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[00:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7
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[00:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7_LORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7_LORA
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[00:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7_LORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7_LORA
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[00:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7_LORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7_LORA
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[01:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7_LORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7_LORA
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[02:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
[02:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7_LORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7_LORA
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[03:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7_LORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7_LORA
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[03:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7_LORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7_LORA
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[04:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7_LORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7_LORA
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[05:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7_LORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7_LORA
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[05:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7_LORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7_LORA
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[05:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7_LORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7_LORA
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[06:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7_LORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7_LORA
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[06:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7_LORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7_LORA
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[06:33] <fsphil> all new
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[06:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M0SBU-10 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0SBU-10
[06:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UBSEDS20 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS20
[06:59] <daveake> actually new
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[07:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IK8SUT-11 after 0320 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IK8SUT-11
[07:10] <richardeoin> nice, pi and sd card are still going
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[08:00] <jakeio> Wish me luck, calling the CAA now to beg for an extended window!
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[08:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
[08:16] <jakeio> He said yes!
[08:17] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Right so when is likely ? What is the prediction like ?
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[08:20] <jakeio> Just running that now.
[08:21] <jakeio> Last time I checked Saturday looked better than Sunday.
[08:21] <jakeio> Yes.
[08:21] <jakeio> Saturday is better...
[08:21] <jakeio> Sunday = English Channel wet landing.
[08:22] <daveake> My hourly should give you an idea http://predict.habhub.org/hourly/oldgore/
[08:23] <jakeio> Peterborough.
[08:24] <jakeio> That's not too bad really. Let's see, 3 hour drive. Hmm. I'd have to leave immediately after launch...
[08:25] <daveake> If not before
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[08:27] <jakeio> Indeed...
[08:29] <jakeio> At least traffic shouldn't be bad as it's not bank holiday Saturday.
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[08:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03JMHS after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JMHS
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[09:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PISKY9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PISKY9
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[09:36] <M0RJX> ping upu
[09:36] <M0RJX> ping Upu
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[09:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PISKY10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PISKY10
[09:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DIXON - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DIXON
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[10:05] <pb0ahx> !flights
[10:05] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03PS-68 434.650 OLIVIA 8/250 Enable RSID 10(b3db), 03UBSEDS19&20 434.610 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(303d)
[10:05] <pb0ahx> !payload DIXON
[10:05] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[10:06] <yooshky> :(
[10:06] <pb0ahx> frequentie of DIXON or it is a test ??
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[10:11] <g8fjg> dixon 434.451 300/610 8n1 works foe me
[10:11] <g8fjg> for
[10:11] <pb0ahx> g8fjg, tnx info
[10:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PISKY11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PISKY11
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[10:14] <pb0ahx> mmm lot of qrm on that frequentie here
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[11:28] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[12:44] <yooshky> oooooooo...
[12:44] <yooshky> $$UBSEDS20,00:00:00,000000,0.0000,0.0000,0,0,5.48,25.8,0*81C1
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[12:45] <yooshky> $$UBSEDS20,00:00:00,000000,0.0000,0.0000,0,0,5.38,28.0,0*B8B1
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[12:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> yooshky, UBSEDS20 is Solar Powered and needs sufficent sunlight before GPS and radio start working, those records are pre the GPS getting a lock after about 30-60 seconds it will lock, then about a further 60 seconds and pictures will start to be downloaded.
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[13:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0SBU - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0SBU
[13:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0SBU-10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0SBU-10
[13:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M0SBU-9 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0SBU-9
[13:15] <jakeio> What sort of price is h2 per cu m?
[13:16] <jakeio> And is it feasible for me to do a flight with h2? Where might I buy some?
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[13:25] <gonzo__> what country are you in?
[13:25] <daveake> Wales :)
[13:25] <daveake> It's not going to save money relative to helium, unless you use a lot
[13:26] <gonzo__> gas choice and suppier is probably a long way down the lidt of priorities.
[13:28] <edmoore> jakeio: IT'S FEASIBLE
[13:28] <edmoore> sorry capslock
[13:28] <edmoore> it's quite feasiable
[13:28] <edmoore> you can get it from the same places as heliu, tho not mum-and-dad party supplies shops
[13:29] <edmoore> but boc, air products, etc
[13:29] <SpeedEvil> Or other vendors - large welding shops may have it, for example
[13:30] <edmoore> i doubt many welding places would have hydrogen
[13:33] <SpeedEvil> I'm sure I saw it in an online store I came across.
