highaltitude.log.20160820

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[04:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DK3SB-13 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DK3SB-13
[05:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE6LAU-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE6LAU-12
[05:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE6LAU-10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE6LAU-10
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[05:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UBSEDS18 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS18
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[06:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-12
[06:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-10
[06:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-11
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[06:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-8
[06:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-7
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[06:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Testla_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Testla_chase
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[07:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-5
[07:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-7
[07:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-4
[07:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-6 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-6
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[07:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-7
[07:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-8
[07:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-9
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[07:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Z82 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Z82
[07:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Z81 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Z81
[07:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Z85 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Z85
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[08:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-11
[08:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-7
[08:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-9
[08:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-12
[08:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-11
[08:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-7
[08:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-11
[08:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-7
[08:02] <Vaizki> ..?
[08:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-12
[08:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-11
[08:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-13
[08:03] <lz1dev> lul
[08:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-14
[08:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-7
[08:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-12
[08:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-11
[08:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-7
[08:04] <Upu> something broken again ?
[08:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-11
[08:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-7
[08:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-8
[08:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-11
[08:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-7
[08:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-8
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[08:15] <BubUK> thats a lot of vehicles
[08:20] <craag> cm13g09: laggy pong
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[08:24] <PE2BZ> BubUK did it fall apart in a lot of separate trackers after burst ?
[08:26] <M0RJX> ping Upu
[08:28] <cm13g09> craag: It's OK - sorted now
[08:28] <craag> got your text about the pliers at ~4am this morning, figured there was an implicit ttl ;)
[08:28] <cm13g09> craag: How much blender do you know?
[08:28] <craag> none
[08:28] <cm13g09> on a different note?
[08:28] <cm13g09> hah
[08:29] <cm13g09> fair enough
[08:29] <cm13g09> I'm trying to subtract one object from another.
[08:29] <cm13g09> it's not going well
[08:29] <lz1dev> just do it
[08:29] <cm13g09> lz1dev: eh?
[08:29] <craag> heh
[08:30] <lz1dev> follow your dreams
[08:31] <cm13g09> I seem to get the inverse result of what I expect....
[08:35] <cm13g09> AHA
[08:35] <cm13g09> that took a bit of "that's not obvious" to find out
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[08:36] <cm13g09> craag: Note to self: When you want to subtract two objects, using a boolean operator in Blender, you must hide the object you are using on the operator....
[08:37] <M0RJX> Upu when you wake up I've messaged you a little request on your phone
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[08:37] Action: lz1dev braces
[08:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03zelmemesser_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=zelmemesser_chase
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[08:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03teliaz83_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=teliaz83_chase
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[08:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TeliaLatvija_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TeliaLatvija_chase
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[09:31] <cm13g09> mfa298: the question this morning....
[09:31] <cm13g09> will it blend?
[09:32] <cm13g09> or now I've done that bit...
[09:32] <cm13g09> will it print?
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[09:45] <AndyEsser> what does the IoA mean in the ukhas conference logo?
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[09:46] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Institute Of Astronomy ? Where its being held ...
[09:47] <AndyEsser> that would make sense....
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[09:51] <UT3BW> test
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[09:52] <UT3BW> problem https://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=5&qm=1_day&f=UBSEDS18 ???
[09:55] <PE2BZ> UT3BW Is your question what it´s transmitting ?
[09:56] <PE2BZ> !payload UBSEDS18
[09:56] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03UBSEDS18 10(64a5) 03$$UBSEDS18 - no transmissions
[09:56] <UT3BW> $$UBSEDS18,09:55:36,160820,47.2401,24.0905,13037,6,4.21,-37.5,4.8,0,0*FC5F
[09:57] <UT3BW> $$UBSEDS18,09:56:41,160820,47.2382,24.0978,13039,5,4.21,-35.0,3.4,0,0*8A93
[09:58] <PE2BZ> Looks good to me !
[09:59] <UT3BW> I rcv $$UBSEDS18,09:58:50,160820,47.2340,24.1123,13034,5,4.22,-32.7,5.6,0,0*9801
[10:00] <lz1dev> are you uploading?
