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[03:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-3 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-3
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[03:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-11
[03:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RALT_A after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RALT_A
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[04:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RALT_B - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RALT_B
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[04:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-5 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-5
[04:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9ELS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9ELS
[04:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03carlo_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=carlo_chase
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[05:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2EAT-10 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2EAT-10
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[06:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-13
[06:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GAS-8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GAS-8
[06:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GAS-4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GAS-4
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[06:27] <La147> 35GHz
[06:28] <La147> 35GHz Staffordshire University Electronic Engineering
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[06:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP9UOB - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB
[06:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 032E0EBR-4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=2E0EBR-4
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[07:16] <SA6BSS-Mike> sp9uob on trhe boarder Germany - Netherland going south
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[07:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UBNL - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBNL
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[07:45] <gonzo_> busy airspace over there
[07:48] <daveake> I tried a sudo reboot over the air (air being about 2 metres) ... https://youtu.be/Mm35r6qAPCc
[07:49] <Darkside> telnet over lora?
[07:49] <Darkside> lol
[07:49] <daveake> yup
[07:51] <Darkside> i had to trigger my cutdown payload twice yesterday
[07:51] <Darkside> didnt go on the first try, i think the string got wet and froze
[07:51] <Darkside> had to give it 2 burns
[07:52] <daveake> hah
[07:52] <Darkside> we had a very english launch
[07:52] <Darkside> the balloon got quite wet
[07:52] <Darkside> http://www.areg.org.au/archives/206228
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[07:56] <gonzo_> you need a pyro cutdown
[07:56] <Darkside> well
[07:56] <Darkside> i've got them now
[07:56] <gonzo_> wrap the wire in some shotgun powder
[07:56] <Darkside> but last time i did it it screwed up
[07:56] <Darkside> i was putting too much current through the igniter
[07:57] <gonzo_> popped the wire before the thing fired?
[07:57] <Darkside> popped the nichrome wire in the pyrogen igniter, but nothing ignited
[07:57] <Darkside> was very disappointing
[07:57] <gonzo_> I bet
[07:57] <Darkside> we'll probably fly them again for a non-customer launch
[07:58] <Darkside> do a bit more testing of current limiting and the like
[07:58] <gonzo_> was the wet landing because you didn;'t get the cutsown you wanted?
[07:58] <gonzo_> (link too slow to see the pics yet)
[07:59] <Darkside> it wasnt a wet landing
[07:59] <Darkside> it was a wet launch
[08:01] <gonzo_> you have rain there??
[08:01] <gonzo_> (pics finaly loaded here)
[08:01] <Darkside> lol
[08:01] <Darkside> yes we have rain
[08:01] <Darkside> https://goo.gl/photos/piF4pjtxVP2szUFcA
[08:01] <Darkside> cleared up nicely for the launch tho
[08:02] <Darkside> http://www.areg.org.au/archives/206228/img_2920-medium
[08:02] <Darkside> a bit breezy tho
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[09:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-5
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[09:58] <garymortimer> Is there a list of GPS that can be successfully unlocked for HABing anywhere. Just considering ordering some to com eon the slow boat from China. I'm guessing all Max8's are Ok ?
[09:58] <garymortimer> This one was on my radar http://www.banggood.com/7M8M-Ublox-M8N-GPS-Module-for-APM-Pixhawk-CC3D-Naze32-F3-Flight-Control-p-1078657.html
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[10:04] <edmoore> garymortimer: all the ubloxes work fine if set to aurborne mode
[10:04] <edmoore> There is probably a v out of date list of other known-good gpses on the wiki, but it sort of died with the ascendency of ublox
[10:05] <garymortimer> Ok thanks ed
[10:07] <Vaizki> the plural of ublox should be ubloxen. just because.
[10:15] <gonzo_> been reading the jargon file ?
[10:26] <BubUK> garymortimer: where are you based ?
[10:32] <Maxell> Woot, pb0ahx is receiving SP9UOB!
