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[02:47] <DoYouKnow> hi. I just installed Linux and I need to update my ublox firmware, is there any way to do this without u-center?
[02:47] <DoYouKnow> or am I going to need a windows VM?
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[02:55] <Darkside> u-center should run within wine i think
[02:55] <Darkside> i've communicated with a ublox using u-center under wine
[02:56] <Darkside> but havent tried to update firmware
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[04:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-12 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-12
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[06:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[06:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03help_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=help_chase
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[08:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP9UOB - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB
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[08:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K6TVT-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6TVT-12
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[09:06] <Maxell> bertrik: will you be able to tune up to the uX0 backup transmitter? It's setup on the right frequency!
[09:06] <Maxell> Backup: uX0: 434.350MHz 425Hz shift 50baud 7N1 RTTY
[09:08] <Maxell> Launch around lunchtime, so I might be back in time.
[09:30] <Rharrison_> Maxell, where are you launching from?
[09:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP9UOB-10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-10
[09:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-16 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-16
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[10:19] <PE2BZ> !flights
[10:19] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03XABEN-103 10(dd2f), 03PICO-27 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(11ba)
[10:20] <PE2BZ> !whereis 11ba
[10:20] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: I haven't got a clue
[10:21] <PE2BZ> !payload dd2f
[10:21] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03X0 10(dd2f) 03$$X0 - 03434.405 MHz USB 03RTTY 75/488Hz ASCII-7 none 2
[10:21] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03uX0 10(dd2f) 03$$uX0 - 03434.35 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/470Hz ASCII-7 none 1
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[10:40] <pb0ahx> mogge Ben
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[10:52] <PE2BZ> GM Herman
[10:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03uX0 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=uX0
[11:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[11:26] <pb0ahx> !flights
[11:26] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03XABEN-103 10(dd2f), 03PICO-27 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(11ba)
[11:26] <pb0ahx> !payload dd2f
[11:26] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Payload 03X0 10(dd2f) 03$$X0 - 03434.405 MHz USB 03RTTY 75/488Hz ASCII-7 none 2
[11:26] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Payload 03uX0 10(dd2f) 03$$uX0 - 03434.35 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/470Hz ASCII-7 none 1
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[11:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6NVB-11 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6NVB-11
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[11:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BMB2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BMB2
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[11:47] <AndyEsser> gah... I hate code, and I hate hardware
[11:47] Action: AndyEsser goes and becomes an artist
[11:49] <gonzo_p> I just hate computers. They'll never carch on
[11:49] <gonzo_p> catch
[11:49] <AndyEsser> heh
[11:50] <AndyEsser> gonzo_p: is your shift in fldigi still being weird?
[11:51] <Ron_g8fjg> AndyEsser /new artist ...would that be in a small fishing village where the skies are blue and the air is fresh?
[11:51] <AndyEsser> Ron_g8fjg: that sounds amazing, however I suspect I'm missing a reference?
[11:52] <Ron_g8fjg> no just where I'd rather be today!
[11:52] <AndyEsser> ah
[11:53] <AndyEsser> code that was working 'perfectly' fine last night, now hangs trying to set the I2C read address
[11:53] <AndyEsser> *sigh*
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[12:12] <RocketBoy> xaben-103 launched
[12:13] <pb0ahx> GL Xaben team
[12:13] <RocketBoy> had to use a spare tracker X1 on 434.450
[12:13] <RocketBoy> very windy
[12:14] <Steve_G0TDJ> Whats the estimated max alt of uX0 please?
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[12:20] <gonzo_p> freq for the rtty ? .350?
[12:21] <number10> 450
[12:21] <Ron_g8fjg> X1 434.448 50/780 7n2 works
[12:21] <number10> or backup on 350
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[12:22] <number10> there are two gonzo_p 346 and 449
[12:23] <gonzo_p> ta. nothing here on either yet
[12:23] <gonzo_p> thought it was lora on one freq
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[12:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0HIP-7 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
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[12:29] <pb0ahx> strange green lines here but not in the list
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[12:33] <PE2BZ> same for me ?
