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[01:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DO9HO-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO9HO-11
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[06:19] <tweetBot> @jamescoxon: Just about to set off to the #ukhas conference in Cambridge, see you all later...
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[06:31] <BubUK> Morning. Nice day for it ... Horrible UK Autumn has arrived.
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[06:42] <Upu> yep confirming its raining
[06:42] <BubUK> Yeah, but not according to met office / Bbc. I just got soaked so it definitely is :-)
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[06:52] <BubUK> Anyone recommend a decent iPad client? This one keeps losing posts ...
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[06:56] <edmoore> BubUK: in general i have switched from command line stuff to irccloud
[06:56] <edmoore> which has a nice client and ipad and android apps
[06:56] <edmoore> works super well so far
[06:56] <edmoore> and also one of the developers is in this channel
[06:56] <BubUK> That's what I'm using. Keeps disconnecting though. Perhaps it's me.
[06:56] <edmoore> oh right
[06:56] <edmoore> odd
[06:56] <edmoore> wobbly net connection?
[06:57] <BubUK> Yeah, that is the other possibility. Pity you can't pull in missed messages.
[06:58] <edmoore> irccloud should stay logged in even if your local connection goes down
[07:00] <BubUK> I thought that. It doesn't seem to.
[07:01] <tweetBot> @stratodean: Looking forward to the #ukhas conference today in Cambridge! Nearly there 🎈
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[07:25] <SA6BSS-Mike> BubUK: u can read backlog here http://habhub.org/zeusbot/logs/highaltitude.log.20160910
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[08:41] <ryan_in> I appreciate that everyone is busy at the conference. But how do you decide on a launch date, when the flight predictions keep changing so much
[08:41] <nick_> ryan_in: pick a time that's convenient for you?
[08:42] <nick_> And some time after you think your payload will be ready.
[08:42] <nick_> And if you can manage it, find a few dates that would work for you, aim for the first and change to a later one if the weather isn't cooperating.
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[08:45] <ryan_in> nick_: Alright, thank you
[08:47] <nick_> NB: I've never launched a balloon, but I've lurked here for some years.
[08:47] <nick_> I don't think people pick dates primarily on weather, but pick a range of dates (also you should apply for a NOTAM for a range of dates) based on other criteria, then check the weather and predictions as the day approaches.
[08:48] <nick_> And be prepared to delay launching until the wather is favourable.
[08:48] <PE2BZ> ryan_in decide if it hurts really bad if you can not retrieve the payload
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[08:54] <andycamb> As well as the YouTube stream from the UKHAS conference there is a stream at http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/ioa/streaming
[08:54] <tweetBot> @AmsatUK: Watch the #UKHAS Conference 2016 Live from 10:00am today on: https://t.co/oRH8lm36y7 #amsat #hamradio #hamr https://t.co/GuvvjjDpRw
[08:58] <x-f> thanks for the link!
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[09:05] <x-f> maybe next year i'll make it
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[09:08] <M0RJX> About to start streaming
[09:08] <number10> working fine on steve channel
[09:09] <andycamb> UKHAS Conference 2016 Stream live at http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/ioa/streaming
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[09:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF5KMP-3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-3
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[09:28] <fsphil> x-f: yeah been a while since you where over
[09:29] <Upu> Any questions for Dave post them here
[09:32] <Darkside_> hey its dave!
[09:32] <Darkside_> hi from australia
[09:32] <fsphil> you got a mention earlier Darkside_
[09:33] <Darkside_> oh? >_>
[09:33] <Darkside_> what about?
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[09:33] <fsphil> dave mentioned briefly about the fast fsk stuff
[09:33] <Darkside_> oh right
[09:34] <Darkside_> cool
[09:34] <Darkside_> will be flying that next weekend :-)
[09:34] <fsphil> "fast rtty" as he called it :)
[09:34] <Darkside_> pff
[09:34] <fsphil> well technically true :)
[09:34] <Darkside_> yeah
[09:35] <Darkside_> given its using RS232 :P
[09:45] <Darkside_> yay dave
[09:45] <Darkside_> what was the talk topic?
[09:45] <Darkside_> i missed it
[09:45] <fsphil> lora
[09:45] <fsphil> now, aliens
[09:45] <Darkside_> i mean the next one
[09:46] <Darkside_> is this oliver?
[09:46] <Darkside_> or whatever his name is
[09:46] <fsphil> milton wainwright
[09:46] <Darkside_> oh ok
[09:46] <Darkside_> wait, aliens?
