highaltitude.log.20160814

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[04:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UBSEDS17 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS17
[04:15] <richardeoin> ubseds filled, 15.8g free lift
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[04:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DO2EIM-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO2EIM-1
[04:49] <PB0AHX-WEG> !flights
[04:49] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-WEG: Current flights: 03UBSEDS15 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(7a1f)
[04:53] <PB0AHX-WEG> !payload 7a1f
[04:53] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-WEG: Payload 03UBSEDS17 10(7a1f) 03$$UBSEDS17 - no transmissions
[04:53] <PB0AHX-WEG> !dial 7a1f
[04:53] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-WEG: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS17 10(7a1f): 03434.611005 MHz
[04:54] <PB0AHX-WEG> gm all
[05:16] <jarod> https://tracker.habhub.org
[05:16] <jarod> when i clean on a balloon, nothing happens (on the map)
[05:16] <jarod> bug or feature?
[05:17] <jarod> *clean = click
[05:17] <jarod> (ATC was saying minimum clean, so i typed that :P)
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[05:26] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZTCEO0gvLo - a minute to go till spacex launch
[05:26] <SpeedEvil> 30s
[05:26] <Darkside> launch!
[05:29] <SpeedEvil> Sep
[05:35] <Darkside> they did it!
[05:36] <SpeedEvil> It's a meter or so off
[05:37] <SpeedEvil> Poor show.
[05:37] <SpeedEvil> :)
[05:37] <Darkside> pff
[05:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> 15.8g free lift, realy??
[06:00] <richardeoin> SA6BSS-Mike: hey
[06:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> gm
[06:00] <richardeoin> yes, it's a much larger balloon comparared to a qualatex
[06:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> diameter?
[06:00] <richardeoin> 1.9m today
[06:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok, wow :)
[06:01] <richardeoin> our last few flights used 1.5m, so this is a big bigger
[06:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> payload weight?
[06:02] <richardeoin> 25 grams
[06:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok
[06:02] <richardeoin> I'll put this on the website later, although I might go back to bed first
[06:02] <richardeoin> still rather early here
[06:02] <craag> morning richardeoin
[06:02] <richardeoin> hey craag
[06:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> interesting to see how high it will float, erly morningfor you I guess :)
[06:03] <richardeoin> craag: where are you launching from?
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[06:03] <craag> bournemouth - 14:15 local
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[06:03] <richardeoin> SA6BSS-Mike: I predict just over 12km, hopefully
[06:03] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok
[06:05] <richardeoin> The solar / bus voltage is spiking right now, I think that's it just breaking the cloud tops
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[06:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HAMFEST16 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HAMFEST16
[06:46] <Upu> !dial UBSEDS17
[06:47] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS17 10(7a1f): 03434.611005 MHz, 434.611135 MHz, 434.61216 MHz, 434.611711 MHz, 434.61148 MHz
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[06:50] <Upu> morning
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[06:56] <PE2BZ> !payload UBSEDS17
[06:56] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03UBSEDS17 10(7a1f) 03$$UBSEDS17 - no transmissions
[06:56] <PE2BZ> !flights
[06:56] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03UBSEDS15 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(7a1f)
[06:59] <PE2BZ> Goodmorning all !
[06:59] <craag> PE2BZ: Also I'm doing a latex pico flight at 13:15 UTC (pending approval) :)
[07:00] <craag> http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=7964b79362ffa38636accd20fba4216187392648
[07:00] <PE2BZ> Thanks for info craag . Will it end up on Terschelling ?
[07:00] <craag> It may very well do! (see link)
[07:00] <craag> wet yet again...
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[07:01] <PE2BZ> Did you save any HD images from near the dutch coast, after recovering the SD card ?