[12:34] <pb0ahx> strange Ben here good signaal and upload al ok
[12:34] <pb0ahx> but no writing on the map
[12:37] <Ron_g8fjg> the payload telemetry stats dont show either of you http://habitat.habhub.org/stats/
[12:38] <PE2BZ> perhaps we are filtered out in the stats because of flooding the tail log for the LoRa tracker ?
[12:38] <pb0ahx> :-((
[12:39] <Ron_g8fjg> are you decoding uXO or X1
[12:39] <pb0ahx> X1
[12:39] <PE2BZ> X1 me too (that sounds like a pokemon...)
[12:40] <Ron_g8fjg> it doesnt show ...last min alteration
[12:40] <Ron_g8fjg> only uX0 shows
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[12:41] <pb0ahx> now X0
[12:41] <PE2BZ> which QRG ?
[12:41] <pb0ahx> 348 Ben
[12:41] <Ron_g8fjg> 434.347
[12:42] <Ron_g8fjg> 347.900
[12:42] <PE2BZ> To much figures behind the decimal ;-)
[12:42] <PE2BZ> 50 bd and not 75 I noticed
[12:42] <pb0ahx> but wy X1 is not on the map writing ??
[12:43] <Ron_g8fjg> I thought you wanted accurary Ben
[12:44] <Ron_g8fjg> c
[12:44] <PE2BZ> I am one hand glued to my glue gun .... AFC will do the rest ;-)
[12:45] <Ron_g8fjg> shame ..X1 very stable
[12:45] <PE2BZ> you make me type answers with one hand ....
[12:46] <PE2BZ> Have to build a PSU with 24 V AC, 18 V DC for LNB and DC pass and block for a 10 GHz LNB combined with SDR...
[12:46] <Ron_g8fjg> and I really should put my glasses on before I tipe
[12:47] <PE2BZ> And I would like a glue gun with a ¨true stop button¨ ...
[12:49] <Ron_g8fjg> whatever you do done "test" it with your finger!!
[12:49] <Ron_g8fjg> dont
[12:49] <Ron_g8fjg> see no glasses
[12:51] <bertrik> !dial
[12:51] <SpacenearUS> 03bertrik: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[12:51] Action: PE2BZ is distributing a lot of glass fuses in his PSU
[12:52] <PE2BZ> bertrik !dial ¨flightname¨
[12:52] <PE2BZ> !flights
[12:52] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03XABEN-103 10(dd2f), 03PICO-27 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(11ba)
[12:52] <PE2BZ> !dial dd2f
[12:52] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03X0 10(dd2f): 03644.297 MHz
[12:52] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03uX0 10(dd2f): 03144.574741 MHz, 434.34776 MHz, 434.3482 MHz, 434.45 MHz, 434.34712 MHz, 434.347493 MHz, 434.347877 MHz, 434.34755 MHz, 434.347396 MHz
[12:52] <bertrik> !dial uX0
[12:52] <SpacenearUS> 03bertrik: Latest dials for 03uX0 10(dd2f): 03144.574741 MHz, 434.34776 MHz, 434.3482 MHz, 434.45 MHz, 434.34712 MHz, 434.347493 MHz, 434.347877 MHz, 434.34755 MHz, 434.347396 MHz
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[13:25] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi, whats the dial for ux0?
[13:25] <AndyEsser> !dial X0
[13:25] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Latest dials for 03X0 10(dd2f): 03644.297 MHz
[13:25] <AndyEsser> !dial uX0
[13:25] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Latest dials for 03uX0 10(dd2f): 03434.348112 MHz, 144.560561 MHz, 434.347035 MHz, 434.34628 MHz, 434.347259 MHz, 644.297 MHz, 434.347493 MHz, 434.3475 MHz, 434.34755 MHz
[13:25] <OZ1SKY_Brian> thanks andy
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[13:31] <AndyEsser> EwanP: when are you leaving?
[13:32] <EwanP> AndyEsser: Some time after 6 I think, MrsP is finishing her soldering and I'm trying to get my LoRa tracker working :-(
[13:33] <AndyEsser> Ok, about the same time I'm planning on shooting off - make sure I give you your stuff back :)
[13:34] <EwanP> NP. Will you be launching?
[13:34] <AndyEsser> As it stands at the moment, no - I2C has completely b0rked :(
[13:36] <EwanP> Anything from my toy box that could help?
[13:37] <EwanP> General question what should be the settings for a PITS LoRa gateway for uXO?