[09:46] <Upu> Where is Oliver?
[09:46] <fsphil> don't think oli is here
[09:46] <Darkside_> ookay
[09:46] <fsphil> is he registerd?
[09:46] <daveake> lol Darkside_ I thought you might pick me up on that :)
[09:46] <craag> fsphil: nope
[09:47] <Darkside_> daveake: i was going to ask some snide questions about why are you using a terrible closed source radio modem that is also known as the devil
[09:47] <Darkside_> but i'm using it too :P
[09:48] <fsphil> lora will make kids cry, and kick a kitten
[09:48] <Upu> Deal with it.gif
[09:48] <Darkside_> haha
[09:49] <Darkside_> ok need a better net connection...
[09:49] <Darkside_> so much buffering
[09:50] <x-f> i switched to the youtube stream because of that
[09:50] <Darkside_> link to the youtube stream?
[09:50] <x-f> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsaAI_L8A1g
[09:50] <x-f> it's on the conference wiki page
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[09:51] <Darkside_> ah no shot of the person on that feed
[09:52] <russss> I am very late
[09:53] <Darkside_> heh i see someone is reading this channel
[09:53] <Darkside_> (whoever is controlling the camera)
[09:53] <craag> no he's not
[09:54] <Darkside_> man i should have given a talk by remote or something on the FFSK stuff
[09:54] <Darkside_> oh well
[09:54] <Darkside_> maybe next year
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[09:54] <Darkside_> whats with the jars of marmalade?
[09:55] <fsphil> honey :)
[09:55] <Darkside_> presenter presents?
[09:55] <fsphil> Ian_ brought some
[09:56] <Upu> "some" = all
[09:57] <fsphil> keeping the camera operator busy
[10:00] <daveake> Jars of marmalade? I thought they were growth medium for alien bugs
[10:01] <daveake> Darkside Yeah that would have been good
[10:01] <daveake> Next year you'll have some flight results though
[10:01] <fsphil> FFSK, good name
[10:02] <fsphil> for images it can be FFDV
[10:02] <Darkside_> FSDV
[10:02] <craag> freaky-fast-digital-video?
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[10:14] <Darkside_> whos that up the front row with the laptop
[10:14] <x-f> ejected dust from volcanoes can reach stratosphere, what if those events have carried these organisms up there?
[10:14] <Darkside_> x-f: hell, we carry stuff up to the stratosphere :P
[10:15] <fsphil> this stuff could be falling off the balloon
[10:15] <craag> Darkside_: that's sven I believe
[10:16] <craag> 50s of delay on the youtube stream btw - so post questions early if you have them
[10:16] <Darkside_> mmk
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[10:20] <pb0ahx> !flights
[10:20] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03UBSEDS18 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(64a5)
[10:25] <tweetBot> @m1bxf: Oh dear, another parking #fail! This time at the #UKHAS conference. https://t.co/AgrETljadc
[10:27] <x-f> that was an interesting topic
[10:28] <Darkside_> https://imgur.com/lLxCoWM.jpg
[10:29] <daveake> I had a guy email me a year ago to try and get me to help with the alien bug-hunting thing
[10:29] <daveake> I googled him
[10:30] <daveake> and declined
[10:30] <Darkside_> hah
[10:30] <edmoore> we are in a hobby that correlates strongly with google-induced declinable people
[10:37] <Darkside_> yes.
