highaltitude.log.20160908

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[00:55] <Mack> kc2pit: Not yet, I was working on it then had to go chase hurricanes for the past few weeks
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[04:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UBSEDS18 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS18
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[05:30] <Vaizki> morning UBSEDS18!
[05:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> looks like it have slowed down a bit, jst 15m/s it have ben going over 45m/s for the last week
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[07:16] <Rebounder> morrn
[07:17] <fsphil> happy thursday
[07:17] <Rebounder> morrn.)
[07:17] <Rebounder> yes
[07:22] <gonzo_> is F1TUV on 434 or arps?
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[07:26] <fsphil> tracker says last heard 14 hours ago via aprs
[07:28] <lz1dev> .dial F1TUV
[07:28] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[07:28] <lz1dev> .dial F1TUV-11
[07:28] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[07:29] <lz1dev> .dial F1TUV-XY
[07:29] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03F1TUV-XY is over APRS. 144.8Mhz EU/Russia/Africa, 144.39Mhz USA, 144.64Mhz China
[07:29] <lz1dev> \o/
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[08:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03358899056455879_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=358899056455879_chase
[08:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 037079612613_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=7079612613_chase
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[08:34] <AndyEsser> morning lovelies
[08:35] Action: PE2BZ thinks AndyEsser talks to mirror
[08:36] <gonzo_> nothing lovely lasy time I looked in a mirror
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[08:44] <AndyEsser> gonzo_: aww, don't say that
[08:46] <gonzo_> mmmm, cake call. Chose a huge cookie, which I know will be good
[08:46] <fsphil> can't beat a good cookie
[08:46] <gonzo_> the paper towel has grease marks from just having the thing sat on it for a minute
[08:46] <gonzo_> you can phil. It's just goes everywhere
[08:47] <PE2BZ> lol
[08:47] <fsphil> higher surface area. makes it taste better
[08:49] <gonzo_> only down side, it's too soft to dunk
[08:50] <gonzo_> hmmm, dewalt are doing 54V battery power tools. Sounds fun
[08:50] <gonzo_> and verty off topic
[08:51] <fsphil> powah
[08:51] <fsphil> I was looking at things on ebay last night that can generate 400kv
[08:52] <gonzo_> for any reason, or you just put 400kV in the search
[08:53] <fsphil> just happen to see them i a youtube vid
[08:54] <fsphil> it was what they used to light the gas in emf's fire pong
[08:54] <fsphil> 5v in, really high voltage out to make a spark
[08:54] <PE2BZ> fsphil why would you need 400kV ? Just curious...
[08:54] <gonzo_> ah. I thought they were oil fired boiler igniters?
[08:55] <gonzo_> are you about to play with fire?
[08:55] <gonzo_> suspect that you could control low pressure gas woth pneumatic solenioid valves
[08:57] <gonzo_> never really played with low pressure stuff. Most of my lpg dealings have been liquid transfer
[08:59] <gonzo_> ebay sees a spike in searches for "400kV"
[09:00] <gonzo_> I really doubt those things are 400kv, possibly 2-3kv max
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[09:10] <AndyEsser> weather isn't looking good for tomorrow :(
[09:16] <fsphil> yeah, though I have nothing to measure that high a voltage
[09:16] <fsphil> no fire, just want to make some sparks :)
[09:17] <fsphil> AndyEsser: yeah, looking rather gusty
[09:17] <fsphil> have a light breakfast :)
[09:24] <AndyEsser> haha
[09:24] <AndyEsser> I don't have breakfast usually anyway
[09:24] <AndyEsser> it'll just be lots of coffee that comes back up :P
[09:39] <fsphil> just don't do it out the window
[09:47] <gonzo_> if you do, remember to call the people below, so they are looking up
[09:48] <AndyEsser> lol
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[11:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[11:16] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRX6Hk_eAK0 - india launch in ~4 min.
[11:16] <SpeedEvil> indian, not india
[11:18] <PE2BZ> thanks
[11:20] <SpeedEvil> Liquid boosters, solid core first stage
[11:21] <russss> curious way of doing things
[11:24] <mfa298> random unrelated news for today 10M Pis have been sold!
[11:24] <mfa298> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/ten-millionth-raspberry-pi-new-kit/
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[11:26] Action: SpeedEvil sighs at shit.
[11:27] <SpeedEvil> Imagine how much more awesome that could have been if they were pushing hardware agnostic solutions
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[11:31] <russss> I'm enjoying the low-budget telemetry displays
[11:31] <russss> did they make them in visual basic
[11:32] <russss> hard not to make indian IT outsourcing jokes here, but they seem to be quite good at launching rockets.
