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[00:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[00:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-5 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-5
[00:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-SSDV after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-SSDV
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[05:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-5 after 038 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-5
[05:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03GOSPACE after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GOSPACE
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[05:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 038 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
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[06:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2EAT-12 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2EAT-12
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[08:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ5TDW_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ5TDW_chase
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[08:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03S4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S4
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[08:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ2ODE_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ2ODE_chase
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[09:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP9KGP-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9KGP-11
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[09:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DC2EH-12 after 0316 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-12
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[11:04] <AndyEsser> note to self... don't go away to a cabin in Wales without the correct SSH keys :(
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[11:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[11:06] <fsphil> did you check under the flower pot?
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[11:08] <AndyEsser> ha!
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[11:14] <pb0ahx> !flights
[11:14] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03YAM-1 434.592 MHz RTTY 50/450 7N1 10(5ce8), 03SP5YAM - VAISALA RS41 437.666 MHz, RTTY 50/550 8N1 10(6579), 03UBSEDS18 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(64a5)
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[11:16] <AndyEsser> trying to find a way to get Jenkins to copy my public key into the appropriate file... not having much luck
[11:16] <AndyEsser> *sigh*
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[12:01] <garymortimer> So heres the issue, Adafruit M0 with LoRa module dtostrf' was not declared in this
[12:02] <garymortimer> Oh that was not so much of an inspirational quote...
[12:02] <garymortimer> If you walk in another mans shoes for a mile, you will be a mile away and have his shoes
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[12:45] <Babs> Hi everyone - I am having a little trouble with the following line in my program
[12:45] <Babs> target_latitude_detailed = float(51.8452 + ((hour*3600+minute*60+second)-t1)*((lat1-lat2)/(t1-t2)));
[12:45] <Babs> I've narrowed down the issue to the "hour*3600+minute*60+second)-t1" bit
[12:47] <Babs> where t1 is 74600L
[12:47] <Babs> Looking into it C tends to like to do "int" arithmetic. On an Arduino an int is a signed 16-bit type so ranges from -32,768 to 32,767. That range is obvs not big enough to hold the following intermediate value: ((hour*3600+minute*60+second)-75600)
[12:47] <Babs> so I guess it is overflowing
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[12:48] <Babs> I've dealt with the 74600 bit by finding out and adding an L to it, so i think the problem just lies with the hour*3600+minute*60+second part
[12:49] <Babs> I've tried (hour*3600+minute*60+second)L but that does not work. Does anyone know a way of getting around this issue?
[12:49] <Babs> Thanks
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[12:49] <AndyEsser> try changing the 3600 to 3600L and the 60 to 60L and it might type coerce it all to a long
[12:49] <Babs> Thanks AndyEsser - makes sense
[12:53] <edmoore> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fXu1SWJV5ak/hqdefault.jpg
[12:53] <edmoore> C
[12:53] Action: AndyEsser is so grateful he doesn't have kids
[12:54] <Ian_> Far be it for me to suggest it Babs, but bugger BODMAS (or later incarnations) and put brackets around everything to ensure that evaluation is in the order that YOU want. Without any doubts. Break it out and check where it's going awry.
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[12:54] <Ian_> KISS
[12:55] <Ian_> No offence intended of course.
[12:55] <Babs> No offence taken on the KIS bit ;-)
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[12:58] <Ian_> :)
[12:59] <Ian_> I do think that the order ove evaluation might be dubious to be honest.
[12:59] <Ian_> of
[13:00] <Babs> i hate to say I am definitely sure of anything, but in this case....
[13:01] <Babs> if the calculation is done early in the morning when hour*3600+minute*60 + second is <30000 it is all fine and works fine and dandy
[13:01] <Ian_> Actually I was originally reluctant because I have you pegged as several levels smarter than that.
[13:01] <Babs> once the calc goes over 32000 ish then problems happen
[13:01] <Ian_> :) optimistic arithmetic perhaps.
