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[03:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03(214)723-9758_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=(214)723-9758_chase
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[04:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03MIKEL-4 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MIKEL-4
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[04:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ5RZP-11 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ5RZP-11
[04:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[10:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VADER after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VADER
[10:26] <AndyEsser> Insomnia58 will have a Robots Arena... :O
[10:27] <fsphil> Robot Ears, stand by
[10:27] <fsphil> what's insomnia 58?
[10:27] <fsphil> mr. google
[10:27] <mfa298> but will it have a pit?
[10:27] <AndyEsser> Insomnia is the uk's largest gaming festival/LAN
[10:27] <fsphil> ah
[10:27] <AndyEsser> run by multiplay, who were recently bought by Game
[10:27] <AndyEsser> making a friend of mine very very rich
[10:27] <fsphil> harder to ragequit in person
[10:28] <AndyEsser> Anyway, lunch!
[10:28] <fsphil> I'm tinkering with bits to build something for robot wars 2017 if they do it
[10:28] <fsphil> it's not going well :)
[10:29] <AndyEsser> have you cut off your own hand?
[10:29] <fsphil> not so far, nor anyone elses
[10:29] <AndyEsser> I need to catch up on Robot Wars, only seen the first episode and it wasn't... great
[10:30] <fsphil> I'm enjoying the new series
[10:30] <daey> is robot wars back?
[10:30] <AndyEsser> it is
[10:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LCARS_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LCARS_chase
[10:30] <daey> lol
[10:30] <mfa298> I've started playing spot the teams from a different episode
[10:31] <AndyEsser> fsphil: I enjoyed the first episode, but Dara O'brien and his co-host (whose name I can't remember) felt a bit... off
[10:31] <AndyEsser> dunno if that was just first episode, figure out format type stuff
[10:31] <fsphil> early days, takes a while for people to get into it
[10:31] <AndyEsser> yea
[10:31] <daey> was there ever an battle were the guard robots got wrecked by the contestents?
[10:31] <fsphil> the very first episodes with clarkson where awful :)
[10:31] <AndyEsser> don't think you were allowed to actively attack house robots
[10:31] <fsphil> there was one, matilda I think. but it was probably setup
[10:32] <daey> the limitations kinda made it boring. no flame throwers.. etc.
[10:32] <daey> its just spinning disks and flippers :(
[10:32] <AndyEsser> yea
[10:32] <fsphil> they where looking to rebuild it I think, so let one of the contenstants attack it
[10:32] <AndyEsser> I'd love no rules :)
[10:32] <AndyEsser> was impressed to see a bot that had mini bots it could deploy
[10:32] <fsphil> no projectiles
[10:32] <AndyEsser> (which were absolutely useless, but amusing nonetheless)
[10:32] <mfa298> some of the spinning disks this time around have been impressive
[10:33] <fsphil> yeah. wonder if hypno is in this series
[10:34] <fsphil> ah they're not
[10:34] <daey> would something like a bolt thingy they use to kill animals be allowed?
[10:34] <daey> that combined with a magnet would be funny
[10:34] <fsphil> still a projectile
[10:34] <daey> its not a projectile
[10:34] <daey> its a bolt. always attached to the robot
[10:35] <fsphil> ah
[10:35] <fsphil> then yeah
[10:35] <mfa298> if it was always attached it might be, similar sort of effect to having an axe
[10:35] <daey> but you would need an explosion obviously
[10:35] <fsphil> you'd just have to be sure it wouldn't get stick in the other robot
[10:35] <fsphil> stuck*
[10:36] <fsphil> well no explosion, but compressed air would do
[10:36] <daey> are water guns allowed?
