highaltitude.log.20160827

[00:03] <Ian_> Welcome home, was there a deputation at arrivals?
[00:08] <G8KNN> not that weak.
[00:10] Last message repeated 14 time(s).
[00:10] <Laurenceb__> what on earth
[00:11] <Ian_> Listen carefully, for I shall say this only once . . .
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[02:56] <SpeedEvil> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Airbornelaserturret.jpg - imagine a birdstrike
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[04:49] <arko> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEC0G2HbuiE now thats some cool tech& laser communication from hab to hab
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[05:52] <DL7AD> good morning
[05:52] <DL7AD> solar launch looks good
[05:53] <DL7AD> just we are a bit behind schedule
[05:53] <DL7AD> the balloons are being inflated now
[05:53] <DL7AD> the ssdv transmission is already working fine
[05:53] <DL7AD> and ssdv pictures from the preparations can be watched already on the ssdv page
[05:55] <Darkside> ahh
[05:56] <Darkside> i'll stop uploading my test images then
[05:56] <Darkside> :P
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[06:09] <DL7AD> back
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[06:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB-11 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-11
[06:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-3 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-3
[07:00] <DL7AD> okay
[07:00] <DL7AD> we have launched the balloon
[07:01] <jcoxon> hooray
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[07:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-3 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-3
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[07:36] <jakeio> Curse the rain! You better stop before I launch!
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[07:37] <Upu> latex ?
[07:37] <Upu> launch anyway
[07:37] <jakeio> My launch isn't till midday, it's scheduled to stop and clear up about then.
[07:37] <jakeio> It's going to rain heavily for the descent though.
[07:38] <jakeio> Or, at least, for the last bit of it.
[07:38] <edmoore> that'll help it down
[07:38] <jakeio> My thought exactly! Especially as my parachute is quite large for my payload's weight.
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[07:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AF5LI-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AF5LI-11
[07:44] <jakeio> Anybody based in Birmingham or Nottingham area?
[07:47] <BubUK> im in yorkshire. handy if it goes completely off course !
[07:48] <jakeio> That would indeed be completely off course!
[07:48] <BubUK> haha. true.
[07:48] <BubUK> good luck, nice day for it.
[07:48] <jakeio> Well, not here, it's presently raining...
[07:50] <BubUK> ah. nice up here. blue skies and sunny with virtually no breeze
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[08:02] <DL7AD> okay
[08:03] <DL7AD> the solar balloon AF5LI-11 is now turning heading poland on 3500m
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[08:08] <jakeio> Signal strength from my LoRa seems to degrade enormously with just a few m distance, didn't do this in testing a few days ago.
[08:10] <jakeio> Having no antenna on my funCube probably doesn't help...
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[08:11] <PE2BZ> Put a wire or a resistor in the center hole of the funcubes sma connector (8 cm would do)
[08:21] <jakeio> Well, I just connected it to my Yagi and all was good.
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[08:29] <PE2BZ> jakeio don´t forget to enjoy !
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[08:43] <jakeio> PE2BZ, thank you!
[08:44] <daveake> jakeio: what's your prediction like? I checked 30km/5/5 yesterday and it was uncomfortably close to Brum
[08:45] <jakeio> daveake, Mine suggests just north of Burton-Upon-Trent.
[08:46] <jakeio> http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=364a483a8052ee471603c3dfec93df651a396c76
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[08:47] <daveake> Remember to account for early burst etc
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[09:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03JMHS after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JMHS
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[09:21] <Rharrison_> PE2BZ, looking at code now
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[09:21] <Upu> wb Rharrison
[09:21] <Upu> get your delivery ?
[09:24] <BubUK> daveake: is there a special format for the 1.sms uplink message in the gateway ? It's scanning the dir but nothing is sent ...
[09:24] <PE2BZ> Rharrison sorry to take your time so soon after al your work ;-)
[09:24] <Rharrison_> Not yet the neighbours picked it up !!!
[09:24] <Upu> oh ok fair enough
[09:24] <Rharrison_> PE2BZ, fixed git pull
[09:25] <Rharrison_> I moved the url for curl to a strcpy but forgot to comment out the last two which pointed to my server
[09:25] <Rharrison_> PE2BZ, http://ext.hgf.com/ssdv/index.php
[09:25] <PE2BZ> That´s where all my ssdv packets went ;-)
[09:25] <Rharrison_> have a look below the top pic :-)
[09:26] <Rharrison_> Is there a way in git to fix a version for release so people can clone from that whilst I still dev?
[09:27] <Rharrison_> for those that don't know my repo https://github.com/rharrison/lora-gateway.git
[09:27] <Rharrison_> Is there a flight up today ?
[09:27] <Rharrison_> Still sleepy from yesterday
[09:27] <Rharrison_> Upu, cant wait to see them
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[09:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> Right pulled that keeps fingers crossed ;-)
[09:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yes SKIPI doing SSDV on 869.850MHz due at 11:00
[09:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> UTC
[09:28] <PE2BZ> YEssss ! It works ! Now I have to spread the news on UKHAS
[09:28] <PE2BZ> And then visit my mother in law :-(
[09:33] <Darkside> http://imgur.com/j0QN1He
[09:33] <Darkside> right, first test of 115kbps FSK SSDV at range...
[09:34] <PE2BZ> Rharrison thanks for your fast reply :-)
[09:34] Action: PE2BZ is back to away mode....
[09:35] <edmoore> what does the gui represent Darkside ?
[09:35] <Darkside> which bit
[09:36] <Darkside> the big screenis meant to be an image
[09:36] <Darkside> obviously missing a few packets
[09:36] <Darkside> not a good image to test with. its pointing out a window into the dark
[09:36] <Darkside> and seeing reflections of the room its in
[09:36] <PE2BZ> Darkside what was the range ?