[10:37] <Darkside_> i believe terry had a few emails from balloon fetisishts
[10:37] <Darkside_> fetishists*
[10:37] <daveake> I wonder what would happen if on my next NOTAM application I put "Number of Balloons: 10,000"
[10:39] <fsphil> I bet he wouldn't notice
[10:39] <fsphil> "oh another one from dave, *approved*"
[10:39] <daveake> lol
[10:45] <Darkside_> this is why we dont fly HF transmitters anymore
[10:47] <edmoore> someone ask jcoxon if he still has the video of his payload being dragged over a pylon
[10:47] <fsphil> eek
[10:48] <craag> he says no time for a video - too much running
[10:48] <fsphil> running, and screaming
[10:52] <edmoore> it was the onboard video
[10:52] <edmoore> i certainly remember him screaming and running and slowing down as more and more mud caked onto his shoes
[10:53] <craag> he doesn't have the video
[10:53] <edmoore> i bet he does
[10:55] <number10> after landing on an air base and going across pylons I guess thats why he decided to try picos for a while
[10:56] <Darkside_> heh
[10:56] <Darkside_> we actually need aproval for picos here now
[10:56] <fsphil> :/
[10:56] <Darkside_> you need to do a risk assessment and other stuff
[10:56] <Darkside_> so just launching a pico floater isn't really a thing anymore
[10:56] <Darkside_> i don't think VK3YT knows, or wants to know about that bit of the legislation
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[11:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[11:03] <Darkside_> similar stuff in australia
[11:03] <Darkside_> same ICAO definitions are in effect
[11:03] <Darkside_> as of this month
[11:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-5 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-5
[11:04] <Darkside_> enjoy your tea
[11:04] <Darkside_> aww no more stream
[11:05] <Darkside_> boo
[11:07] <pb0ahx> stream here ok but no sound anymore
[11:08] <Darkside_> im on the youtube stream
[11:08] <Darkside_> not the uni one
[11:13] <pb0ahx> i looking on http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/ioa/streaming/
[11:15] <PE2BZ> is this the 11:40 12:00 break ?
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[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-5 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-5
[11:19] <tweetBot> @matttaylr: You have to respect any conference agenda that includes a end of day session entitled "Pub" - #ukhas 2016 https://t.co/mddgo5PbW4
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[11:23] <fsphil> PE2BZ: yeah
[11:23] <PE2BZ> thanks fsphil
[11:23] <PE2BZ> Need to see Dave live ;-)
[11:28] <fsphil> dave: unplugged
[11:28] <PE2BZ> Dave got talent ;-)
[11:28] <andycamb> Sound turned off on the ioa feed while there are no talks on - just in case somebody thinks they are having a 'private conversation' in the audience seating
[11:29] <PE2BZ> andycamb thanks for letting us know
[11:29] Action: PE2BZ is playing the sound of silence
[11:30] <andycamb> The break has become more like lunch so starting agin
[11:30] <andycamb> again at 12:45
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[11:50] <Darkside_> aaand we're back
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[11:50] <Darkside_> maybe?
[11:50] <craag> coming back in now
[11:50] <Darkside_> i see some faces i recognise
[11:52] <andycamb> Yes, talks and streaming have started again
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[11:55] <Darkside_> having mobile phone coverage is useful too
[11:55] <Darkside_> not always a thing over here..
[11:55] <Darkside_> (though is getting better)
[11:57] <PE2BZ> andycamb is it possible to have a short view of the audience ?
[11:57] <Upu> I'll ask
[11:57] <Darkside_> yess
[11:57] <Darkside_> wait what did he say?
[11:57] <Darkside_> somethign about antennas
[11:58] <Darkside_> (so much lag)
[11:58] <Upu> Dat lag
[11:58] <M0XIN> Darkside_: "magmounts are rubbish, but 1/4 wave works quite well"
[11:58] <Darkside_> yes there was something else there
[11:58] <Darkside_> but anyway
[11:58] <M0XIN> That it was your idea? :)
[11:59] <Darkside_> >_>
[11:59] <Darkside_> sure....
[11:59] <Darkside_> we use cross dipoles now
[11:59] <Darkside_> cue picture of tricked out landcruiser
[11:59] <Upu> Audience should come on there shortly
[12:00] <Darkside_> yeah we jsut saw it
[12:00] <Upu> Cool
[12:00] <Darkside_> i think we win in the chase car equipment category..
[12:00] <Darkside_> (maybe)
[12:00] <Darkside_> dave has more screens
[12:00] <Darkside_> :P
[12:01] <PE2BZ> He still needs a Tom Tom ;-)
[12:01] <pb0ahx> that wil not fit in my car :-((
[12:01] <PE2BZ> pb0ahx drive along the Mac Donalds and ask ¨supersize me¨ ;-)
[12:02] <pb0ahx> hihihihihi
[12:03] <pb0ahx> thare are no hills in holland
[12:03] <Darkside_> pb0ahx: we have that problem too
[12:07] <Darkside_> mmm you lucky people with right of way
[12:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
[12:19] <trickv> anyone at the conference know how to get on the wifi?
[12:21] <craag> trickv: If you can see 'PhilTether' passwd is '2003corsa'
[12:21] <M0XIN> trickv: A4 sheets on the reception desk (near the badges) with wifi access tickets on
[12:22] <craag> I'll be taking down the AP at the next break - so would be a good idea to grab an access ticket then ;)
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[12:23] <fsphil> ah, didn't know about the tickets
[12:24] <trickv> ah :) very kind craag. thanks both :)
[12:25] <amell> Do you need a code?