[10:36] <fsphil> probably not
[10:36] <daey> probably not... that would be too easy :D
[10:36] <daey> iron dust blower :D
[10:37] <fsphil> I don't a tiny bit of water would cause most robots any trouble
[10:37] <fsphil> might make the floor a bit slippier
[10:37] <daey> i mean shortcircuits in the electronics
[10:38] <fsphil> they're usually well protected
[10:38] <mfa298> i think most of them are probably water resistant enough to be affected during the battle
[10:38] <mfa298> to be *not*
[10:39] <mfa298> considering they're protecting themselves against axes and other nasties
[10:40] <daveake> That wooden one might warp
[10:41] <daveake> Least of its problems tbh
[10:41] <fsphil> hah
[10:41] <fsphil> can't decide of brave or stupid
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[10:41] <fsphil> if
[10:42] <daveake> knot clever
[10:43] <fsphil> You wooden want to do that
[10:43] <AndyEsser> It'll be pine
[10:44] <daey> oakey
[10:45] <daveake> It'd never cedar final
[10:45] <AndyEsser> these puns are pineful
[10:45] <daveake> I knew ye'd say that
[10:45] <daveake> aaarrgh
[10:45] <daveake> yew'd
[10:46] <AndyEsser> Balsacrap
[10:46] <Upu> are you launching daveake ?
[10:46] <Upu> your face just appeared on our monitoring board at work
[10:46] <daveake> eh what
[10:46] <Upu> (left ssdv.habhub.org) open
[10:46] <AndyEsser> lol
[10:46] <AndyEsser> spooky
[10:46] <Upu> http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[10:46] <daveake> er no :)
[10:47] <Upu> lol
[10:47] <daveake> The max alt might tell you that was the last image from the skycademy flight, as I was about to pull the plug on it :)
[10:48] <daveake> That was at the car after collecting the payload from the field
[10:49] <mfa298> presumeably the time on the image would be a giveaway as well, unless daveake's discovered time travel
[10:49] <daveake> maybe I have :p
[10:52] <mfa298> well we never know what's next to come out of pi towers so anything is possible.
[10:57] <daveake> If they'd invented time travel, their time estimates might be more accurate :)
[10:57] <daveake> and they'd know how many zeroes to order
[11:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[11:48] <AndyEsser> people are going to start paying for advertising space at Elsworth given the amount of photos that keep being taken there :)
[11:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-12 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-12
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[11:57] <cm13g09> fsphil: I have a copy of the rules here - they're quite interesting....
[12:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IV3SRD-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-2
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[12:10] <fsphil> cm13g09: oooh, for the 2016 series?
[12:10] <fsphil> where you taking part?
[12:17] <craag> a gas-powered spear would work quite well I think
[12:18] <craag> probably get jammed so you'd have to make the hit count, but could then use it to drag them into flames/dead metal
[12:18] <fsphil> robot will need to be as heavy as possible and good wheels
[12:20] <mfa298> I wonder if you need a 2nd (maybe less powerful and blunt) spike so you can use it to push them off your good spike
[12:21] <craag> I was thinking gas-powered retraction on a seperate trigger
[12:23] <mfa298> for added complexity make the spike barbed and have a 90 degree rotate option on it so you can also keep them in place while you arrange more damage
[12:24] <craag> on the scale of danger while on the workbench though, the spear would rate scarily high
[12:26] <mfa298> I thnink a lot of the current weapons rate scarily high, at least for the ones getting through to the head to heads
[12:27] <craag> at least with the disks you have to be in contact with them, and the axes probably don't have much torque at the start of their swing so can be easily locked off
[12:27] <mfa298> you know they're getting powerful when the standard rating for what they can pull/lift are rated in types of car (ranging up to landrovers)
[12:27] <fsphil> you'd have to allow for it being cold. apparently the new arena is quite nippy
[12:28] <craag> yeah lots of team complaining about that, and freezing up the valves
[12:29] <mfa298> from team spotting in the repair area I think they first three episodes were shot at the same time.