[09:36] <edmoore> i see
[09:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DL7AD-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-11
[09:37] <Darkside> about 4km, with trees in the way
[09:37] <Darkside> definitely not a line-of-sight path
[09:37] <Rharrison_> Phew 30 mins before deadline
[09:37] <PE2BZ> directional antennas ?
[09:37] <Darkside> X-50 at one end
[09:37] <edmoore> nice Darkside
[09:37] <edmoore> this is 2fesk?
[09:37] <Darkside> effectively a 1/4 wave at the other end
[09:37] <Darkside> edmoore: yes
[09:38] <PE2BZ> I would say quite good results, for first tests !
[09:38] <Rharrison_> PE2BZ, Ofthen if the errors have just occurred having a quick nose at the git changes will probably highlight the issue :-)
[09:38] <Darkside> hoping to do a closer-to-LOS test tomorrow
[09:38] <Darkside> with the TX on the top of a big hill
[09:38] <Rharrison_> PE2BZ, if you need a fix in a rush
[09:40] <PE2BZ> Rharrison I was forseeing big problems if all viewers switched to your version because of the improved uploads and have had nothing uploaded. However, you have been a great backup for my ¨Westland in the morning mist¨ images
[09:40] <Rharrison_> PE2BZ, having said that the change was burried in about 10 commits from that fix for BubUK
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[09:40] <PE2BZ> But I have to go now... CU later !
[09:40] <Rharrison_> PE2BZ, ttfn
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[09:42] <fsphil> Darkside: nice!
[09:44] <Darkside> really need to figure out getting FEC working in there..
[09:44] <BubUK_> Rharrison_: even though i hae habitat turned off on my gateway, the ssdv images still upload to habhub. is this right ?
[09:44] <Rharrison_> :-)
[09:45] <Rharrison_> BubUK_, probably not let me see if i've lost the config
[09:45] <BubUK_> habhub is full of images of my street ;-)
[09:45] <BubUK_> whoops
[09:46] <BubUK_> i wouldnt mind but they look terrible thanks to rpi camera - the colours are all wrong
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[09:46] <Darkside> haha
[09:47] <BubUK_> someone will obviously complain at some point ;-
[09:47] <BubUK_> ;-(
[09:47] <Darkside> nahh
[09:47] <Darkside> the ssdv page is there to be used
[09:47] <BubUK_> pity you cant delete your own images from the hub to keep it clean
[09:48] <BubUK_> at least it was pointing OUT of the window !
[09:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> Is it just me ?
[09:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> or do others have the same problem ?
[09:48] <BubUK_> just you what ?
[09:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> keeping up with the versions of software
[09:48] <BubUK_> i keep cloning it and trying to keep up
[09:49] <Rharrison_> Geoff-G8DHE, well you can use daveake's if you want stable but might miss a few packets
[09:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> on gIT when the all claim to be the same lora-gateway
[09:49] <Rharrison_> Ahh I caould flick the v number
[09:49] <Rharrison_> 1.7.1 - 50?
[09:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> I know have lora-gateway, lora-gateway-rharrison, lora-gateway-ubseds and all title the window when running lora-gateway !!!
[09:49] <fsphil> BubUK_: need something deleted?
[09:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BLACKOPS_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BLACKOPS_chase
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[09:50] <Rharrison_> BubUK_, no naked pics infont of the kettle see google
[09:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> Anything so that when your actually running it, the title says what it is ;-)
[09:50] <Rharrison_> Ok Geoff-G8DHE will sort in 5
[09:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> No problem right now, but I can see several forks coming up and it would just be nice for us Trackers to be certain I'm running the right software!
[09:54] <edmoore> redscreen for osx
[09:54] <edmoore> preserves night vision
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[09:54] <BubUK_> luckily i do the naked hoovering away from the room with the camera !
[09:55] <BubUK_> fsphil: not really, i was concerned that the ssdv on habhub should not contain unwanted images
[09:55] <fsphil> it'll happen one of these days
[09:55] <BubUK_> haha
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[10:01] <labjg> So Darkside, can you shed any light on the AU radio rules for HABs? :)
[10:02] <Darkside> labjg: 434mhz ism band, 25mw limit
[10:02] <Darkside> or if you have an amateur radio licence, do whatever you please :-)
[10:03] <labjg> License free? Or do you need a basic HAM license?
[10:03] <Darkside> 434mhz ism band is licence free
[10:03] <Darkside> not sure if there's duty cycle limits
[10:03] <labjg> ah cool
[10:03] <Rharrison_> Geoff-G8DHE, git pull for you :-)
[10:03] <labjg> I got myself so confused trying to find the definitive answer online
[10:03] <labjg> Thanks!
[10:04] <Darkside> so all the standard RTTY stuff used around here will work just fine
[10:04] <labjg> Plan is a pi in the sky setup so all good then
[10:04] <Darkside> as will LoRa
[10:04] <Darkside> yeah
[10:04] <edmoore> Darkside is our in-house definitive answerer for aus questions
[10:04] <Darkside> get in contact with local amateur radio clubs if you can
[10:04] <Darkside> as they will probably help track
[10:04] <Darkside> i know of at least one ham in VK1 (ACT) that has tracked balloons previously
[10:04] <labjg> ok great
[10:05] <labjg> so for horus were you just using 545 RTTY?
