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[03:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IK8SUT-11 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IK8SUT-11
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[07:03] <PE2BZ> !flights
[07:03] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03PICO-27 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(11ba)
[07:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[07:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CAR_8_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CAR_8_chase
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[08:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RPF-C2 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RPF-C2
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[08:44] <BubUK> good morning campers
[08:49] <gonzo_> no, that was last week
[08:49] <AndyEsser> god it felt so nice to have a nice long bath last night
[08:53] <gonzo_> you only just got back?
[08:56] <fsphil> I don't think I'm still quite recovered. worth it though
[09:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RPF-C1 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RPF-C1
[09:13] <gonzo_> it's my busy time of the year. Am out almost every weekend june/july/august
[09:13] <gonzo_> and sept is filling up as well
[09:14] <AndyEsser> gonzo_: I only got home last night
[09:14] <AndyEsser> I drove straight from Brighton to work on Tuesday
[09:14] <AndyEsser> and then home after
[09:14] <gonzo_> I bet you were fragrant at work!
[09:14] <gonzo_> +e
[09:15] <gonzo_> when did you get to emf?
[09:16] <AndyEsser> gonzo_: Friday night
[09:16] <AndyEsser> gonzo_: haha, wasn't too bad
[09:16] <AndyEsser> I'd washed at least at my mates house on Monday
[09:24] <gonzo_> apart from the odd one or two, EMF was supprisingly non-stinky. Compare that to your average radio rally
[09:25] <fsphil> yeah, esp. considering how hot it was
[09:25] <gonzo_> (the guy doing the talk on rebooting AR, did make reference to the stereotypical ham's personal hygene)
[09:25] <fsphil> that was a pretty good talk
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[09:26] <fsphil> the quality of the talks in general was excellent. loved the numbers station one too
[09:26] <fsphil> wasn't what I expected at all
[09:26] <gonzo_> I did get choked my one person's BO when stood at the side of one marquee. Turned to see and it was a girl
[09:27] <gonzo_> there were some good talks. Though most seemed more shop-window type, than anything indepth
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[09:28] <gonzo_> I loved that in all the rave tents, there were just people oggling at the tech behind the lighting systems.
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[09:29] <fsphil> if only all raves where like that
[09:30] <gonzo_> geekdom is now the in thing
[09:30] <gonzo_> when I were a lad, it would get you beaten up
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[09:33] <AndyEsser> I didn't go to any talks, should make more use of them next time
[09:37] <fsphil> they're all up on youtube now
[09:38] <fsphil> the rocket one was great. got to see my first proper rocket firing
[09:38] <fsphil> very small rocket, but nice and loud
[09:39] <fsphil> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3vBPQIJzgAfEpSl9RKmj4g
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[09:51] <BubUK> hello chaps. anyone any idea how to send text TO a pi based lora/pits combination ?
[09:54] <AndyEsser> fsphil: that's one I definitely wanted to see - but didn't get there on Friday early enough :(
[09:54] <AndyEsser> fsphil: ta for link
[10:02] <PE2BZ> next camp wireless headsets would be nice ;-)
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[10:21] <TT7> hello everybody
[10:22] <AndyEsser> Hi Doctor Nick
[10:22] <TT7> is there a way to setup the payload doc to show a character I send as a bitfield?
[10:24] <fsphil> the bits of a single character?
[10:25] <Strykar> good place to buy GPS antenna in Canada/US?
[10:25] <TT7> yes
[10:26] <fsphil> don't believe so. also depending on your bits, fldigi might not process the character
[10:27] <TT7> yea I know I excluded the ones it doesn't decode.. ok never mind, thx
[10:28] <fsphil> sorry :)
[10:31] <TT7> no problem, I will just have to remember what the characters mean :)
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[10:47] <mfa298> TT7: you could always convert to hex in your code and send that as a 2 byte string. at least makes it easier to decode in your head
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[10:58] <Vaizki> you could also make a hotfix python I guess and get someone to sign it for you..