[12:29] <craag> yeah - makes sense to maximise arena time for the audience
[12:30] <mattbrejza> seeing as there is a 2hr wait between rounds otherwise
[12:30] <mfa298> team nuts are easy to spot in the background in ep2 and ep3 and I've spotted a few others like that
[12:30] <fsphil> yeah they walked past razer in the 3rd ep
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[13:34] <Garak> what are some current resources for high altitude balloons, most of the forums I've found so far is a few years old inactive and/or full of broken links
[13:35] <daveake> www.ukhas.org.uk
[13:35] <daveake> www.daveakerman.com </advert>
[13:35] <mfa298> Garak: the wiki linked in the topic gives lots of useful stuff if you can find it
[13:37] <mfa298> some of the legal aspects and best ways to track can vary depending on where in the world you are
[13:38] <Garak> Yea, the UK stuff is slightly different than here in Canada, we use 2M APRS
[13:39] <Garak> I'm looking for data using LiIon batteries
[13:42] <mfa298> most people tend to use primary cells if it's an up/down flight. LiIon/LiPo gets more interesting - especially if you're trying to charge them during the flight
[13:43] <Garak> Yea, the rest of the team decided on LiIon before I got involved, I'm somewhat concerned about it
[13:43] <SpeedEvil> Garak: li-ion needs to be inside an enclosure
[13:43] <SpeedEvil> If it's under 7C or so, it stops working well.
[13:43] <Garak> yea, they have built a foam box for the batteries and payload
[13:44] <SpeedEvil> It is likely fine then.
[13:44] <mfa298> if it's up/down most people use the energizer ultimiate lithium primary cells. very lightweigt and good energy density
[13:44] <SpeedEvil> If the payload is going to dissipate a watt or three
[13:44] <SpeedEvil> If it's a long duration payload, then it will cool far enough that the batteries will not work at high temp
[13:45] <SpeedEvil> high altitude
[13:46] <Garak> Right now there is a GoPro, RPi Zero, Atmega328, gps module, various sensors, Radiometric module, in the payload, We are somewhere around 800g with an 800g balloon and 36" parachute
[13:47] <Garak> the payload is around 800g that is
[13:49] <Garak> I'm also trying to figure out what to do for an antenna. I'd like to do a twinline jpole or slim jim but I can't find any twinline kicking around. The 1/4wave ground plane is just awkward.
[13:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Why awkward ?
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[14:04] <Garak> The ground plane protruding out at 45 degree angles
[14:06] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> 45 degree ? Use a Monopole construction ground plane flat against bottom of payload monopole sticking down, for safety use flexible elemsnts like "Ernie Ball 1013_0.13" guitar strings !!
[14:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> http://projecthab.co.uk/2013/10/19/payload-ready/
[14:07] <Garak> To get a good 50ohm match the ground plane needs to be at 45 degrees to the vertical element
[14:08] <Garak> even just bending them a few degrees puts the SWR up above 3
[14:08] <Garak> this is on 2M so the guitar strings are way to flexible
[14:09] <PE2BZ> Garak measured in ¨free space¨ or close to computers / monitors and /or your body ?
[14:09] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> So the energy just bounces back and re-radiates, its not as if your worrying bout current/voltge nodes on a feed line!
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[14:10] <Garak> I'm more concerned about trying to get every mW radiated into the air, we have large areas with no digipeaters or even roads
[14:11] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> We don't have a problem over here, 100mW 300+Km range
[14:11] <daveake> Leo managed pretty well with 10mW didn't he ?
[14:11] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> quite!