[07:01] <craag> yes I did - ~2000 of them, haven't had time to go through them yet - hopefully this evening
[07:02] <PE2BZ> Nice ! make a large Google HAB disk ;-)
[07:02] <PE2BZ> I live 7 km from the coast. I did wave to your camera ;-)
[07:03] Action: PE2BZ is going to get the kids outside instead of sitting at the computer.... That´s my place for today
[07:04] <PE2BZ> !dial UBSEDS15
[07:04] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[07:04] <PE2BZ> !dial 7a1f
[07:04] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS17 10(7a1f): 03434.6117 MHz, 434.611005 MHz, 434.61148 MHz, 434.611135 MHz, 434.611711 MHz
[07:16] Action: craag grabs a recording of UBSEDS15 for his talk today
[07:16] <craag> erm 17
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[07:31] <G8FJG> PE2BZ Ben ..looks like Monday/Tuesday could be good!! left click the map to advance through the days http://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo_nwe.html
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[07:33] <PE2BZ> G8FJG Good morning / good news Ron. I hope we have a decode :-)
[07:36] <G8FJG> Morning Ben...still just getting bad crc sofar ...got 9 the other night , but could be a really good enhancement period, cross fingers :-)
[07:36] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Umm so what is the data after Contestia that is being sent by UBSEDS15/17
[07:37] <PE2BZ> Geoff $$UBSEDS17,07:36:49,160814,51.1766,-0.6134,10526,5,1,3.96,4.30,-41.4,-13.7,0*CA6B
[07:37] <PE2BZ> You mean this ?
[07:37] <G8KNN> It's a 300 baud repeat of the Contestia data
[07:38] <Geoff-G8DHE_> yes but after that there is a blast of faster ah 300Baud yes could be
[07:39] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Only just waking up is the problem!
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[07:40] <PE2BZ> G8FJG the bad crc are not mine. I did stop the TX yesterday morning and only started it this morning again. I somehow lost my script (on both my PI ´s ) grabbing the image for TX so I did some investigation yesterday
[07:45] <G8FJG> the 9 were a few days ago
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[08:09] <Geoff-G8DHE_> oops UBSEDS burst ?
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[08:25] <Upu> seems so
[08:52] <Geoff-G8DHE_> UBSEDS17 gone for me
[08:57] <G8FJG> $UBSEDS17,08:55:56,160H14,51.1051,0.6587,204,Z<1,3.89,4.17R13:6,2+.2,0*E156
[08:59] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Ah well, time to,get dressed and get some breakfast then!
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[10:10] <rharrison_> craag, are you using lora or rtty?
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[10:15] <fsphil> email says: 434.300MHz with 3x 50bd RTTY 7n2 480Hz, followed by 3x LoRa SF8, 4/5, 20k8, explicit
[10:16] <fsphil> so yep, you get to test your rx :)
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[10:20] <ryan_in> Best cheap 3g dongles?
[10:20] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> what are the "3x" elements ?
[10:21] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah see it three lines of rtty followed by 3 lines of LoRa
[10:21] <rharrison_> fsphil, I need to join that mailling list :-)
[10:22] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Its a google group so you can just view it as well.
[10:22] <rharrison_> Yep can I join without a googel email adress?
[10:22] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ukhas
[10:22] <fsphil> rharrison_: yeah, you can just treat it as a normal mailing list
[10:23] <rharrison_> Cool its seemd to be forcing me to use my goole account last time I tried. Will try harder
[10:26] <rharrison_> Any one know if there is a package for generating ubx from kml or nema?
[10:26] <rharrison_> Ir is it time to start coding ?
[10:29] <PE2BZ> SF8, 4/5, 20k8, explicit is not one of the ( 0 to 5) normal modes ?
[10:30] <rharrison_> Indeed I was just thinking the lora-gw setting should be published with flights for the noobs like me
[10:32] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> I've suggested that the "Mode" table is held in the config file, then other modes could be added.
[10:32] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Also use the "M" key to toggle around modes when running.
[10:32] <PE2BZ> +1 to the M key :-)
[10:33] <PE2BZ> But for this afternoons flight we have to use the manual settings in the gateway.txt ?
[10:33] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> I guess so!
[10:34] <PE2BZ> ping craag can you confirm that LoRa for your flight is a manual mode and not one ¨from the list¨ ?