[13:33] <SpeedEvil> Perhaps not though
[13:34] <SpeedEvil> I have noted in the past that natural gas may be quite usable as a balloon gas. It has half the lift of H or He. But it is 50p/m^3
[13:38] <edmoore> if you tapped off your oven's supply
[13:38] <edmoore> probably not as a cylinder
[13:39] <Mack> Probably wouldn't work as well tapping off my oil supply
[13:40] <edmoore> there are easier ways to cause an environmental disaster certainly
[13:40] <daveake> jakeio: The costs per cylinder are a bit lower than for He, but you also need a regulator (about £90 +VAT IIRC)
[13:40] <daveake> So it takes a few launches to break even
[13:41] <daveake> Or if this is just a 1-off for your next launch, probably you can have some of my gas, and use my reg
[13:42] <daveake> Just depends on if I've available whenever that is
[13:44] <gonzo__> as kids we would fill bin bags off the mains gas and.......
[13:47] <SpeedEvil> Quite. It is possible to be very unsafe with it. Only if you know what you're doing.
[13:48] <gonzo__> keywords: kids + gas
[13:49] <gonzo__> I assume that for a one off launch, you will need to buy/hire/borrow a reg anyway. (though I think the genie bottles have a built in reg?)
[13:51] <craag> they do not.
[13:53] <gonzo__> ok, ta. Only one ever seen was the one you had for EMF
[13:53] <gonzo__> and didn't see the fill
[13:53] <craag> It has just a valve on the top, then I was using the noddy latex tilt inflator for filling
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[13:57] <craag> can also confirm that opening the valve indoors = loud.
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[14:01] <gonzo__> not advised on H2 (And certainly not indoors!)
[14:01] <gonzo__> was that genie bottle He or balloon gas mix?
[14:03] <craag> It was purchased as balloon gas, but it's a decent percentage helium I believe
[14:03] <craag> eg. enough to model as He and not notice
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[14:05] <SpeedEvil> The only actual measurements I found for balloon gas say it's probably He, cut with enough H so as to not be flammable
[14:06] <gonzo__> also, does not look nlike BOC do a gelie bottle for H2
[14:07] <craag> I believe daveake has been using h2 in genie bottles
[14:07] <gonzo__> I tghought that balloon gas had air in, for when pwople breath it (from the balloon or if there was a room full of balloons)
[14:07] <daveake> Yep. And Steve has
[14:08] <daveake> Similar to the H2 ones but no pressure gauge
[14:08] <daveake> and it's red :)
[14:08] <gonzo__> Ah, ok. They certrainly look to be a more practical bottle. What;s the price like, compared to steel bottles?
[14:09] <SpeedEvil> gonzo__: a lot of people say that - I can't find any source for that
[14:09] <craag> I've heard of 70/30 balloon gas mix, to reduce danger as an asphyxiant, but only from tiny balloon gas shops.
[14:09] <SpeedEvil> craag: and can't be anything to do with the fact that air is free
[14:09] <craag> yeah I've always thought a bit of that too ;)
[14:10] <craag> but BOC's gas appears pure-enough He in my experience
[14:10] <craag> and they don't describe it as anything but
[14:10] <SpeedEvil> Maybe it's just 'helium' where they don't bother pumping out the bottles
[14:11] <craag> that would be a safety concern I think
[14:11] <SpeedEvil> I guess.
[14:11] <craag> you have no idea what a bottle's contaminated with
[14:11] <craag> and testing it properly is likely too expensive
[14:11] <SpeedEvil> Some nutters pumped 200PSI of acetylene into it
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[14:12] <edmoore> they vac down all the bottles between refills
[14:13] <edmoore> as they can make no guarantees of what an earth the customer has done
[14:14] <gonzo__> OK, BOC's site is a bit inconsistant with how they list things between the different pages. Found the H2
[14:14] <edmoore> we went through all this ringmarole when negotionating hydrogen for something, as we had to return 42 bottles a week half full
[14:14] <gonzo__> Yep, I know someone who filled a propane bottle with H2
[14:15] <gonzo__> that poss may make the next propane use a bit 'interesting', but it was a scrap bottle
[14:17] <gonzo__> are the genie bottles the same bottle fitting as the steel ones? Again, BOC site is not that informative
[14:17] <craag> no
[14:17] <craag> the gender on the threaded fitting is the other way round I think
[14:17] <daveake> Different fitting and also less apce for the regulator
[14:18] <daveake> Yes fuel gasses have lefty threads
[14:18] <craag> that too.. I thought the gender was reversed to a steel cylinder too.. maybe not
[14:19] <daveake> No
[14:19] <craag> ok
[14:19] <gonzo__> I was scratting about for info on steel bottles. Even ringing them didn't give me the firring spec. So just waited till it turned up and tried what I had in the box of bits
[14:20] <gonzo__> there are internal and external thread couplings and the LH/RH thing
[14:20] <gonzo__> on pipework, you also have the different sense
[14:21] <gonzo__> though I bring everything to a common quick fit connector anyway. And am bloody careful what i plug onto what
[14:22] <SpeedEvil> hozelock?
[14:22] <SpeedEvil> :)
[14:22] <SpeedEvil> Sort-of-kidding.