[14:12] <Garak> what modulation are you guys using and what is your typical receive sensitivity
[14:13] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> FSK
[14:13] <daveake> Leo's flight had 10mW APRS
[14:13] <daveake> Dunno what he did for an aerial
[14:14] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> or LoRa modulation protcol is getting popular as well with powers in the 10-1--mW range
[14:14] <daveake> Very few flights here bother with the 45deg thing - I have a few times but there's plenty of link budget without
[14:14] <daveake> Payload bases tend to be flat so it's a pita to arrange the gp any other way
[14:15] <Garak> My ground based test here so far have been pretty bad, The digitpeater 15km away is only getting 1 in 10 of my 2W packets
[14:16] <Garak> The transmitter I'm using for the balloon is only 300mW
[14:16] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> http://leobodnar.com/balloons/B-64/index.html
[14:17] <daveake> We generally get about 1 mile on the ground with 10mW (I mean payload on the ground, to a car roof aerial)
[14:17] <daveake> Up in the air is a different matter ofc
[14:17] <Garak> I'll be testing it on an RC plane next week, so I'll find out then if I'm going to have issues
[14:18] <daveake> 1 mile is plenty if you have a last fix a few hundred meteres up, especially with landing prediction
[14:19] <Garak> We might be 25km+ away from the landing area. Some of the roads here take the long way around
[14:21] <daveake> My point is that if you have a last position a few metres up, you just drive to where the prediction says, and you'll be close enough to rx again
[14:21] <Garak> I guess in the UK you have similar issues to us here in NS. Most launch sites will put the payload in the ocean
[14:21] <daveake> I've had a few flights where I've not bothered chasing till after it lands
[14:21] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> See Leo's list! http://leobodnar.com/balloons/
[14:21] <daveake> We do have a good listener network though
[14:21] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> but his were primaraily floaters
[14:22] <daveake> woo 66 ... I'm even now :p
[14:22] <daveake> (skycasdemy wsas #66)
[14:22] <daveake> -s-s
[14:22] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> :)
[14:23] <PE2BZ> kycademy ?
[14:23] <Garak> I'd like to do a floater, it would be heading right across the pond
[14:24] <Garak> this first one I'm doing is with a group who want pictures from the edge of space
[14:25] <daveake> btw PE2BZ I'm adding serial-port support to pits right now
[14:25] <daveake> Got it working just a minute ago
[14:26] <Garak> Has anyone found a source for affordable large foil balloons
[14:29] <number10> what do you mean by large - if 36" there are some here http://randomaerospace.com/Random_Aerospace/Balloons.html
[14:31] <Garak> I'd like to do a 200g+ payload floater
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[14:33] <number10> will 36" wont be good enough
[14:33] <number10> well
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[14:33] <SpeedEvil> Garak: at what altitude?
[14:34] <SpeedEvil> A 36" can lift 200g
[14:34] <SpeedEvil> But only to perhaps 3000m above sea level
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[14:35] <Garak> I don't know yet, I'm thinking the jetstream would be a nice target so 10km
[14:36] <craag> a balloon that can lift 200g to 10km and hold superpressure will be quite a feat.
[14:36] <SpeedEvil> It's quite possible.
[14:36] <SpeedEvil> It's not going to be affordable.
[14:36] <craag> yeah, I mean for amateur home construction
[14:36] <mattbrejza> or within the 2m rule
[14:36] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Look at this site UBSEDS 13 onwards http://www.bristol-seds.co.uk/flights.html
[14:36] <craag> you're not going to get that off the shelf
[14:36] <craag> and 2m pico rule too...
[14:37] <SpeedEvil> craag: Sure he can - the expensive shelf, with the nice salesman who comes to your house.
[14:38] <SpeedEvil> Well.
[14:38] <Garak> I just need to stay under 115 cubic ft
[14:38] <SpeedEvil> Actually putting numbers on it.
[14:40] <SpeedEvil> A 2m diameter balloon at 10km has a volume of about 6m^3. This is about 2400g of lift. The surface area is about 12m^2, and helium weighs about 300g at that density. So, 2100g for the structure. Assuming density of 1, that is ~2.1l, or about .15mm thickness.
[14:41] <SpeedEvil> That is quite thick for a balloon.
[14:41] <SpeedEvil> I note I'm unsure if I've got diameter or radius switched up.
[14:41] <SpeedEvil> Or similar errors.
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[14:43] <PE2BZ> daveake that´s great news ! Is it allready possible ( by config file ?) to use 2 different gpio lines for the GPS also ? I had the Upu GPS board rewired to ¨your¨ GPIO ports, but after that I noticed that perhaps it would be easier to have that option in the configuration
[14:43] <SpeedEvil> ^4 not 6m^3, so .1mm
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[15:21] <daveake> For I2C yes you just do SDA= and SCL=
[15:21] <daveake> For serual GPS it's the standard GPIO serial pins
[15:21] <daveake> serial
[15:24] <PE2BZ> daveake thanks !
