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[07:59] <steve> re HERMES1 GPS: the lat/long coordinates also remained constant at the last posn before it went above 10000. I'll ask Robert about testing parsing the extra altitudude extra digit and the P/N of the GPS (it was Adafruit)
[08:01] <daveake> Yeah could be the GPS or the parsing. A quick test with a sample NMEA string at >=10000 should show which.
[08:02] <daveake> That model of GPS has been flown successfully much higher, but it's entirely possible that yours had different firmware
[08:04] <daveake> UBlox models are known to work at all HAB altitudes - manufacturer says 50km which is higher than we can get (max so far is 45km), provided those are put into flight mode
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[08:13] <steve> I recall he was using the Adafruit library as is for the Arduino - (so his parsing was just sprintf GPS.altitude ..) Do you know if that library is also known to work / or any special high altitude mode needed to be set?
[08:14] <daveake> Nothing special as far as I know. Upu may know as he flew one for Adafruit.
[08:14] <Upu> hey Steve
[08:14] <Upu> Adafruit module even the early ones should go over 10km
[08:14] <daveake> Sounds like something to take up with (i.e. complain to) Adafruit
[08:14] <Upu> but use Ublox next time :)
[08:15] <daveake> and then tell them that next time you're buying from Uputronics :)
[08:15] <Upu> you got it back ?
[08:15] <steve> yes we got it all back - it started working again <10000 - and the box also had a cell phone which SMS'd its posn from the ground
[08:16] <Upu> cool send it to me and I'll send you a Ublox one FoC
[08:16] <Upu> then I'll stick on the GPS Sim and see what it does
[08:17] <steve> ok - thanks - will do - can you send your contact details to me please (hab at oxford-pope.com)
[08:19] <Upu> done
[08:19] <Upu> back shortly
[08:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03CADICA after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CADICA
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[08:56] <edmoore> adamgreig: iain is 30 today
[08:56] <edmoore> 30!
[08:56] <edmoore> that must make cusf really old
[08:56] <edmoore> he has chosen to be serenaded into work with the torreador song from carmen, because he is now a grownup
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[09:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP9UOB-BIN - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-BIN
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[09:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EA3FCA-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EA3FCA-11
[09:24] <Laurenceb__> @ashwin7002:
[09:24] <Laurenceb__> there are some videos on YouTube claiming something hit the rocket. Any reality there?
[09:24] <Laurenceb__> @elonmusk:
[09:24] <Laurenceb__> We have not ruled that out.
[09:24] <Laurenceb__> wtf is going on
[09:24] <Laurenceb__> Putin and Trump shooting things with missiles?
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[10:01] <SpeedEvil> Wierd.
[10:02] <Laurenceb__> apparently the remote video is proving useful too
[10:02] <SpeedEvil> Spray of high velocity kerosene droplets out of an entry hole.
[10:02] <Laurenceb__> mystery deepens
[10:02] <SpeedEvil> Alligator with a Barrett
[10:03] <Laurenceb__> http://imgur.com/a/REb81 and these noises from the video are believed to be real
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[10:09] <SpeedEvil> I question if the labelled 'deflagration is a deflagration' - it's too fast
[10:10] <Laurenceb__> yeah
[10:11] <SpeedEvil> 'higher frequency click sound' seems dubious.
[10:12] <SpeedEvil> It has energy in HF comparable to, or perhaps louder than (in the frequency which it occurs) than the initial detonation.
[10:12] <Laurenceb__> yup
[10:12] <gonzo_> deflagration...To lose ones flag?
[10:13] <SpeedEvil> gonzo_: very fast.
[10:13] <SpeedEvil> The only thing I can think of which would plausibly make such a loud high frequency sound is a supersonic small projectile.
[10:14] <Laurenceb__> uh oh
[10:14] <Laurenceb__> lol
[10:15] <Laurenceb__> I refuse to believe the FSB would actually be that crazy
[10:19] <SpeedEvil> I wonder how many cameras they had pointed at it
[10:27] <gonzo_> some internal component broke lose/blow out?
[10:31] <SpeedEvil> Problem with that is it's quite low pressure generally, and any failure of the high pressure stuff would have been glaringly obvious in the telemetry
[10:32] <craag> Could have just been a redneck with a rifle
[10:34] <gonzo_> the exclusion zone aroudn the pad I assume is quier extensive
[10:34] <gonzo_> would bbe a hell of a shot
[10:36] <craag> doubt it'd be too difficult to sneak in though
[10:39] <russss> I thought that noise was odd
[10:39] <gonzo_> wsithout being eaten?!
