highaltitude.log.20160917

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[00:19] <vk4tec> test
[00:19] <vk4tec> andrew brisbane
[00:19] <vk4tec> waiting for out aust baloon
[00:19] <vk4tec> south
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[01:41] <hifi_> Hello everyone
[01:43] <hifi_> I have one question: someone has ever launched a balloon tracker with high power 2.4ghz WiFi, and then tracked back with parabolic antenna focused at the position of the balloon, via GPS position sent over the Wifi link?
[01:43] <SpeedEvil> It's problematic
[01:44] <SpeedEvil> You pretty much need quite large antennas
[01:44] <SpeedEvil> 30* legal power only gets you to 5* the range or so
[01:44] <SpeedEvil> If the nominal range is 50m, that's only 250m.
[01:45] <SpeedEvil> you need to get to at least 50km.
[01:45] <SpeedEvil> That is of the order of a 20m dish you need. Perhaps 10m@5.8
[01:46] <hifi_> For example I found on Aliexpress this model. Maybe is too much heavy, but with 6600mw wifi power and clear view I tought possible to put wifi in the weather balloon
[01:46] <hifi_> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Kasens-N9600-High-Power-6600MW-150Mbps-USB-Wireless-Wifi-Adapter-80dbi-Antenna-Sep-01/32727195409.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.276.KxICkm&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_112_10069_110_111_10017_109_108_10060_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10037_10054_301_10033_10059_10032_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_7&btsid=2e5a307a-3153-4f94-96e5-74e36d6
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[01:47] <vk4tec> go for 433 MHz easy radio modules
[01:47] <vk4tec> 19k2
[01:47] <vk4tec> www.tech-sofware.net
[01:48] <vk4tec> www.tech-software.net
[01:50] <hifi_> Yeah, 433 is my second choice if 2.4ghz is not possibile. How much power do you put in 433mhz modules?
[01:57] <vk4tec> are u a ham
[01:58] <vk4tec> look on the web mW goes how far
[01:58] <vk4tec> you tell me - what is the sensitivity of your rx
[01:58] <vk4tec> what is the power output
[01:58] <vk4tec> what is the free space path loss
[01:58] <vk4tec> what is your antenna gain
[01:59] <vk4tec> coax loass
[01:59] <vk4tec> u can work it out
[01:59] <vk4tec> we do in radar
[02:00] <aadamson> http://www.changpuak.ch/electronics/calc_10.php - fyi
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[06:01] <Darkside> vk4tec:
[06:01] <Darkside> you'll be waiting a while
[06:01] <Darkside> we're not launching until tomorrow!
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[07:41] <Rebounder> morrn
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[07:59] <x-f> morning
[08:00] <x-f> was SA6BSS-Mike WSPR balloon heard again after launch?
[08:14] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2EAT-10 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2EAT-10
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[08:17] <PE2BZ> good morning !
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[08:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HORUSLORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUSLORA
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[08:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5ZM-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5ZM-9_chase
[08:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI-9_chase
[08:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HORUS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUS
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[09:54] <AndyEsser> heading into wales this afternoon... think I should take the 817 to the top of snowdon and blast out 5W of RTTY and see who can pick it up?
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[10:09] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> x-f: nop, no sign of it.
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[10:15] <SA6BSS-Mike> going to change a couple of thing next time, I?m switching to 20m only - shorter antenna (lighter) probaly better daytime range as its solar only
[10:18] <SA6BSS-Mike> had a great pm from aadamson with how to solder the antennas to the payload - no more legs falling of :)
[10:35] <Rebounder> morrn, again
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[11:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[12:13] <tweetBot> @darksidelemm: Getting prepped for a balloon launch tomorrow morning! https://t.co/KJ4oJO858L #projecthorus #ukhas #amateurradio
[12:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE3HGN - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE3HGN
[12:24] <PE2BZ> next sunday evening the yearly Gasballoon world championship starts from Germany. http://gordonbennett.aero/ I guess no trackers or PITS on board :-(
[12:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Nimbus2_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Nimbus2_chase
[12:32] Action: SpeedEvil idly wonders what the low level heavy helicopter was flying over at 5AM.
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[12:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W3EAX-8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W3EAX-8
[12:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W3EAX-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W3EAX-12
[13:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0HIP-7 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
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[14:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JHN_HAB_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JHN_HAB_chase
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[14:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DART1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DART1
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[14:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UBSEDS18 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS18
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[15:12] <KT5TK> PE2BZ: Live tracking: http://gordonbennett.aero/live
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[16:03] <M0RJX> having a play with LED's and atmega http://i.imgur.com/MmKk0Ym.jpg
[16:04] <M0RJX> Interesting the way the display seems to do line 1 then 3 then 2 then 4
[16:04] <M0RJX> \join #habhub
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[16:25] <adamgreig> M0RJX: ICARUS IV Aug 2016 eh? haven't seen that payload name for a while!
[16:26] <adamgreig> I still fondly remember the old tracker seeing "CAR" inside "ICARUS" and doing a chase car.
[16:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AA6EG-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AA6EG-11
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[17:16] <PE2BZ> KT5TK Thanks for the link !
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[17:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MOJAVE-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MOJAVE-11
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[18:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
[18:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[18:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KK4IAW_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK4IAW_chase
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[18:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KJ4TDM-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
[18:42] <M0RJX> adamgreig, :-)
[18:43] <M0RJX> Were getting back into the action Icarus IV will rise like a phoenix or some crap like that :-)
[18:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8YQK-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8YQK-11
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[21:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF5KMP-5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-5
[21:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI-9_chase
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[22:16] <amell> AndyEsser: have you had anything from RSGB yet? Still waiting here....
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[22:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03******_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=******_chase
[22:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03czn347_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=czn347_chase
[22:33] <daveake> amell They starte "at least 6 working days from receipt of papers"
[22:33] <daveake> state
[22:34] <daveake> Which would be this coming Wednmesday
[22:35] <amell> Thanks. The countdown has been reset :)
[22:35] <Ian_> No truth in the story that AndyEsser has been allocated M6QFI ?
[22:37] <Ian_> He could wear it on his flying suit (jacket with badges) and earn the ire of QFI's and the amusement of communicators. QFI = the aerodrome lights are on (but nobody is home)!
[22:38] <Ian_> Shame that Qxx isn't allocated. So much fun could be had. Of course there is no such allocation ban on the Zxx series, so . . . ;)
[22:39] <amell> I am anxious to begin APRS transmission of my external temperature.
[22:39] <daveake> aren't we all
[22:39] <Ian_> Whew, I thought that was going to be 'internal temperature' for a moment there!
[22:39] <mfa298> Ian_: oddly enough it was a ZXX that did my RAE course.
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[22:40] <Ian_> Instructor rather than ringer of course?
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[22:40] <adamgreig> Ian_: fyi your honey is also very good at sweet chilli sauce
[22:40] <adamgreig> haven't gotten around to putting it on toast yet though :P
[22:41] <amell> iOS 10 seems to have stability issues
[22:41] <amell> I have honey on toast most nights
[22:41] <Ian_> I'll tell the girls, thanks. Runny honey on toast is . . . very runny
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[23:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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