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[12:30] <trickv> no rush, ill grab one at the break
[12:31] <amell> I had a spare.
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[12:49] <x-f> (applause from me too)
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[12:51] <Darkside_> yo upu
[12:51] <Darkside_> i see you there
[12:51] <Darkside_> also dave
[12:51] <Darkside_> aww y u stop stream :(
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[12:52] <x-f> is it lunch time for an hour now?
[12:52] <Upu> Yo
[12:52] <Upu> Break
[12:52] <Upu> We had lunch
[12:54] <andycamb> Talks start again around 14:00
[12:56] <PE2BZ> thanks
[12:56] <PE2BZ> Very good stream and audio over here !
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[13:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0HIP-7 after 0313 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
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[13:16] <Darkside_> yay adamgreig !
[13:16] <fsphil> rockets!!
[13:16] <fsphil> that's a good photo
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[13:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0JWL-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0JWL-11
[13:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB-rs41 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-rs41
[13:22] <Darkside_> best to keep the camer aon the screen with adam's slide style
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[13:24] <Darkside_> how many engineers does it take to fix a VGA cable
[13:25] <Upu> :)
[13:25] <PE2BZ> Live debugging
[13:26] <number10> looks like el capitan
[13:26] <fsphil> and we're back
[13:27] <Darkside_> no launch video this way tho
[13:27] <PE2BZ> much better :-)
[13:30] <fsphil> it was not nominal
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[13:45] <Darkside_> hrm
[13:45] <Darkside_> anyone have a link to that kind of igniter?
[13:47] <Upu> Yeah Dave has one
[13:47] <daveake> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/291861240273?lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=1006598&poi=&campaignid=620865095&device=c&adgroupid=27378760866&rlsatarget=pla-181484317266&adtype=pla&crdt=0
[13:48] <daveake> ordered 25
[13:48] <Darkside_> crap
[13:48] <daveake> ?
[13:48] <Darkside_> anything with the word 'firework' in it is basically banned here
[13:48] <Darkside_> well, without a license
[13:48] <daveake> yeah
[13:48] <Darkside_> because bullshit reasons
[13:48] <daveake> Happy to send some
[13:48] <Darkside_> wont get through customs
[13:48] <fsphil> same for NI, though I think it's only for the actual fireworks
[13:48] <Darkside_> our customs are really good with this stuff
[13:49] <fsphil> everyone ignores that rules though
[13:49] <Darkside_> i'd just get a nastygram
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[13:51] <garymortimer> I guess everyone will be at the conference, I have forgotten how swap channel and get a flight approved, its been too long!
[13:51] <Darkside_> /join #habhub
[13:51] <Darkside_> im sure theres a few of us that can approve the flight
[13:51] <garymortimer> from here....
[13:52] <garymortimer> Cool thanks its a LoRa gig
[13:52] <Darkside_> oh hrm
[13:52] <Darkside_> not really sure how those work on habhub
[13:52] <Darkside_> im sure Upu or daveake or someone knows
[13:52] <daveake> not me I'm a minion
[13:52] <Darkside_> well i can approve them
[13:52] <daveake> Oh how they work ...
[13:52] <Darkside_> i just want advice from someone
[13:52] <Upu> I can approve from here
[13:52] <daveake> ... just do the telemetry bit not the radio bit
[13:53] <Darkside_> ok
[13:53] <Darkside_> Upu: handball to you then
[13:53] <Upu> Because irc cloud is awesome
[13:53] <daveake> So where it asks baud rate etc., don't bother with that page
[13:53] <Darkside_> pff
[13:53] <Darkside_> my irc cloud is irssi running on a server
[13:53] <daveake> We need a lora pqge
[13:54] <Darkside_> daveake: you could try mailing some :P
[13:55] <Darkside_> but im not sure it would get through
[13:55] <fsphil> hah, that igniter is already sold out
[13:55] <daveake> yeah np
[13:55] <daveake> lol
[13:55] <daveake> should have ordered more
[13:55] <fsphil> well the x25 one is
[13:56] <Darkside_> its annoying because i can buy pyrogen igniters locally
[13:56] <Darkside_> and they are basically high explosicce
[13:56] <Darkside_> explosive*
[13:57] <Darkside_> but importing that kind is pretty much not possible
[13:57] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RED-CARTRIDGES-SHOTS-FOR-HILTI-DX450-DX-450-PACK-100-/330399643517?hash=item4ced5a777d:g:HGgAAMXQgPhRlkWQ
[13:57] <SpeedEvil> (on the topic of unregulated explosive)
[13:57] <Darkside_> heh
[13:58] <SpeedEvil> (I was looking up plausibility for putting a nailgun on a quadcopter)
[13:58] <fsphil> as one does
[13:58] <SpeedEvil> I came to the conclusion that while possible, it was probably a bad idea
[13:59] <SpeedEvil> (to make 'perches)
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[14:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DART1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DART1
[14:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K4UAH-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K4UAH-12
[14:05] <garymortimer> @daveake remember that problem I was having seeing ports with the serial tracker.....