[10:39] <gonzo_> no speakers on this pc
[10:40] <russss> the thing with Elon tweeting that email address
[10:40] <russss> is that they're now going to get thousands of nutters emailing them with their favourite conspiracy theory
[10:42] <russss> I like the way that spectrogram has "birds" in quotes
[10:42] <russss> these so-called "birds" are outside of the scope of this engineering investigation.
[10:42] <russss> *or are they*....
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[11:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KEMPSP_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KEMPSP_chase
[11:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[11:21] <adamgreig> edmoore: 30! goodness
[11:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DL0PTB-11 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL0PTB-11
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[12:10] <AndyEsser> Well... I'm still alive
[12:10] <AndyEsser> I didn't crash :)
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[12:12] <craag> Darn, guess I'll have to give you your travel mug back then.
[12:12] <AndyEsser> edmoore: aren't you 30?
[12:12] <AndyEsser> craag: haha, I'd forgotten about that
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[13:19] <ZS5LT> any ideas for anti rotation on hab payloads
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[13:44] <edmoore> AndyEsser: no
[13:44] <edmoore> <
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[15:19] <BubUK> greetings from up North
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[15:24] <Andy-m> Afnoon
[15:24] <Andy-m> "slightly" delayed so won't be in Cambridge probably until midnight, so won't be doing any socialising this evening :(
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[15:35] <BubUK> at least you don't have to get up at 5am to get there in the morning!
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[15:39] <gonzo_> ugh, don't remind me
[15:40] <gonzo_> had to cut the antenna off the car, so it will be a very boring drive there and back
[15:41] <edmoore> why?
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[15:42] <gonzo_> some major surgery to replace the inner wing
[15:43] <gonzo_> though I have su much unused data on the phone, could just stream R4 that way
[15:43] <gonzo_> but the eng in me can't be so wasteful of bandwidth, even though I've paid for it
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[16:02] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> Ah well I won't keep a
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[16:03] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> keep a lookout for you then, says Geoff sat in the Arundel House hotel!
[16:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0UPU_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0UPU_chase
[16:09] <Upu> should be there after 9 if anyone is at the bar
[16:11] <SpeedEvil> http://uk.businessinsider.com/the-worlds-first-edible-drone-2016-9?r=US&IR=T Laurenceb
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[16:14] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> Might well be there then You!
[16:14] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> Eh you can tell I'm on the tablet Upu
[16:15] <Upu> :)
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[16:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DO2EIM-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO2EIM-1
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[16:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NLS1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NLS1
[16:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WLN2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WLN2
[16:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DC2EH-14 after 0322 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-14
[16:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DRK3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DRK3
[16:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MLB4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MLB4
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[16:58] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> Right daveakeman, Sven, Phil and Ian are here
[16:59] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser did your coffee stay in ?
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[17:17] Action: Andy-m still hasn't left....
[17:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Soton_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Soton_chase
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[17:35] <Andy-m> PE2BZ: didn't take the coffee in the plane. Otherwise it would've when we were doing stall maneuvers
[17:36] <PE2BZ> Glad to hear all went ok. Good luck with your exam tomorrow !
[17:36] <Andy-m> Thanks. Need to get to Cambridge first...
[17:37] <PE2BZ> to the airport ;-)
[17:42] <daveake> Anyone else in camb yet?
[17:42] <daveake> Getting ourselves printed for beer
[17:42] <daveake> Er food
[17:42] <daveake> Yes food
[17:43] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> 5 of us so far!
[17:43] <PE2BZ> Enjoy !
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[17:45] <daveake> Well unless anyone else offers an opinion, well go and find somewhere to eat and drink
[17:53] <adamgreig> daveake: I think craag and mattbrejza and matt are arriving soonish but not sure what their plans are
[17:53] <daveake> ok ta
[17:54] <adamgreig> I'm in town (obviously) but waiting on them to arrive, so maybe we can all meet up later
[17:54] <mattbrejza> see siton_chase for progress
[17:54] <adamgreig> eta?
[17:54] <mattbrejza> 55mib
[17:54] <daveake> Just having a shower then we're leaving about 7:15
[17:54] <adamgreig> more eta is good because I'm still tidying the living room enough for you to have somewhere to sleep lol
[17:54] <daveake> hah
[17:55] <adamgreig> soton chase hasn't updated since 1837 mattbrejza
[17:55] <mattbrejza> well 54min eta...
[17:55] <adamgreig> ok
[17:55] <daveake> I had a tracker running all the way here. However I forgot to give it any wifi to connect to :/
[17:57] <mattbrejza> chase should be updating
[17:57] <adamgreig> yep
[17:58] <edmoore> i'm fighting airmiles
[17:58] <edmoore> happy friday
[17:58] <edmoore> daveake: where are you staying?
