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[04:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5KMP-6 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-6
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[06:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[06:54] <pb0ahx> flights
[06:54] <pb0ahx> !flights
[06:54] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03UBSEDS18 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(64a5), 03DIXON 10(dafa)
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[07:50] <PE2BZ> M0RJX Good Morning, available for a question ?
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[07:55] <PE2BZ> the lora-gateway version at https://github.com/rharrison/lora-gateway seems not to work over here. It starts, shows 2 RX windows and exits back to the shell
[08:06] <daveake> If it helps, does the same here
[08:07] <daveake> ping M0RJX
[08:11] <daveake> Well, grab Rob when he's fed up of actual surfing :-)
[08:16] <PE2BZ> If he has our weather it will take a while ;-)
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[08:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03TT7F after 039 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TT7F
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[09:25] <M0RJX> pong daveake
[09:25] <M0RJX> ping PE2BZ
[09:26] <daveake> Hi Rob. See above. Current gateway in your git repo is closing after the "Starting ... " message
[09:26] <M0RJX> ok will have a look probably because ssdv.bin is not there
[09:27] <M0RJX> and its looking for it
[09:27] <M0RJX> touch ssdv.bin in the dir
[09:27] <daveake> Should need an ssdv.bin
[09:27] <daveake> ^ Shouldn't
[09:27] <M0RJX> that was for testing so i didint put any helpfull checking on it !
[09:28] <daveake> ah right
[09:28] <M0RJX> Just going to finish off as the read from the pipe is blocking untill the pareant process quits so the last <50 packets wont get sent until you quit the gateway which is not right
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[09:30] <M0RJX> Give me an hour or two and I will have it working with a debug flag which iff set will also send data from a file
[09:32] <daveake> No hurry - busy with work today
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[09:38] <PE2BZ> M0JRX me no hurry either :-) 31 degrees and rising :-) But no work today and tomorrow :-)
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[09:43] <PE2BZ> M0JRX there is a calculation error in either the tracker of the gateway (does not harm, but I noticed) if for example 160 packets are being sent the gateway replies ¨receiving 0 of 160 ¨ up to ¨receiving 159 of 160¨ but never gets packet 160 because it started with 0 instead of 1
[09:44] <daveake> The SSDV packet numbers do start at zero, and that's what it's reporting
[09:44] <daveake> Granted it could do a +1 for display purposes
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[09:53] <PE2BZ> +1 for the +1 :-)
[09:55] <daveake> :)
[09:56] <daveake> Once Rob's done and we've all had a chance to test it further, I have a bunch of minor mods to do so I'll +1 your +1
[09:57] <gonzo__> would that be +3, or 1+2j
[09:58] <PE2BZ> gonzo___ please .... I am 30 years after schooltime ;-)
[09:59] <PE2BZ> I calculate radials but only for antennas :-)
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[10:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DIXON - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DIXON
[10:05] <gonzo__> hehe. Me too. I'm dreading my daughter starting to ask me A level maths questions. As i'm buggered if I could remember how to differentiate or integratethese days
[10:06] <daveake> I'd have that fear, but skillfully avoided it by not having children
[10:06] <gonzo__> not been so skillful!
[10:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-3 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-3
[10:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NAILBRUSH after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NAILBRUSH
[10:08] <gonzo__> I did dig out what I thought were my A level books. But turned out to be uni ones. A quick flik through, I didn't recognise anything!
[10:08] <daveake> DIXON will need a bit more gas than usual http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=ebc6e745a4510b1178dd31da42ef78745564307e
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[10:11] <AndyEsser> gonzo__: I bought my A-Level maths books the other month
[10:11] <AndyEsser> to get back up to speed
[10:11] <AndyEsser> What other A-Levels is she doing?
[10:12] <PE2BZ> My 14,5 year old son collected schoolbooks for 3th year. I like the pages with transistors, resistors and leds !
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[10:17] <M0RJX> daveake, there is a slight problem with blocking at 1000 packets a second
[10:18] <mfa298> daveake: they'd better get it back after all the effort yesterday to try and get an accurate payload doc on it
[10:18] <M0RJX> Basically the pipe can't be processed quick enough for telem.