[13:37] <AndyEsser> An LA would help to find out what the i2c lines are doing, but to be honest, it's far too bright and warm to be faffing
[13:38] <AndyEsser> !dial uX0
[13:38] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Latest dials for 03uX0 10(dd2f): 03434.348112 MHz, 144.560561 MHz, 434.34639 MHz, 434.34755 MHz, 434.3478 MHz, 434.347493 MHz, 434.347212 MHz, 434.45 MHz, 434.347259 MHz, 22.279601 MHz, 434.3477 MHz
[13:39] <PE2BZ> EwanP ux0 does not carry LoRa as far as I know
[13:39] <Maxell> Pure rtty backup
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[13:43] <space_byte> hey guys, has anyone used the "BerryImu" or "Adafruit 10-DOF"? Do you suggest anything else? Thanks
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[13:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WO9N-7 after 0313 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WO9N-7
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[14:18] <RocketBoy> looks like my primary tracker has packed up
[14:18] <number10> I have lost uX0 signal - X1 still there
[14:18] <RocketBoy> I have a backup on 434.447
[14:18] <number10> probably needs someone to add X1 as a payload doc
[14:19] <RocketBoy> please
[14:19] <RocketBoy> cheers
[14:20] <pb0ahx> Xaben team mni tnx for flight was a good one for my test antenne
[14:21] <number10> its still flying on 434.45 pb0ahx
[14:22] <pb0ahx> 448 here tnx
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[14:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03X1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=X1
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[14:36] <Guest25364> Do people usually add handwarmers to their payloads?
[14:39] <PE2BZ> Usually the heat of the electronics inside the styropor does keep the temperature ok. I do know that some type of radiosondes add 2 small waterbottles to the battery compartment as buffer for the temperature
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[14:41] <PE2BZ> http://www.vaisala.com/Vaisala%20Documents/Brochures%20and%20Datasheets/Dry-cell-20Battery-20Set-20RSB511-20datasheet-202005.pdf
[14:43] <craag> Guest25364: No, most handwarmers don't work outside the atmosphere
[14:44] <craag> and actually a lot of modern cameras will overheat easily in the lock of atmosphere by themselves
[14:44] <Guest25364> Oh right. So a polystyrene box is enough to protect all the electronics
[14:48] <craag> Yes that's what most of us use
[14:48] <craag> with just holes cut for the camera lenses looking out
[14:48] <craag> gopro4 in 4K mode however needs to be exposed or it *will* overheat
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[15:03] <Guest25364> How clear of obstacles does the launch site need to be. We are aiming to launch from our school field, which is quite big but is surrounded by trees
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[15:05] <number10> depends on the ground wind at the time Guest25364
[15:07] <samme> Hi. how can I connect yagi antenna(with bnc connector) to my laptop instead of SDR dongle for SDR#?
[15:08] <number10> Guest25364: some basic geometry should give you a clue
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[15:09] <BubUK> Greetings
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[15:11] <mfa298> samme: I'm not sure your question makes sense, what are you trying to do ?
[15:11] <BubUK> Looking for some advice on lora-gateway. Any experts around ?
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[15:13] <RocketBoy> XABEN-103 recovered OK
[15:13] <RocketBoy> bbl
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[15:14] <samme> mfa298: I want to check my payload antenna and since my SDR dongle wont be efficient for long distance, I m planning to use a yagi antenna
[15:15] <mfa298> I think you've got some confused terminology there.
[15:16] <mfa298> the SDR dongle is what converts the radio waves into something your computer can understand
[15:16] <samme> ohhh -.-"
[15:16] <mfa298> the cheap option being the rtlsdr, but others being airspy, funcube, sdrplay
[15:17] <samme> mfa298: but rtlsdr do not working for long distance, do they?
[15:18] <mfa298> the rtlsdr isn't as good as some of the others.
[15:18] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> The dongle works the same, but you need a better aerial for receiving from a longer range
[15:18] <mfa298> but can still work
[15:18] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> the small whip aerial the dongle comes with is very poor
[15:19] <samme> but I was told by someone on here that using yagi and good radio, long distance can be achieved
[15:19] <mfa298> the antenna (either the small magmount whip you get with the rtlsdr or a yagi) converts the radio waves into an electrical signal the sdr/radio can use
[15:20] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Yes you need a better (Yagi) aerial for longer distance, but a Dongle will work fine, I use 19 element Yagi and an RTLSDR dongle to Rx over 300Km+
[15:20] <samme> mfa298: how to connect a yagi?