[17:59] <adamgreig> i gave up on fighting airmiles after BA lost my return trip to india
[18:03] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> Were at Arundel House edmoore
[18:04] <daveake> that ^. sry was afk
[18:04] <daveake> few of us here .. Geoff, fsphi;l
[18:04] <daveake> Ian the bee man
[18:04] <daveake> Sven
[18:05] <daveake> Anthony and Rob get here later
[18:06] <edmoore> i know it
[18:06] <edmoore> there are a few spoonsey pub east of you
[18:06] <edmoore> but probably better bet to go into town to magdalen street
[18:06] <edmoore> The Mitre is a nice pub
[18:06] <adamgreig> no spoons there any more edmoore
[18:06] <daveake> cheers, yeah we're planning on going towards town
[18:07] <adamgreig> assuming you're thinking the tivoli
[18:07] <edmoore> the boathouse adamgreig?
[18:07] <edmoore> oh did it fire?
[18:07] <edmoore> the pickerel is good too daveake
[18:07] <edmoore> if it's still there :)
[18:07] <adamgreig> yea tivoli is still shut after fire last year
[18:07] <edmoore> i reckon the pickerel would be a good place to start a wander
[18:08] <adamgreig> yea agreed. unless you started a bit further up at castle and went down via pickeral into town
[18:08] <edmoore> tho might be fun to save castle for tomorrow
[18:08] <adamgreig> true
[18:08] <edmoore> if that ends up being a concencus-driven destination
[18:09] <daveake> cool mitre or pickerel both pretty close
[18:11] <edmoore> and then further into town the Pint Shop but friday night could be optimistic to get everyone in
[18:11] <adamgreig> grain store is bigger and good too
[18:12] <AndyEsser> fsphil: that car charger for the ft817 works perfectly :)
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[18:13] <edmoore> i've never been to the grain store
[18:13] <edmoore> looks nice!
[18:15] <edmoore> i have to say tho that the battered pork belly strips at the Pint Shop are about the best bar snack i've veer had in my life ever so far ever
[18:16] <Andy-m> +1 for Pint Shop
[18:21] <mattbrejza> 19min adam eta
[18:23] <AndyEsser> right, finally leaving my house now - so shall forego any sort of socialising this evening, shall just diligently read my Foundation License book
[18:23] <AndyEsser> See some of you tomorrow morning
[18:24] <AndyEsser> craag: radio is all packed and charged
[18:24] <fsphil> o/
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[18:26] <edmoore> i suspect having a drink with the hams will be better prep AndyEsser
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[18:27] <edmoore> they can fling q's at you
[18:27] <edmoore> i think i actually used my license and callsign in anger last year at one point
[18:27] <edmoore> and that was to act as an examiner for the license exams at the conf
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[18:45] <adamgreig> ping daveake Geoff-G8DHE-Tab etc, are you guys eating yet?
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[18:55] <daveake> Just now sat siren and ordered in The Mitre
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[18:56] <daveake> Been here before, I remember
[18:56] <daveake> Sat down ^
[18:56] <mobilecraag> Walking in to cambs, I guess people have already eaten?
[18:57] <daveake> No just ordered in the mitre mobilecraag
[18:57] Nick change: _Matthias -> Matthias
[18:59] <mobilecraag> OK, we're stopping by CUED first, will be there in a bit
[19:00] <daveake> Cool see you later. We have a table at the back.
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[19:19] <tweetBot> @daveake: Our #ukhas contingent about to be fed. Bacon included. https://t.co/Kt9EIvFqJw
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[19:39] <Vaizki> have fun guys, maybe next year for me
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[21:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ANDYJ - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ANDYJ
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[22:15] <AndyEsser> who is the muppet that didn't bring the power cable for his Surface
[22:15] Action: AndyEsser points at himself
[22:15] <AndyEsser> edmoore: that may be so, but since I've only just gotten to Cambridge and checked in, I suspect it's a bit late
[22:28] <AndyEsser> craag: do you need anything other than the ft817, mains PSU, mic + stubby antenna?
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[22:46] <craag> AndyEsser nope
[22:46] <craag> that sounds good :)
[22:47] <AndyEsser> cool
[22:47] <AndyEsser> see you tomorrow then
[22:48] <craag> :)
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[23:06] <daveake> AndyEsser: Is that the same muppet who wasted his money on a Surface ? :)
[23:11] <fsphil> burn
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[23:16] <fsphil> there's a spider in my room. it's just sitting on the roof over the bed. the total git.
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[23:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[23:52] <tweetBot> @philcrump2: Shiny rocket parts! #ukhas #UkhasConf2016Teaser https://t.co/IsQTPVSMU3
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