[10:33] <Maxell> Also suffcient APRS coverage above .nl
[10:37] <Maxell> '$$SP9UOB,18139,103343,51.98472,6.48735,13311,13163,24,211,-5,129,237,40B,5,PA,1*25F9\n' (4e5c5a687ef4008a622d723c91d5e46833b37e38529fa9e2dc6ea9373d4d7133) from PB0AHX
[10:37] <Maxell> However fighting with APRS importer
[10:37] <Maxell> So he's not showing up :(
[10:42] <Maxell> APRS "should be" lower priority then dl-fldigi uploaders
[10:42] Nick change: Kryczek_ -> Kryczek
[10:52] <pb0ahx> sp9uob also in cw here PA/SP9UOB/AM JO31FW ALT13298 M
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[11:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[11:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-17 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-17
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[11:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DO9HO-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO9HO-11
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[11:57] <Vance> Hi all, attended HAB intro with Raspberry Pi Foundation - Going to do a HAB flight with some students from my school
[11:57] <Vance> Wanted to ask collective brains if there are any pre-approved launch sites in the Oxford area...?
[12:02] <AndyEsser> morning all
[12:03] <AndyEsser> err... afternooon even
[12:06] <craag> Vance: None with rolling permission as far as I know. There's a company that launches out of westcott regularly.
[12:09] <Vance> craag - Thanks for the response. Looks like I will need to scout about
[12:09] <adamgreig> probably easiest to just apply for a site near you, most people don't launch from pre-approved sites
[12:10] <Vance> I would like to get the students to think about the pros and cons of launch sites, but given the 28 days notice for the CAA approval I was thinking I may need to pre-approve a number of sites
[12:10] <adamgreig> don't try that, they won't appreciate it
[12:10] <adamgreig> you can ask for a few different dates on your request, which is a better way to hedge against weather
[12:10] <craag> (and involves a lot less paperwork for them)
[12:13] <Vance> If anyone has any locations around oxford that they have used before I would appreciate your guidance as a starter
[12:15] <mfa298> Vance: you may do better looking for sites that are suitable and accessible for you, then go about seeking permission for them.
[12:16] <mfa298> if you're trying to use someone elses site then when you can consider launching will be governed by them.
[12:16] <Vance> When you have the whole countryside to consider its just a case of where to start looking...
[12:17] <craag> Any reason for not using the school itself?
[12:19] <mfa298> open space that you can get permission from the landowner to be on would be a starting point and would likely start to limit your options.
[12:19] <mfa298> then consider if it's likely to be acceptable to the CAA (i.e. your not at the end of a major runway)
[12:19] <Vance> Its pretty exposed. When we did our launch before we used a treeline to give some wind cover
[12:20] <Vance> Thanks all for your comments and suggestions. Looks like I need to go do a bit more research :-)
[12:24] <mfa298> you could always try asking on the mailing list, but I'm not sure you'll find many accessible existing sites.
[12:38] <edmoore> Vance: there are none around oxford that are pre-approved
[12:38] <edmoore> There aren't really official sites
[12:41] <edmoore> Use someone you know who owns land and ask them, or find a park and ask the park authority, or....
[12:41] <edmoore> Somewhat like wanting to host a party.
[12:43] <gonzo_> but in this case, you can't sneak it in whilst the parents are away
[12:48] <edmoore> Vance: a group did once launch from uni parks with the constraint of being pre7.30 am iirc
[12:57] <edmoore> It's difficult really with all the airfields around here
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[14:10] <ludmila1> hello everyone
[14:11] <edmoore> hi ludmila1
[14:11] <ludmila1> does many people in here do HAB long range flying?
[14:12] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> If you mean a few times round the Earth then a few do indeed !
[14:13] <ludmila1> :) yes
[14:13] <ludmila1> I am interested in this, and have a few questions about what is best to use
[14:13] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Leo, richardeoin are frequently about
[14:14] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> best to ask questions and hope for answers when people read the scrollback
[14:14] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> oftn just a few minutes sometimes longer!
[14:14] <Vaizki> or hang around here for a year like me so some stuff will rub off on you...
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[14:14] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> There is tha approach seems to work for me as well ;-)
[14:15] <ludmila1> OK sure thanks Geoff.. Top of the list are, battery that can withstand the temps, and balloon to use for crusing +40K feet
[14:15] <ludmila1> We have built a small custom PCB that does both APRS and HF transmissions(WSPR) but the few tests we have done seem to indicate our small lipo batteries are not lasting long with the low temps
[14:16] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Cruising at 40Kms+ is unlikely, 10-20Kms seems to be favourite for floaters. Also you need to build your own balloons in mst cases for really long range .