[10:35] <rharrison_> And ping craag please post your lora-gw config file :-)
[10:39] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Be even better if the Calling Channel mode was used! It would configure itself:-)
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[10:46] <fsphil> should probably get the pi setup. means going into the loft, the domain of the spiders
[10:47] <daveake> attic attack
[10:50] <fsphil> http://i.imgur.com/A7FikdI.jpg -- me installing the gateway software
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[10:54] <rharrison_> fsphil, lol
[11:00] <daveake> http://www.kappit.com/img/126300/man-uses-blowtorch-to-kill-spider-sets-house-on-fire/
[11:00] <rharrison_> daveake, Ive sen that before
[11:02] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[11:08] <fsphil> ah, I've hit the old SO-239 > SMA conundrum
[11:12] <lz1dev> daveake: he intended to burn the whole house, only way to be sure
[11:15] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/231940297086?lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=9045818&poi=&campaignid=620800750&device=c&adgroupid=27378723426&rlsatarget=pla-181480839426&adtype=pla&crdt=0 for you fsphil
[11:16] <PE2BZ> I would wire that instead of fixed adapter :-(
[11:16] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Just check for connecting springs ;-) http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/connectors/
[11:18] <fsphil> Geoff-G8DHE-M: oh perfect. I've used SO-239 > N > SMA
[11:18] <fsphil> not idea but should do
[11:18] <fsphil> wired into 2x 11el 434mhz yagis
[11:18] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Sounds good!
[11:19] <fsphil> now i just need to find the Pi's IP address
[11:20] <fsphil> ah gotcha
[11:30] <fsphil> right, all good to go in theory
[11:30] <fsphil> I'm being overly optimistic even bothering, it's unlikely to get high enough :)
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[11:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
[11:52] <daveake> You can access the Pi remotely now it's on the web
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[11:59] <PE2BZ> daveake I have travelled to my work just some minutes ago to add the 434 MHz Helical filter to the LoRa (a 10 minute bicycle trip) and the RSSI went from -95 with no signal to -121 with no signal after connecting the filter. The filter has 1 dB passband loss. Now I ´ll await Craag´s launch from home :-)
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[12:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GOS_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GOS_chase
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[13:00] <craag> wawiting for gps lock
[13:05] <PB0AHX-WEG> blip blip = a lock
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[13:12] <craag> yay lock
[13:13] <craag> finally..
[13:14] <Geoff-G8DHE_> I like the number of Solar panels on the building behind you!
[13:16] <PE2BZ> craag good flight !
[13:16] <PE2BZ> Can you confirm the mode settings before starting ?
[13:17] <fsphil> !track HAMFEST16
[13:17] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: Here you go - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HAMFEST16
[13:18] <PB0AHX-WEG> craag, good flight
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[13:29] <Geoff-G8DHE_> its off
[13:29] <Maxell> o/
[13:29] <Maxell> :D
[13:35] <Ron_G8FJG> crc fails already
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[13:44] <craag> trackign map not working here - is someone else geting it?
[13:45] <PE2BZ> Ron-G8FJG which mode ?
[13:45] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Yup it fine
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[13:46] <Ron_G8FJG> wont decode using here as advertised explicit 20.8 4.5 sf 8
[13:46] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Working here with Explicit, 20.8k, SF8, EC4:5 LDRO
[13:47] <PE2BZ> Geoff all manually set in gateway.txt ?
[13:47] <Ron_G8FJG> how do I get LDRO ??
[13:47] <Geoff-G8DHE_> I think its defaulted in the gw software
[13:47] <Geoff-G8DHE_> yes manually set one second
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[13:48] <PA0RPA> Where can I find the frequency of HAMFEST 2016 ?
[13:49] <Ron_G8FJG> 434.298
[13:49] <PE2BZ> frequency_1=434.300
[13:49] <PE2BZ> DIO0_1=27
[13:49] <PE2BZ> DIO5_1=26
[13:49] <PE2BZ> AFC_1=Y
[13:49] <PE2BZ> #MODE_1=1
[13:49] <PE2BZ> CODING_1=5
[13:49] <PE2BZ> BANDWIDTH_1=20K8
[13:49] <PA0RPA> Thanks Ron !
[13:49] <Geoff-G8DHE_> frequency_0=434.300
[13:49] <Geoff-G8DHE_> bandwidth_0=20K8
[13:49] <Geoff-G8DHE_> AFC_0=N
[13:49] <Geoff-G8DHE_> SF_0=8
[13:49] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Coding_0=5
[13:49] <PE2BZ> SF_1=8
[13:49] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Implicit_0=N
[13:49] <Geoff-G8DHE_> lowopt_0=N
[13:49] <PA0RPA> Thanks all !