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[15:56] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser nice weather... This morning I moved the QFH137 1 meter up and away from my man made noise https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3w87ozhlq3hynz/noaa-15-08121539-hvct.jpg?dl=0
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[16:28] <Garak> will kapton tape hold up to the cold?
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[16:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB1SAR-11 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB1SAR-11
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[16:58] <PE2BZ> Garak wikipedia thinks so https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapton -269 to +400 degrees C
[16:59] <M0XIN> And the adhesive on the tape?
[17:00] <M0XIN> Pretty sure that holds up well at low temps too - but would probably limit its adhesivenessnessness
[17:05] <Garak> I guess I'll find out, it certainly makes the electronics look all nice and areospacey
[17:05] <DL7AD1> ping Upu
[17:05] Nick change: DL7AD1 -> DL7AD
[17:07] <Garak> what I would really like is some double sided thermally conductive tape that is a electrical insulator
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[17:08] <PE2BZ> thermal pad from a cpu ?
[17:08] <Garak> yea something like that
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[17:13] <Garak> I just requested a new secondary callsign, VE1HAB
[17:15] <Garak> Its almost crazy to me that I'll have that callsign for life in addition to VE1LX, it almost seems wrong to me to tie up two callsigns
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[17:45] <PE2BZ> Zo nog 1 keer de NOAA 18 en dan ga ik nog even de 405 MHz qfh testen. Zit op dezelfde Airspy, met een coax schakelaar....
[17:46] <PE2BZ> sorry, wrong window
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[18:15] <david435445> Evening all
[18:24] <david435445> I have a question about Pi in the Sky, anyone can help?
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[18:34] <SpeedEvil> shoot
[18:34] <PE2BZ> Hi David. Drop your question. As soon as someone has something useful to say they will respond
[18:35] <PE2BZ> SpeedEvil honours his name ;-)
[18:36] <david435445> Well...
[18:37] <david435445> I have a Pi in the Sky with an APRS board. The problem is that the APRS doesn't transmit. I have ready the guide and have edited the config file with the correct settings.
[18:37] <david435445> Now I have had this issue before a long time ago and I remember it had something to do with loading a raspi module or something like that.
[18:38] <david435445> Something having to do with enabling the audio on the raspi. Anyone have a clue?
[18:40] <PE2BZ> So it does transmit but no audio ?
[18:41] <daveake> There was a change a while back after Raspbian changed, to install an audio module that got removed.
[18:41] <daveake> It may have changed again. I suggest you login, kill send_aprs, and run that manually
[18:41] <david435445> Yes I believe that was it.
[18:41] <daveake> If the radio is being keyed up but no audio, then it's (another) audio change
[18:42] <david435445> What audio module would that be?
[18:42] <daveake> If the radio is not being keyed up, then it's not got GPS lock
[18:42] <daveake> Dunno. See the APRS instructions on the site. They changed ages ago.
[18:43] <daveake> Is the radio coming on each minute ?
[18:45] <david435445> Will check. Is there a way to forces APRS transmission without GPS lock? I am in my basement lab...
[18:46] <david435445> Upstairs it has GPS lock, RTTY decodes fine and shows position.
[18:47] <daveake> Not without a code change no
[18:47] <daveake> If you look in the aprs.c file there'll be a test for GPS lock - comment it out
[18:48] <gb73d> http://www.surfertoday.com/surfing/12975-alison-teal-goes-surfing-around-erupting-kilauea-volcano
[18:48] <david435445> I see in the startup file that ./send_aprs is commented out - is that normal?
[18:48] <daveake> er no oops
[18:49] <daveake> Right remove the #
[18:49] <daveake> I'll fix that in github later
[18:49] <david435445> :-) Just noticed it.