[14:05] <daveake> yes
[14:06] <garymortimer> A Friday night beer and lets try again
[14:06] <daveake> permissions?
[14:06] <garymortimer> Oh why don't I run it as an administrator
[14:06] <garymortimer> boom
[14:06] <daveake> yeah I did wonder :)
[14:07] <garymortimer> Well for dumb testing just run it past me!
[14:08] <daveake> I think it was AndyEsser who at the time asked if you could view that part of the registry manually
[14:08] <daveake> Didn't see a response
[14:22] <adamgreig> I recommend https://easypyro.com/talon-firework-igniter
[14:22] <adamgreig> These are just hot wire Darkside_
[14:23] <Darkside_> hrm
[14:23] <adamgreig> cheap and quick shipping
[14:23] <Darkside_> we already use hot wire..
[14:23] <Darkside_> not nichrome either
[14:23] <Darkside_> have some other stuff which is copper based, doesnt go brittle
[14:23] <Darkside_> still, they look nice
[14:23] <Darkside_> clip on is cool
[14:24] <daveake> That cutdown was a lot quicker than tests I've done with hot resistors
[14:24] <fsphil> whta voltage do these like?
[14:25] <daveake> They look easy to use and relatively robust compared to some wrapped nichrome
[14:25] <Darkside_> yes, robustness looks good
[14:25] <adamgreig> We're doing 8v fsphil
[14:25] <Darkside_> ah damn
[14:25] <adamgreig> but works off whatever really
[14:25] <Darkside_> means a boost converter
[14:25] <fsphil> little pp9 or something
[14:25] <fsphil> nice
[14:25] <daveake> yeah
[14:25] <PE2BZ> What´s the name of the current speaker ?
[14:25] <adamgreig> pretty sure it would be fine off 5 or less
[14:26] <daveake> 5 means 4 AAs should be fine
[14:26] <adamgreig> super easy to use as well
[14:26] <daveake> yeah I like that
[14:26] <fsphil> good pice too
[14:26] <daveake> good spot never seen them before
[14:26] <adamgreig> I've got a couple more with me if anyone wants to fiddle
[14:27] <fsphil> might actually use them for fireworks too
[14:27] <adamgreig> I bought a hundred to ignite fireworks
[14:27] <adamgreig> had them lying around the house while we were solving this problem, then realised it's perfect for habs
[14:27] <adamgreig> (I have serious fireworks parties)
[14:27] <Upu> Lol
[14:27] <Darkside_> might have to try them off 3v
[14:27] <Darkside_> like we currently use
[14:28] <daveake> That listing as 2x25 and 1x50 available now
[14:28] <Darkside_> i just drop 2x lithium AAs across about 5cm of eureka wire at the moment
[14:32] <PE2BZ> Is it planned to have the presentations available after the conference ?
[14:33] <Darkside_> right, gnight ll
[14:33] <Darkside_> all*
[14:33] <Darkside_> midnight here..
[14:33] <fsphil> nite!
[14:33] <PE2BZ> Goodnight !
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[14:36] <edmoore> Eta 4.45
[14:36] <edmoore> Straight to chu?
[14:37] <Upu> Suspect we'll still be here
[14:37] <fsphil> still some food left :)
[14:38] <andycamb> currently running 30 minutes late on the talks
[14:38] <number10> will there be a tracker on the balloon Upu ?