[13:50] <PE2BZ> Thanks Geoff-G8DHE_
[13:50] <PE2BZ> I have added the last 2 lines to my gateway.txt
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[13:57] <Ron_G8FJG> thats annoying didnt # one line...working now...must get toes glasses on
[13:58] <Ron_G8FJG> thanks Geoff...snr up to 13 now
[13:59] <fsphil> rssi -120 -- running for a while now and no bad CRCs or anything. the 869mhz channel has had loads of false positives
[13:59] <Geoff-G8DHE_> running 3 chips here, 2 are quite a bit more sensitive than the third ....
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[14:04] <PE2BZ> !dial HAMFEST16
[14:04] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03HAMFEST 2016 10(97b8): 03434.2985 MHz, 434.2977 MHz, 434.298 MHz, 434.297934 MHz, 434.2972 MHz, 434.297978 MHz, 434.297956 MHz
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[14:18] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Oh big freq. swing!
[14:21] <PE2BZ> How big ?
[14:21] <Ron_G8FJG> 434.295
[14:22] <Geoff-G8DHE_> gone off the w/f now but it lost AFC and had to manually retune
[14:22] <PE2BZ> Thanks hearing it on 295 now
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[14:26] <CHRISG7OGX> what freq is hamfest txing on please?
[14:26] <Geoff-G8DHE_> !dial hamfest2016
[14:26] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE_: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[14:27] <Geoff-G8DHE_> !dial hamfest 2016
[14:27] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE_: Latest dials for 03HAMFEST 2016 10(97b8): 03434.297 MHz, 434.296192 MHz, 434.2955 MHz, 434.2952 MHz, 434.295352 MHz, 434.29524 MHz
[14:28] <CHRISG7OGX> Geoff-G*DHE thanks as always
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[14:29] <Neil_M0CJM> Hi all Neil in Basingstoke here
[14:29] <craag> Hello all
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[14:29] <craag> hows the signal?
[14:29] <Neil_M0CJM> Is there a problem with the distance calc on HAMFEST
[14:30] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Not on the tracker SNUS but possibly with dl=fldigi not sure its got the right details
[14:30] <PE2BZ> craag signal on rtty is coming in just before the circle reaches me ;-)
[14:30] <Neil_M0CJM> Mind you Elevation, Distance, lat and long seema bit weird??
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[14:30] <craag> They're scaled to remove the decimal point iirc
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[14:31] <craag> which breaks dl-fldigi distance clac
[14:31] <craag> *calc
[14:31] <Neil_M0CJM> Ahh OK
[14:31] <rharrison> !dial HAMFEST16
[14:31] <SpacenearUS> 03rharrison: Latest dials for 03HAMFEST 2016 10(97b8): 03434.2955 MHz, 434.296192 MHz, 434.2952 MHz, 434.295351 MHz
[14:32] <rharrison> Explicit, 20.8k, SF8, EC4:5 LDRO
[14:32] <rharrison> should i have that LDRO on the end?
[14:32] <PE2BZ> Ch1: $$HAMFEST16,605,14:31:08,506703983,-12845325,13730,10,89,0*9626
[14:33] <PE2BZ> first lora at home
[14:33] <Geoff-G8DHE_> the gw code defaults it
[14:33] <PE2BZ> with Geoff-G8DHE_ his settings
[14:33] <rharrison> Geoff-G8DHE_, cool and everyone else has it on ?
[14:33] <Geoff-G8DHE_> it always seems to show as on
[14:33] <Geoff-G8DHE_> I have one configured on the other off both show but decode
[14:34] <rharrison> I'll see if I can get a signal 346Km away
[14:36] <PA0RPA> Very weak signalsd here in Holland ! Not yet detectable.
[14:38] <rharrison> PA0RPA, Is that you Bergen op zoom?
[14:40] <PA0RPA> Yep thats me
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[14:40] <rharrison> Cool my radio is the same distance north of the payload but as i'
[14:41] <rharrison> I can't listen to the signal as I'm on holiday so I'm gust working through the GW
[14:41] <rharrison> gust = just
[14:41] <rharrison> !dial HAMFEST16
[14:41] <SpacenearUS> 03rharrison: Latest dials for 03HAMFEST 2016 10(97b8): 03434.2961 MHz, 434.296192 MHz, 434.295421 MHz, 434.2957 MHz, 434.297 MHz, 434.29524 MHz, 434.295034 MHz
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[14:45] <M0RJX> who is M0NRD?