[10:05] <labjg> *434
[10:05] <Darkside> only know his callsign mind you, VK1KW
[10:05] <mfa298> Rharrison_: to answer an earlier question I think the common options to mark a release are either create a suitably named branch or a tag
[10:05] <Darkside> yeah thats our 'primary' telemetry
[10:05] <labjg> k, noted, ta
[10:06] <Rharrison_> mfa298, ok bit new to this git stuff so will read up
[10:06] <Darkside> i've been using lora for telemetry recently too
[10:06] <labjg> Do you know much about this APRS thingo?
[10:06] <Rharrison_> for the time being bear with me if you want to come for the ride on my git release :-)
[10:06] <Darkside> well for that you definitely need an amateur licence
[10:07] <BubUK_> does anyone have the gateway sms uplink working ?
[10:07] <Darkside> and unlike the UK, the 'basic' licence level here (foundation) doesn't let you do data modes
[10:07] <labjg> LoRa is all new to me.. all I know is it's two-way data
[10:07] <Darkside> so you need at least 'standard'
[10:07] <mfa298> Geoff-G8DHE: on github if you click the number next to fork it should show the various versions and how they relate
[10:07] <Darkside> labjg: stick with the pi in the sky RTTY approach for your first launch then
[10:07] <Darkside> labjg: RTLSDR + habamp for RX will do fine
[10:07] <Rharrison_> BubUK_, not looked at this yet
[10:07] <labjg> Yeah.. one step at a time eh
[10:08] <Darkside> yes... start with casa
[10:08] <Darkside> make sure you can get permission first...
[10:08] <mfa298> Rharrison_: I think the main difference is a branch allows you to have later commits on that branch (useful if there might be big fixes) a tag just tags that set of file states.
[10:08] <Rharrison_> BubUK_, ssdv is separate from habitat
[10:08] <labjg> Yeah got someone working on that; fingers crossed
[10:09] <Rharrison_> mfa298, that's what I need. There tend to be a few revisions with my release :-)
[10:09] <BubUK_> ah. so cant stop ssdv and keep it local whilst testing ?
[10:09] <Darkside> for other possible telemetry options, you might want to see if you can get in contact with some of the guys at MHV
[10:09] <Darkside> make havk void
[10:09] <Darkside> hack*
[10:09] <Darkside> andrew tridgell in particular
[10:09] <Darkside> he's been mainly focussed on telemetry to UAVs mind you
[10:09] <Rharrison_> EnableHabitat=Y
[10:09] <Rharrison_> EnableSSDV=N
[10:09] <mfa298> branches in git are good, the recommendation seems to be to always develop in a branch then merge them into master when it's working (or close).
[10:09] <BubUK_> apart from enablessdv
[10:10] <Darkside> but i suspect their 434mhz modem would work over longer distances
[10:10] <Rharrison_> BubUK_, ^^^^
[10:10] <labjg> Nice!
[10:10] <Rharrison_> mfa298, thanks for that insite I haven't moved from master yet
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[10:10] <Darkside> labjg: i'd start with RTTY tho
[10:10] <BubUK_> i see. i think what i meant was being able to receive on MY gateway images for testing which didnt get uploaded to interweb
[10:10] <Geoff-G8DHE> Thanks Rharrison_, having three current versions all looking the same was a pain
[10:10] <labjg> Only just moved to Canberra so MHV is on my hitlist of clubs to check out :)
[10:11] <Darkside> yeah definitely worth going there
[10:11] <Darkside> i actually gave a talk on HAB there a while ago
[10:11] <labjg> Yeah plenty to learn with that. It's a learning launch really
[10:11] <Darkside> very short talk :P
[10:11] <Rharrison_> BubUK_, just set that to no and it will do everything but upload I think
[10:11] <labjg> Cool; where are you based?
[10:11] <Darkside> labjg: Adelaide
[10:11] <labjg> Figures (Horus)
[10:12] <Darkside> yes :P
[10:12] <labjg> So who in the horus team are you actually? If I may..
[10:12] <BubUK_> thnx. just resting it now so more naked hoovering images on their way ;-)
[10:13] <Rharrison_> yep BubUK_ that's right looking at the code just turn that off and you will get all the info localy nut not posted
[10:13] <Darkside> labjg: Mark, VK5QI
[10:14] <labjg> righto. got a mate USyd who knows one of you; failed to get me a valid email address though
[10:15] <Darkside> hmmmmm
[10:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> mfa298, No its not the GIT end, its when I'm running the code, and all three versions appear identical on screen you then ask yourself which am I running ;-)
[10:15] <Darkside> usyd eh...
[10:15] <Darkside> this guy wouldnt happen to work with timing systems would he?
[10:15] <Darkside> (i can't remember is name, but i know a few guys at usyd)
[10:16] <labjg> I even facebook-stalked Terry B and sent him a completely unsolicited message about radio laws lol
[10:16] <Darkside> hahaha
[10:16] <labjg> umm.. he's in astro instrumentation like me
[10:16] <Darkside> yes terry is quite busy
[10:16] <labjg> photonics
[10:16] <Darkside> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[10:16] <Darkside> might still be the same gy
[10:16] <Darkside> guy*
[10:17] <Darkside> i think he came to adelaide uni to do a bit of work a while ago
[10:17] <Darkside> maybe
[10:17] <labjg> i only knew you hung out on this channel because i bought a PitS kit on uputronics and in my order confirmation email it said 'hit up Darkside if you want tip on Aussie HAB'
[10:17] <PE2BZ> !flights
[10:17] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03SKIPI and SKIPI2 Launch 10(36e5), 03PS-68 434.650 OLIVIA 8/250 Enable RSID 10(b3db)
[10:17] <labjg> small community :D
[10:18] <PE2BZ> !dial SKIPI1
[10:18] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[10:18] <labjg> (The photonics guy is called Sergio)
[10:18] <Darkside> ok then no :P
[10:18] <edmoore> labjg what sort of astro instrumentation?