[10:18] <M0RJX> The ssdv packets are fine at 1000 Hz due to the bulk upload
[10:18] <daveake> Do we envisage a use case that requires 1000 telemetry updates per second? :)
[10:19] <M0RJX> If we do we need to a) stop making balistic missiles b) change habitat to take multiple telem packets
[10:19] <fsphil> I think it's safe to start dropping telemetry at that point
[10:20] <M0RJX> ssdv is fine as we bunch up at 50 per post at spped
[10:21] <M0RJX> fsphil, I'm keeping count of the packets to read in shared vars between the proces and only reading if there is data there
[10:21] <M0RJX> Better than poll and the consumer only reads the var so no need to locl
[10:21] <M0RJX> lock
[10:24] <gonzo__> AndyEsser, maths, checm, biology and an option on psycology
[10:25] <AndyEsser> smart lass then
[10:25] <AndyEsser> must get it from her mother :P
[10:29] <gonzo__> on an open forum, I'm saying nothing!
[10:30] <gonzo__> she need to get a good job and keep me in the manner that I'd like to become accustomed
[10:30] <gonzo__> though actually, that would be a rough cabin in the woods. So I'm quite cheap.
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[10:39] <fsphil> poor internet in the woods. and wales.
[10:42] <gonzo__> that is true. I was going to say that the days of retiring to become a hermit is a long way off and things may have improved. But that is prob not the case!
[10:43] <gonzo__> though with pensions etc, we'll probably still be working well into our 70'a
[10:43] <gonzo__> s
[10:47] <M0RJX> the gateway will crash after 4294967295 packets of ssdv problem or should I use an unsigned long long
[10:47] <M0RJX> which would give 18446744073709551615 packets before collapse
[10:48] <M0RJX> daveake, ^^^^
[10:48] <fsphil> why will it crash?
[10:48] <fsphil> better if it doesn't :)
[10:49] <M0RJX> well the counter for packets sent will rollover and no longer be > packets dealt with
[10:49] <daveake> Is this total packets rcvd, or packets in an image, or what ?
[10:49] <daveake> ok
[10:50] <fsphil> the maths will still work
[10:50] <daveake> so this is the pipe ?
[10:50] <M0RJX> though a quick if total packets < packets then packets = 0 will cure this
[10:50] <daveake> gateways are intended to be left running so best if they do handle this
[10:50] <M0RJX> basically the total packets added to the buffer should not be less than the number process from the buffer
[10:51] <fsphil> addition and subtraction work fine around the overflow point
[10:51] <PE2BZ> !flights
[10:51] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03UBSEDS18 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(64a5), 03DIXON 10(dafa)
[10:51] <PE2BZ> !dial dixon
[10:51] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03DIXON 10(dafa): 03434.44941 MHz, 434.450663 MHz, 434.451124 MHz, 434.6116 MHz, 434.45074 MHz
[10:51] <fsphil> for unsigned integers at least
[10:52] <M0RJX> I'll use a char to test 256 packet rollover.
[10:52] <fsphil> yeah worth testing, but if it's just used for counting then it should be fine
[10:53] <fsphil> *the result variable must be the same type too
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[10:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> I can understand wanting the total count during testing, but during operation surely only a count of those outstanding is needed?
[10:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> That should obviously go to zero frequently ?
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[11:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[11:20] <Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/lng7QpN.jpg
[11:28] <AndyEsser> gah! I hate writing SQL by hand
[11:28] <AndyEsser> I hate mysql
[11:28] <AndyEsser> :(
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[11:31] <fsphil> better than using a horrible query designer
[11:32] <AndyEsser> http://pastebin.com/stGgMjfR
[11:32] <AndyEsser> "oreign key constraint failed. There is no index in the referenced table where the referenced columns appear as the first columns."
[11:32] <AndyEsser> grr
[11:32] <AndyEsser> liar
[11:34] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser within a few years you´ll manage to end disputes with the sentance ¨You´re right darling¨ ;-)
[11:36] <AndyEsser> lol
[11:36] <AndyEsser> been there before
[11:36] <AndyEsser> currently enjoying the peaceful years :P
[11:36] <PE2BZ> Enjoy !
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[11:41] <gonzo__> thought yoiu were talking about being submissive to sql!
[11:48] <AndyEsser> gonzo__: do I look like a Sub to you?
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[11:52] <gonzo__> I'm pretty sure that compilers are female. So sql engines must be similar
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[11:59] <Ian_> is that some form of xenophobia with foreign keys in SQL that you are having.
[11:59] <Ian_> ?
[12:02] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ5RZP-11 after 0312 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ5RZP-11
[12:07] <AndyEsser> Ian_: hmm?