[15:20] <mfa298> For the chase car you'll probably want a good magmount whip and either a decent SDR or good radio.
[15:21] <mfa298> yagi is of more use on a house (with rotator) or handheld chasing once the balloon is down and you're relatively close
[15:21] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> They use the same co-ax as any other aerial, you may have to adapt sizes to fit what connector is on the dongle
[15:22] <mfa298> the yagi will either have a connector on it (SMA/BNC/N) or some coax and connector. You then plug that into the SDR/Radio (possibly with an adapter)
[15:22] <samme> i have a bnc connector
[15:22] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Is rthat on the DOngle - BNC ?
[15:22] <samme> yes! thats what I want to know, how to plug the connector to SDR
[15:22] <mfa298> so dependign on what your connecting it to you either just plug it in or use a suitable adapter
[15:23] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Then fit a BNC onto the co-as from the Yagi aerial
[15:23] <samme> BNC connector on yagi antenna
[15:23] <mfa298> !wiki rf_connectors
[15:23] <SpacenearUS> 03mfa298: Wiki page 03rf_connectors (guides) - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:rf_connectors
[15:24] <mfa298> that link has some of the common connectors on it
[15:24] <mfa298> although needs more pictures
[15:25] <mfa298> samme: what are you plugging it into
[15:26] <samme> http://www.dx.com/p/mini-dvb-t-digital-tv-usb-dongle-stick-w-fm-dab-dab-remote-control-black-silver-213240#.V6dTBlUrLIU
[15:26] <samme> this is my sdr dongle
[15:26] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Which type of connector does it have the picture is not clear looks like SMA or MCX ?
[15:26] <mfa298> for that you'll want to find an MCX to bnc adapter (or pigtail)
[15:28] <mfa298> although if you stick with that dongle you may also want an MCX to SMA adapter/pigtail so you can put a habamp in the middle as well
[15:29] <samme> i didnt know about the pin and UKHAS rf connector page...now I got the idea
[15:29] <samme> didnt get the last part :/
[15:30] <Guest25364> habamps remove a lot of the noise. Which there will be with most sdr dongles
[15:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> samme: where do u live I?l have a bunch of mcx to bnc, I?l send u one free
[15:30] <Guest25364> https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=53
[15:30] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Umm, not quite the normal way of expressing it, the HabAmp can improve the Singal to Noise ratio
[15:31] <samme> manchester
[15:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> pm me your adress and I post it tomorrow
[15:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> and u have it in a copuple of dat
[15:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> days
[15:31] <samme> wow! great. thanks...btw how do u pm here? -_-
[15:32] <SA6BSS-Mike> what irc program are u using?? or just mail me your adress mikael_dagman@hotmail.com
[15:33] <samme> not sure about what program xD...will mail u
[15:36] <BubUK> Has anyone here had experience of a pi with lora board by any chance?
[15:36] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> I use a couple of them ?
[15:37] <BubUK> I had a piinthesky working (eventually). Added the lora board on top but gateway doesn't seem to be working. Doubtless a newbie issue
[15:38] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> In what way "not working" ?
[15:38] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Does the gateway see the board ?
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[15:39] <BubUK> green light on pits indicates gps is good. Gateway sees board. Not showing any packets
[15:39] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Have you set the frequency and the modes correctly ?
[15:39] <BubUK> Listening on port 6004 and nowt else
[15:39] <BubUK> I think so
[15:40] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> port 6004 ?
[15:40] <BubUK> When lora gateway runs, what happened to the pits tracker software. Is that still running?
[15:41] <BubUK> Port 6094. It's the last entry on the screen.
[15:41] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> The PITS tracker is what flies, the Gateway stays on the ground ?
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[15:41] <BubUK> Yes
[15:41] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> you can't use the Pits tracker AND the gateway on the same machine
[15:42] <BubUK> What a donut. Knew I was missing something obvious. Images on Dave's site show both connected though don't they ?