[10:00] <PE2BZ> He was the last one uploading 1 hour ago ?
[10:00] <UT3BW> 434.609,1
[10:01] <UT3BW> I rcv non-stop
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[10:01] <UT3BW> Problem from server
[10:01] <UT3BW> $$UBSEDS18,10:00:59,160820,47.2301,24.1264,13060,7,4.21,-32.9,6.1,0,0*A7F7
[10:02] <PE2BZ> Ok ! I will send a message about not updating the server since over one hour
[10:02] <fsphil> any good astronomy stuff to see when we are at cambridge?
[10:02] <UT3BW> Yess
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[10:03] <UT3BW> $$UBSEDS18,10:03:08,160820,47.2257,24.1408,13071,7,4.22,-38.3,1.6,0,0*3D32
[10:04] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> The data is on the Log-tail but not making it to the tracker it would seem
[10:05] <PE2BZ> UT3BW I made an ¨issue¨ on the tracker github page. Thanks for reporting !
[10:06] <PE2BZ> Geoff-G8DHE-Lap where do you find the Log-tail ?
[10:06] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> [2016-08-20 10:03:33,325] INFO habitat.parser MainThread: Parsing [ascii] '$$UBSEDS18,10:03:08,160820,47.2257,24.1408,13071,7,4.22,-38.3,1.6,0,0*3D32\n' (f0f317249cb84c90dee0bf391cc244df3bc5186fa1546ffba3aa5095f030e023) from UT3BW
[10:06] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> [2016-08-20 10:03:01,415] INFO habitat.parser MainThread: All attempts to parse failed
[10:06] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/
[10:06] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Its failing the parser for some reason hence not being displayed
[10:06] <PE2BZ> Now that´s realtime log :-)
[10:07] <PE2BZ> So no flights at all get updated ?
[10:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> They have been having problems lz1dev Ping
[10:07] <cm13g09> mfa298: fancy looking after a 3D printer for 20-30 mins when I go on lunch?
[10:08] <UT3BW> $$UBSEDS18,10:06:22,160820,47.2198,24.1619,13060,8,4.23,-31.3,4.1,0,0*36D2
[10:09] <UT3BW> distance 233.2km dearing 211,3*
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[10:10] <UT3BW> $$UBSEDS18,10:09:35,160820,47.2135,24.1827,13059,8,4.23,-33.0,6.3,0,0*9FDD
[10:11] <UT3BW> $$UBSEDS18,10:10:40,160820,47.2115,24.1894,13064,7,4.23,-36.5,5.6,0,0*D80B
[10:12] Nick change: murb_ -> murb
[10:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Z84 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Z84
[10:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Z82 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Z82
[10:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Z83 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Z83
[10:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03zinoo_ap_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=zinoo_ap_chase
[10:13] <UT3BW> $$UBSEDS18,10:12:48,160820,47.2073,24.2027,13063,6,4.22,-33.1,5.4,0,0*731D
[10:14] <M0RJX> daveake, If your about how about we do a test tonight for the lora-gateway testing telem upload only
[10:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-11
[10:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Z81 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Z81
[10:14] <UT3BW> up
[10:14] <M0RJX> Please ignore NAILBRUSH today as it is part of ongoing testing of lora-gateway
[10:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-7
[10:15] <fsphil> how's it going M0RJX?
[10:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F1TUV-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TUV-12
[10:16] <PE2BZ> UT3BW thanks for reporting !
[10:16] <M0RJX> fsphil, cool actually I wanted to have a quick chat with you
[10:16] <fsphil> uh-oh, it wasn't me honest
[10:17] <UT3BW> agn problems
[10:17] <UT3BW> $$UBSEDS18,10:14:57,160820,47.2033,24.2159,13047,7,4.23,-32.5,4.8,0,0*CB63
[10:17] <M0RJX> I want to create a copy of the SSDV server is that possible?