[13:02] <Babs> I'm generally ok with my maths. ish.
[13:02] <Babs> anyhow, I'm now testing the AndyEsserFix (TM), its only about 30 minutes to get a lock with my narrow view of the sky from where I am sitting
[13:04] <Babs> lets see how we go...
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[13:09] <Ian_> edmoore, don't tell us that was a family photo when your favourite niece and nephew recently visited you :)
[13:09] <Ian_> Babs how big it the largest hour that you are likely to present?
[13:11] <Babs> "Pablo Escobar kid's birthday party had not gone well, he was already down $1m and counting"
[13:11] <Babs> Ian_ probably hour=17
[13:11] <Babs> there are easy fudges in terms of scaling down the numbers etc
[13:11] <Ian_> Thanks
[13:11] <Babs> which i've done
[13:12] <Babs> but if I can do it without fudging it will be really useful as it eliminates the potential for transcription errors
[13:13] <Babs> the GPS has locked and it looks as if Andy Esser might have been spot on
[13:13] <Steffanx> Babs, why dont you simulate some values.. saves you 29.9 minutes ;)
[13:13] <Babs> I have a fake eclipse shadow coming in from mid-Ireland, through Oxford and over North London and down to Margate
[13:13] <AndyEsser> Babs: don't get carried away - me being right rarely happens :P
[13:14] <Ian_> Uh oh, fingers in ears near Bangor then!
[13:14] <AndyEsser> Ian_: hehe
[13:14] <AndyEsser> thankfully I'm in Dolgellau this weekend in a lovely converted barn
[13:14] <AndyEsser> with just theoretical engines
[13:14] <AndyEsser> :P
[13:15] <AndyEsser> https://twitter.com/LeadHyperion/status/789746135166554112
[13:16] <Babs> http://www.darrinward.com/lat-long/?id=2351756
[13:17] <Babs> its actually quite exciting watching a made up eclipse steaming across the UK
[13:17] <Babs> sort of
[13:31] <Babs> http://www.darrinward.com/lat-long/?id=2351767
[13:31] <AndyEsser> woo - your fake eclipse just passed over me :)
[13:31] <Babs> real time eclipse speed over 18 minutes. Its fairly nippy.
[13:32] <Babs> daveake - if you are doing this eclipse photo thing to its fairly narrow window to get the balloon in the correct position
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[13:33] <Vaizki> why did I read that URL as darwinawards...
[13:33] <AndyEsser> because many of the letters are the same and in the same place?
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[13:36] <Vaizki> ah!
[13:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5KMP-5 after 039 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-5
[13:43] <mfa298> wow, they have internet up there now. I stayed down the road from Dolgellau a few years back and getting any sort of mobile signal was interesting.
[13:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NLS1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NLS1
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[13:54] <pb0ahx> !payload NLS1
[13:54] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[13:55] <pb0ahx> !flifgts
[13:55] <pb0ahx> !flights
[13:55] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03YAM-1 434.592 MHz RTTY 50/450 7N1 10(5ce8), 03SP5YAM - VAISALA RS41 437.666 MHz, RTTY 50/550 8N1 10(6579), 03UBSEDS18 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(64a5)
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[13:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Oh keep that eclipse away from Sussex, I'm trying to paint the porch last thing I need is to be plunged into darkness
[13:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> ;-)
[14:01] <Babs> missed you on the north Geoff
[14:01] <Babs> http://www.darrinward.com/lat-long/?id=2351775
[14:01] <Babs> Thanks AndyEsser, you solved my problem
[14:01] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Tks painting is bad enough as it is ;-)
[14:02] <pb0ahx> NLS1 is a test ?? that not flying ??
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[14:21] <AndyEsser> mfa298: no mobile reception
[14:21] <AndyEsser> but 8mbit internet
[14:21] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> 8millie bit ?