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[15:44] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Not sure which images your reffereing to
[15:46] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> These are TWO gateways each LoRa board on a seperate Pi http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/LoRa/index.php?ind=1
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[15:46] <BubUK> I'm very confused now. The pi with pits board is launched. Whats the point of the lora board then?
[15:47] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> To talk to another Pi (the Gateway) with its own LoRa board connected to it on the ground
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[15:48] <BubUK> In place of me using my scanner in usb mode with laptop?
[15:48] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> The Gateway Receives the LoRA decodes it in the chips and then sends it out to the servers hence its a Gateway
[15:49] <BubUK> Oh wait. Lora is just for habhub
[15:49] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> The PITS hardware and software (with a LoRaboard) flies on the balloon.
[15:49] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Another LoRA board plugged into a Pi forming the GAteway receives the signal.
[15:49] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> on the ground
[15:50] <BubUK> So I need two lora boards and 1 flies with the pits
[15:51] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Yes the Radio and Modem are all built into the RFM chip itself, so you need pne on the Balloon and one on the ground.
[15:51] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Not sure about the PITS LoRa board it maynot be the same layout as the one on the PITS
[15:52] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> as is used on the Gateway
[15:52] <BubUK> So the lora is connected to the pits. I just need another one on the ground. The one on the ground rubs the gateway software, the one on the balloon runs the pits tracker ?
[15:53] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Yes!
[15:53] <BubUK> The balloon doesn't run the tracker software then?
[15:54] <BubUK> Sorry, balloon doesn't run gateway only tracker
[15:54] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> There are TWO sets of software PITS and GATEWAY one on the balloon, one on the ground
[15:54] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Yes that's right
[15:55] <BubUK> This would have made a lot more sense if the supplier sold them in pairs ! They're useless on their own.
[15:55] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Why sell them in pairs I don't have a PITS nor likely to need one ?
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[15:57] <BubUK> Good question. I got it from the people supplying pits so it looks like I just need 1. They don't make it at all clear. Or, are assuming everyone knows what they're doing
[15:57] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Well it does help if you know what your doing ;-)
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[15:58] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> http://www.pi-in-the-sky.com/index.php?id=making-a-lora-tracker
[15:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> http://www.pi-in-the-sky.com/index.php?id=making-a-lora-gateway
[15:59] <BubUK> Yes. But we all gotta start somewhere and the pits bit works fine
[15:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Seems quite clear what you need for each above
[16:00] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> The boards look the same other than no SMA connectors on the Tracker board to save weight
[16:00] <BubUK> It does once you realise that gateway and tracker and not the same thing :-)
[16:04] <BubUK> The tracker board has no antenna?
[16:05] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> You tend to build that into the payload structure, with a simple pig-tail connection
[16:05] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> on the gateway your plugging in an externa; aerial so it makes sense to use a standard plug - SMA
[16:13] <BubUK> Thank you for your kind assistance. I'll get another board and see how I get on.
[16:14] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Yes to test locally you will need a second board.
[16:16] <BubUK> Ordered just now. I'll probably lose / destroy the whole lot the first time it flies :-)
[16:16] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Another reason for not selling in pairs ;-) One per non-recovered balloon only!
[16:17] <BubUK> Haha. Very true!
[16:20] <daveake> BubUK: The LoRa board is sold individually because some people only receive from balloons, and don't actually launch them
[16:20] <BubUK> Yes, I get that now. It all seems so obvious on reflection!
[16:20] <daveake> Plus some might make up several gateways or might make up several payload trackers
[16:22] <daveake> The obvious bit is that you need something on the ground to receive whatever the balloon is sending :-). With RTTY (as on the PITS board) that might be a ham radio or SDR, plus some decoding software. For LoRa the receiving hardware is exactly the same as the transmitting hardware.
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[16:22] <BubUK> Yeah. Got it now. Thank you. What's the best antenna fir the ground based lora then ?
[16:23] <BubUK> Back in a few mins
[16:23] <daveake> There's no difference between an antenna for lora and one for rtty
[16:24] <daveake> Which is best depends on circumstances, but for a fixed installation generally a collinear is best.
[16:24] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> For chasing in a car a simple magmount, but less likely perhaps to need a small Yagi for DF at the end unless your running RTTY as well as LoRa.