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[14:47] <PA0RPA> Still very weak here in Holland, not detectable.....
[14:48] <PA0RPA> In RTTY I mean.
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[14:49] <PB0AHX> i decoded now in lora and rtty some string ok some bad here
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[14:52] <M0RJX> Yay getting CRC fails
[14:53] <M0RJX> OOH i got 1
[14:53] <M0RJX> How exciting
[14:53] <M0RJX> 14:52:45 Ch1: $$HAMFEST16,763,14:52:43,506393335,-11424735,19350,6,91,0*F8DE
[14:53] <PE2BZ> Great !
[14:53] <PE2BZ> Succes ++
[14:54] <M0RJX> 14:53:31 Ch1: $$HAMFEST16,767,14:53:30,506392989,-11423850,19564,6,87,0*30C2
[14:54] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[14:54] <M0RJX> 14:53:33 Ch1: $$HAMFEST16,768,14:53:31,506392918,-11423411,19569,6,89,0*8EF7
[14:54] <M0RJX> I'll post no more :-)
[14:54] <M0RJX> Not bad from Lanzarote
[14:55] <M0RJX> via Huddersfield of course
[14:55] <PE2BZ> DO you think I know where Lanzarote is ? :-)
[14:55] <PE2BZ> !whereis Lanzarote
[14:55] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: I haven't got a clue
[14:56] <PE2BZ> Even he does not have a clue ;-)
[14:56] <M0RJX> lol Canarie Islands I'm on holiday but loggin into GW near Manchester UK
[14:56] <PE2BZ> In Spain ?
[14:56] <PE2BZ> Bad bad boy !
[14:56] <M0RJX> Cia! Off the coast of africa
[14:56] <PE2BZ> Enjoy !
[14:57] <M0RJX> Hum I'm not getting any creadit on the tracker for my decoses?
[14:57] <M0RJX> decodes
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[15:04] <Ron_G8FJG> I'm not sure why that happens, I've decoded 100's of strings on LoRa but hardly ever shows on the map..if you go here you can see if your uploads are getting through http://habitat.habhub.org/stats/
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[15:06] <M0RJX> Ron_G8FJG, :-) M0RJX-LGW 4. Well at least 4 made it :-)
[15:06] <PE2BZ> I did not know that the LoRa also showed up on habitat. I assumed only the rtty did ?
[15:07] <M0RJX> Only the tracker lines it cant tell how you RX'ed it
[15:07] <Ron_G8FJG> all the g8fjg_3pi are LoRa decodes
[15:07] <Geoff-G8DHE_> daveake, thinks its a problem with duplicate JSON string ID's you only get about a 1/3 registering others are seen as duplicates
[15:07] <Ron_G8FJG> there you go
[15:08] <Geoff-G8DHE_> it only shows up when there are several trackers around
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[15:11] <M0RJX> Geoff-G8DHE_, I'm gues the GW sending the same data from all trackers so first one wins. Proably need to add CallSign to the selection criteria
[15:11] <M0RJX> Callsign of the RX obv. not the payload :-)
[15:12] <Geoff-G8DHE_> The documentation for the json doesn't seem to suggest that! But it might well be the cause, dl-fldigi seems happy withhowever
[15:12] <Geoff-G8DHE_> oh the drift!
[15:12] <M0RJX> I'll look at the code of both and see if I can see any differences
[15:12] <Ron_G8FJG> it doesn't really matter with telemetry, but I've noticed some ssdv pictures have packets missing, where my pictures are good.
[15:12] <M0RJX> I helped write some of the code on fl_digi in the day...
[15:13] <M0RJX> !dial HAMFEST16
[15:13] <SpacenearUS> 03M0RJX: Latest dials for 03HAMFEST 2016 10(97b8): 03434.29427 MHz, 434.293717 MHz, 434.2975 MHz, 434.29398 MHz, 434.294109 MHz, 434.29448 MHz
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[15:14] <M0RJX> My RSSI hasn't got above -115 but still had a few decodes :-)
[15:14] <Geoff-G8DHE_> the RSSI figure is not that reliable!