[12:10] <Ian_> I keep seeing Warriors with different types of backs on them everywhere I drive these days. Yesterday it was an Ifor Williams model with a grill on the back and a big Labrador happy with it's travel arrangements watching the traffic
[12:12] <AndyEsser> can't wait to get my Warriro
[12:13] <AndyEsser> ha
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[12:36] <Laurenceb> oops
[12:36] <Laurenceb> http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/583415-airlander-mishap.html
[12:37] <LazyLeopard> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-37174417
[12:39] <Laurenceb> wonder if it was control software, pilot error or something else
[12:40] <edmoore> it was that one
[12:40] <russss> video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg-RPTiVa_Q
[12:40] <Laurenceb> looks like someone reversed control inputs lol
[12:41] <russss> it does look like a control issue to me
[12:41] <Laurenceb> well you would be v dead doing the same with a cargo plane or helicopter
[12:41] <russss> true
[12:42] <Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3lbKqStvHI
[12:42] <SIbot3> In real units: 3 lbs = 1.4 kg
[12:43] <fsphil> metrictube
[12:43] <Laurenceb> heh they literally wired it in reverse there
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[13:22] <mattbrejza> im sure this will end well https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bioring-the-personal-trainer-on-your-finger-fitness-gadget#/
[13:24] <Laurenceb> what the heck
[13:25] <Laurenceb> literally no aspect of that is feasible
[13:25] <Laurenceb> tbh I'm also very sceptical of the whole microbes from space thing
[13:26] <Laurenceb> Occams razor etc
[13:28] <gonzo__> as i recall someone used the phrase recently 'standing waves in bullshit'
[13:28] <Laurenceb> *is ?
[13:29] <gonzo__> getting half a million dollars for tfree, is feasable
[13:29] <nick_> Sometimes I think I'd make more money if I became a professional kickstarter person.
[13:29] <nick_> But probably my graphic design skills aren't good enough.
[13:38] <Laurenceb> actually I'm sceptical about airlander too
[13:38] <Laurenceb> it need to be bigger, much bigger
[13:39] <daveake> If HHGTTG was written now. there'd be an ARC-D dedicated to dodgy Indiegogo and KS bullshitters
[13:39] <Laurenceb> airships get more and more useful and efficient as size increases
[13:39] <Laurenceb> a hydrogen filled airship a few times the size of a container ship could carry the same cargo at 90mph with the same engine
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[13:40] <nick_> And survive considerably more bullet holes.
[13:41] <AndyEsser> Laurenceb: build one then :P
[13:41] <gonzo__> the marketting dept of the cirius cybernetics corp
[13:42] <gonzo__> (diod they survive the bullet holes also?)
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[13:49] <Laurenceb> AndyEsser: I think thats the problem
[13:49] <Laurenceb> they dont scale down well, so entry level is very hard
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[14:12] <Laurenceb> lol the comments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg-RPTiVa_Q
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[14:20] <Laurenceb> re last night http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/24/false_northern_lights_alert_issued_to_entire_uk_caused_by_lawnmower/
[14:20] <Laurenceb> Surely we all know the amazing ability of lawnmower man to interfere with computer systems
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[14:33] <jakeio> Out of interest, what ascent rate is too slow?
[14:33] <number10> zero probably
[14:34] <jakeio> ...
[14:34] <number10> sorry
[14:34] <number10> I couldnt resist
[14:34] <jakeio> I can see how that would be tempting...
[14:34] <PE2BZ> Because your twice as smart as number 5 ?
[14:35] <number10> I doubt it PE2BZ
[14:35] <PE2BZ> jakeio ¨to slow¨ for what reason ?
[14:35] <Laurenceb> sqrt(-1) would clearly be doing it wrong
[14:35] <PE2BZ> number10 needs more input
[14:35] <jakeio> Too slow as in, unlikely to burst, potential floater.
[14:36] <PE2BZ> Stupid me should have read...Ascent - not descent
[14:36] <jakeio> Laurenceb, if you get an ascent rate of i, you'll change the world.
[14:37] <PE2BZ> A flight from Craag ascended to slow and was ¨held¨ in the frozen clouds around 5600 meter if I remember right. That flight therefore did not reach our west coast here in Holland and ended up in the Northsea
[14:37] <jakeio> Is that the one that eventually did reach the west coast in Holland, just very moist.
[14:37] <jakeio> :P
[14:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-12 after 038 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-12
[14:38] <number10> if you want to avoid floating aim for about 5 m/s
[14:38] <M0RJX> nearly there been working for the last two hours on a painful bug. Basically the habitat.c need to do a LogMessage to exit and I there is a mutex lock in there which would suggest to me that it's locked for some reason
[14:38] <PE2BZ> Indeed, ended at an Island, Terschelling.