[10:18] <Darkside> not who i'm thinking of
[10:19] <mfa298> Geoff-G8DHE: ah, you can do "git pull github_url local dir" if you need to keep track of them
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[10:19] <labjg> edmoore: ground-based mainly; optical spectrographs
[10:19] <mfa298> although nothign to help with knowing which one is which from the screen when running I guess
[10:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> thats the problem, I usually leave a copy running for days at a time and then got to kill it to find out which it was ...
[10:20] <edmoore> labjg: nice
[10:20] <edmoore> i've always quite fancied working at an observatory
[10:21] <labjg> i love it
[10:21] <Darkside> labjg: stromlo? or stuff within ANU?
[10:21] <labjg> perfect mix of engineering and science
[10:21] <labjg> Darkside: Yeah based on Stromlo
[10:21] <Darkside> nice
[10:21] <edmoore> labjg: exactly
[10:21] <labjg> the labs are up there too
[10:21] <edmoore> i like where there's a mix
[10:22] <edmoore> making things and then doing research with them
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[10:22] <labjg> totally
[10:23] <Darkside> lots of cool stuff at ANU
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[10:23] <Darkside> got to go on a tour of the heliac, and the other particle accelerator
[10:23] <Darkside> was very cool
[10:23] <labjg> we do spacecraft testing too
[10:23] <labjg> ah nice
[10:23] <edmoore> spacecraft optics?
[10:23] <labjg> i'm still to see a lot of this stuff myself. not been off the mountain yet!
[10:23] <Darkside> heh
[10:24] <labjg> edmoore: we're trying
[10:24] <edmoore> nice
[10:24] <labjg> edmoore: space projects are hard to fund in Oz.. govt funding bodies are scared of it
[10:24] <Darkside> yes...
[10:25] <edmoore> it's getting better here, uk
[10:25] <labjg> currently got a proposal lined up for a cubesat infrared telescope.. didn;t get funded last year, so trying again this year
[10:25] <edmoore> in the last 5 years my field (rocket propulsion) has had an explosion of enthusiasm
[10:25] <edmoore> and funding to a lesser extent
[10:25] <labjg> edmoore: yeah i just came over from the uk actually (i'm a brit)
[10:25] <edmoore> but before that then anything with flames coming out was frowned upon by the gov
[10:25] <labjg> cool! where do you work?
[10:25] <edmoore> they just did downstream sat stuff
[10:25] <edmoore> i work in oxford
[10:26] <edmoore> near oxford anyway
[10:26] <edmoore> propulsion r+d for an air-breathing rocet engine
[10:26] <labjg> heh, i was in oxford until last year
[10:26] <labjg> at the uni? spin-off?
[10:26] <edmoore> private company
[10:26] <edmoore> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SABRE_(rocket_engine)
[10:27] <labjg> you at reaction?
[10:27] <labjg> ah!
[10:27] <labjg> yes
[10:27] <labjg> so you are
[10:28] <Darkside> heh
[10:28] <labjg> great stuff
[10:28] <edmoore> what were you doing in oxford?
[10:30] <labjg> astrophysics phd
[10:30] <edmoore> oh nice
[10:31] <edmoore> i know a few particle physics guys here but have never really bumped into astronomers
[10:31] <edmoore> except for that guy doing the SKA who gives talks a lot
[10:31] <labjg> we share a canteen :P
[10:31] <labjg> ah ok
[10:32] <edmoore> well nick_ here is a particle physicist at ox
[10:32] <labjg> cool
[10:32] <labjg> not sure i knew any nicks
[10:33] <edmoore> https://www2.physics.ox.ac.uk/contacts/people/ryder
[10:33] <Rharrison_> !track
[10:33] <SpacenearUS> 03Rharrison_: Here you go - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=
[10:33] <labjg> edmoore: don't recognise
[10:34] <edmoore> oh well.
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[10:34] <labjg> tbh my time in ox was a bit of a whirlwind; did't live in town and only left the lab for beer
[10:34] <edmoore> ha
[10:35] <labjg> express-phd
[10:35] <labjg> desperate to get back to the aussie sun
[10:35] <Darkside> back to?
[10:36] <labjg> (was working in sydney for 3ish years before going back to uni)
[10:36] <Darkside> ahh
[10:37] <labjg> I have an ElecEng background (Bath Uni), then got an eng job at an observatory and i guess you can work out the rest
[10:37] <Darkside> Bath!
[10:37] <edmoore> oh so you're a back-to-PhD person?
[10:37] <Darkside> huh
[10:37] <labjg> i am a back-to-phd person :)
[10:37] <labjg> never saw it coming
[10:38] <edmoore> i've been thinking about it. Just worried that I'm a bit to used to a salary and being able to travel
[10:38] <labjg> but interesting projects be interesting!
[10:38] <labjg> yeah beware mate
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[10:38] <Darkside> labjg: i know a few guys at bath...
[10:38] <edmoore> there's a lot of fun research in the sabre but probably none of it publishable, it's a question of how one can launder it
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[10:39] <Darkside> labjg: in the INVERT research lab
[10:39] <labjg> my wife and i pretty much wanted to bolt as soon as i got going on the phd; hence wanting to finish up fast
[10:39] <Darkside> tob watson, cath mitchell
[10:39] <Darkside> etc
[10:39] <Darkside> rob watcon*
[10:39] <Darkside> watson*
[10:39] <Darkside> ugh
[10:39] <labjg> Darkside: ha! i know them all quite well
[10:40] <edmoore> given you're antipodes it really is a small world
[10:40] <labjg> cath's husband was my tutor
[10:40] <labjg> know rob well; top bloke
[10:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> !flights
[10:40] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Current flights: 03SKIPI and SKIPI2 Launch 10(36e5), 03PS-68 434.650 OLIVIA 8/250 Enable RSID 10(b3db)
[10:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> !flight 36e5
[10:40] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Flight 10(36e5): 03SKIPI and SKIPI2 Launch 10(2 payloads) - Launch date 03Today at 11:00 from 10(51.82606,-2.71353)
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[10:41] <Darkside> labjg: now i work on OTHR
[10:41] <labjg> well.. did know rob fairly well at the time. now it's just twitter banter
[10:41] <Darkside> which is good fun
[10:42] <labjg> nice!