[10:17] <M0RJX> lol
[10:17] <fsphil> it is. there's some database setup needed
[10:18] <M0RJX> I have a spare server at work I could chuck it on
[10:18] <M0RJX> couch or mysql
[10:18] <fsphil> postgresql
[10:18] <M0RJX> ooh oldschool
[10:18] <fsphil> nah, goodschool
[10:18] <M0RJX> lol cool I'm sure I can do that
[10:18] <UT3BW> up
[10:19] <M0RJX> esp if you could dump some of the tables to a file
[10:19] <M0RJX> mysqldump 4 postgress?
[10:19] <fsphil> I could probably dump the lot. it's probably not *that* big a database
[10:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IZMkomanda_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IZMkomanda_chase
[10:19] <fsphil> let me see
[10:20] <M0RJX> That way I can hack and piss about with out annoying anyone
[10:21] <fsphil> you'll need php too, and the ssdv binary
[10:21] <lz1dev> .ping UBSEDS18
[10:21] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Last contact with 03UBSEDS18 was 03a minute ago
[10:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IZMkomanda2_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IZMkomanda2_chase
[10:24] <M0RJX> fsphil, easy :-)
[10:25] <M0RJX> fsphil, the other question was will your jpeg to ssdv teke most normal jpegs or do I need to use some special seting / preprocess the jpeg
[10:25] <M0RJX> tehe take
[10:26] <M0RJX> daveake, Any chance of pulling your multi packet code to my branch?
[10:27] <fsphil> generally most, the main restriction being the dimensions must be divisible by 16 and not a progressive jpeg
[10:27] <AndyEsser> M0RJX: postgres = oldschool?!?!?!
[10:28] <fsphil> lol, was wondering when someone was going to comment on that :)
[10:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PILOT_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PILOT_chase
[10:28] <M0RJX> AndyEsser, I used it at uni 25 years ago = oldschool in my books
[10:28] <AndyEsser> Having had to go back to mysql from postgresql for this current job, I really miss it
[10:29] <AndyEsser> M0RJX: computers existed that long ago?! :P
[10:29] <M0RJX> posgress was the big daddy to mysql in the day. One a real db the other well
[10:29] <AndyEsser> That's basically still how I see it
[10:29] <M0RJX> AndyEsser, :-)
[10:29] <AndyEsser> mysql is the toy db used for wordpress installs
[10:29] <AndyEsser> postgres is basically Oracle Lite
[10:29] <AndyEsser> and Oracle is often held up as a "good" database
[10:29] <M0RJX> Yeh though I see orical now own mysql
[10:29] <craag> +1 only use for mysql is wordpress :P
[10:30] <AndyEsser> :)
[10:30] <AndyEsser> we use it at work, and I f*cking hate it :(
[10:30] <AndyEsser> I want to stealth switch databases over to postgres and see how long it takes DevOps to realise ;)
[10:30] <M0RJX> Opps shit I wrote a whole document mamament system with over 3 million documents in mysql
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[10:30] <M0RJX> It's still working :-)
[10:30] <AndyEsser> same with using Go for our services... switch them one by to one to Java and see how long it takes to notice ;)
[10:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Telia_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Telia_chase
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[10:31] <AndyEsser> however, unlike most people here, I also quite like Couch :P
[10:32] <M0RJX> I don't know anything about it really. Though this must be one of the biggest users of the db?
[10:32] <M0RJX> I say this without any knowledge
[10:32] <fsphil> I like the idea of couchdb
[10:32] <M0RJX> Just not the implementation
[10:32] <AndyEsser> it has some rough edges
[10:34] <M0RJX> fsphil, can I leave you with dumping the db whils I set up the server for postgres apache and php
[10:35] <fsphil> yeah still dumping
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[10:35] <fsphil> shouldn't have run it through xz --best to be honest
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[10:37] <M0RJX> CentOS Linux release 7.2.1511 (Core)
[10:37] <fsphil> that'll do nicely
[10:37] <M0RJX> :-)
[10:37] <AndyEsser> someone at work was trying to suggest CoreOS the other day
[10:37] <M0RJX> Package 2:postfix-2.10.1-6.el7.x86_64 already installed and latest version
[10:37] <M0RJX> :-)
[10:38] <AndyEsser> psotfix?
