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[06:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RPF-1 after 0310 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RPF-1
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[08:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-18 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-18
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[08:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03F1TKE-11 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TKE-11
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[09:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[09:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BARC4 after 038 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC4
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[10:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-20 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-20
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[10:49] <hyde00001> !whereis BARC4
[10:49] <SpacenearUS> 03hyde00001: 03BARC4 is over 03Province of Namur, Belgium 10(50.51815,4.67706) at 0322763 meters
[10:50] <hyde00001> !dial BARC4
[10:50] <SpacenearUS> 03hyde00001: Latest dials for 03BARC4 10(74f3): 03434.44926 MHz
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[10:54] <SpacenearUS> 03skinoku: Here you go: 12https://ukhas.org.uk/spacenearus_irc_bot
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[10:59] <pb0ahx> BARC4 434.450 300/600
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[11:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[11:30] <pb0ahx> BARC4 Team mni tnx for flight
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[12:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ER1TUM/AM after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ER1TUM%2FAM
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[13:15] <tibs02> look behind ya then
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[14:57] <Laurenceb> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/about/media-center/press-item.html/p3884.html
[14:58] <russss> oh hello
[14:58] <Laurenceb> 10mA TX @10dBm
[14:58] <Laurenceb> impressive
[15:03] <fsphil> 2/4 (g)fsk and, ook and ask
[15:04] <fsphil> like a lower power rfm69
[15:04] <Laurenceb> matching network is nasty
[15:04] <Laurenceb> even more complex than silabs
[15:06] <fsphil> yikes
[15:07] <Laurenceb> ST will probably make a matching network ic like with their spirit1
[15:10] <russss> has some nice features
[15:11] <russss> built-in FEC and CSMA
[15:11] <Laurenceb> yeah
[15:11] <Laurenceb> looks like its based on spirit1
[15:11] <Laurenceb> but with better than silabs level rf performance
[15:11] <aadamson> while it certainly can do other than sigfox, why wouldn't you just use - http://www.semtech.com/images/datasheet/sx1272.pdf
[15:12] <aadamson> and do everything
[15:12] <aadamson> for a slightly higher current on TX.
[15:12] <Laurenceb> beats silabs be about 3dB
[15:12] <aadamson> plus sigfox is so restricted in it's packet length
[15:12] <Laurenceb> aadamson: lora is overhyped imo
[15:12] <Laurenceb> - what Ti said
[15:12] <fsphil> I wonder how good the fec is. convolution coding and interleaving, should be alright
[15:12] <Laurenceb> http://e2e.ti.com/support/wireless_connectivity/proprietary_sub_1_ghz_simpliciti/f/156/p/343273/1477077
[15:13] <fsphil> that's well worth a try
[15:13] <aadamson> yes I understand that, and I too agree, but isn't the packet size in sigfox like 10 or something bytes and restricted in the number per minute or hour
[15:13] <Laurenceb> yeah
[15:13] <aadamson> that's what I see as the negative with sigfox. And if you are going to go out to 2/4fsk without sigfox, then you just as well use lora
[15:13] <fsphil> sigfox isn't too interesting
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[15:14] <fsphil> a community network is better than relying on some commercial company
[15:14] <aadamson> at this point *any* network is better than ... :)
[15:15] <aadamson> for that matter if you really want to do *anything*, use an AX5243, then you even get AFSK (yep fm AFSK) encode/decode :)
[15:18] <fsphil> heh, it covers 27mhz. do afsk on cb radio :)
[15:19] <aadamson> yep... what I find as interesting about it, is that it does the HDLC natively it appears
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[15:22] <Laurenceb> holy shit AX5243 claims -137dBm
[15:22] <aadamson> There is a sister chip as well the AX5043, I can't figure out the difference
[15:22] <adamgreig> more interesting is that the ax does psk
[15:23] <aadamson> I *think* it has diversity antenna, etc
[15:23] <Laurenceb> yeah
[15:23] <Laurenceb> silabs utterly annihilated
[15:23] <aadamson> yes and it's not very complicated on the passive component side of the RF
[15:23] <Laurenceb> well - I get about -134dBm at 100bps
[15:23] <aadamson> OnSemi bought them they used to be AXSemi
[15:23] <Laurenceb> so maybe only a few dB
[15:24] <Laurenceb> still, all these numbers are silly for uplink
[15:24] <Laurenceb> theres plenty of margin
[15:27] <Laurenceb> looks like -140dBm sensitivity with 100bps PSK and FEC
[15:27] <Laurenceb> so better than claimed for lora
[16:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N7ERU-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N7ERU-12
[16:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OO7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OO7
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[16:12] <richardeoin> linearising a class E PA on the ax5243 would be a pain though
[16:12] <richardeoin> so going to stick to GMSK
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[16:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NLS1 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NLS1
[16:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DRK3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DRK3
[16:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WLN2 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WLN2
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[16:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N7ERU-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N7ERU-11
[16:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OO1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OO1
[16:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OO2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OO2
[16:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OO4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OO4
[16:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OO5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OO5
[16:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OO0 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OO0
[16:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OO6 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OO6
[16:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OO8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OO8
[16:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OO9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OO9
[16:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OO3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OO3
[16:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NM5SS-5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NM5SS-5
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[17:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03F1TKE-11 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TKE-11
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[17:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K2JJI-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K2JJI-11
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[18:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG5BFY-5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5BFY-5
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[19:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
[19:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WIDE2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WIDE2
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[21:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WIDE2-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WIDE2-1
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[21:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-20 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-20
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[22:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IK8SUT-11 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IK8SUT-11
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[23:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[23:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03F1TKE-12 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TKE-12
[23:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-11 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-11
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