[18:49] <daveake> yeah might be relevant :/
[18:51] <david435445> In aprs.c, the GPS fix test, would that be if (GPS->Satellites > 3)?
[18:52] <daveake> yep
[18:54] <david435445> Ok lemme check...
[19:02] <PE2BZ> david could it be that when connected to an HDMI monitor the sound is (re)directed to the HDMI and you have to use a mixer to route it otherwise ?
[19:02] <david435445> Not connected to HDMI at the moment... Just Ethernet, power and antennas :-)
[19:03] <PE2BZ> Ok. Then I would not know.... I have to go, laterzzzz
[19:03] <david435445> Ok toch bedankt voor het meedenken!
[19:03] <PE2BZ> Graag gedaan ;-)
[19:03] <david435445> on4bds btw :-)
[19:04] <PE2BZ> Roger roger
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[19:04] <david435445> If I run send_aprs it now hangs on "Set up HX1 control ..."
[19:07] <daveake> It's not hung; it's waiting for aprs.wav to arrive
[19:07] <daveake> which depends on gps lock / your change to the source
[19:09] <david435445> I see.
[19:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
[19:10] <david435445> Pfff.. The Raspi doesn't have +5V on it's GPIO connector...
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[19:24] <david435445> Ok, lost some time because the scope was AC coupled.. Doh...
[19:34] <david435445> If I download a sample APRS wav file and name it aprs.wav, I can hear it getting transmitted on a monitoring receiver.
[19:34] <david435445> SO that's good.
[19:34] <david435445> So it's a script issue.
[19:53] <cm13g09> fsphil: ping
[19:53] <cm13g09> mfa298: ping
[19:53] <fsphil> ding
[19:54] <arko> has anyone here experienced their rfm69 getting stuck doing temp measurements?
[19:54] <cm13g09> fsphil: ref your earlier question, no I wasn't competitor, but managed to extract the rules out of Mentorn....
[19:54] <jcoxon> arko, not usually
[19:54] <arko> hmm
[19:54] <fsphil> ah ha
[19:54] <jcoxon> arko, #ukhasnet might be better to ask in
[19:54] <cm13g09> mfa298: I appear to have run into a "missing part problem"
[19:54] <arko> wonder why its stuck
[19:54] <fsphil> I must ask them
[19:54] <arko> jcoxon: good point
[19:55] <cm13g09> fsphil: I can just pass them on if you want
[19:55] <fsphil> ta
[19:55] <fsphil> you got my email addy?
[19:55] <cm13g09> lemme just try and work out if I'm really missing parts for this 3d Printer or not
[19:56] <cm13g09> and I'll ping them over
[19:56] <cm13g09> I will need your email though
[19:58] <cm13g09> yeah... mfa298 I'm missing two parts
[19:58] <cm13g09> crucial ones as wel
[19:59] <cm13g09> the couplers off the A4 and A5 assemblies....
[20:03] <mfa298> it did sound like it was going to well, they should be attached to the steppers from memory
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[20:06] <cm13g09> they aren't
[20:07] <cm13g09> and an edible interrupt arrived ;)
[20:07] <cm13g09> I find it a bit odd that *both* of them are missing it
[20:12] <david435445> Good evening all and thanks for the info!
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[20:41] <cm13g09> mfa298: aha
[20:42] <cm13g09> I have found out why I am "missing" part
[20:42] <cm13g09> I am not
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[21:11] <cm13g09> mfa298: I'm on the home straight
[21:11] <cm13g09> BUT
[21:29] <cm13g09> my manual has different wiring
[21:29] <Upu> ping DL7AD
[21:29] <DL7AD> Upu: hi :) already got my information
[21:29] <Upu> rgr :)
[21:30] <DL7AD> Upu: do you come to the coference?
[21:31] <Upu> I do
[21:34] <DL7AD> okay. i think about buying some stuff at you.
[21:34] <Upu> nps just let me know
[21:41] <DL7AD> rgr
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[23:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[23:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F5KAV-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F5KAV-11
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