[14:39] <PE2BZ> M0RJX I appreciate your work a lot, but I have no clue about ¨mutex lock¨ :-(
[14:40] <fsphil> M0RJX: dude, you're on holiday :p
[14:40] <M0RJX> Sorry that was for daveake ^^^^^
[14:40] <PE2BZ> jakeio I try to find back the flight to see it´s track and ascend speed
[14:41] <PE2BZ> fsphil do you remember the date in July for the Gilwell24 flight ?
[14:41] <jakeio> I'd also like to know what descent rate is too slow? daveake pointed out that the parachute could be overtaken by the balloon remnants and get tangled.
[14:41] <daveake> Yes that's to protect ncurses iirc
[14:41] <M0RJX> fsphil, I'm enjoying myself Plus I seem to have some acid reflux problem at the moment which means I cant do any exercise or walking so I'm a bit house bound :-( Need to have a GI investigation when I get back and see whats going on in my ospophagus
[14:42] <fsphil> urg
[14:42] <fsphil> fixing bugs while down with a bug
[14:42] <jakeio> That's almost poetic.
[14:42] <daveake> red wine does that for me
[14:42] <daveake> or eating late
[14:42] <number10> what brings you back to have M0RJX
[14:42] <number10> HAB
[14:43] <daveake> he's on holiday and is bored :)
[14:43] <number10> lol
[14:44] <M0RJX> jakeio, I used to have a rule of thirds to prevent this. Basically put the chute i/3 of the line length from the payload. Then if the balloon comes fo the ride it will reast 1/2 way between the chute and the payload
[14:44] <M0RJX> number10, work and kids got in the way for a while and I love the challenge of hab
[14:45] <jakeio> Thanks M0RJX. I was just asking because I'm reusing the parachute from my last flight and it's a little larger as the payload was heavier last time.
[14:45] <M0RJX> chute 1/3 of the line length from the balloon
[14:45] <M0RJX> 2/3 from the payload
[14:46] <M0RJX> then when it folds at th 2/3 point you end wup with the ballon at 1/2 of the remaining line lenght
[14:46] <M0RJX> above the payload
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[14:46] <M0RJX> balloon in the old days came back on 50% of launches
[14:47] <jakeio> I got a bit of squidgy mess back on my last flight.
[14:47] <M0RJX> It depends housw it bursts. Often it just rips at the side and 80% comes back
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[14:47] <M0RJX> the best is when it goes at the neck and only that comes back
[14:48] <daveake> I've had neck-only, up to 2/3rds of the balloon.
[14:48] <M0RJX> And it stinks when it comes back!!!
[14:48] <daveake> Hopefully whatever's left dangles above the chute but if it does come down you don't want it hitting your payload
[14:49] <daveake> You also don't want it spinning round the parachute, but that does happen
[14:49] <M0RJX> I hate the smell..
[14:49] <daveake> The smell of success
[14:49] <daveake> But yeah take a carrier bag in the chase car :)
[14:49] <M0RJX> daveake, see rule of 1/s's above
[14:49] <daveake> I know
[14:49] <M0RJX> 1/3
[14:49] <daveake> Still doesn't stop the balloon+chute getting together
[14:49] <M0RJX> nope :-)
[14:49] <daveake> that's what jakeio was asking about
[14:50] <M0RJX> thats when you get into cutdowns
[14:50] <daveake> yup
[14:50] <jakeio> So, is a descent rate of 3.51 m/s too slow?
[14:50] <M0RJX> tbh the ballon gives enough drag on most payloads to contribute to slowing it down
[14:51] <M0RJX> obv parachute need if balloon bursts cleanluy
[14:51] <M0RJX> jakeio, depends who's head it hits.
[14:52] <jakeio> Well, I was aiming not to hit anybody's head, but I mean if I have to choose...
[14:53] <M0RJX> it's about right. up at 5 down at 3 sounds good to me
[14:53] <M0RJX> 5 or <
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[14:58] <Upu> hey Rob
[14:58] <Upu> I'll get the transmitter on when I get home
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[15:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-17 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-17
[15:06] <edmoore> Upu says that to all the girls
[15:08] <craag> PE2BZ: that one was ~1.2m/s ascent
[15:08] <craag> with a 100g latex
[15:08] <craag> not recommended for the faint hearted!