[15:16] <M0RJX> aah she's on the way down explains why I've lost her
[15:16] <M0RJX> Any how not bad from 350KM away on a vertical
[15:17] <M0RJX> I'm going to dump the habitat parser and see if I can see any issues with the lora updates vs the dl-fldigi ones
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[15:19] <PA0RPA> Feeldstrenghts where very low her in Holland, no detectable strings seen , I wonder what was wrong ? Normally signals from about 15 km hight and higher are very good detectable here in Holland. Next time better I hope . Good luck and thanks to the team anyway. PA0RPA .
[15:20] <M0RJX> PA0RPA, probably the wind blowing them the wrong way :-)
[15:20] <PA0RPA> No, wind here was West ....
[15:21] <M0RJX> I'm pretty sure it doesn't affect the signals really
[15:21] <PB0AHX> TEAM HAMFEST16 mni tnx lora and rtty going very well here tnx for flight t was nce for me
[15:22] <PE2BZ> I had EnableHabitat=N in my gateway.txt :-(
[15:22] <PB0AHX> 96 packets in lora
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[15:23] <PB0AHX> mmm not smart Ben
[15:24] <PE2BZ> I am an ..... .. .... .. .
[15:26] <PB0AHX> here the same Ben that is wat u change last week
[15:26] <PB0AHX> mmmmmmmmm
[15:27] <M0RJX> I'm going to make a few changes to the gateway front end I think I'll put a habitat not live warning on the top of the screen
[15:27] <M0RJX> ping daveake
[15:28] <M0RJX> I've just tried to pull your changes and it says I'm uptodate did they def. get pushed to git?
[15:28] <PE2BZ> I had it disabled because when txing SSDV with no GPS I was filling the log tail with garbage. Did not think of enabling it again...
[15:28] <M0RJX> Ahh let me have a look at the history on git Can answer my own question
[15:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> interesting to run fldigi at the same time as dl-fldigi and see the differance
[15:34] <fsphil> no telemetry here. not unexpected
[15:35] <Geoff-G8DHE_> I ight see the splash if I look closely enough ;-)
[15:36] <PB0AHX> dinner time here bye bye all
[15:37] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Ah its lost sat's its not updating
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[15:39] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Itsd gone
[15:39] <SA6BSS-Mike> HMM, just died
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[15:39] <Geoff-G8DHE_> 15:38:03 was last but lat/long has been out for a while when it lost GPS lock
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[15:46] <M0RJX> I asked this earlier but got no response. Is there a nema to UBX or KML to UBX tool out there? If not I'll code one.
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[15:49] <M0RJX> Humm the stony wall of silence :-) Best get coding :-)
[15:53] <fsphil> hah
[15:53] <fsphil> I've only seen nmea emulators
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[17:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI7CUX - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI7CUX
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[17:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DC2EH-14 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-14
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[17:53] <ryan_in> "Height (in feet) of top of balloon above ground level when flown" - Is this the total length of the payload train or your target altitude (CAA Application)?
[17:58] <daveake> What form is this ?
[17:58] <daveake> (it's the wrong form)
[17:58] <daveake> Hint: I bet it says "Captive" on it
[18:00] <ryan_in> Yep! Good job I asked or I would have sent the wrong form! Which form do I need?
[18:00] <daveake> !wiki caa application
[18:00] <SpacenearUS> 03daveake: No results for your query
[18:00] <daveake> grr
[18:01] <daveake> that one
[18:01] <daveake> The CAA have been known to apply common sense when presented with such a form where the altitude is "30km" or similar
[18:02] <AndyEsser> ha
[18:02] <daveake> but you should use the right one, else you might get permission for a captive flight, which wouldn't be helpful
[18:02] <ryan_in> Thanks Dave!
[18:03] <daveake> I'll mention this to them ... it's not easy to find the correct form on their website. Actually I've never managed to find it on their site.
[18:03] <ryan_in> I just googled what a captive balloon was. Completely the wrong thing!
[18:03] <daveake> yeah the word captive is a dead giveaway
[18:04] <daveake> but you're not the first
[18:04] <ryan_in> This is the website which led we to it: https://balloonnews.wordpress.com/2013/09/15/4-web-sites-you-must-see-before-launching-your-first-weather-balloon/
[18:05] <daveake> OK here's another hint
[18:05] <daveake> The guy who runs it hasn't got aclue
[18:05] <daveake> I've mentioned that link to him before
[18:06] <daveake> But I guess he's too busy trademarking other people's trading names
[18:06] <daveake> </rant>
[18:06] <mfa298> having a site that's wordpress.com should be an indicator of how much clue someone has
[18:06] <daveake> indeed
[18:06] <ryan_in> haha
[18:08] <mfa298> pretty much everyone here with blogs has <name>.com or <name>.co.uk
[18:08] <mfa298> if you want a blog to read this guy does have a clue http://www.daveakerman.com/
[18:08] <AndyEsser> +1
[18:08] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> +2
[18:08] <daveake> seems to know his stuff :p
[18:09] <ryan_in> Yep he does! Your website has been extremely helpful!
