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[02:46] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-5 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-5
[02:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Peter _chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Peter%20_chase
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[05:28] <gurlavie_> Hi, we are in the field preparing for a launch and prediction isn't good enough. Is there a reverse prediction option ? I would like to point my target landing area and get launch place.
[05:33] <Darkside> no
[05:33] <Darkside> but you should be able to 'translate' the flight path
[05:34] <Darkside> but surely you only have launch approval for a particular location, so im not sure how this is going to help you
[05:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RJW_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RJW_chase
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[06:26] <x-f> gurlavie_, you can change the landing area a bit by adjusting the burst altitude (more or less gas in the balloon)
[06:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-18 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-18
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[06:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ILHAB-1d after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ILHAB-1d
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[07:08] <PE2BZ> Good morning.... For Windows 10 users: Update takes about 90 minutes so start your engines now....
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[07:15] <pb0ahx> good morning Ben
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[08:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03habil_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=habil_chase
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[08:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 034z7gul_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=4z7gul_chase
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[08:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ilhab-1d_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ilhab-1d_chase
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[09:27] <garymortimer> Morning all, Daves repeater flights still on?
[09:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HABIL after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HABIL
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[09:33] <PE2BZ> garymortimer heard no negative signals :-)
[09:38] <garymortimer> Cool, thanks
[09:38] <garymortimer> Will keep an eye out
[10:14] <PE2BZ> garymortimer you did update the gateway to v 1.8.5 ?
[10:15] <garymortimer> Oh no I'm 9500km away so upgrades won't help ;-)
[10:15] <garymortimer> I would have done if I were there ;-)
[10:15] <PE2BZ> Scotty, beam him up ;-)
[10:15] <garymortimer> Does anyone know if Dave is trying his steered parachute??
[10:15] <PE2BZ> Very funny Scotty. Now beam his clothes up also :-)
[10:16] <PE2BZ> As far as I know he is going to drop a relay tracker from the payload at certain height
[10:16] <PE2BZ> Landing is assumed at my place ;-) but it could en up in the North Sea also
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[10:20] <fbtl> What's the status of the Sun, 2 October, 09:00  13:00 SB HAB?
[10:25] <PE2BZ> fbtl you mean ross on Wye from the UK ?
[10:26] <PE2BZ> As far as I know it still has to go
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[10:35] <fbtl> Hi Ben (PE2BZ), yes I mean the Ross on Wye from the UK!
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[10:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[10:47] <fbtl> What will be the TX freq of the SB HAB?
[10:49] <PE2BZ> Both trackers will transmit on 434.450MHz, mode 1.
[10:50] <PE2BZ> SB and RELAY
[10:53] <fbtl> Thanks Ben (PE2BZ) - 73 Fons (PA4FB)
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[10:58] <DK9UV> Hi, anyone experienced in LoRa? I am just playing a little bit with an RFM95 and wonder if an additonal low noise premap would increase range?
[11:02] <daveake> It'
[11:03] <daveake> It depends on the bandwidth used, but for the 434MHz stuff (limited bandwidth) I'd say don't bother
[11:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[11:16] <DK9UV> I am currently using 868 MHz with BW 125kHz, SF9 CR 4, have seen a nice preamp at uputronics with a PSA4-5043+ and SAW filter and might give a try or build myself
[11:20] <daveake> Worth it for tracking balloons on 868
[11:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP5RZP-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
[11:33] <DK9UV> ok, do you use the pa boost option for 20dBm output?, currently I use only 17dBm, there is now also at 27/30dBm version RFM95PW which might be interesting
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[11:36] <M6MUX> wasn't there supposed to be a flight this morning
[11:36] <M6MUX> pushing the limits of ISH as usual?
[11:37] <M6MUX> anyway, all set up here ready
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[11:39] <fbtl> exit
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[11:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SB after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SB
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[11:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RELAY1 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RELAY1
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[11:52] <garymortimer> Wonderful area for those balloons to travel
[11:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03X0 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=X0
[12:00] <PA4FB> What mode do the SB & Relay HAB TX on 434.450?
[12:02] <Ron_G8FJG> Mode 1 ...I hope!