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[15:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03REGGIE after 0321 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=REGGIE
[15:35] <daveake> I wonder how DIXON got on https://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=9&qm=All&f=DIXON&q=DIXON
[15:38] <daveake> If I put that position into the predictor for now it's fine
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[15:51] <M0RJX> daveake, do you have a preference for tab size?
[15:51] <daveake> 4
[15:52] <M0RJX> cool
[15:56] <AndyEsser> http://pastebin.com/gxqYyxNC
[15:56] <AndyEsser> could somebody sanity check this and tell me I have the right number of columns vs values?
[15:56] <AndyEsser> I'm going insane
[15:57] <AndyEsser> GAH!!!!
[15:57] <AndyEsser> nvm
[16:02] <nick_> AndyEsser: use more lines.
[16:02] <nick_> Lines are free
[16:02] <craag> [MySQL]
[16:02] <craag> ^^ found the problem
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[16:04] <AndyEsser> nick_: fully agree
[16:04] <AndyEsser> this was someone elses code
[16:04] <AndyEsser> and if I go through and put newlines after each column, it'll fail PR
[16:04] <AndyEsser> because of retards
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[16:07] <nick_> PR?
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[16:13] <Ian_> print that bit on paper and strike them off as pairs in the column and values, checking that they match in sanity and obviously you have no spares.
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[16:17] <Ian_> Do the ':' in the values indicate that they come from a screen form? Presumably the code 'works' as it is. I was an Ingres application programmer :)
[16:18] <Ian_> As nick_ says what is PR?
[16:18] <Ian_> I would have not put returns after each, but would have grouped them 5 to a line maybe, cos I like things neat.
[16:19] <craag> Pull Request I guess
[16:19] <Ian_> Just looked at the time . . . imagines the race for the company car park
[16:20] <Ian_> Thanks craag.
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[16:46] <PE2BZ> craag thanks for info. That was indeed what I would not recommend to jakeio ;-)
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[16:50] <Laurenceb> anyone here familiar with bluetooth devices under ubuntu?
[16:51] <Laurenceb> I'm trying to connect to a bluetooth module (serial device), and the ubuntu bluetooth manager is grabbing the /dev/rfcomm<x>
[16:51] <Laurenceb> so I cant open a terminal
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[16:54] <miek> Laurenceb: it could be modemmanager
[16:56] <Laurenceb> hmm
[16:56] <Laurenceb> well its showing as connected in blueman
[16:57] <Laurenceb> this is perplexing
[16:58] <Laurenceb> bind /dev/rfcomm<x> followed by screen /dev/rfcomm<x> fails as the device could not be opened (R/W blocked)
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[17:11] <Laurenceb> rfcomm13: 00:06:66:80:95:37 channel 1 closed
[17:11] <Laurenceb> unlucky port
[17:11] <Laurenceb> wonder what closed means?
[17:13] <M0RJX> ping daveake
[17:13] <M0RJX> do you mind if i move gateway.txt to gateway.cfg
[17:13] <M0RJX> then git ignor *.txt
[17:16] <fsphil> there is already gateway-sample.txt
[17:16] <M0RJX> I want to change the txt file to a cfg file
[17:16] <M0RJX> as its config ?
[17:17] <M0RJX> mv gateway-sample.txt gateway-sample.cfg
[17:17] <fsphil> that makes sense
[17:17] <M0RJX> :-)
[17:17] <M0RJX> yep done
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[17:25] <M0RJX> This is ready for testing please report problems to me https://github.com/rharrison/lora-gateway.git
[17:26] <M0RJX> daveake, is going to make some changes too now this is almost :-) stable
[17:27] <M0RJX> if you want to upload test data then telem should be in a file called telem.txt and picture data should be in ssdv.bin
[17:32] <M0RJX> who is sampi?
[17:33] <M0RJX> Theu look like a good candidate to test https://github.com/rharrison/lora-gateway.git
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[17:34] <M0RJX> ping Upu
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[17:37] <M0RJX> must be tea time :-)
[17:38] <jakeio> PE2BZ, what would you not recommend to me? :P
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[17:43] <M0RJX> PE2BZ, code ready for testing ^^^
[17:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UPULORA1 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UPULORA1
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[18:00] <Laurenceb> anyone here ever used bluetooth modules under linux?