[16:25] <daveake> Yagi is handy anyway if the payload is a distance away, or in a valley without LOS to the closest road, or the payload antenna fell off :/
[16:25] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Very true!
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[16:30] <bilo> =)
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[17:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CHEAPO - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHEAPO
[17:04] <craag> EMF Launch #2 coming up
[17:04] <craag> (CHEAPO 434.300)
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[17:06] <tweetBot> @philcrump2: .@M6EDF soldering up a 434MHz RTTY Tracker for @emfcamp HAB Launch #2, soon from HABville! #ukhas https://t.co/CMaVZSUV7M
[17:27] <tweetBot> @philcrump2: .@LeadHyperion filling the balloon for the second and final @emfcamp launch, currently at HABville! #ukhas https://t.co/mGJiGoyf35
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[17:33] <chrisstubbsm> Can someone please approve flight doc 846725ddaff6b6b0e1bf187a1647566c
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[17:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0NCG_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0NCG_chase
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[17:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-16 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-16
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[18:03] <fsphil> CHEAPO in the air
[18:05] <PE2BZ> Good news, good flight !
[18:11] <pb0ahx> Team Cheapo gl
[18:11] <fsphil> the hab team. they need a theme tune
[18:16] <PE1ANS> !flights
[18:16] <SpacenearUS> 03PE1ANS: Current flights: 03XABEN-103 10(dd2f), 03EMF Sun (actually on sunday) 10(566c), 03PICO-27 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(11ba)
[18:17] <fsphil> the sun's always out at emf
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[18:20] <PE1ANS> some one info aboud Cheapo??
[18:21] <craag> PE1ANS: 434.300
[18:21] <craag> same params as emfsun
[18:21] <PE1ANS> TNX
[18:22] Action: PE2BZ hums the pink panther tune, replacing every word with HAB .... Hab habhab, habhabhabhabhabhab and so on....
[18:28] <Maxell> !dial CHEAPO
[18:28] <SpacenearUS> 03Maxell: Latest dials for 03CheapoPico 220515 10(566c): 03434.2961 MHz
[18:28] <Maxell> nice
[18:31] <tweetBot> @AmsatUK: From M0DNY. Presumably freq near 434.300 MHz USB Track at https://t.co/ky2yNTviCb #emfcamp #hamradio #hamr @emfcamp https://t.co/BkdDRodyWj
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[18:47] <fsphil> unsurprisingly, no signal at gatwick. pretty sure I'm on the wrong side of the building
[18:50] <Upu> !track CHEAPO
[18:50] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Here you go - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHEAPO
[18:50] <PE2BZ> Nice signal here in Holland from about 4400 meter and up
[18:50] <Upu> !dial CHEAPO
[18:51] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Latest dials for 03CheapoPico 220515 10(566c): 03144.559556 MHz, 434.29658 MHz, 434.29751 MHz, 434.45 MHz
[18:51] <fsphil> interesting, I've got some audio signals here that start with a telephone ring sound
[18:52] Action: PE2BZ thinks that fsphil does not recognize someone is calling him. Hello, how are you....
[18:53] <fsphil> just the airport staff radio
[18:54] <fsphil> must be linked to the phone system
[18:57] <bertrik> what shift are you using for CHEAPO?
[18:58] <bertrik> yay, first green on CHEAPO for revspace receiver
[18:59] <fsphil> hah, I'm hearing CHEAPO from gatwick
[19:01] <fsphil> actually that might be a bad thing :)
[19:01] <fsphil> it's 30km away
[19:01] <daveake> You're missing robot wars
[19:02] <fsphil> yeah. flight has been delays again, thought I'd get time to watch it but the internet is too slow
[19:02] <fsphil> delayed*
[19:03] <bertrik> we're on 470 Hz shift now
[19:04] <Maxell> pb0ahx: very strong and already decoding!
[19:05] <pb0ahx> yep now here also must first writing satelliete
[19:06] <Maxell> :P
[19:06] <Maxell> haha yeah suffcient hab trackers so it will be fine
[19:06] <Maxell> floater?
