldn't 100% vouch for their lifetime compared to a new-out-of-packet though of course.
[23:38] <cm13g09> but they're DS18B20s?
[23:38] <craag> yes
[23:38] <cm13g09> I just need something to test against tbh
[23:38] <craag> Ok, lemme double check
[23:39] Action: craag is back from the fridge with a ds18b20
[23:39] <cm13g09> lol
[23:39] <cm13g09> yes
[23:39] <cm13g09> wrong window
[23:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PYSKY - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PYSKY
[23:41] <craag> if you want it you can have it
[23:42] <cm13g09> craag: if it's spare for now
[23:42] <cm13g09> that'd be useful
[23:42] <cm13g09> as I say
[23:42] <craag> yep, although if my food starts going off in the fridge I'll be unhappy :P
[23:42] <daveake> jcoxon That's someone using the landing prediction in my PITS s/w
[23:42] <cm13g09> as soon as my ones turn up.....
[23:42] <craag> sure
[23:42] <craag> when do you want it
[23:42] <cm13g09> Thursday is fine
[23:43] <craag> k, I'll bring it along
[23:43] <daveake> SNUS has a special trick where a payload with ID "XX" shows as an "X marks the spot" icon
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