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[18:01] <M0RJX> any one close to halifax with a lora gateway and fancy some testing
[18:03] <Laurenceb> and experience of maddening Can't create RFCOMM TTY: Address already in use
[18:03] <Laurenceb> insanity
[18:04] Action: Laurenceb ponders grabbing his pc and smashing it through the window
[18:04] Nick change: lz1dev_ -> lz1dev
[18:06] <Laurenceb> screw this, win xp time
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[18:09] <PE2BZ> jakeio to ascend at 1.2 m/s and have your payload proven not waterproof :-)
[18:09] <PE2BZ> M0JRX getting ready in a moment...
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[18:10] <PE2BZ> M0JRX gateway.cfg from now on I assume ?
[18:12] Action: PE2BZ responds to ./gateway not found message with: wait until I have ran make :-)
[18:13] <PE2BZ> M0JRX I have a problem, Houston ! Error writing to the telmetry pipe
[18:16] <PE2BZ> M0JRX and the error seems to appear if Enable habitat=n
[18:17] <PE2BZ> m0rjx I have set it to Y and the gateway works bit fills the log with a lot of 0000000 because of no GPS at work lora
[18:19] <bertrik> we're going to upgrade our hab listening station at revspace, the hague, netherlands, with a lora receiver soonish
[18:21] <PE2BZ> Good evening Bertrik. Raspberry PI based I guess ?
[18:21] <bertrik> yes, we ordered the raspberry pi shield
[18:22] <PE2BZ> What´s the antenna height for revspace ?
[18:22] <bertrik> two stories, I don't know the height exactly, maybe 6 meters
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[18:24] <bertrik> generally the blue circle is a pretty good indicator for reception for us
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[18:36] <antipsychiatry> Hello
[18:39] <PE2BZ> Hi
[18:40] <antipsychiatry> PSYCHIATRY must stop because is a total fraud.
[18:41] <miek> lol
[18:42] <antipsychiatry> Hello miek.PSYCHIATRY is a total fraud and MUST BE ABOLISHED!!!! Please.......visit...... Www.antipsychiatry.org
[18:43] <PE2BZ> M0JRX please also add some spaces at the end of the packet number. The old numbers stay on the screen now , so if I had 177 the next image starts with 177,277,377,477 and so on.
[18:44] <daveake> That's in my list PE2BZ
[18:44] <PE2BZ> daveake thanks.
[18:45] <PE2BZ> I have sent 6 images for test now, but Image keeps displaying 1 and only 2 of the 6 images have reached ssdv.habhub.org ?
[18:45] <daveake> That's one for M0RJX
[18:46] <daveake> The formatting one I'm aware of
[18:46] <PE2BZ> M0RJX I have sent 6 images for test now, but Image keeps displaying 1 and only 2 of the 6 images have reached ssdv.habhub.org ?
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[18:46] <daveake> I like this open-source thing - I get to blame someone else now :)
[18:46] <PE2BZ> LOL !
[18:47] <PE2BZ> daveake the RSSI looks a bit like ADHD (do you know that ?)
[18:48] <PE2BZ> and indeed with enable habitat=N the Error writing to the telmetry pipe jumps in and gateway halts (telmetry is a programmers typo)
[18:50] <PE2BZ> I am going 2 floors down because of the 31 degrees over here. TTU later
[18:50] <PE2BZ> Bye
[18:50] <M0RJX> PE2BZ, Are they different images?
[18:52] <PE2BZ> Yes ! I rotated my camera 6 times, grabbed a fresh image and had it sent. The images which do no show up on habhub do show as ¨received xxx new packets¨ but there is no image on the screen.
[18:53] <M0RJX> daveake, I'll grab those bugs. PE2BZ can you email me the images in bin format
[18:53] <PE2BZ> But if it´s ok for you I am afk for the night. The day started at 04:30 this morning
[18:53] <PE2BZ> Can I do that tomorrow morning ?
[18:53] <M0RJX> ooh ok cool thanks for the help
[18:53] <M0RJX> sure
[18:54] <PE2BZ> Then I am afk for tonight :-) Thanks for your time and support !!
[18:59] <PE2BZ> One short question Rob: your email is at qrz.com ?
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[19:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UBSEDS20 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS20
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[19:12] <Vaizki> ah.. son of UBSEDs
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[19:15] <M0RJX> http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[19:15] <M0RJX> checke these comming in
[19:15] <M0RJX> Youll have to be quick
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[19:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UBSEDS19 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS19
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[19:33] <M0RJX> ping where can i get fsphil's ssdv converter
[19:33] <Vaizki> diagon alley?