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[11:02] <TT7> I'll probably go with the 'remember' method. I lot of other things to finish and test on the tracker.
[11:03] <Vaizki> how many bits do you have that you want to transmit?
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[11:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[11:08] <TT7> oh it's just a few bits about possible errors in the GPS parsing. Mostly just about two bits change, so it won't be a problem
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[11:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TT7F - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TT7F
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[12:14] <TT7> I tried scaling my 'battery' input by adding post parse filter in genpayload using 'habitat.filters.numeric_scale' key=battery and value=0.001 with no success. how do I do it properly?
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[12:15] <Vaizki> TT7, as mfa298 suggested, converting to hex gets you 4 bits per ascii character in easily glanced format
[12:22] <TT7> yes, that may be convenient
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[12:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ5RZP-11 after 0320 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ5RZP-11
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[18:15] <PE2BZ> If I had received an encoded tracker (lets say for a fox hunt) and with minimodem I get strings starting with either $ or SE with a length of 139 (bytes ?) like this:
[18:15] <PE2BZ> $E81A3A4AC9BAC95979A98999F91A08EAB8BA1949E95A28CA58BA686C864CC64D162D15DD55FD557EE3EF339F73DEF42EC47EC40F243F344F13B121A1A161637F537F342
[18:15] <PE2BZ> $E7BA99EB295B28F9D949E93A58DA48AAF87A590A291A688A987AD7FCF5DD35DD85BD856DC5DDB51F438F933FD37F53CF241F23AF83DFA3DF33914181C141835F735F540
[18:15] <PE2BZ> Would that ring a bell for anyone ?
[18:19] <SpeedEvil> That's hex, so you have as a first guess 170 or so
[18:19] <SpeedEvil> err
[18:19] <SpeedEvil> 70
[18:23] <PE2BZ> Hi SpeedEvil. It´s from a wav file, received in the 439 MHz band, at the same moment the dutch balloon hunt was happening last year. One hunter followed this frequency with his radio direction finder instead of the beacons on 2 meter, and ended at the same location. So ¨we¨ assume it contains the GPS location for the organisation. Hacking the code was allowed ;-)
[18:24] <SpeedEvil> ah
[18:27] <PE2BZ> I had the position strings available for the 2014 flight, like $GPGGA,110008.28,5205.989,N,00510.655,E,1,04,1.22,137,M,40,M,,*52 and I made the assumption that it should be possible to find the repeating characters, like the colons, in the hex code. However there are 10 colons in the position strings and not 10 repeating hex values in ¨my hex code¨. So I did not get anywhere ;-)
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[18:40] <Rharrison_> daveake, you out there
[18:40] Action: Rharrison_ nods to SpeedEvil
[18:40] <Rharrison_> Upu, ?
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[18:41] <Rharrison_> i'm trying to get PITS using lora and I think by default it trys to use MTX2/NTX2B
[18:41] <PE2BZ> For TX ?
[18:41] <PE2BZ> Enable_RTTY=n
[18:42] <Rharrison_> Yep
[18:43] <PE2BZ> Almost.... In the /boot/pisky.txt there is a line Disable_RTTY=
[18:43] <Rharrison_> hum where is the config file
[18:43] <tweetBot> @philcrump2: Look what just arrived in the post! #ukhas https://t.co/QZRGthLbXj
[18:44] <Rharrison_> tweetBot, cool
[18:44] <PE2BZ> If you did not edit that file then you also have to edit the LoRa frequency and perhaps DIO values for the corresponding module you want to TX
[18:44] <Rharrison_> PE2BZ, thanks
[18:45] <PE2BZ> Your welcome. AFK for the night...