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[14:16] <ludmila1> what material do you suggest for building custom ballons?
[14:16] <edmoore> watch the ukhas talk by richard from last weekend
[14:16] <edmoore> exactly the talk fo you
[14:16] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Most tend to use Solar Power and charge Lipo batteries once they are warm enough tom take charge
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[14:17] <ludmila1> this on youtube?
[14:17] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> indeed great alk by richardeoinat the conference lets find the youtub elink
[14:18] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsaAI_L8A1g
[14:18] <ludmila1> :) thanks Geoff
[14:19] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> its at 5:35 minutes
[14:19] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> hours:minutes
[14:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DART1 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DART1
[14:23] <ludmila1> thank you
[14:25] <Vaizki> ludmila1, here is one of his.. https://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=5&qm=All&f=UBSEDS18&q=UBSEDS18
[14:26] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Also some details here of leo's flights B-64 did ten times round the earth .... http://leobodnar.com/balloons/
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[14:35] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Oh and the ubseds site page http://www.bristol-seds.co.uk/
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[14:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03TURTLE1 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TURTLE1
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[14:55] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Oh I wonder if UBSEDS18 really will cpme up the channel!
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[15:02] <AndyEsser> did my first takeoff, and two landings this morning :)
[15:02] <AndyEsser> me likey this flying stuff
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[15:04] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> 2 landings from only one takeoff ?
[15:07] <fsphil> that can happen. though usually on comets
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[15:12] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah yes you split in two and land each wing I guess ...
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[15:24] <AndyEsser> Geoff-G8DHE-M: instructor did the first takeoff
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[15:40] <kc2pit> 03:39 < SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: UBNL - https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBNL
[15:40] <kc2pit> Woohoo. Something worked.
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[16:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0348687662_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=48687662_chase
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[16:49] <Maxell> bertrik: I'm using the habtracker for dl-fldigi w/ websdr Eindhoven for VHF SP9UOB :D
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[17:06] <Maxell> !flight SP9UOB
[17:06] <SpacenearUS> 03Maxell: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[17:06] <Maxell> o_0
[17:06] <AndyEsser> !flights
[17:06] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Current flights: 03UBSEDS18 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(64a5)
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[17:23] <arjunnaha> What's are the thoughts about using a GoPro Hero 5 for payload cam?
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[17:44] <jake__> hello leo
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[21:42] <Babs_> Evening everyone - Long time no speak. Hope the conf was fun, family holiday duty kept me away....:-(
[21:44] <Babs_> I have last minute permission to do a launch on saturday, looks like there is a launch that has some potential time overlap, they are on 434.25MHz, I will be on 434.647MHz. Is that sufficient separation of frequencies? Just trying to work out timings
[21:44] <gonzo_> uber plenty
[21:45] <Babs_> ok cool. thanks gonzo.
[21:45] <daveake> even an rfm22 would struggle to drift that much
[21:48] <Babs_> thanks guys. Daveake - re: eclipse spotting, I have been doing some work calibrating the gyros and accelerometers across a range of temperatures
[21:48] <Babs_> https://www.flickr.com/photos/91049302@N00/29799048805/in/dateposted-public/
[21:48] <Babs_> got them corrected from -20 degrees to +30 now...
[21:49] <daveake> cool
[21:49] <daveake> as you did
[21:50] <Babs_> yes, who would have known my freezer goes down to -22
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[22:01] <SpeedEvil> i was really durprised mine will hit under -45C
[22:01] <SpeedEvil> (with a couple of days 'boost'
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[22:19] <Laurenceb__> has anyone here flown bubble wrap?
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[22:26] <Laurenceb__> wondering what it will do at low pressure
[22:26] <Laurenceb__> maybe I should try with vacuum chamber
[22:26] <Ian_> Stretch or rupture
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[22:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UBNL - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBNL
[22:27] <Laurenceb__> well one of those or it will be stiff enough to resist stretch
[22:27] <Laurenceb__> but which one is the question...
[22:28] <Ian_> Bit of both of course. The point is at what point will it burst?
[22:33] <Laurenceb__> I guess it can be pin pricked with a sewing needle
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[23:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[23:47] <ludmila1> Thanks Geoff, so much to learn!
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[23:57] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: well.
[23:57] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: poke it with 14PSI/areaofbubble
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