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[19:53] <M0RJX> http://ssdv.habhub.org/ :-)
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[20:05] <Upu> hehe
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[20:22] <craag> lol at ssdv.habhub
[20:39] <Upu> we've been messing :)
[20:39] <M0RJX> pinf fsphil
[20:39] <M0RJX> craag, just be testing some changed to the lora-gw
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[20:45] <fsphil> multi-ping </quake 3 announcer>
[20:45] <fsphil> M0RJX: https://github.com/fsphil/ssdv/
[20:45] <daveake> makes a change from pix of my office
[20:46] <fsphil> well that's different
[20:47] <M0RJX> fsphil, I'd like to do an uber test of 250 if these images but you may not want me too
[20:47] <fsphil> fire away. I can always delete them after
[20:47] <fsphil> btw did you use the quality setting for those?
[20:47] <M0RJX> Ok cool i'll gen them and put them all in one file for upload
[20:48] <M0RJX> yep -q 7
[20:48] <fsphil> ah. -q6 and 7 may have a few glitches
[20:48] <M0RJX> I think the original was naff
[20:48] <M0RJX> oh
[20:48] <fsphil> -q0 is lowest
[20:48] <M0RJX> q5
[20:48] <fsphil> if you want to compress it a bit more
[20:48] <M0RJX> or just leave it a def q4
[20:49] <M0RJX> at default
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[21:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-17 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-17
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[21:36] <M0RJX> ping fsphil
[21:37] <M0RJX> If you're still awake
[21:37] <M0RJX> I'm going to kick off a 144MB uload to ssdv
[21:39] <M0RJX> the ssdv server is going to die for a while
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[21:49] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYyhMQzcVlY
[21:49] <M0RJX> 45000 packests so far
[21:49] <SpeedEvil> @24 mins - orbiting climate observer 2 satelite (co2 mapper) - mentioned a sampling technique.
[21:49] <M0RJX> http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[21:50] <SpeedEvil> SImply fly a long coiled tube in a balloon.
[21:50] <SpeedEvil> Air flows out as it goes up, in as it goes down, and you can analyse the profile by just pulling it out
[21:50] <SpeedEvil> Also - video is fascinating on how little we know about global CO2 flows
[21:50] <fsphil> M0RJX: how'd it go?
[21:51] <M0RJX> 50k packets for 21 images
[21:51] <M0RJX> so like 255 -21 to go
[21:51] <M0RJX> a good test of the screen to see if it can handle the values
[21:52] <M0RJX> and your code is working
[21:52] <M0RJX> hard
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[21:58] <M0RJX> tomoorw I'm going to try for 10000 packkets per second
[22:05] <M0RJX> 114234/470730 packets done so far
[22:06] <M0RJX> how big is an int on the pi
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[22:10] <SpeedEvil> depends on your programming language
[22:10] <SpeedEvil> almost certainly 32 bits
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[22:11] <danilo_> hello?
[22:11] <M0RJX> ooh thanks SpeedEvil
[22:11] <M0RJX> c
[22:11] <M0RJX> he danilo_
[22:12] <M0RJX> hey
[22:12] <danilo_> what is this?
[22:13] <M0RJX> All about launching balloons to the edge of space
[22:13] <M0RJX> about 40+ km
[22:14] <danilo_> i do that
[22:14] <M0RJX> see danilo_ se https://ukhas.org.uk/start
[22:14] <danilo_> actually i got 2nd place on GSBC
[22:14] <M0RJX> see
[22:15] <fsphil> * edge of the atmosphere
[22:15] <danilo_> thanks
[22:15] <danilo_> do you guys know gsbc?
[22:15] <M0RJX> https://www.balloonchallenge.org/
[22:15] <M0RJX> ?
[22:16] <fsphil> I'm on the mailing list
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[22:16] <fsphil> oh sorry, I mixed it up with gpsl
[22:16] <M0RJX> Things have moved on i see
[22:17] <danilo_> yeah
[22:17] <M0RJX> Yeah i'm on gpsl
[22:18] <M0RJX> danilo_, how high?
[22:18] <danilo_> 32km
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[22:19] <M0RJX> this is steve randals
[22:19] <M0RJX> 45km
[22:19] <fsphil> insane eh
[22:19] <M0RJX> http://www.arhab.org/
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[22:20] <danilo_> wow
[22:20] <danilo_> who is steve randals?