[14:23] <gonzo__> hehe, I've done worse
[14:23] <gonzo__> it's useful when you want to do silly tricks like, putting a blow torch on an inert gas to use as a flood
[14:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03fonz_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=fonz_chase
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[15:30] <Laurenceb> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/14/21/2F60218A00000578-3359967-image-a-2_1450130311905.jpg
[15:32] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Are you suggesting that DailyMail readers can understand a grapth ?
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[15:34] <russss> that's a kind of misleading graph
[15:34] <russss> in several ways
[15:35] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Would you expect anything else from the Daily Fail ?
[15:36] <russss> it seems surprisingly detailed for the Mail
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[15:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC0LKV-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC0LKV-11
[15:58] <edmoore> Laurenceb: i remember seeing that last year
[15:59] <edmoore> it's a bit finger-in-bum
[15:59] <Laurenceb> heh :D
[15:59] <edmoore> not least because the x axis stops about 10 times short of where you want a reusable rocket to be
[16:00] <Laurenceb> are you working on reaction engines related kit or is it mostly other stuff?
[16:00] <edmoore> almost entirely the former
[16:00] <Laurenceb> I havent seen any updates from Reaction engines for ages
[16:00] <Laurenceb> interesting
[16:00] <Laurenceb> so it's still on the go?
[16:00] <edmoore> yes of course
[16:00] <Laurenceb> heh ok
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[16:54] <PE2BZ> Any LoRa 869 plans for this weekend ? My RX and antenna are ready ;-)
[17:01] <jakeio> Yes.
[17:01] <jakeio> PE2BZ, I'm launching my LoRa payload again, live imaging should work this time.
[17:01] <PE2BZ> Nice !
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[17:01] <jakeio> The Civil Aviation Authority kindly extended my permission to an extra flight.
[17:01] <PE2BZ> I´ll try to add a preamp to the logper
[17:02] <PE2BZ> pe2bz now knows what CAA means without asking ;-)
[17:03] <PE2BZ> jakeio aiming for 30 km or more ?
[17:03] <jakeio> No, probably max 27km.
[17:04] <PE2BZ> That should be enough ;-)
[17:04] <jakeio> Just a small flight so that I can talk about LoRa imaging in my personal statement for University applications.
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[17:15] <PE2BZ> jakeio are you using a default LoRa mode or manual setup ?
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[17:16] <jakeio> It's pretty much LoRa mode 3 I think, however, SF7 and error coding 4/5.
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[17:17] <PE2BZ> I ´ll check the settings on the launch day !
[17:17] <tjanos> !hysplit get UBSEDS20
[17:17] <SpacenearUS> 03tjanos: HYSPLIT for 03UBSEDS20 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/160830-16_12688_UBSEDS20.gif
[17:23] <jakeio> PE2BZ, do you know what the green circle is on the tracker? I know that the blue one is the horizon.
[17:24] <bertrik> the green circle is the "5 degree horizon"
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[17:27] <Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjKp__DfpeY
[17:28] <Laurenceb> impressive for hobbyking kit
[17:35] <daveake> PE2BZ: Just set mode 3 - it uses explicit headers so the header tells the receiver about the SF/EC settings
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[17:53] <PE2BZ> jakeio no, I don´t know, I allways assumed that that would be the 868 MHz range ;-)
[17:53] <PE2BZ> daveake thanks, good to know !
[18:08] <bertrik> oh, as far as I can tell from the datasheets, the header contains info about the payload length, the coding rate and the presence of a CRC. I think you still have to get at least the frequency, SF and bandwidth right.
[18:10] <daveake> bandwidth and frequency certainly
[18:10] <daveake> sf not sure
[18:11] <daveake> Well wasn't sure ... but you're probably right :p
[18:33] <jakeio> Ah, my prediction's improved a lot.
[18:34] <jakeio> Now it goes to Northampton not Peterborough...
[18:34] <jakeio> But it lands 1.3km from the M1...
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[19:10] <Ian_> I guess that with luck the prediction will improve further and the payload will conveniently land in a field. Predictors aren't the same as compilers, because they get changed other factors between runs . . . :)
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[19:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UBSEDS19 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS19
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[22:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5KMP-6 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-6
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[22:44] <jarod> http://stuffin.space/
[22:44] <jarod> cool :)
[22:45] <SpeedEvil> It is
[22:47] <Vaizki> I wonder why it's just telling me I need WebGL and Web Worker support...
[22:47] <Vaizki> I have Chrome 52, should be ok
[22:49] <Vaizki> ok forget it.. had hw acceleration off which disables webgl
[22:51] <Vaizki> good old west ford needles...
[22:51] <Vaizki> sigh
[22:56] <SpeedEvil> Are you familiar with the ISS LASER cannon?
[22:59] <Vaizki> not too familiar, I know it was proposed..
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[23:04] <SpeedEvil> http://www.physics.uci.edu/tajima/Ebisuzakietal2015.pdf - is quite a readable paper on it
[23:04] <SpeedEvil> quite neat
[23:04] <SpeedEvil> plased array LASER using effectively adaptive optics to steer and focus the beam
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[23:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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