[12:03] <Ron_G8FJG> Both trackers will transmit on 434.450MHz, mode 1."
[12:03] <PA4FB> Do you mean LoRa?
[12:03] <Ron_G8FJG> yes
[12:03] <PA4FB> Thanks
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[12:05] <gonzo_> any word on launch?
[12:07] <dbrooke> PA4FB: full details are at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/ukhas/o19vwmk4ORI/j59MYGF7BQAJ
[12:13] <PA4FB> Thanks dbrooke
[12:15] <pb0ahx> !flights
[12:15] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03Leek Launch 10(92d0), 03SB 10(5f61), 03RELAY 10(23ca)
[12:15] <pb0ahx> !payload 92d0
[12:15] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Payload 03AndyJSpaceBalloon 10(92d0) 03$$ANDYJ - 03434.25 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/710Hz ASCII-8 none 2
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[12:17] <garymortimer> They don't like real balloons at Downton (Highclere) so careful f they end up there
[12:27] <fsphil> downton habby?
[12:28] <pb0ahx> SB team GL
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[12:29] <pb0ahx> Hoi Wouter
[12:30] <PA3WEG> Hi Herman
[12:30] <PA3WEG> just booted the gateway
[12:30] <PA3WEG> lets see if it works
[12:31] <gonzo_> and they'ree up!
[12:31] <pb0ahx> PA3WEG, u have it updated to vesion 1.8.5 ??
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[12:31] <PA3WEG> I dont think so....
[12:31] <PA3WEG> let me see
[12:31] <PA3WEG> nope
[12:32] <PA3WEG> that is only the display right? It does not affect the decoding?
[12:32] <pb0ahx> fot this flight u must update the system
[12:32] <PA3WEG> OK
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[12:38] <PA3WEG> compiling
[12:38] <pb0ahx> nice
[12:38] <PA3WEG> running
[12:39] <Upu> how do I filter SSDV again ?
[12:39] <pb0ahx> better
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[12:42] <daveake> Upu http://ssdv.habhub.org/SB
[12:42] <Upu> ta
[12:44] <daveake> Ascent rate pretty much on target
[12:44] <daveake> Only 29g free lift which isn't much when you're filling outdoors
[12:46] <daveake> 1m/s means crossing the coast near Bournemouth; 1.5 would be near Hastings :/
[12:48] <PE2BZ> daveake should I move to France ? ;-)
[12:49] <daveake> the horror
[12:49] <daveake> yeah for you it would need to be 2m/s
[12:49] <PE2BZ> Je ne parlez pas Francais
[12:52] <daveake> Once it drops SB, RELAY1 will shoot up then go east
[12:53] <PE2BZ> I´ll take that ;-)
[12:53] <PE2BZ> You can relay on it !
[12:55] <daveake> Well that's the aim of the flight :)
[12:55] <PA3WEG> can you repeat that ? ;)
[12:55] <daveake> crc error
[12:59] <Ron_G8FJG> real crc errors now!
[13:03] <PE2BZ> Ron_G8FJG I have 2 bad crc ´s too, but I expect them to be from another type of signal. No way I believe I receive the SB at this height ?
[13:04] <Ron_G8FJG> had 14 now
[13:04] <Ron_G8FJG> 22
[13:04] <Ron_G8FJG> soon
[13:04] <PE2BZ> Packet SNR -9 freq error 4.0 kHz AFC
[13:04] <PE2BZ> Would be way below the horizon....
[13:04] <Ron_G8FJG> -3khz here
[13:05] <Ron_G8FJG> I could see it on the waterfall about 60k befre blue line
[13:06] <PE2BZ> Great! I have the 7 element beam (fixed) pointed in the right direction, so no (usable) antenna for the Airspy, so no waterfall...
[13:07] <PE2BZ> That´s not completely true I remember now. Disconnect the diamond from the Icom transceiver.... Just a second ;-)
[13:08] <Ron_G8FJG> I'm splitting the signal so as to see it on the flex...70 crc now ...blue line on me
[13:08] <PE2BZ> daveake has much better weather I see !