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[10:42] <labjg> Well in Oz most stuff is OTH soo...
[10:42] <Darkside> hahha
[10:43] <Darkside> yes
[10:44] <Darkside> i'm in the sustainment side of it, not the research side sadly
[10:46] <labjg> uhuh
[10:47] <labjg> so funny that three of us are chatting and all linked in some way
[10:47] <edmoore> yay irc
[10:47] <Darkside> yes...
[10:47] <labjg> all because i fancy launching a bloody balloon with some astronomers
[10:47] <Darkside> hehe
[10:48] <labjg> years since i've used irc too
[10:48] <labjg> it's refreshing
[10:48] <labjg> used to be on pc gaming channels all the time about 10 years ago heh
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[10:49] <Darkside> IRC sure is good fun...
[10:51] <edmoore> irc just keeps on trucking
[10:51] <edmoore> i haven't launched a balloon for about 5 years now
[10:51] <edmoore> yet i am still here
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[10:52] <SpeedEvil> Rockets count!
[10:52] <labjg> hooray for community ties eh
[10:53] <edmoore> that's true i have done rockets
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[11:02] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[11:10] <gonzo__> anything in the air yet?
[11:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SKIPI2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SKIPI2
[11:11] <gonzo__> habhub too slow here
[11:11] <gonzo__> was that a fluke?
[11:16] <Darkside> no, flukes are yellow
[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SKIPI after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SKIPI
[11:20] <daveake> Flukes are too expensive to fly
[11:21] <daey> out of curiousity does anyone happen to know which solder NASA uses? i found many guides on how NASA solders, but not what they use
[11:22] <daey> im guessing they will use gold coating for all pcbs. which means they are likely not using the sn62pb36ag2
[11:23] <SpeedEvil> I would be astonished if it's one solder
[11:23] <SpeedEvil> Also 'NASA' doesn't do anything.
[11:24] <SpeedEvil> NASA is a collection of various labs, and outside contractors
[11:24] <SpeedEvil> all of which will have their own way of doing things.
[11:24] <daey> sure they do
[11:24] <daey> they define what specs to follow
[11:25] <edmoore> http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/codeq/doctree/canceled/NS87393-Ch5.pdf
[11:25] <edmoore> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/T2axz4ha/
[11:25] <edmoore> 6.11.1
[11:25] <daey> x-cored solder shall be either composition SN60 or SN63
[11:26] <daey> ah nvm :D
[11:26] <daey> so nothing special :(
[11:27] <fsphil> what where you expecting? :)
[11:27] <edmoore> the specs are often not that exciting
[11:27] <edmoore> just formalised common sense
[11:27] <edmoore> and some stupid parts to cover all asses
[11:27] <SpeedEvil> And procedures to avoid the stupid.
[11:28] <SpeedEvil> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOAA-19#Damage_during_manufacture
[11:28] <SpeedEvil> Or try to
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[11:28] <daey> 'let me just tilt the platform to see what happens'
[11:29] Action: SpeedEvil wonders what a $135m crash sounds like.
[11:29] <fsphil> more swearing
[11:29] <Darkside> ugh
[11:29] Action: Darkside notices the company involved
[11:29] <Darkside> whoops
[11:30] <daey> The remainder of the repair costs were paid by the United States government
[11:30] <daey> isnt it great to be a big company...
[11:31] <fsphil> at least nobody was hurt. that thing looks heavy
[11:31] <Darkside> fsphil: apologies for the ssdv spam
[11:31] <Darkside> doing some testing at 19200 baud
[11:31] <SpeedEvil> https://www.wmo-sat.info/oscar/satellites/view/341 - mostly still intact and working
[11:31] <fsphil> tis fine. can delete it all later
[11:32] <fsphil> 19200 is working well
[11:32] <fsphil> I think we worked out that bandwidth was usable in the UK?
[11:32] <Darkside> maybe
[11:32] <SpeedEvil> I strongly recommend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYyhMQzcVlY
[11:32] <Darkside> i currently have the frequency shift way out at 120khz
[11:32] <SpeedEvil> This is the OCO2 satellite.
[11:33] <Darkside> if you bring that back in to 19khz it would probably be just within your 25khz (?) limit
[11:33] <fsphil> yeah 25khz
[11:33] <SpeedEvil> Covers issues with high resolution spectrometers to detect CO2/O2/chlorophyl, fun with doppler, issues with storage of parts, ...