[10:38] <AndyEsser> postfix*
[10:38] <AndyEsser> not postgres?
[10:38] <craag> postfix: still better than mongodb
[10:38] <M0RJX> opps
[10:38] <fsphil> ssdv via smtp
[10:38] <AndyEsser> craag: haha - just email in the documents?
[10:38] <fsphil> that's not a horrible idea
[10:38] <fsphil> (yes it is)
[10:38] Action: AndyEsser glares at fsphil
[10:39] <craag> yeah - bet it manages to lose less data than mongo :P
[10:39] <cm13g09> craag: Tell me about it
[10:39] <fsphil> ah man, there's a spider on the roof directly above me. guess i'm moving house again
[10:39] <cm13g09> Mongo
[10:39] <cm13g09> bane of my life
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[10:40] <AndyEsser> fsphil: burn it down
[10:40] <craag> previous guy at work put it into the stack just for geospatial queries
[10:40] <cm13g09> craag: It appears I have kicked off a 5hr print job.....
[10:40] <cm13g09> and it needs constant supervision
[10:40] <AndyEsser> craag: friend has been telling me about the postgres geo stuff
[10:40] <craag> all written in postgis now ;)
[10:40] <AndyEsser> sounds pretty awesome and performant
[10:40] <AndyEsser> that's the one
[10:41] Nick change: number10_ -> number10
[10:41] <craag> yeah it's great
[10:42] <M0RJX> Installed:
[10:42] <M0RJX> postgresql.x86_64 0:9.2.15-1.el7_2
[10:42] <M0RJX> Dependency Installed:
[10:42] <M0RJX> postgresql-libs.x86_64 0:9.2.15-1.el7_2
[10:42] <M0RJX> It's too easy these days :-)
[10:42] <M0RJX> fsphil, do you want to scp it to me?
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[11:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JaK-YOLO_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JaK-YOLO_chase
[11:02] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[11:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Volksw_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Volksw_chase
[11:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF5KMP-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-1
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[11:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03elmemesser_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=elmemesser_chase
[11:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03z84_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=z84_chase
[11:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03volkswagen _chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=volkswagen%20_chase
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[12:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G8KHW_2_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G8KHW_2_chase
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[12:24] <jakeio> Would it be OK to run the Pi Zero off of 3 Lithium Energizers in series without a regulator, that would give 4.5v input at full charge. This should work if applied to both the 3.3 and the 5v lines - shouldn't it?
[12:26] <PE2BZ> I guess 3 * Lithium Energizers in new condition start with around 6 V DC. I personally think that´s not good for direct connection.
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[12:29] <jakeio> How would it get up to 6? Doesn't it say 1.5v per cell on the datasheet?
[12:29] <russss> 4.5V on a 3.3V bus is probably out of range for at least some components
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[12:30] <edmoore> jakeio: look at the datasheet http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/l91.pdf
[12:31] <edmoore> 'nominal voltage' is a rough figure. it starts higher and ends lower
[12:31] <edmoore> what you need to look at are the discarge curves at different currents
[12:31] <edmoore> you can see that with a low current the cells are nearer 1.8V when new
[12:32] <edmoore> 3*1.8 = 5.4V. Not 6V, but definitely above what you want to be putting into a 3.3V device
[12:32] <edmoore> my advice is to do it properly
[12:32] <edmoore> if it wants a clean 5V give it a clean 5V, if it wants a clean 3V3 give it a clean 3v3
[12:32] <jakeio> OK, I shall do that. I'll quickly buy a switching regulator from RS!
[12:33] <edmoore> good plan
[12:33] <edmoore> just reduces a class of potential faults and flakey performance
[12:34] <PE2BZ> jakeio I bought a 433 MHz wireless temp sensor with 2 Lithium Energizers and when switched on it was 4.04 Volt. Later the Belgian meteorologic institute started launching the RS-41 radio sondes, wit 2 * Lithium Energizers and when recovered after 8 hours of transmitting the voltage for 2 batteries was still 3.88 Volt when transmitting.