[13:08] Action: PE2BZ is currently climbing the stairs
[13:08] <Ron_G8FJG> solid on waterfall now...I expected to see " breaks"
[13:09] <daveake> Thyere are some short breaks
[13:10] <daveake> I want to get the best throughput, so the relay tx's as soon as it sees a packet, and SB only waits just long enough for that the repeated packet
[13:12] <Ron_G8FJG> signal has actually gone down! bearly see it now...odd prop
[13:13] <Ron_G8FJG> barely
[13:16] <PE2BZ> Ron if the signal goes up again, can you give me a screenshot of your waterfall ?
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[13:17] <G8AFC> Does anyone know the downlink frequency for balloon SB?
[13:17] <PE2BZ> Both trackers will transmit on 434.450MHz, mode 1.
[13:17] <daveake> Everything is on 434.450
[13:18] <G8AFC> Thanks - Paul
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[13:19] <Ron_G8FJG> http://i.imgur.com/rtuxtoZ.jpg
[13:19] <daveake> Perhaps I should have changed the SSDV to send latest image each time :)
[13:21] <PE2BZ> Thanks Ron. The LopPer attached to the airspy without reducing the gain overwhelmed it ; -)
[13:21] <fsphil> crops are not jpeg friendly
[13:22] Action: PE2BZ now labelled the cables. One with Vertical and one with LogPer
[13:22] <Ron_G8FJG> dont set afc to y my 3pi wouldn't decode until set to n
[13:23] <PE2BZ> What was the key to do that manually ?
[13:23] <Ron_G8FJG> just in gateway.txt
[13:24] <PE2BZ> f for channel 0 and F for channel 1
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[13:24] <PE2BZ> Was easier on my remote system ;-)
[13:26] <Ron_G8FJG> First time I.ve seen the red led light on the Lora board
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[13:28] <Spookydillow> !flights
[13:28] <SpacenearUS> 03Spookydillow: Current flights: 03Leek Launch 10(92d0), 03SB 10(5f61), 03RELAY 10(23ca)
[13:28] <Spookydillow> !dial
[13:28] <SpacenearUS> 03Spookydillow: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[13:28] <PE2BZ> Spookydillow !dial flightname
[13:29] <Spookydillow> !dial SB
[13:29] <SpacenearUS> 03Spookydillow: Latest dials for 03SB 10(5f61): none
[13:29] <Spookydillow> !dial RELAY
[13:29] <SpacenearUS> 03Spookydillow: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[13:29] <PE2BZ> SB and RELAY are LoRa trackers on 434.450
[13:29] <Spookydillow> thanks
[13:30] <PE2BZ> np
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[13:32] <Ron_G8FJG> It's not saving the ssdv to the folder for some reason
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[13:38] <PA3WEG> Ron_G8FJG: does the folder exist and have permissions for the user running the gateway?
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[13:39] <Ron_G8FJG> the folder is there...the rest I've no idea
[13:39] <PA3WEG> normally it is created automatically
[13:39] <gurlavie_> Hi Guys. Just came back from our first launch. Objective was to experience before we do this with students. Was a fantastic experience. Thanks for everyone's help here.
[13:39] <PA3WEG> but the permissions may be wrong
[13:39] <Ron_G8FJG> worked ok on v1.8.0
[13:40] <PE2BZ> gurlavie_ recovery all ok ?
[13:40] <gurlavie_> Yes :) great chase. So fun.
[13:40] <PE2BZ> gurlavie_ looked like some distance to me ;-)
[13:41] <gurlavie_> https://imgur.com/gallery/aDUQH
[13:41] <PE2BZ> Nice!
[13:41] <gurlavie_> We can only do it with short flights. So many limitations.
[13:42] <daveake> Ron_G8FJG: Is SSDV installed ?
[13:42] <Ron_G8FJG> Ben you were right , both my rx show 434.454
[13:43] <PA3WEG> daveake: even better question ;)
[13:43] <PE2BZ> Thanks Ron, I tuned back to 454 :-)
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[13:43] <PE2BZ> gurlavie_ you can re-use the parachute ! But well done !