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[11:36] <SpeedEvil> ESA may have better displays from a technical POV
[11:36] <SpeedEvil> they don't actually work though as means of conveying info
[11:36] <russss> true
[11:36] <SpeedEvil> just subcontract with KSP to provide graphics
[11:36] <russss> the graphs are good, it's just the hilarious windows toolbar cruft at the top
[11:37] <SpeedEvil> remote KSP, so anyone can get the feed, and look at it as they like
[11:37] <russss> did you see that NASA/JPL have open sourced their next generation telemetry visualisation stuff? https://nasa.github.io/openmct/
[11:37] <fsphil> this looks like it's recorded on vhs
[11:37] <SpeedEvil> no
[11:37] <SpeedEvil> fsphil: yeah
[11:38] <russss> it's quite interesting, not terribly simple to add data sources to though
[11:38] <russss> node.js, naturally...
[11:38] <russss> https://openmct-demo.herokuapp.com/
[11:42] <fsphil> just re-watching the launch. an awful lot of "stuff" fell of the rocket as it lifted off
[11:43] <russss> confetti
[11:44] <fsphil> hah
[11:44] <fsphil> their launch tower is quite imposing
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[11:51] <SpeedEvil> It is actually not a launch tower. It's a 20 story tower block.
[11:51] <SpeedEvil> There are little peep-holes on the launcher side, so you get most excellent views.
[11:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-11 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-11
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[12:48] <PE2BZ> daveake small question about the RFM module for LoRa: You do write the settings on SPI (NSS, SCK, MOSI and MISO) and read the data from DIO0 and DIO5 right ?
[12:48] <daveake> no
[12:48] <PE2BZ> Good afternoon :-)
[12:48] <daveake> DIO0 is for "packet received" or "packet sent"
[12:49] <daveake> DIO5 is for "mode changed"
[12:49] <daveake> everything else is SPI
[12:49] <daveake> As I shall explain in my talk on Saturday :)
[12:50] <PE2BZ> Thanks. I try to debug why I have built 2 windows trackers which both output no data (nor RSSI)
[12:50] <PE2BZ> following your excellent webpage :-)
[12:51] <PE2BZ> When starting the software the RX led on the FTDI blinks regulary, and when I ¨SET¨ things the TX blinks, but I get no output at all on the software
[12:52] <PE2BZ> I will playback your speech on sunday ;-)
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[13:20] <fsphil> daveake: got it written yet? :)
[13:20] <daveake> Actually, yes :)
[13:49] <PE2BZ> daveake I guess you assume the Arduino Mini Pro running on 16 MHz ? With the settings for 3.3 V I had it set for 8 MHz AT328 but now I used the 5V /16 MHz AT328 setting and suddeny an RSSI and freq error appears on my (your) screen.
[13:49] <daveake> No
[13:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HIRF-5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-5
[13:50] <fsphil> no assuming needed when you have F_CPU
[13:50] <daveake> All mine are 8MHz and the code make no such assumption
[13:51] <PE2BZ> Then I assume that my chinese arduino is bugging me :-)
[13:52] <daveake> Well you need to set the correct speed In the IDE to match the hardware
[13:55] <PE2BZ> With 5 V / 16 MHz I get RSSI output at 9600 baud (on your software and Putty). No strings, but that´s the next step. But if I use 3.3 V / 8 MHz I get ascii on putty, and if I set Putty at 19200 baud I get the same RSSI output.
[13:58] <PE2BZ> LoRa USB Receiver V1.0
[13:58] <PE2BZ> FrequencyValue is 7114752
[13:58] <PE2BZ> Setup Complete
[13:58] <PE2BZ> CurrentRSSI=-95
[13:58] <PE2BZ> CurrentRSSI=-87
[14:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HIRFW-5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-5
[14:12] <daveake> Yes because the device is running at 16MHz
[14:14] Action: PE2BZ is confused
[14:16] <PE2BZ> If I program it at 8 MHz / 3.3 Volt and it runs on 3.3 Volt how do I get it to run at 8 MHz and not 16 MHz ? It makes sense that when running at 16 MHz instead of 8 MHz the data comes out twice the speed.
[14:16] <adamgreig> the run speed is determined by the crystal on the PCB, you don't get to change it
[14:16] <adamgreig> (well, I think maybe there's a fuse you can set for a clock divider?)