[14:39] <Upu> Hope so
[14:41] <edmoore> K will astro
[14:41] <Upu> If it launches still raining
[14:42] <fsphil> don't think that'll stop them
[14:42] <edmoore> Never stopped us b4
[14:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K8UAH-10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K8UAH-10
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[15:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD4BFP-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD4BFP-11
[15:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Kk4iaw_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Kk4iaw_chase
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[15:33] <garymortimer> I have purchased a Basset Breweries Pennington Pride Smoked British Porter to toast this afternoons launch http://craftbru.com/brewery/south-africa/basset-breweries/
[15:34] <garymortimer> This one in fact http://craftbru.com/shop/beers/basset-breweries-pennington-pride/
[15:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W1PCY_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W1PCY_chase
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[15:36] <garymortimer> loving solar tetrahedrons I have made a couple but not this big
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[15:45] <gurlavie> hi guys, anyone here with PI-IN-The-Sky experience ? tx
[15:50] <garymortimer> Quite a few, most folks are watching the conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsaAI_L8A1g
[15:50] <garymortimer> Including Dave Akcerman
[15:53] <gurlavie> Its now on, right. Mixed my hours. Tx !
[15:56] <PE2BZ> gurlavie ask your question. Be surprised about the knowledge and replies available :-)
[15:57] <gurlavie> TX ! a basic one, looking for the LOG on the RPI, while the tracker is running. my STDOUT is empty.
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[16:01] <PE2BZ> I have no idea. But what do you expect to see in STDOUT ?
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[16:04] <gurlavie> just want to see if everything works as expected, no errors etc. Monitoring basically
[16:05] <PE2BZ> For this moment I have 2 instances of tracker running on 2 pi´s and I trust on the output on the terminal.
[16:06] <gurlavie> I dont see anything on my terminal....
[16:06] <PE2BZ> Then you have a problem ;-)
[16:07] <PE2BZ> How do you start the tracker ?
[16:07] <PE2BZ> ( if door bell rings I am afk and back some time later )
[16:07] <gurlavie> I don't. As part of the install I believe it starts automatically
[16:07] <PE2BZ> Right... You are right :-)
[16:07] <gurlavie> Radio wise I think I see it.
[16:07] <PE2BZ> sudo killall tracker
[16:07] <PE2BZ> cd pits/tracker
[16:07] <PE2BZ> sudo ./tracker
[16:08] <gurlavie> One thing to mention, I am using PUTTY to remote connect to the PITS
[16:08] <PE2BZ> and there you have your output on the screen :-)
[16:08] <PE2BZ> I too :-)
[16:08] <gurlavie> and it doesn't start automatically with the PI reset ?
[16:08] <PE2BZ> Putty on a teamviewer controlled remote computer that is
[16:08] <PE2BZ> Yes it does
[16:09] <PE2BZ> you can chmod -x the tracker in / I forgot...
[16:09] <nick_> PE2BZ: what is teamviewer running on?
[16:09] <nick_> I hated when I had to use it.
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[16:10] <gurlavie> I just use bare PUTTY, no teamviewer
[16:12] <PE2BZ> putty is no problem. Did you try sudo killall tracker
[16:13] <gurlavie> PE2BZ - it worked like a charm
[16:13] <gurlavie> :) seeing the log now :)
[16:15] <PE2BZ> in /etc/init.d if I am right, there is also tracker which makes it autostart. If you sudo chmod -x that file it won´t start at boot
[16:17] <PE2BZ> nick I run teamviewer on anything. Windows 10 at work, Ipad at home, samsung on the way and linux at home. No problems whatever
[16:17] <gurlavie> so the autostart one, doesn't have a log file ?
[16:18] <PE2BZ> I am not sure. Perhaps only errors go somewhere and you had no errors ?
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[16:19] <gurlavie> not that I can see.
[16:19] <gurlavie> Thanks for the help ! I will track this down for the autostart.
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[16:23] <PE2BZ> [10:39] <daveake> e.g. remove the startup file; change the permissions so it's not executable; don't start it from /etc/init.d
[16:23] <PE2BZ> That´s how daveake explained it to me, I did the chmod -x for the tracker
[16:24] <PE2BZ> andycamb thanks for your work !
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[16:38] <amell> Is there any Lora on this Churchill launch?