[18:45] <craag> https://twitter.com/philcrump2/status/763445708343087104
[18:46] <craag> (it's got the distinct aroma of sea)
[18:47] <LeoBodnar> :D aliens
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[18:48] <craag> ah it did post it
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[18:48] <fsphil> if you put it to your ear can you hear the sea? :)
[18:49] <fsphil> can't imagine there's much left inside
[18:49] <LeoBodnar> continuous waves
[18:51] <Rebounder> fsphil: maybe a vacuum
[18:51] <tweetBot> @philcrump2: Everything looking a bit rusty (and fragrant!) but let's pry out that SD card.. #ukhas https://t.co/DgOSUWt6P2
[18:52] <fsphil> oooh nasty
[18:52] <craag> a little contact-scraping required
[18:53] <tweetBot> @daveake: A #RaspberryPi tracker after floating in the sea for a while ... https://t.co/IVVffVqbla
[18:54] <craag> here goes..
[18:54] <craag> hmm doesn't see it - back to scraping
[18:58] <craag> still no luck - trying another laptop
[18:59] <craag> oo windows sees the boot partition
[19:00] <craag> but linux thinkpad sees nothing, no dmesg entries even
[19:00] <craag> brb rebooting
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[19:02] <BrianB_> Does anyone have links to transmitters/payloads for Pico balloons? Thanks...
[19:04] <mfa298> BrianB_: people generally make their own for pico balloons as they generally need to be lightweight
[19:05] <mfa298> although what's considered pico can vary depending on where you are
[19:05] <tweetBot> @philcrump2: Some microSD contact-scraping later.. YES!!! (8.4GB / 2090 of. 12MP images) #ukhas https://t.co/iLpW03jvXp
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[19:05] <fsphil> oh fantastic
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[19:06] <craag> several of the boat :D
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[19:07] <fsphil> many on the water?
[19:08] <mfa298> I'd be worried if the boat wasn't on the water :p
[19:09] <craag> no, there's a blurry one of it hitting the water, then 4x (20s worth..) of 0B image files..
[19:10] <fsphil> ah didn't last long then
[19:10] <craag> no, looks like it was a bit choppy
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[19:11] <craag> I wonder if there's actually image data underneath those 0B files
[19:11] <craag> anyway gonna ddrescue the disk
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[19:20] <Rharrison_> hum I cant get this PITS to tx lora !
[19:23] <Rharrison_> any one know if you have to do something special to get CE1 working rather than CE0 ?
[19:25] <daveake> Use the _1 settings instead of _0
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[19:55] <Rharrison_> daveake, Ok CE1 os the 98 chip which I guess should txt on 434.250
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[19:56] <Rharrison_> http://pastebin.com/qUi0xheY
[19:57] <Rharrison_> This is my /boot/pisky.txt
[19:57] <Rharrison_> Running on Rasb Pi 2
[20:00] <Vaizki> I'm guessing you need to define the _0 variables for lora
[20:00] <Vaizki> not the _1 ones. if you have only one Lora.
[20:01] <Rharrison_> I have 2 lora CE0 is 869Mhz and CE1 is 434MHz
[20:01] <Vaizki> Ok ignore me my irc client didn't show daveake response at first :)
[20:01] <Rharrison_> Vaizki, cheers :-)
[20:02] <Rharrison_> It's frustrating me now!
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[20:06] <daveake> You just need
[20:06] <daveake> LORA_Frequency_1=434.250
[20:06] <daveake> LORA_Payload_1=ICARUS2
[20:06] <daveake> LORA_Mode_1=1
[20:06] <daveake> Comment out the rest
[20:07] <Rharrison_> :-)
[20:07] <Rharrison_> xxx
[20:07] <daveake> Those are used for TDM
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[20:09] <Rharrison_> hehe it works))))
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[20:09] <Rharrison_> Well I can see stuff on airspy
[20:09] <Rharrison_> now to wake the gw up
[20:11] <daveake> cool
[20:11] <daveake> GW needs same setting for frequency and mode
[20:12] <daveake> If it fails to rx, try tuning up 4kHz; if that fails tune down 4kHz from the original setting
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[20:18] <Rharrison_> Humm gw not playing ball!