[14:16] <adamgreig> (but in general it's fixed)
[14:16] <adamgreig> and you're not meant to do 16MHz on 3v3
[14:19] <PE2BZ> adamgreig thanks for your input. The info on https://www.arduino.cc/en/Products/Compare shows the Pro Mini has CPU speed 8 or 16 MHz so I thought it would run @ 8MHz on 3.3 V and @16 MHz on 5 Volt.
[14:19] <adamgreig> I think you buy them either at 8MHz or 16MHz
[14:21] <PE2BZ> You are right :-(
[14:21] <PE2BZ> Pro Mini Enhancement 3.3V or 5V adjustable 16MHz MEGA328P is what I have bought.
[14:22] <PE2BZ> But it makes it very clear why I built 2 pieces and they both act exactly the same...
[14:23] <PE2BZ> afk for a while
[14:28] <mfa298> I think the only divider you can set is clkdiv8 which will make your 16MHz run at 2MHz
[14:28] <mfa298> which might lead to issues at some serial speeds
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[15:06] <WillDuckworth> what's the taxi fare so far daveake?
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[15:18] <daveake> Came to £120 :/
[15:18] <adamgreig> wow!
[15:18] <adamgreig> too urgent to wait for trains to resume?
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[15:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
[15:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ac_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ac_chase
[15:28] <WillDuckworth> I think the pi by the Thames bash was quite urgent
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[16:04] <daveake> Yeah the alternative was the site train to Waterloo. Or go home.
[16:05] <daveake> Slow
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[17:14] <steve> Thanks everyone who helped with the HERMES1 flight. We recovered the box and got some great photos. Only glitch was the capped GPS (manufacturer data said it wasn't!). Robert is going along to the conference at the weekend
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[17:23] <PE2BZ> steve congratulations with the recovery !
[17:24] Nick change: iNeo -> PE0SAT
[17:24] <steve> perfect - was laying in the grass - no tree climbing required!
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[17:36] <SpeedEvil> steve: :)
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[18:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W7QO - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W7QO
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[18:41] <daveake> Well, recovering from trees will be one of the topics at the conf :)
[18:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Akpabio _chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Akpabio%20_chase
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[19:25] <tweetBot> @AmsatUK: Balloon UHF/VHF FM Transponder Launch 1100 GMT Sunday, September 11 https://t.co/EtMpfUEOZo #amsat #hamradio #hamr #ukhas
[19:25] <Upu> what GPS was it steve ?
[19:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> think they said it was adafruit ultimate gps
[19:27] <Upu> what did it cap out at ?
[19:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> 10000m
[19:27] <Upu> really ?
[19:27] <Upu> this is interesting
[19:27] <Upu> should be 39km
[19:27] <tweetBot> @AmsatUK: Balloon launch UHF/VHF FM Transponder + ATV 1100 GMT Sunday, September 11 https://t.co/EtMpfUEOZo #amsat #hamradio #hamr #ukhas @BATCOnline
[19:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> yeah, 9870m or so. but a 5m/s it probably over 10000 next read
[19:27] <daveake> Weren't there other GPS issues on that flight?
[19:28] <daveake> Possible it was the parsing when it saw 5 digits, rather than the GPS itself at 10km
[19:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> adafruit said thay tested at 27000m
[19:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> thats the theory
[19:28] <Upu> yeah the old ones capped at 27km
[19:28] <Upu> the new ones should be 39km
[19:28] <Upu> I tested one for them
[19:28] <Upu> went to 39km
[19:29] <SA6BSS-Mike> oh, cool
[19:29] <Upu> but then I put it in the english channel where it belongs
[19:29] <Upu> all hail our ublox overlords
[19:29] <SA6BSS-Mike> :)
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[19:42] <tweetBot> @John_Northants: @F4ECA https://t.co/pJwNP8rAmo
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[19:49] <SP9UOB-Tom> evening all
[19:50] <SP9UOB-Tom> is there any D-Star repeater in cambridge ?
[19:52] <dbrooke> nearest is http://www.cambridgerepeaters.net/repeaters/gb7pi/
[19:52] <dbrooke> it's south of Cambridge but fairly high up
[19:54] <SP9UOB-Tom> dbrooke: thanks.
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[21:16] <russss> STEREO-B successfully de-spun yesterday http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/new.shtml
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[21:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CADICA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CADICA
[21:29] <fsphil> good news
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[22:59] <russss> Atlas launch in 5mins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDh4uK9PvJU
[23:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[23:09] <mattbrejza> huh, only one solid booster
[23:10] <lz1dev> see you in 2 years
[23:11] <russss> yeah looks quite weird flying with just the one booster
[23:11] <russss> but they only needed one
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[23:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03MAVIS_1 after 038 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MAVIS_1
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