[12:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF5KMP-6 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5KMP-6
[12:40] <jakeio> What sort of input voltage should I be looking for?
[12:40] <jakeio> A range from 4.5 to 32v or something like that?
[12:40] <PE2BZ> jakeio something switching, 3 - 12 V in 5 V out ?
[12:42] <PE2BZ> Chinese ebay ? 2.5 to 6 V in and 5 V out ? http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-DC-DC-Converter-Step-Up-Boost-Module-1A-3V-to-5V-NEW-/252446433345?hash=item3ac6fae041:g:uwAAAOSwrklVG-zq
[12:44] <M0RJX> Upu, can you phone message me when that PITS is up. No rush just install ssdv server on my box
[12:45] <M0RJX> installed
[12:47] <jakeio> Would this suffice? http://uk.farnell.com/maxim-integrated-products/max8815aetb-t/dc-dc-conv-sync-boost-2mhz-tdfn/dp/2514189
[12:53] <jakeio> I can't order that ebay one as I need it to come this week.
[13:02] <AndyEsser> any rules about launching a HAB from an aircraft?
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[13:09] <edmoore> i think aircraft have rules about deploying bits
[13:09] <edmoore> but i think the issues might be technical rather than legal
[13:12] <Laurenceb__> talking of bits falling off
[13:12] <Laurenceb__> amazon should make a cardboard box jdam
[13:13] <Laurenceb__> for their delivery thing
[13:18] <AndyEsser> edmoore: cheers
[13:18] <AndyEsser> not like it would be any time soon - once again just my mind being curious
[13:21] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser only thing I know is that FAAM http://www.faam.ac.uk/index.php every now and the drops sondes from their plane and they all fall with 12 m/s and have one parachute. Their flights when measuring are in the notam´s with either ¨sondes will be dropped¨ or ¨sondes will not be dropped¨
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[13:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Surprise_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Surprise_chase
[13:23] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: cheers
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[13:24] <PE2BZ> jakeio can you handle 5 pins on each side in a 3 x 3 mm housing ?
[13:24] <PE2BZ> The chip will do for what you need.
[13:27] <M0RJX> so I've mananged to change the ownership of .. to me -> drwxr-xr-x. 8 rharrison rharrison 4096 Aug 6 06:57 ..
[13:27] <AndyEsser> that's the ownership/persmissions of the parent folder
[13:27] <M0RJX> [rharrison@dev ssdv]$ chown root.root ..
[13:27] <M0RJX> chown: changing ownership of ..: Operation not permitted
[13:27] <AndyEsser> why are you trying to change ownership of ..?
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[13:29] <M0RJX> chown rharrison.rharison .*
[13:29] <M0RJX> drwxrwsr-x 4 root root 4096 Aug 20 14:05 ssdv
[13:30] <M0RJX> in the top dir its owned by root.root
[13:30] <fsphil> what are you trying to do?
[13:30] <AndyEsser> will be owned by root
[13:30] <M0RJX> get drwxr-xr-x. 8 rharrison rharrison 4096 Aug 6 06:57 ..
[13:30] <M0RJX> this file back to root
[13:30] <AndyEsser> will be owned by root *
[13:30] <AndyEsser> gah
[13:30] <AndyEsser> ... / will be owned by root *
[13:30] <AndyEsser> there we go
[13:31] <AndyEsser> M0RJX: what are you trying to do?
[13:32] <fsphil> changing permission of /var/www/ssdv/.. will change /var/www
[13:33] <M0RJX> :-)
[13:33] <AndyEsser> if you're wanting your change to propogate down through the folder
[13:33] <AndyEsser> chown rharrison.rharrison /var/www/ssdv -R
[13:33] <M0RJX> Fixed I didn't realise it would go back that far
[13:33] <M0RJX> needed sudo chown root.root ../../html
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[13:34] <AndyEsser> gah! why not just cd rather than using ../ all over the place?