[18:09] <AndyEsser> has a pretty cool LCARS app on his tablet
[18:09] <daveake> Nope .. Pi
[18:09] <AndyEsser> close enough
[18:09] <AndyEsser> :P
[18:09] <daveake> Not started the Android/iPhone version yet
[18:11] <AndyEsser> really need to get my rtty demod working so I can get it running on android
[18:13] <ryan_in> Instrumentation on or suspended from balloon (CAA Application). Do you need to state what is inside the payload?
[18:14] <daveake> Roughly
[18:14] <daveake> When I did these, I just put down "GPS radio tracker, camera" or something like that
[18:15] <ryan_in> Ah ok, thank you. How often does permission not get granted
[18:15] <daveake> depends on nearby airports mainly, also airshows
[18:16] <ryan_in> Shouldnt be a problem in Herefordshire I guess
[18:18] <daveake> no
[18:18] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Have you come across the http://notaminfo.com/nationalmap site ?
[18:20] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Also if your a Google Earth User then this is helpful http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/Google_Earth_Tools/Airspace.kmz
[18:20] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> as it gives you a 3D view of the airspace and controlled zones.
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[18:24] <ryan_in> I'll check it out, thanks
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[18:26] <MarkIreland> I think I can see a floating hab over my house
[18:26] <MarkIreland> Looks like a clear floater
[18:27] <MarkIreland> Nothing on map though
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[18:32] <Upu> lol daveake
[18:32] <Upu> just read back
[18:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PISKY7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PISKY7
[18:33] <daveake> btw Upu that ^^ is one of those lora/UBlox boards
[18:33] <daveake> Decided to repurpose 2 of them as spare trackers
[18:33] <daveake> (they were in gateways but those now have dual lora boards in them)
[18:33] <Upu> AVR ?
[18:34] <daveake> No the pi boards that you've forgotten about :)
[18:34] <Upu> oh yeah I loose track
[18:34] <Upu> no pun
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[20:45] <craag> Evening all
[20:46] <AndyEsser> o/
[20:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PISKY8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PISKY8
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[20:54] <craag> fun launch from frars today - although an extended wait for gps lock
[20:54] <mikestir> evening. any of you guys set up for 6m? got pips on 50.002 (dial, carrier at 0025). sounds habby, but no mod yet.
[20:55] <fsphil> habby?
[20:55] <mikestir> yeah, in the way everyone does their pips on floaters
[20:56] <mikestir> 6 second intervals in this case, about 100 ms tx
[20:56] <mikestir> initially assumed it was a beacon but it hasn't transmitted anything else yet
[20:56] <fsphil> I would imagine it's fairly unlikely to be a hab
[20:57] <fsphil> will have a listen
[20:57] <mikestir> well some of the polish guys were playing with hf a while back weren't they?
[20:58] <fsphil> oh lots of gqrx updates
[20:58] <fsphil> lets see if this breaks
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[21:02] <fsphil> nothing heard
[21:03] <mikestir> just trying some websdrs
[21:04] <fsphil> 6m quiet as ever sadly
[21:05] <mikestir> my setup is pretty suboptimal. I worked sweden once, but other than that only some guy in north wales about 4 miles away
[21:05] <AndyEsser> mikestir: where are you?#
[21:05] <mikestir> but I have nothing for vhf up at the moment hence not having been in here for ages
[21:06] <mikestir> AndyEsser: near liverpool
[21:06] <AndyEsser> ah ok, not far from me then
[21:07] <fsphil> 2m band empty too
[21:11] <mikestir> not found anything on any uk websdrs. assume it must be local, but it seems intentional
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[21:16] <mikestir> found it - it's a spurious from my currentcost clamp sensor :)
[21:16] <mikestir> it's never anything interesting is it!
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[23:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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