[11:34] <SpeedEvil> Turns out they left the satellite on the shelf after finishing it - and the hubble people already knew the CCDs degraded rapidly at room temp. Oops
[11:34] <SpeedEvil> Fortunately still workable
[11:34] <SpeedEvil> 'David Crisp: Measuring atmospheric CO2 from space - 24 April 2015
[11:35] <Darkside> fsphil: i'm seriously considering having this first test flight send images in both 115200 and 19200 baud
[11:35] <Darkside> just to see how it goes
[11:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IK2XKF-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IK2XKF-7
[11:37] <daey> the linux/drivers/hwmon repo is a great resources for driver code for simple sensors :O
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[11:39] <DL7AD> good afternoon
[11:41] <Darkside> fsphil: https://i.imgur.com/UQLa3Zr.jpg
[11:41] <Darkside> how i'm running the demod under OSX
[11:42] <Darkside> gnuradio to do the sideband selection and convertion to short16, then the modem sits in a terminal and grabs the samples via udp
[11:42] <Darkside> little gui at the bottom shows modem stats
[11:43] <fsphil> what's the modem stats gui using? qt? looks good
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[11:44] <Darkside> yes, qt
[11:44] <Darkside> pyqtgraph
[11:44] <daey> some people have too much money :D http://i.imgur.com/wEwoQrs.jpg
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[11:45] <Darkside> fsphil: https://svn.code.sf.net/p/freetel/code/codec2-dev/octave/fskdemodgui.py
[11:45] <Darkside> my apologies.
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[11:46] <edmoore> biggest hail i've seen in oxford currently crashing down
[11:46] <nick_> Yeah
[11:47] <nick_> OUrs stopped about a minute ago (half way between Abingdon and Oxford)
[11:47] <nick_> Our garen is ~50% ice
[11:47] <russss> I was at a wedding and missed this https://twitter.com/dsn_status/status/769309221536075776
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[11:47] <nick_> Up to 2 cm diameter pieces of ice
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[11:48] <edmoore> yes
[11:48] <edmoore> really big chunks
[11:48] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... Looks (on blitzortung.org) like quite a big thunderstorm...
[11:48] <edmoore> i was going to go out but i'll wait for this little front to pass over
[11:48] <nick_> Now we have steam rising off our garden as the ice melts.
[11:49] <nick_> edmoore: there will be flooding for usre.
[11:49] <nick_> Take your wellies with you.
[11:50] <edmoore> good plan
[11:50] <nick_> We have ~5 cm deep water around our drains.
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[11:51] <edmoore> another wave has just hit
[11:51] <nick_> It's finsihed here and heading your way
[11:51] <nick_> Probably it'll be finsihed in ~5 mins.
[11:52] <edmoore> ok
[11:52] <edmoore> i'll stay in until then
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[12:05] <daveake> skipi about to launch
[12:06] <Darkside> daveake: how i hear that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_agtNKbgSfI
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[12:10] <daveake> up
[12:11] <pb0ahx> SKIPI team GL an have fun
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[12:25] <G0WXI> !dial skipi1
[12:25] <SpacenearUS> 03G0WXI: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[12:25] <Ron_g8fjg> is SKIPI on 434.650.. I dont see it
[12:26] <G0WXI> ok, thanks
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[12:30] <bertrik> just wondering, would the hab lora board fit on a pi zero?
[12:30] <bertrik> looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi#Zero it looks like it has the same 40-pin header, but there's also another header just below it that might get in the way
[12:30] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> SKIPI1 is meant to be nothing here either nor SKIPI2 ....
[12:30] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> !dial skipi1
[12:30] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[12:31] <Ron_g8fjg> antenna off?
[12:31] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> !flights
[12:31] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Current flights: 03SKIPI and SKIPI2 Launch 10(36e5), 03PS-68 434.650 OLIVIA 8/250 Enable RSID 10(b3db)
[12:31] <G0WXI> !dial skipi
[12:31] <SpacenearUS> 03G0WXI: Latest dials for 03SKIPI 10(36e5): 03434.64636 MHz, 434.646402 MHz
[12:31] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> !dial 36e5
[12:31] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Latest dials for 03SKIPI 10(36e5): 03434.64636 MHz, 434.646402 MHz
[12:31] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Latest dials for 03SKIPI2 10(36e5): none
[12:35] <Ron_g8fjg> ive got skipi2 now
[12:36] <daveake> No SSDV from that for some reason. Was supposed to kick in at 5km alt
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[12:39] <garymortimer> Afternoon all
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[12:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LCARS_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LCARS_chase
[12:41] <Ron_g8fjg> not rx'ing skipi2 now
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[12:44] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Neither tracker visible at the moment :-(
[12:44] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> getting odd packets on 869 but could just be interference
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[12:45] <Ron_g8fjg> skipi2 back but snr very low
[12:46] <Ron_g8fjg> 869.862 according to the screen
[12:48] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Got a null telemetry packet
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[12:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0HIP-7 after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
[12:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-11 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-11
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[12:57] <garymortimer> Standby for off topic question
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[12:59] <garymortimer> Here in South Africa a group is making blankets for the needy, they are stitching lots (lots) together to make an image of Mandela. What size squares would make an image visible from a atellite or ISS?
[12:59] <garymortimer> at the minut the pixels as it were are 20cm sq, too small I think
[13:00] <SpeedEvil> That depends on the satellite.
[13:01] <garymortimer> Quite, a free one!
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[13:02] <SpeedEvil> https://www.digitalglobe.com/resources/imagery-product-samples/standard-satellite-imagery
[13:03] <SpeedEvil> Free satellite imagery of specific targets is limited
[13:03] <SpeedEvil> Note that google maps uses ariel imagery mostly
[13:04] <SpeedEvil> The above is 50cm resolution paid-for-imagery. I have not checked the price, but over $1000 for the smallest area they can do would not surprise
[13:04] <SpeedEvil> MODIS is an imaging satellite which provides up-to-date images on the web.
[13:04] <SpeedEvil> But they are 250m resolution
[13:05] <garymortimer> I think the European one is 10m? Trying to remember the name
[13:05] <SpeedEvil> I am not aware of any satellite with publically available mapping services at better than that
[13:05] <SpeedEvil> yeah - they won't map a specific spot on earth for you though
[13:05] <garymortimer> No but they go past quite frequently...