[13:34] <M0RJX> Right now time to get testing
[13:34] <M0RJX> I did but I was trying to explain how far back I neded to go
[13:35] <M0RJX> I didn't realise that .. is the not the ownership of this dir but of the one higher
[13:44] <AndyEsser> yea, .. is just a link for the parent dir
[13:44] <AndyEsser> . is the current dir
[13:44] <AndyEsser> but I would suspect it's not ideal to run chmod/chown operations on . and ..
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[15:06] <jakeio> Thanks PE2BZ.
[15:07] <jakeio> Anyone know why PulseAudio would be greyed out in dl-fldigi (Ubuntu 16.04).
[15:09] <craag> jakeio: if you didn't compile it with pulseaudio enabled
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[15:17] <Seckel> Hi I've got a question about TinyGPS++ on an arduino. How can I check other sensors, since doesn't the GPS need to constantly feed data?
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[15:27] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> You only need to read the GPS when you want to send a line of telemetry.
[15:28] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> so the normal process is read GPS, read sensors, send telemetry, repeat.
[15:34] <Seckel> Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: But when I tried to test that using delays the incoming information from the GPS was all messed up?
[15:36] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Is it a serial NEMA stream? In which case keep watching for the $$ that starts a sentence. Or are you using a different type of connection ?
[15:36] <Vaizki> hmm is there a win7 generic driver to provide browsers location info from a serial port gps?
[15:36] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Do Win7 drivers work on an rduino then ? ;-)
[15:36] <Vaizki> I got a pretty recent toughbook with all the goodies including GPS
[15:37] <Vaizki> sorry completely unrelated to Seckels question :)
[15:37] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Oh sry I thought that was a response to the previous question!
[15:37] <Seckel> Yup serial NMEA
[15:38] <Vaizki> this thing would be a sweet tracking laptop
[15:38] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> So in that case keep reading the stream untill you see the start with "$$"
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[15:39] <Vaizki> GPS and 3G built in, touch screen, IP65 and 10hr battery
[15:39] <Vaizki> sunlight readable 6000nits screen
[15:39] <Seckel> hmm okay. Do you know if tinygps++ does that automatically?
[15:39] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> No idea
[15:39] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> doubt it
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[15:40] <PE2BZ> jaekio LM2577S 3 - 34 V input 4-35 V output http://www.hf-electronics.nl/Webwinkel-Product-17836010/Step-up-dc-dc-converter.html
[15:40] <Seckel> So each piece of data starts with $$?
[15:40] <Seckel> or each stream?
[15:41] <Vaizki> each sentence
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[15:41] <Vaizki> there are different sentences sent, they start with $$ and end with beeline
[15:42] <Vaizki> hehe newline
[15:42] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> The NMEA sentences start "$G????????" see here http://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/nmea.htm#position
[15:42] <Seckel> thanks both! :) i'll have to give this a go. Bit of a step up from using the really simple tinygps library
[15:43] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> so for position data "GPGGA" is the start
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[15:43] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> sry "$GPGGA"
[15:44] <Seckel> I'll do some testing now :)
[15:45] <Seckel> oh and another quick question. I can't seem to get altitude data. Do I need at least a certain number of satellites for it to be able to triangulate it?
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[15:46] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Yes but it will be in a different sentence, you may have to tell the GPS to send the sentences you want.
[15:47] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Yup GGA has time/lat,long & Alt
[15:48] <Seckel> Do you know of any good examples? I might've got the syntax wrong or something
[15:48] <SpeedEvil> Seckel: It needs >4 sats for alt
[15:48] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Habduino code might be similar ?
[15:48] <SpeedEvil> Seckel: But - that too
[15:49] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> you also need to check the checksum to make sure nothing has corrupted.
[15:49] <Seckel> SpeedEvil: Thanks. I had 4 connected so I think its the latter
[15:50] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> http://www.habduino.org/
[15:50] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> https://github.com/habduino
[15:50] <SpeedEvil> You may get GGA,lat,lon,, - instead of 'lat,lon,height' if there is no height determined
[15:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE5GDB-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE5GDB-11
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[15:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KI7CUX after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI7CUX
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[15:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI7CUX_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI7CUX_chase
[15:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NA9VY - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NA9VY
[16:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AB5SS-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AB5SS-11
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[16:31] <jakeio> PE2BZ, would this be better than the other one I suggested? http://uk.farnell.com/texas-instruments/tps62291drvt/dc-dc-conv-step-down-1a-6son/dp/1647918
[16:32] <jakeio> Oh, no, that's even smaller!