[13:44] <Ron_G8FJG> daveake I just downloaded and installed v1.8.5 ..how do you mean ssdv installed?? I'm thick remember
[13:44] <PE2BZ> gurlavie_ more receivers would be nice ! Do you have more images from the camera to add to your gallery ? I have a collegue from Israel
[13:44] <gurlavie_> Sure. And the pits and the HABduino. So many lessons learned. We are lucky.
[13:44] <Ron_G8FJG> the folder is there
[13:44] <daveake> To create local jpg files it runs fsphil's ssdv program
[13:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W5LCY-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5LCY-7
[13:44] <daveake> so that needs to be installed
[13:45] <Ron_G8FJG> I'll find it where?
[13:45] <daveake> instructions are in the lora gateway readme :)
[13:45] <gurlavie_> Yes, will add. Indeed in this part of the country we had 0 receivers. On APRS Our help came from Cyprus.
[13:46] <daveake> hmm seems I lied :/
[13:46] <PE2BZ> gurlavie_ Nice !
[13:47] <daveake> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/qdhHirbR/
[13:47] <PE2BZ> ron should be installed in /home/username/ssdv
[13:47] <daveake> doesn't matter where; just install it
[13:51] <Ron_G8FJG> yea wish I could tip faster...it works ...now to update the other Pi
[13:52] <Ron_G8FJG> bugger power lead fell out ..waiting foe reboot
[13:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KB1KVR - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB1KVR
[13:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0HIP-7 after 038 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
[13:54] <fsphil> nice pic
[13:55] <daveake> bit tense when descended slightly over the Severn
[13:56] <daveake> back to normal after it got over land again
[13:57] <Ron_G8FJG> thanks Dave got my own pics on both receivers now
[13:57] <daveake> great
[13:57] <daveake> I'll get it to display a message on startup if you have that enabled but ssdv is missing
[13:58] <daveake> Also I the instructions need to go in the readme; I thought they were
[14:00] <Ron_G8FJG> have the decoded ssdv packets I decoded before I installed ssdv saved on my Pi anywhere?
[14:00] <Ron_G8FJG> I can see the telemetry text folder
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[14:02] <PE2BZ> does the message ¨Flight Controller message 14 bytes¨ from the gateway ring a bell to someone ?
[14:03] <daveake> yeah bad packet happens to like a message from my games controller
[14:03] <daveake> it's ignored
[14:03] <PE2BZ> It appeared to come from the 869 LoRa. Disabled it now...
[14:05] <daveake> yeah wider bandwidth makes it more likely
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[14:15] <daveake> seems to be floating already :/
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[14:22] <daveake> Not going to make the coast at this rate
[14:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K1AMO - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K1AMO
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[14:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LCARS_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LCARS_chase
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[14:50] <PE2BZ> daveake sorry to hear. Going for recovery ?
[14:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5KMP-5 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-5
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[14:58] <daveake> yeah packing chase car now
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[15:00] <Ron_G8FJG> going to break sig for a while to get an extra 3db
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[15:08] <garymortimer> Very nice area to goto look for crop circles here http://www.the-barge-inn.com/index.php
[15:08] <garymortimer> If it turnsleft more
[15:08] <Ron_G8FJG> blue line of deafness approaches
[15:09] <garymortimer> pardon
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[15:10] <Ron_G8FJG> I heard that
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[15:10] <garymortimer> LoRa should do better though???
[15:10] <RocketBoy> SB/RELAY1 slow puncture?
[15:12] <Ron_G8FJG> not when you live on a mud bank...looks like someone has picked up the baton!
[15:12] <Ron_G8FJG> thats me done
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[15:21] <Ron_G8FJG> decode 10km after blue line
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[15:33] <Ron_G8FJG> PE2BZ : back beaming to you Ben...afk..... cooking Sunday dinner now
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[15:45] <garymortimer> Quick half at the Air Balloon en route Dave?
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[15:52] <garymortimer> The Air Balloon on the nose range 2 miles
[15:54] <Rebounder> KF5KMP-5 inbound
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[16:25] <garymortimer> Daves getting close
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[16:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0RPI_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0RPI_chase
[16:38] <jakeio> Is the habhub map a little blurry for anyone else?
[16:38] <jakeio> Reload fixed it.
[16:39] <jakeio> Oh, no.