[20:18] <Rharrison_> http://pastebin.com/wCscmbXK
[20:18] <Rharrison_> This is the gateway settings
[20:21] <daveake> Comment out the DIO lines
[20:21] <daveake> Those are only needed if you have one of the (various) prototypes
[20:22] <Rharrison_> ahh
[20:22] <Rharrison_> Funny enough it works now :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[20:22] <Rharrison_> Thanks, I will document
[20:23] <Rharrison_> daveake, Nice !!!
[20:23] <daveake> np :)
[20:23] <Rharrison_> lora is nasty to listen too
[20:23] <daveake> mode 0 is quite tuneful
[20:25] <Rharrison_> can I flick then to both mode 0 and it should work?
[20:27] <Rharrison_> Seams a lot slower but v tunefull indeed
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[20:28] <Rharrison_> and yes it does work if both are on 0
[20:31] <daveake> yes both sides need to be the same setting
[20:32] <Rharrison_> Is that a whole lot slower rate?
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[21:12] <Rharrison_> daveake, is there a way to tun off the LORA0 SSTV mode?
[21:13] <daveake> yes
[21:13] <Rharrison_> It's not in the config file?
[21:13] <daveake> it is
[21:13] <daveake> LORA_image_packets_1=0
[21:14] <daveake> that disables images on that channel
[21:15] <daveake> oh you said lora0
[21:15] <daveake> LORA_image_packets_0=0
[21:15] <Rharrison_> hum I'm still getting LORA0 SSDV mode
[21:15] <Rharrison_> after setting LORA_image_packets_0=0
[21:17] <daveake> No that should do it
[21:17] <daveake> The code checks it with
[21:17] <daveake> if (Config.Channels[Channel].Enabled && (Config.Channels[Channel].ImagePackets > 0))
[21:18] <Rharrison_> http://pastebin.com/Nm31wkMU
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[21:19] <Rharrison_> Is it those pesky DIO5 & 5 setting?
[21:19] <daveake> no
[21:20] <daveake> And you think it's still sending image packets?
[21:20] <Rharrison_> no it seems to stop sending anything after 10 lines and I thought it might be thinking it was in ssdv mode
[21:20] <Rharrison_> esp as I keep getting CRC errors
[21:20] <Rharrison_> on the GW
[21:21] <daveake> Why do you have those DIO0/5 lines in there?
[21:21] <daveake> The defaults match current hardware
[21:22] <Rharrison_> I don't in the config but they come up with the info on the PITS Computer
[21:22] <Rharrison_> See the bottom of the paste bin above
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[21:23] <Rharrison_> Thats the output from the tracker when I run it
[21:23] <daveake> oh sorry I thought you were setting them
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[21:27] <daveake> Something in my head is telling me I had to make a change recently to make it work when images are disabled
[21:27] <daveake> I'll check tomorrow
[21:27] <daveake> istr it kept wanting to send an image packet but didn't have one
[21:27] <Rharrison_> Ok np
[21:28] <Rharrison_> I'll have a look at the code tomorrow
[21:29] <Rharrison_> The leds don't seam to mean anything either :-) I'll have a look and see if I can get them working
[21:29] <Rharrison_> Ie if the radio is active they light up
[21:31] <swaledale_steve> Rharrison_ Looks to me like your gateway is set to listen to 434 but you've only commented out lora0 which is your 869 channel. You need to add a line for LoRa_image_packets_1=0 to turn off the 434 images too that your gateway is probable hearing.
[21:32] <swaledale_steve> Also the pin references for the LED's are wrong by default, from memory they need shifting up one or two. Will check my config tomorrow.
[21:33] <swaledale_steve> *sorry where I said commented out above, I actually meant 'you've only disabled' instead. Been a long few days.
[21:34] <Rharrison_> swaledale_steve, LORA1 seems to be working fine with no images
[21:35] <Rharrison_> but somehow LORA0 keeps crashing after 10 TX and the blurb at the beginning suggests that SSDV is still on
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[21:38] <swaledale_steve> Wonder if it's because mode is set to 1.
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[23:03] <Rharrison_> im ready for the next lora hab now :-)
[23:04] <Rharrison_> Thanks daveake et al
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