[16:38] <amell> Indeed is it still happening? Just drizzle here. I have to go home
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[16:44] <tweetBot> @nerdsville: Off to watch a HAB launch.. #ukhas https://t.co/bVWLIUxjkO
[16:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03kd4bfp-chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=kd4bfp-chase
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[16:53] <Upu> Balloon going up shortly
[16:54] <Upu> 434.411
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[16:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03rs41 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=rs41
[16:59] <Upu> Balloon filled
[17:00] <Upu> Going up in 5
[17:00] <PE2BZ> Upu thanks for update. Is that for the rs41
[17:00] <mfa298> I'd guess also UKHAS which was juts approved
[17:01] <mfa298> although I think this is now into ISH time, the timetable says they should be in the pub now :)
[17:02] <Upu> Up
[17:04] <amell> That is not getting recovered!
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[17:09] <Andy-m> !dial rs41
[17:09] <SpacenearUS> 03Andy-m: Latest dials for 03RS41 with custom firmware 10(89aa): 03434.409961 MHz, 434.4101 MHz
[17:11] <Andy-m> Loud and clear on the 817, shame I don't have a cable to then plug it into my laptop
[17:12] <Andy-m> Have people decamped to the pub yet?
[17:12] <tweetBot> @arkorobotics: @matttaylr #ukhas does it right
[17:17] <pb0ahx> $$$$$$rs41,90,171646,52.29306,0.23570,3988,99,49,29,291,12,1b*9966
[17:17] <pb0ahx> red red
[17:18] <pb0ahx> and now green
[17:19] <x-f> but you're 40 km from the blue line!
[17:19] <pb0ahx> x-f, yes i am sorry but he is writing good now
[17:20] <x-f> :)
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[17:37] <edmoore> Upstairs at the castle pub, for anyone who's lost
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[17:38] <jcoxon> We are in the pub upstairs
[17:38] <jcoxon> The castle that is
[17:39] <PE2BZ> scotty, beam me up...
[17:39] <Andy-m> Just dropped my stuff at the hotel. Now to decide whether to walk or be lazy and get a taxi
[17:39] <PE2BZ> Get a taxi. How would you get back to the hotel ?
[17:40] <Andy-m> Eh?
[17:40] <Andy-m> I can get a taxi at the end of the night
[17:40] <Andy-m> It's only 0.8 miles apparently. But it is raining
[17:41] <PE2BZ> That´ s true :-)
[17:41] <Andy-m> edmoore: presume this is the Castle on Castle Street?
[17:45] <PE2BZ> amell It will end up at Terschelling....
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[17:47] <PE2BZ> amell It will end up at Terschelling....
[17:47] <amell> PE2BZ: where is that?!?
[17:49] <PE2BZ> amell it´s the third Island at the top of the Netherlands. One sonde ended up there in 2015 (eggsplorer) and one (from craag) ended up there in 2016
[17:49] <PE2BZ> https://www.google.nl/maps/place/Terschelling/@53.2678577,5.2803845,10.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x47c926ad2422b941:0x6b577dbbeaff1c20!8m2!3d53.3978747!4d5.3466786?hl=en
[17:49] <edmoore> Andy-m: yes
[17:50] <Andy-m> Walking up now
[17:50] <amell> PE2BZ: you'll be lucky. Looks like a wet landing to me
[17:50] <PE2BZ> http://nerdsville.blogspot.nl/2015/08/madhen-eggsplorer-1-found.html
[17:52] <PE2BZ> It will be a wet landing. But it will float to Terschelling ;-)
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[17:54] <amell> PE2BZ: we can hope. No smelly egg this time
[17:54] <PE2BZ> :-)
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[18:03] <garymortimer> Have a great time in the pub all
[18:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[18:08] <DutchMillbt> Good evening all...PE2BZ -> #habnl
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[18:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-1 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
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[18:15] <gonzo_> is the rs41 sonde still txing?
[18:19] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes
[18:19] <SA6BSS-Mike> listening on suws web sdr
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[18:28] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi
[18:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> !dial rs41
[18:29] <SpacenearUS> 03OZ1SKY_Brian: Latest dials for 03RS41 with custom firmware 10(89aa): 03434.41 MHz, 434.40948 MHz, 434.409983 MHz, 434.4101 MHz
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[18:34] <PE2BZ> Anyone knows which type of parachute is attached to the RS41 ?
[18:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> recovered wx sonde one
[18:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> extremly oversized tom sais
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[18:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KK4IAW-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK4IAW-1
[18:37] <PE2BZ> Someone is curious if it´s a PC110
[18:38] <SA6BSS-Mike> pc110?