[19:06] <tweetBot> @fsphil: Tracking CHEAPO from Gatwick. Not suspicious looking at all. #ukhas #emfcamp https://t.co/HS6NJOtY3P
[19:06] <fsphil> bit fast for that size balloon
[19:06] <fsphil> but should at least get a decent altitude
[19:08] <Maxell> damn M0DNY tracking from his bag w/ just small dummyload
[19:08] <fsphil> wrong phil :)
[19:09] <fsphil> this is a much better signal than yesterdays
[19:10] <bertrik> it seems it's drifting down now
[19:10] <fsphil> nothing heard on 869.500
[19:11] <bertrik> but it is a very nice signal indeed, we received and decoded it before the blue circle reached our tracker location
[19:11] <fsphil> mmm
[19:11] <fsphil> I struggled from the field yesterday with a better antenna
[19:11] <fsphil> though it was quite RF noisy
[19:12] <Maxell> retune your receivers! quite drifty downwards
[19:12] <fsphil> right, battery running out. off to seek a power point
[19:12] <Maxell> fsphil: uhm yes. Had the fortune of doing this once tracking with little whip.
[19:13] <tweetBot> @AmsatUK: Phil MI0VIM tracking @emfcamp CHEAPO balloon from Gatwick airport #emfcamp #hamradio #hamr https://t.co/fJx6qknn4v https://t.co/IYYJPsmNVT
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[19:14] <Maxell> o/
[19:15] Nick change: Guest45131 -> ryan_in
[19:17] <Rharrison_> !dial cheapo
[19:17] <SpacenearUS> 03Rharrison_: Latest dials for 03CheapoPico 220515 10(566c): 03434.29606 MHz, 434.29698 MHz, 434.45 MHz, 434.296596 MHz, 434.297207 MHz, 434.297097 MHz
[19:17] <mightymik> 7e2?
[19:19] <fsphil> power acquired
[19:21] <fsphil> my flight's been delayed again. grumble
[19:21] <Rharrison_> fsphil, you launching?
[19:21] <fsphil> Rharrison_: yeah, myself :) via easyjet
[19:22] <Rharrison_> lol
[19:24] <fsphil> I didn't get a payload ready in time for emf, but after seeing what everyone had brought I could probably have got it going
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[19:38] <mightymik> what mode for cheepo? 7n2?
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[19:38] <fsphil> autoconfigure seems to do the right thing
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[19:48] <bertrik> mightymik: we set it for 470 Hz shift
[19:49] <mightymik> have dl version now ... thanks
[20:03] <pb0ahx> om 22:21 komt de satelliet weer dan draaien mijn antennes weg van de ballon
[20:06] <Upu> flight mode not set on Cheapo ?
[20:07] <Maxell> CHEAPO drifting up!!
[20:08] <Rharrison_> !flights
[20:08] <SpacenearUS> 03Rharrison_: Current flights: 03XABEN-103 10(dd2f), 03EMF Sun (actually on sunday) 10(566c), 03PICO-27 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(11ba)
[20:10] <Rharrison_> why is the received for cheepo saying 10mins ago
[20:11] <Upu> its not updating position
[20:11] <Upu> suspect flight mode not set
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[20:13] <Rharrison_> ahh good point the -33 and the fact that it's taken 12 minutes for the data to reach me according to the GPS time in the string. I'm sure that would be a record :-)
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[20:14] <Upu> yup :)
[20:14] <Upu> its drifting like an RFM22B in a freezer
[20:18] <PA0RPA> Temperature up there is -33 degrees celcius , would you like to be in there !
[20:24] <Vaizki> thank you Mr. Data :)
[20:24] <Vaizki> and btw I like it here even though it sometimes goes to -33
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[20:26] <PA0RPA> You are kidding I presume, and by the way, I like to be Scotty, not Mr. Data !
[20:27] <Vaizki> about liking it or -33? I'm afraid at least the latter is no joke :)
[20:28] <PA0RPA> Indeed, thats no joke, very cold.....
[20:29] <Vaizki> it's ok if there is no wind. and usually there isn't. unlike at 14km ASL
[20:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> its tx:in the same data over and over
[20:35] <Vaizki> maybe gps is not giving valid fixes then
[20:35] <Vaizki> too bad :(
[20:37] <SA6BSS-Mike> iirc the chepo does a sw reseet every 20 sntences, but I think it only the radiomodule that resets
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[20:39] <Rharrison_> what is the gps on the payload?