[13:06] <SpeedEvil> 10m seems unlikely.
[13:06] <SpeedEvil> The bandwidth to teh sat would need to be 100Mbits or so
[13:07] <garymortimer> Ok well it was a nice idea for a moment ;-)
[13:08] <SpeedEvil> https://www.quora.com/What-satellite-imagery-is-publicly-available
[13:09] <SpeedEvil> Setting something on fire might be easier to detect in principle
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[13:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HIRF-4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-4
[13:15] <Ron_g8fjg> skipi1 is on 434.646200 for 1khz centre ..very weak
[13:19] <Ron_g8fjg> þÿÇ÷$$SKIPI.1687ûûbg88%"r.u39³¸³ù309·
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[13:20] <pb0ahx> ik hoor hem op 646.3 erg erg erg zwak
[13:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh I must be receiving it then I have a few characters like that ;-)
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[13:20] <jakeio> Hello! Is anyone tracking SKIPI 1 on RTTY?
[13:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> Not here something vaguely on the waterfall is all.
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[13:21] <Rharrison_> Hey is my gateway working for any one ?
[13:22] <Ron_g8fjg> skipi1 is on 434.646200 for 1khz centre ..very weak ..at least30db down on what I would expect
[13:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-2 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-2
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[13:23] <Rharrison_> !dial
[13:23] <SpacenearUS> 03Rharrison_: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[13:23] <Rharrison_> !flights
[13:23] <SpacenearUS> 03Rharrison_: Current flights: 03SKIPI and SKIPI2 Launch 10(36e5), 03PS-68 434.650 OLIVIA 8/250 Enable RSID 10(b3db)
[13:24] <Rharrison_> !dial SKIPI
[13:24] <SpacenearUS> 03Rharrison_: Latest dials for 03SKIPI 10(36e5): 03434.646247 MHz
[13:24] <Rharrison_> !track SKIPI
[13:24] <SpacenearUS> 03Rharrison_: Here you go - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SKIPI
[13:26] <Rharrison_> bugger all up here
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[13:27] <Ron_g8fjg> rtty just plain carrier now
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[13:29] <jakeio> Whos tracking lora? I cant seem to get anything.
[13:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> Odd CRC's and Unknown packet types here nothing consistent at all
[13:29] <Ron_g8fjg> SKIPI 2 snr up to =3 at best rssi-13
[13:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SKIPI_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SKIPI_chase
[13:31] <jakeio> Forgot to turn on chase tracker.
[13:31] <Rharrison_> lol
[13:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HIRFW-4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-4
[13:32] <Ron_g8fjg> should be +3 rssi -103
[13:32] <jakeio> Is anyone in contact with SKIPI?
[13:32] <Rharrison_> hum no data?
[13:32] <jakeio> I have RTTY now.
[13:32] <Ron_g8fjg> rtty back but V weak
[13:33] <jakeio> Yeah, its gonna be weak, no ground plane and facing upwards.
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[13:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh what happened to the aerils then ?
[13:39] <Ron_g8fjg> skipi1 also generating its own interfering carrier!
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[13:42] <Ron_g8fjg> üþ$$SKPI,1472190226,13:>2:21<59»þ> ût1y937.4,12,-
[13:43] <Ron_g8fjg> just carrier again
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[13:48] <jakeio> Im getting closer and signal is improved, still not many lora sentences.
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[13:55] <M0XIN> A teeny amount of storm activity over England... http://en.blitzortung.org/live_lightning_maps.php?map=12
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[14:02] <Ron_g8fjg> SKIPI2 4038 telem packets rx'ed so far..not long before I lose it..
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[14:03] <jakeio> Im under it now, getting good signal.
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[14:18] <jakeio> How can I enable the predicted path on tracker?
[14:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
[14:21] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Its been turned off apparently as it was causing problems I guess being worked on ?
[14:21] <Ron_g8fjg> thats it , just garbage now ..not bad for 3mts off the ground, must put it up main mast.
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[14:24] <Ron_g8fjg> always surprises ..partials down at 4714 mtr
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[14:35] <garymortimer> I think I would find high ground near Uttoxeter
[14:38] <jakeio> Heading just south of there garymortimer
[14:39] <garymortimer> Remember left at low level
[14:42] <garymortimer> Best of luck, I look forward to seeing a trace from you sonn ;-)
[14:42] <garymortimer> soon
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[14:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W9MOK-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W9MOK-2
[14:59] <garymortimer> I'd like it to be in Hamstall Ridware, just because its an excellent name
[15:06] <jakeio> That is a good name...
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[15:17] <jakeio> Just arriving at newborough
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[15:36] <jakeio> Hello, arriving at uttoxeter.
[15:41] <jakeio> Argh, what should i do now?
[15:43] <garymortimer> Can you hear it on the wireless??
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[15:44] <jakeio> Hello.
[15:44] <VE3OYN> Good morning
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[15:45] <VE3OYN> Ques: on Habhub map, I take it blue circle is radio horizon. What is green circle?
[15:45] <fsphil> the 5 degree line
[15:46] <VE3OYN> Elev greater than 5 degree?
[15:47] <edmoore> >=
[15:47] <edmoore> if within the green circle
[15:47] <VE3OYN> OK Thanks.
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[16:05] <jakeio> Hello, can anyone offer me and advice?
[16:07] <daveake> OK, well I ran a prediction from last position, with a landing speed of 4m/s, and that says east of Abbots Brolmey
[16:07] <jakeio> I'm heading there now.
[16:07] <daveake> Have you at any time since landing heard a signal ?
[16:07] <jakeio> Not that I know.