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[18:38] <SA6BSS-Mike> found it
[18:40] <PE2BZ> It was not my question ;-)
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[18:45] <Guest_84848> allah is doing
[18:46] <Guest_84848> sun is not doing allah is doing
[18:46] <Guest_84848> moon is not doing allah is doing
[18:46] <Guest_84848> stars are not doing allah is doing
[18:46] <Guest_84848> planets are not doing allah is doing
[18:46] <Steffanx> lol
[18:46] <Guest_84848> galaxies are not doing allah is doing
[18:46] <amell> Mod?
[18:46] <jakeio> Oh, not this again.
[18:46] <Guest_84848> oceans are not doing allah is doing
[18:46] <jakeio> ping edmoore, Upu, etc.
[18:46] <amell> Guest_84848: allah can do one
[18:47] <PE2BZ> Please don´t feed the trolls
[18:47] <jakeio> This is the third time I've seen this bot on this channel...
[18:47] <amell> I don't understand the purpose of it
[18:47] <jakeio> Spam?
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[18:47] <amell> To what end though?
[18:48] <jakeio> Who knows... It doesn't even make grammatical sense.
[18:48] <mfa298> probably someones poor attempt at evangalism or something
[18:48] <amell> Anyway. Any idea what burst alt might be? I didn't see the balloon
[18:49] <PE2BZ> at least 23854 m :-)
[18:50] <daveake> Allah is not doing Mod is doing
[18:50] <PE2BZ> lol ..
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[18:55] <gurlavie> PE2BZ, are you using an SDR to recieve your PITS ?
[18:56] <amell> Looks like rs41 hit a boundary layer
[18:56] <PE2BZ> gurlavie For SSDV decoding ? No, I use a PI with 2 modules. I can receive the PITS with my SDR but it has no software to decode it
[18:57] <PE2BZ> amell what is a boundary layer ?
[18:57] <amell> Where the wind at different altitudes mix - see rs41 going round in circle
[18:57] <gurlavie> Which software do you use for the SSDV decoding ?
[18:57] <gurlavie> What do you use as a reciever ?
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[19:01] <PE2BZ> amell thanks !
[19:03] <OZ1SKY_Brian> thats a good tx/ant onboard rs41, first green at -0,7deg
[19:04] <PE2BZ> OZ1SKY_Brian nice !
[19:04] <PE2BZ> pb0ahx had it 40 km before the blue line hit him. What´s your distance to the blue line now ?
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[19:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 79km ca
[19:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> burst :-(
[19:07] <PE2BZ> Burst at 28176 m
[19:07] <PE2BZ> 79 km ? that has to be a good beam :-)
[19:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> no just the old comet gp9n
[19:08] <PE2BZ> at 400 meter ;-) ?
[19:08] <PE2BZ> Great signal !
[19:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> remember Denmark is as flat as a pancake :-)
[19:10] Action: PE2BZ is a bit ashamed. Denmark has no mountains... Should have paid attention 40 years ago ;-)
[19:10] <OZ1SKY_Brian> we got a 173m hill :-)
[19:11] <PE2BZ> Even we in Holland have a higher hill :-) Amstelberg :-)
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[19:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> I know it, oh wait or is it the beer :-)
[19:12] <PE2BZ> It´s the Amstel (beer) gold race from the Cauberg ;-)
[19:13] <OZ1SKY_Brian> thats it :-)
[19:13] <PE2BZ> But say bye bye to the rs41 before its gone ;-)
[19:30] <amell> Nice sonde, wonder how much they cost new
[19:31] <M0XIN> Damn, rs41 a little too weak for me to receive
[19:32] <M0XIN> I can see it on the waterfall faintly though
[19:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> with rs41 gone, its back to testing HF. Finaly got my wire tuned after beeing lazy for 2 years or so :-)
[19:37] <PE2BZ> amell about 600 Euro !
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[19:46] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8ELK-1 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
[19:49] <pb0ahx> RS41 Team mni tnx was a nice flight for me tnx
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[20:25] <fsphil> ah, swimming with the fishies
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[20:40] <daveake> Fetchez le bateau chase
[20:42] <fsphil> payload de la mer
[20:48] <mfa298> if only someone had talked abotu how to recover payloads earlier :p
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[20:50] <fsphil> we need someone to make some kind of predictor
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[20:58] <cm13g09> mfa298: ping
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[23:14] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[23:58] <Laurenceb__> hi folks
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[23:58] <Laurenceb__> back from Conference, it was really good this year :D
[23:58] <Laurenceb__> congrats to all organisers :D
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