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[14:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC9ZMJ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC9ZMJ-11
[15:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W1YA-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W1YA-11
[15:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N1YIP-11 after 0316 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1YIP-11
[15:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N2NXZ-12 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2NXZ-12
[15:40] <adamgreig> does anyone know of a source for parallel or series cameras that are very small?
[15:40] <adamgreig> anything I could hook into an stm32 would be ideal
[15:41] <adamgreig> but ideally not on a huge carrier pcb :P
[15:42] <edmoore> Snap
[15:43] <adamgreig> wonder if I can just use one of the 808 replacement modules
[15:43] <adamgreig> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lens-B-Module-for-808-16-HD-Car-Key-Camera-Pocket-Camcorder-720P-Mini-DV-/181010628579
[15:43] <edmoore> Ideally raw too (for me, no idea about adamgreig's requirements)
[15:43] <adamgreig> $9 and I bet someone has a datasheet
[15:43] <adamgreig> bet you could wrangle it into an stm32
[15:45] <adamgreig> hmm DL7AD uses a similar sort of thing
[15:46] <adamgreig> with an OV9655 I think
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[15:46] <edmoore> I've been using flex pcbs and zif connectors to remove ribbons recently and basically haven't looked back
[15:46] <adamgreig> as in, designing your own flex pcbs?
[15:46] <adamgreig> looks like you type OV9655 into ebay and you get a lot of promising results
[15:47] <edmoore> In one case yes, but using wurth interconnects wherever possible elsewhere
[15:47] <adamgreig> and sven's already got them working with an stm32 https://github.com/DL7AD/STM32F429-DCMI
[15:47] <edmoore> Wurth because i like them and they have a good paper catalogue and provide footprints for most popular cad packages and have decent stock on farnell but with 2-day sell anything direct
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[15:50] <DL7AD> adamgreig: yes i use the OV2640 and OV9655 on my trackers
[15:50] <DL7AD> and edmoore
[15:50] <edmoore> Are they raw?
[15:51] <edmoore> Or are they cooked
[15:51] <DL7AD> both can do raw
[15:51] <edmoore> Cool thanks
[15:51] <DL7AD> but i dont use the OV9655 anymore because the OV2640 can do JPEG too
[15:53] <DL7AD> edmoore: i removed the OV9655 driver on my new pecanpico8 repository https://github.com/DL7AD/pecanpico8/tree/master/software because the OV2640 can do both modes.
[15:58] <adamgreig> ah cool good to know
[15:58] <adamgreig> thanks DL7AD
[15:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0RMG-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0RMG-2
[15:59] <adamgreig> wow http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-4-OV2640-2-0-MP-Mega-Pixels-CMOS-Image-Sensor-SCCB-Interface-Camera-Module-/301828161828
[15:59] <adamgreig> £3 for camera and connector
[15:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC9ZUY-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC9ZUY-9_chase
[15:59] <DL7AD> adamgreig: dont expect too much from the image quality
[16:01] <DL7AD> adamgreig: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwzVllHCGu5FLV82M1czUFM0dkU/view?usp=sharing
[16:02] <DL7AD> this is one sample from an OV9655
[16:02] <DL7AD> but the OV2640 isnt soo good either https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwzVllHCGu5FaURiLXNyaXVNdjg/view?usp=sharing
[16:05] <SpeedEvil> Isn't that through a window with rain?
[16:05] <DL7AD> dirt
[16:06] <SpeedEvil> what do you mean is the problem with that image other than the dirt
[16:07] <DL7AD> SpeedEvil: as you increase the pixels, you wont see no more details on the actual picture
[16:07] <DL7AD> you wont see POLIZEI written on the car as you increase the pixels. its not sharp enough
[16:07] <SpeedEvil> ah
[16:08] <DL7AD> but maybe it just depends on the settings
[16:08] <SpeedEvil> Are you sure it's not simply focus?