[16:07] <daveake> OK
[16:08] <daveake> And do you have a yagi ?
[16:08] <jakeio> Yes, my coathangar one.
[16:08] <daveake> Was 434 rtty still working during flight?
[16:08] <jakeio> Just stopped at Uttoxeter and got nothing.
[16:08] <daveake> As the last position on that is very very high
[16:08] <daveake> Implying it stopped
[16:09] <jakeio> Well, I am sure I could still detect faint signal shifting for about 30 mins after last position.
[16:09] <jakeio> Just weak signal what with no ground plane etc.
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[16:12] <jakeio> On our way to Abbots Bromle arriving in 7:30.
[16:12] <daveake> Look for a hill when you get there
[16:13] <daveake> You need to be to the east
[16:14] <SpeedEvil> 'ware the balrog.
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[16:27] <Hix> Can anyone remember if there was a cure for the dreaded avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding on OS X? I've tried FTDI and USBAsp now and neither are giving me any joy. Spent two days trying to find cures online, to no avail.
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[16:39] <Rharrison_> Upu, delivery :-)
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[16:44] <jakeio> Right. Might have q faint signal.
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[16:47] <jakeio> Nope.
[16:48] <jakeio> I think SKIPI is lost, any final advice?
[16:49] <daveake> Well this is the prediction I ran form the last position http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=a25652c6290cc03069c8d0f7af8ce059d9e539d8
[16:50] <daveake> All you can do really is drive the roads around there, looking for high points where you can connect the yagi and see if you can get something
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[17:01] <jakeio> FOUND IT.
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[17:01] <garymortimer> excellent
[17:02] <garymortimer> Not far from hamstall....
[17:03] <daveake> Great that looks easy to get to from the road
[17:05] <jakeio> Heading to landing now.
[17:05] <jakeio> Phew.
[17:05] <jakeio> Stress over.
[17:06] <daveake> :)
[17:07] <garymortimer> I think you should retire to http://theshoulderofmuttoninn.co.uk/ to tell us what Hamstall Ridware is all about
[17:07] <garymortimer> once you have got it obviously
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[17:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7NMO-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7NMO-11
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[17:22] <jakeio> Hello! I'm holding a SKIPI with so many stored images! Woop woop!
[17:23] <daveake> woo
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[17:24] <jakeio> Did I miss a message?
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[17:25] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> no
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[17:27] <garymortimer> Fantastic, well done
[17:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DK0FR-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DK0FR-11
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[17:40] <KG7WPQ> Is anybody watching KG7NMO-11 right now?
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[17:41] <KG7WPQ> Trying to find out which repeater / reflector that team is operating on
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[17:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BLACKOPS_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BLACKOPS_chase
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[18:24] <Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv_Dgt-6Frg
[18:24] <Laurenceb__> hydrogen airships here we come
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[18:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[18:48] <Rharrison_> anyone recomend a reflow oven ?
[18:48] <Rharrison_> Thinking in the 100-400 pound range?
[18:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KK4IAW-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK4IAW-1
[18:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8ELK-1 after 0314 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
[18:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KK4IAW-1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK4IAW-1_chase
[19:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-1 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
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[19:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD2EAT-8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2EAT-8
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[20:14] <jakeio> Just downloaded SKIPI images: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/27ot48c33ebfj7f/AAAkW19HloDPjEqWO2wmLetpa?dl=0
[20:14] <jakeio> :D
[20:17] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> :) Look good!
[20:17] <Upu> congrats jakeio
[20:18] <daveake> Same of those need deleting :p
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[20:24] <jakeio> Oh, yeah... I'll do that...
[20:27] <jakeio> Fixed the no image error in like 1 line. Not sure I'm willing to admit the fault.
[20:27] <daveake> I was j/k
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[20:37] <Upu> its alien dave again https://www.dropbox.com/sh/27ot48c33ebfj7f/AAAkW19HloDPjEqWO2wmLetpa?dl=0&preview=1472294775.jpg
[20:38] <Upu> if you launch again jakeio let me know and I'll lend you a backup tracker if you want
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[20:42] <jakeio> Thanks Upu! Although next time I'll probably fly SKIPI 1 in an egg with a proper antenna as a backup, as I know it works consistently, this time the signal was awful though due to my less than ideal configuration.
[20:42] <jakeio> As I'm sure will always be the case, plenty to learn.
[20:42] <daveake> 66 down still learning
[20:43] <jakeio> Well, next time - working live images -_- third time lucky...
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[20:43] <Upu> Got some pics of the payload ?
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[20:57] <Upu> oh and jakeio http://i.imgur.com/QRe37Yu.gif
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[21:04] <fsphil> .confetti
[21:04] <SpacenearUS> 2´*.D¨¯`* 2D*¨¯`* 2
[21:04] <SpacenearUS> 2´ *. Congratulations 2 ¯`*
[21:04] <SpacenearUS> ¨¯`*D2´* 2.D *¨¯`*2
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[21:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE6ATV-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE6ATV-11
[21:48] <jakeio> Ah, pics of the payload, I'll post some tomorrow Upu, they're on various people's phones...
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[22:51] <M0RJX> a quick question on crystal
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[22:52] <M0RJX> s if the say 18PF should that be the size of the cap? or should I go with 27PF as per the atmega example
[22:53] <M0RJX> a quick question on crystals if the specs say 18PF should that be the size of the cap? or should I go with 27PF as per the atmega example
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[23:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[23:20] <DL7AD1> the solar balloon has been recovered.
[23:20] <DL7AD1> with all its payloads
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[23:21] <M0RJX> yay
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[23:53] <SpeedEvil> ;
[23:53] <SpeedEvil> )
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