[22:20] <fsphil> -s
[22:20] <fsphil> steve randal is a long time hab launcher in the UK
[22:20] <M0RJX> You've got a little way to go before get into the records
[22:21] <M0RJX> One of the guys on herer
[22:21] <fsphil> runs a shop selling balloons and chutes called Random Engineering
[22:22] <M0RJX> danilo_, for those hights you just need a tracker and a balloon
[22:22] <danilo_> i study in a huge university in brazil, and my group just launched a balloon
[22:23] <danilo_> it was our first
[22:23] <fsphil> it's good fun
[22:23] <danilo_> yeah it carried a biology experiment
[22:23] <M0RJX> danilo_, something like this sort of size https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63720513/Images/PAVA9/Scan035.jpg
[22:24] <M0RJX> just under 5cm by 1.5cm
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[22:25] <danilo_> we used an UBLOX NEO 6M
[22:25] <M0RJX> nice
[22:25] <danilo_> but our SD card burned
[22:25] <danilo_> we lost the data
[22:25] <M0RJX> oh how
[22:25] <M0RJX> was that in the exp?
[22:25] <M0RJX> ahh as in got nackered
[22:26] <danilo_> it wasn't the main objetive
[22:26] <danilo_> is it possible to use telemetry with the tracker you sent
[22:26] <danilo_> ?
[22:27] <M0RJX> Yep all of them on here do
[22:28] <M0RJX> danilo_, if you go the the bootom of this link there should be some pictures from baloons which were sent back live
[22:28] <M0RJX> I'm just in the middle of testing at the momnet sending 255 pictures so it might be a bit slow
[22:29] <Darkside> lol
[22:29] <M0RJX> http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[22:29] <Darkside> the dog
[22:29] <Darkside> jeez M0RJX
[22:29] <M0RJX> hey Darkside
[22:29] <M0RJX> How you doing
[22:29] <Darkside> put up some pictures from previous launches or something]
[22:29] <Darkside> :P
[22:29] <M0RJX> This is a big test using the maximim image size
[22:30] <Darkside> yeah im planning on sending full res picam images next flight
[22:30] <M0RJX> Just testing my code changes to the lora-gateway
[22:30] <M0RJX> lora?
[22:30] <Darkside> nah
[22:30] <M0RJX> RTTY???
[22:30] <Darkside> custom FSK modem
[22:30] <M0RJX> oooh check u
[22:30] <Darkside> running at 115200 baud
[22:30] <danilo_> wow
[22:30] <Darkside> hopefuly
[22:30] <M0RJX> using the rfm things
[22:30] <danilo_> nice stuff
[22:30] <Darkside> M0RJX: only for TX
[22:30] <Vaizki> not GFSK?
[22:30] <Darkside> RX is SDR based
[22:31] <Darkside> Vaizki: nah...
[22:31] <M0RJX> Cool
[22:31] <Darkside> im not too concerned about bandwidth
[22:31] <Darkside> no restrictions on airborne amateur radio here in australia
[22:31] <M0RJX> Nice in the outback
[22:31] <Darkside> off
[22:31] <Darkside> pff
[22:32] <danilo_> what microcontroller do you guys use?
[22:32] <Darkside> not really the 'outback' around here
[22:32] <Darkside> ok, better get ready for work, just past 8am here
[22:32] <Darkside> cya
[22:32] <Vaizki> cheers
[22:32] <M0RJX> atmega like arduino or raspberry pi's quite common too
[22:32] <M0RJX> Chat soon Darkside
[22:34] <danilo_> nice
[22:34] <danilo_> planning on building my own arduino
[22:34] <craag> or stm32 :)
[22:34] <danilo_> worth it?
[22:35] <danilo_> got an stm l476
[22:35] <craag> l4 are very nice
[22:35] <M0RJX> http://imgur.com/a/HRTC9
[22:36] <M0RJX> danilo_, very poplular on here
[22:36] <craag> looking good M0RJX
[22:38] <danilo_> ssdv nice man
[22:40] <M0RJX> danilo_, http://ssdv.habhub.org/images/2016-08-23--15-33-47-TEST-8C2A.jpeg?u=419
[22:41] <M0RJX> Not sure if this will work but these are the sort of live images which come back
[22:42] <danilo_> here a photo from out probe
[22:42] <danilo_> https://scontent.fplu1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13173246_1727079290906329_2294899581991724517_o.jpg
[22:45] <danilo_> if you want to check out our group
[22:45] <danilo_> https://www.facebook.com/zenitheesc/
[22:46] <M0RJX> nice
[22:46] <M0RJX> Looks big what did it weigh
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[23:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[23:50] <danilo_> i think about 2kg
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