[16:08] <DL7AD> there are thousand of settings
[16:08] <DL7AD> maybe
[16:09] <SpeedEvil> However, it wouldn't surprise me if the resolution of the lens is not equal to the resolution of the imager.
[16:09] <SpeedEvil> plus - if you're reading JPEG, you need to set the bandwidth target right for the quality factor
[16:10] <DL7AD> SpeedEvil: there is one register controling this but it seems to do almost nothing
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[16:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KA7NSR-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KA7NSR-7
[16:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KA7NSR-6 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KA7NSR-6
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[17:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC9ZUY-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC9ZUY-2
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[17:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-18 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-18
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[18:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
[18:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-1 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
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[18:58] <sjaustirni> hi there! I have a question for skilled HABers :)
[19:00] <sjaustirni> The question is - what type of balloons do you use? Whence do you order them from (in the EU)?
[19:01] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> http://randomaerospace.com/Random_Aerospace/Welcome.html
[19:02] <sjaustirni> thank you Geoff-G8DHE-Lap! The prices seem to be really fair!
[19:03] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Steve is on here as rocketboy if you need to chat
[19:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IK8SUT-11 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IK8SUT-11
[19:04] <sjaustirni> thanks. My plans for the first balloon are only in the inception, but Il bear it in mind. Thank you
[19:05] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> The other favourite for electronics hardware is https://store.uputronics.com/
[19:06] <sjaustirni> Thank you. I'll keep coming with new questions ;-)
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[19:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Where abouts in EU are you ?
[19:08] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Gone ....
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[19:40] <LZ1NY> Hello! Anybody knows the frequency of KF5KMP-3 on 70 vm band?
[19:47] <AndyEsser> !payload KF5KMP-3
[19:47] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[19:47] <AndyEsser> !flights
[19:47] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Current flights: 03YAM-1 434.592 MHz RTTY 50/450 7N1 10(5ce8), 03SP5YAM - VAISALA RS41 437.666 MHz, RTTY 50/550 8N1 10(6579), 03UBSEDS18 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(64a5)
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[19:48] <AndyEsser> looks like it's on APRS so it'll be 144.80 I suspect
[19:49] <AndyEsser> LZ1NY
[19:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-SSDV after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-SSDV
[19:50] <LZ1NY> KF5KMP-3 is received by LZ0BGN ( aprs). I wondered if it works in 70 cm also...
[19:52] <lz1dev> hi LZ1NY :)
[19:53] <LZ1NY> 4@0259, >A5=5!
[19:57] <lz1dev> .dial KF5KMP-3
[19:57] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03KF5KMP-3 is over APRS. 144.8Mhz EU/Russia/Africa, 144.39Mhz USA, 144.64Mhz China
[19:58] <lz1dev> i doubt it has 70cm band telemetry :)
[19:59] <LZ1NY> OK, 10x!
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[20:39] <AndyEsser> lz1dev: ta - had forgetten the .dial command
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[20:52] <Sn0w> Hi
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[20:55] <mfa298> hi Sn0w
[20:55] <Sn0w> We are currently doing a HAB project with my school.
[20:56] <Sn0w> Footage link will be post added to YouTube later
[20:58] <mfa298> what part of the world are you launching from ?
[21:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[21:16] <mfa298> Sn0w: what part of the world are you planning on launching from? how are you planning on tracking your balloone ?
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[21:32] <Sn0w> US
[21:33] <Sn0w> I'm using APRS
[21:36] <mfa298> you may want to ask for the aprs callsign to be added to the tracker in #habhub before launching. that should mean it appears on the habhub tracker for the whole flight
[21:36] <Sn0w> Already did
[21:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-5 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-5
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[23:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[23:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF7IQD - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF7IQD
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[23:43] <v3n0M_hUnt3R> wow
[23:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF7IQD-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF7IQD-1
[23:50] <v3n0M_hUnt3R> that balloon is going to land in the water
[23:58] <v3n0M_hUnt3R> when it is
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