[20:42] <craag> Rharrison_: ublox neo6
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[20:42] <craag> quite an old one
[20:42] <Rharrison_> Ahh oh dear !
[20:42] <chrisstubbs> Yes it only power cycles the rmf22b
[20:43] <Rharrison_> Nice clear signal :-)
[20:43] <Rharrison_> I getting it here in huddersfield just fine
[20:43] <chrisstubbs> Yeah I still have it clear from EMF
[20:43] <jcoxon> is it a ublox issue
[20:43] <jcoxon> above 12km
[20:46] <chrisstubbs> I dont know what firmware I had loaded on this board, it was just an old one I threw on with Phil's node
[20:46] <chrisstubbs> might be flight mode, I think I did have a problem with the NEO6 coming out of flight mode in the past.
[20:47] <chrisstubbs> the status 11 means flight mode was set on boot, but it may have come out/restarted at some stage
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[20:49] <Maxell> :P damnit flight mode and damn you gps for having these silly rules
[20:58] <pb0ahx> maybe he hangs it over my head now
[20:58] <chrisstubbs> dammit me for not writing good code
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[20:59] <pb0ahx> can sometimes happen chris
[21:00] <PA0RPA> When he arrives here in Holland we will welcome him Chris....
[21:01] <pb0ahx> I can hunt on it but have no idea where he is
[21:01] <chrisstubbs> Haha thank you :)
[21:01] <pb0ahx> we give him a beer
[21:02] <pb0ahx> bier ?
[21:02] <PA0RPA> A Heineken he means....
[21:02] <pb0ahx> yep
[21:02] <jcoxon> trigangulate it
[21:03] <PA0RPA> No English Ale, we do'nt like that over here...
[21:03] <pb0ahx> ho ho ho i like it ale
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[21:03] <PA0RPA> For me still on 270 degrees,
[21:03] <pb0ahx> 255 degre for me
[21:04] <PA0RPA> So still in the neugbourhood of good ols England....
[21:04] Action: mfa298 isn't sure you can call Heineken beer :p
[21:04] <pb0ahx> with the small antenna s9 + 10
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[21:09] <pb0ahx> Chris was planned as floater ??
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[21:14] <craag> pb0ahx: yes, aimed for 2m/s ascent
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[21:16] <craag> we could have gone slower but wanted it to definetely clear trees/house
[21:16] <Rharrison_> burst
[21:18] <craag> oo
[21:21] <pb0ahx> drift very fast now
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[21:28] <chrisstubbs> Looks like the battery has died and the regulator keeps restarting
[21:28] <chrisstubbs> my last good decode was 0.94v I think
[21:29] <chrisstubbs> oh no it looks like its started modulating again, just too weak for me to decode now
[21:29] <pb0ahx> $$$$CHEAPO,6,000000,0,0,0,0,00,1.01,-26*BB9D
[21:30] <pb0ahx> full reset but no gps
[21:30] <chrisstubbs> ooo the micro has restarted, may have gone back into flight mode
[21:30] <chrisstubbs> will it get a fix before it goes in the sea ;)
[21:31] <pb0ahx> not in the sea but in my garden
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[21:34] <pb0ahx> $$$$CHEAPO,42,000000,0,0,0,0,00,1.19,-2*0247
[21:35] <pb0ahx> stil s9 here
[21:37] <pb0ahx> now gone for me
[21:37] <PA0RPA> For me too, no usefull data anymore , rest in peace....
[21:37] <pb0ahx> i think bateri
[21:38] <pb0ahx> ok tnx team Cheapo
[21:39] <chrisstubbs> Haha its been fun
[21:39] <chrisstubbs> sorry it was such a crappy payload
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[21:39] <pb0ahx> no mproblem chris
[21:39] <chrisstubbs> EMF launches now hold the 1st and 2nd place for maximum distance from ukhasnet
[21:39] <pb0ahx> yep
[21:40] <pb0ahx> next time better
[21:40] <PA0RPA> Good night every one, and let CHEAP ) rest in peache....
[21:41] <PA0RPA> Any way Chris, thanks for this interresting flight !
[21:42] <pb0ahx> sleep well all
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[21:47] <chrisstubbs> Thanks for tracking guys
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[23:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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