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[16:56] <UT3BW> Finale $$UBSEDS18,16:50:26,160820,46.6152,25.7817,12999,9,2.80,-39.6,-6.8,-72,0*B05B
[16:57] <UT3BW> And red *SEDS18,16:52:384160820,46.6158,25.7910,13023,9,2.74,-38.;,-Q.3,-@2,0*3F56
[16:58] <UT3BW> now $$UBSEDS18,16:57:04,160820,46.6161,25.8085,13038,9,2.66,-38.6,-9.2,-72,0*61BB
[16:58] <UT3BW> ^)
[16:58] <UT3BW> :)
[17:02] <udat> :)
[17:04] <PE2BZ> jakeio asked and answered :-)
[17:04] <udat> got lora gateway running, now realise should have bought some modules to test with
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[17:05] <PE2BZ> jakeio http://nl.farnell.com/texas-instruments/lm2577s-adj-nopb/boost-3-5-40v-3a-52khz-5to263/dp/1469180
[17:06] <jakeio> Are you sure that will do, as the batteries could decrease to 1v per cell then it's out of this range.
[17:09] <jakeio> And I feel that this would be cheating!! https://www.amazon.co.uk/DROK-Regulators-Voltmeter-Converter-Adjustable/dp/B00RGK5G3I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471712899&sr=8-1&keywords=switching+regulator
[17:10] <PE2BZ> How about this one, and use 4 batteries as supply ? http://nl.farnell.com/texas-instruments/lm2585s-5-0-nopb/dc-dc-conv-boost-flyback-100khz/dp/2492163
[17:11] <PE2BZ> udat :-(
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[17:12] <jakeio> And, excuse my naivety but how do I then connect it up? I mean, do I need to construct a full switching power supply?
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[17:15] <PE2BZ> Yes, with all the 9 other parts needed http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm2585.pdf page 10
[17:16] <SA6BSS-Mike> theay are cheaply avalible on wbay
[17:16] <SA6BSS-Mike> ebay
[17:17] <jakeio> Cheaty premade ones?
[17:17] <PE2BZ> jakeio how much current do you need ?
[17:17] <jakeio> Max 1A.
[17:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://www.ebay.com/itm/5pcs-LM2596-DC-Adjustable-Buck-Converter-Step-Down-Power-Supply-Module-1-23-30V-/161833990353?hash=item25ae0eb8d1:g:MdYAAOSwHjNWALgz
[17:18] <PE2BZ> http://nl.farnell.com/texas-instruments/tps54231evm-372/evaluation-board-power-management/dp/2379501
[17:18] <PE2BZ> 3.5 to 28 Volt in, adjustable out with 2 ampere
[17:19] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-DC-DC-Buck-Converter-Step-Down-Module-LM2596-Power-Supply-Output-1-25V-35V-/152065743612?hash=item2367d31afc:g:4xkAAOSwYmZXHB7L
[17:21] <UT3BW> finish $$UBSEDS18,17:14:56,160820,46.6171,25.8744,13028,8,2.22,-43.8,-16.5,-72,-2,;W,
[17:21] <jakeio> Thank you PE2BZ and SA6BSS-Mike!
[17:22] <PE2BZ> jakeio mentioned he needed it this week. That´s why I went to Farnell instead of Ebay. I have bought a lot of those chinese parts, as converters for running mobile phones from 12 Volt batteries and 8.4 V LED lights from 12 V batteries. For the Roparun team bicycles ;-) with some glue it holds :-)
[17:23] <jakeio> I did find one on ebay that would come this week.