[16:39] <jakeio> It did not.
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[16:46] <lz1dev> jakeio: high density screen
[16:46] <lz1dev> ?
[16:46] <daveake> Pitstop
[16:46] <lz1dev> jakeio: try zooming out, ctrl+0 ctrl--
[16:46] <daveake> Just checking likely landing spots
[16:47] <jakeio> lz1dev, not more than average and have already tried. And how are you daveake?
[16:47] <garymortimer> Micky D for supper !
[16:48] <jakeio> Oh, just looked on the map. Haha.
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[16:54] <garymortimer> You can get right up onto the ridge at Roundway Hill if you need a look out Dave, just North of Devizes
[16:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KB4ZOD-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB4ZOD-11
[16:59] <PE2BZ> daveake do you still receive it ?
[17:04] <garymortimer> Should you need it Folly Road is the way up. You can get to OS 015648
[17:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UBSEDS18 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS18
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[17:30] <PE2BZ> SB looks to be ¨hanging around¨
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[17:48] <daveake> recovered
[17:49] <tweetBot> @daveake: Most. Bizarre. Landing. Ever. #ukhas https://t.co/eGfKwKq53x
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[17:51] <Vaizki> hehe nice
[17:51] <PE2BZ> Great to hear, Dave !
[17:52] <PE2BZ> daveake it´s all resusable ?
[17:53] <daveake> Well the balloon isn't going to be :-)
[17:53] <PE2BZ> No sticky tape available ;-)
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[17:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB0EMJ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB0EMJ-11
[17:58] <Upu> nice Dave :)
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[17:59] <garymortimer> Posh spot, well done
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[18:07] <tweetBot> @benbrpi: @daveake so what did / didnt happen? #UKHAS
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[18:14] <garymortimer> I am assuming the signal was locally picked up not the 70km shown on the map Dave......
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[18:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Bitxh_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Bitxh_chase
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[19:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Send it back to Steve under warranty ?
[19:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> ;-)
[19:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W0ISU-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W0ISU-9
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[20:36] <daveake> Not one of Steve's Geoff-G8DHE-M. Freebie Pawan
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[20:51] <daveake> Oh, and it landed here - http://www.sandridgefarmhousebacon.co.uk/frames.html :)
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[21:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DanB-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DanB-2
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[21:17] <Ian_> Obviously the force of attraction brought RELAY1 and SB down towards the curing house . . . Mmmmm! Wonder if they would sponsor a flight for you. The connection is just too compelling.
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[21:37] <evilroots> !TRACKER
[21:37] <evilroots> !aprs
[21:37] <SpacenearUS> 03evilroots: Tracking via APRS: 034Z7GUL-11 10(ILHAB-1d), 03AD6AM-11 10(UBSEDS15), 03AD6AM-12 10(UBSEDS18), 03DK3SB-10, 03DK3SB-12, 03DK3SB-13, 03DK3SB-8, 03DL3AKB-11, 03DL7AD-11, 03HABIL-1, 03K2JJI-11, 03K6RPT-11, 03KD2EAT-11, 03KD5ZPL-11, 03KD9DBI-11, 03KG5KNM-11, 03KG7WFR-11, 03KI7CUX-11, 03KI7CUX-9 10(KI7CUX-11_chase), 03M0SBU-11 10(UBSEDS15), 03M0SBU-12 10(UBSEDS18), 03M0UPU-7, 03M0
[21:37] <SpacenearUS> 3SP9UOB-10 10(SP9UOB), 03VE3KCL-9, 03VK3YT-11, 03VK4BW-11, 03W7QO-7, 03WB8ELK-3, 03WB8ELK-6
[21:37] <evilroots> !APRS
[21:38] <evilroots> !APRSTRACKER
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[23:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[23:15] <M6MUX> what happened to SB? just logged in and i didn't get any packets from it at all
[23:17] <M6MUX> ah. just trawled through the zeus log. shame.
[23:18] <M6MUX> lolz nice one daveake https://twitter.com/daveake/status/782638579168124928/photo/1
[23:22] <M6MUX> looking at the landing location, that bloke is seriously loaded.
[23:24] <Darkside> lolwtf
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