[17:23] <jakeio> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XL4015-5A-DC-DC-Voltage-Step-Down-Buck-Converter-like-LM2596-LED-Volt-meter-UK-/182071344571?hash=item2a644c3dbb:g:sLYAAOSwdU1W-p9o
[17:24] <SA6BSS-Mike> looks over kill :) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-2-5-pcs-MP1584-Adjustable-3A-DC-DC-Converter-Step-Down-Voltage-Regulator-UK-/281847500556?var=&hash=item419f6b8f0c:m:m_coTCVjMtSqUlPGFHGDF6A
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[17:27] <jakeio> This would suffice wouldn't it? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XL6009-DC-DC-Voltage-Step-Up-Boost-Converter-replace-LM2577-3-32v-input-UK-Fast/400858208676?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38540%26meid%3D0a7960fc83134c1f890a6f082328e925%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D281847500556
[17:27] <jakeio> Wow, that's a long hyperlink.
[17:27] <jakeio> :)
[17:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> thats perfect
[17:28] <jakeio> Wait, that's a step-up, does this mean that Vin < Vout?
[17:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> Wide input voltage 3V ~ 32V, optimum operating voltage range is 5 ~ 32V; ? Wide output voltage 5V ~ 35V;
[17:30] <PE2BZ> It´s up and down in one part. Sounds like a HAB :-)
[17:31] <PE2BZ> Is it still an option to feed it with 4 cells instead of 3 for you ?
[17:31] <jakeio> Yes, of course. Not a problem!
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[17:33] <PE2BZ> Gives you extended operating time :-)
[17:34] <jakeio> My initial plan was to just put 6 batties (2 lots of 3, in parallel) directly onto the 5V input GPIO.
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[17:42] <jakeio> I think I'll go with that. PE2BZ and SA6BSS-Mike, thank you very much!
[17:42] <jakeio> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XL4015-5A-DC-DC-Voltage-Step-Down-Buck-Converter-like-LM2596-4-38v-input-UK-Fast-/401090781787
[17:42] <jakeio> That's what I meant by "that" ^
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[18:01] <jakeio> Oh, no, it's not, this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XL4015-5A-DC-DC-Voltage-Step-Down-Buck-Converter-like-LM2596-4-38v-input-UK-Fast-/401090781787 is what I meant by "that". :|
[18:02] <jakeio> I just sent the same thing. Oh, well, it's not important.
[18:03] <Laurenceb__> https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/14089154_10154512729102962_7057607564560859188_n.jpg?oh=e4c666727c16f745eb8a7568a02016f8&oe=5848DC4B
[18:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[18:14] <PE2BZ> jakeio Breath ! Slowly in and out ;-)
[18:14] <jakeio> I get that a lot PE2BZ - really, and this is the one I was attempting to talk about! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LM2596-Buck-Converter-Step-Down-Adjustable-Converter-Power-Module-Regulator-UK-/400858200470
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[18:16] <PE2BZ> jakeio a good choice :-)
[18:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-1 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
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[18:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-17 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-17
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[19:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03zafira_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=zafira_chase
[19:15] Nick change: fl__0 -> fl_0
[19:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HIRFW-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-2
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[20:11] <Laurenceb__> http://lhopkins.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/image-8.jpeg
[20:12] <Laurenceb__> http://i.imgur.com/slXlSCL.jpg
[20:12] <Laurenceb__> someone is sleeping inside
[20:14] <SA6BSS-Mike> perfect hidaway for a nap :)
[20:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC9VVJ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC9VVJ-11
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[20:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC1FUA-3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC1FUA-3
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[21:45] <Laurenceb__> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/05/09/13/33FAA11700000578-3580344-image-a-37_1462798505279.jpg
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[21:45] <Laurenceb__> stealing muh ideaz
[21:50] <AndyEsser> not sure you're the first person to suggest drone deliveries ;)
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[21:54] <Laurenceb__> I suggested precision drops with polythene ballute
[21:55] <Laurenceb__> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3580344/UPS-backed-Rwandan-blood-deliveries-drones-promise-hurdles.html
[21:55] <Laurenceb__> propane cannon seems slight overkill
[21:58] <SpeedEvil> propane? There are _lots_ of old mortars out there.
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[23:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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