highaltitude.log.20160805

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[01:48] <pedrobarri> hello
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[01:52] <pedrobarri> hi there..?
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[02:41] <Lazerman> Hello!
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[03:23] <DoYouKnow> hi. I'm asking here since I can't find a more appropriate channel to ask this question: Are there any existing pieces of code that will dump the phase offset and doppler from an I/Q recording of the GPS satellites?
[03:23] <DoYouKnow> hi laz
[03:23] <DoYouKnow> it's going to storm in a few minutes and I'm trying to get a recording of the atmospheric bounderies prior to the storm
[03:24] <DoYouKnow> mostly the change in the propagation of gps signals with time
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[04:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC9UKT-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC9UKT-7
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[05:41] <Vaizki> DoYoKnow: http://www.rtklib.com should do IT
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[06:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RPF-C2 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RPF-C2
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[07:51] <pb0ahx> gm all
[07:51] <pb0ahx> !flights
[07:51] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03BARC 10(0407)
[07:51] <pb0ahx> !payload BARC
[07:51] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Payload 03BARC 10(0407) 03$$BARC - 03PITS Test - 03434.25 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/910Hz ASCII-8 none 2
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[09:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-CHASE_CAR - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-CHASE_CAR
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[09:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BALLOONOLO-7_LORA after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7_LORA
[09:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0312345_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=12345_chase
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[10:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BARC after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC
[10:09] <swaledale_Steve> morning all
[10:09] <Upu> morning
[10:09] <Upu> BARC is up
[10:09] <Upu> 434.250
[10:09] <swaledale_Steve> just spotted, excellent
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[10:16] <Bencls> who is launching BARC?
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[10:24] <G0WXI> !dial BARC
[10:24] <SpacenearUS> 03G0WXI: Latest dials for 03BARC 10(0407): 03434.45 MHz, 434.451 MHz
[10:25] <AndyEsser> haha
[10:25] <AndyEsser> well there's a shocker
[10:26] <g8fjg> BARC is on 434.251 sorry left wrong freq in box...caught me out it was on advertised freq!
[10:27] <AndyEsser> anyway, time for me to head down to EMF
[10:27] <AndyEsser> chat laters
[10:29] <G0WXI> g8fjg thanks, got it now
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[10:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LORA1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LORA1
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[11:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NAILBRUSH - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NAILBRUSH
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[11:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[11:11] <Maxell> BARC is partials right now, we'll see how it turns out
[11:13] <Maxell> Greens... Damn, 300 baud
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[11:24] <PA0RPA> BARC is readable here in Holland, bud probably swinging like hell ! Was also the case with the previous BARCS. Therefore , and also because of the poor signalstrenght, constantly bad checksums with sometimes a good one. It's a pity for us chasers in Holland....
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[11:27] <Maxell> Is there some BARC project page? They seem to ramp up the amount of balloons quite a bit
[11:27] <Maxell> Who are these guys and gals?
[11:28] <Maxell> PA0RPA: 300 baud is doable from .nl, however the BARCs are yeah, not quite optimal.
[11:28] <Maxell> But it works for the UK listners
[11:29] <Maxell> And they seem to retrivce their payloads...
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[11:34] <craag> Maxell: They're SentIntoSpace
[11:34] <craag> commercial launches
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[11:37] <michal_f> hi
[11:38] <PA0RPA> Indeed Maxell, they have to learn a lot about HAB....
[11:39] <Maxell> craag: hmm, well, wonder why they go for 300 baud...
[11:40] <Maxell> hi michal_f
[11:40] <Maxell> Burst according to the tracker map
[11:41] <Ian_> Swinging a lot, probably saving on string . . .
[11:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AndyEMF_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AndyEMF_chase
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[11:47] <M0NRD> you would think given this is a school flight they would make it easy for the kids to track and/or put ssdv on if using 300baud - I think they usually have SPOT type GSM trackers as well so radio tracker not a priority?
[11:50] <M0NRD> hopefully not going to land on RAF Cranwell ;-)
[11:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5RZP-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[11:58] <daveake> Who's uploading lora1 and nailbrush telemetry?
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[12:02] <M0NRD> going to land in the middle of RAF Digby instead?
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[12:03] <gonzo_> is barc in the air stilll?
[12:04] <Maxell> gonzo_: it's down afaik
[12:04] <gonzo_> ok, won't bother powering up the radios then
[12:05] <Maxell> Nope. 3 km
[12:06] <Maxell> and going down
[12:06] <Maxell> afk
[12:06] <M0NRD> and heading towards RAF Digby at the moment ;-)
[12:06] <pb0ahx> Team BARC tnx for flight
[12:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03alto_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=alto_chase
[12:09] <rharrison_> Looks like a large chute on this one. Slow descent
[12:11] <rharrison_> looking good for no trees
[12:11] <rharrison_> well unless it lands i that farm
[12:12] <pb0ahx> 1 tree and bingo
[12:13] <pb0ahx> a lot off trees
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[12:13] <M0NRD> dropped below the hill for me, lost signal
[12:14] <pb0ahx> 414 mtr M0NRD nice
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[12:18] <M0NRD> looks like it will have missed the RAF Digby perimeter fence by 200m, home of the Joint Service Signal Unit, aerial erector school too - probably have ladders if they need to borrow one ;-)
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[12:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC1DFW - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC1DFW
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[13:13] <Ian_> That farm = that aerial farm . . . Please can I have my balloon down from your log periodic on the tower!
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[13:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RPF-A2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RPF-A2
[13:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RPF-A1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RPF-A1
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[14:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ChaseSTP_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ChaseSTP_chase
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[14:55] <PE2BZ> !flights
[14:55] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03BARC 10(0407)
[14:55] <PE2BZ> !payload rpf-a1
[14:55] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
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[16:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NM5SS-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NM5SS-11
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[16:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NM5SS-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NM5SS-12
[16:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG5BFY-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5BFY-7
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[17:04] <Lazerman> Hello!
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[17:07] <Lazerman> Does anyone know how I can get in touch with subs support for the Habduino?
[17:08] <Lazerman> *Some
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[17:17] <Lazerman> Hello!
[17:17] <Lazerman> Does anyone know how I can get in touch wtouchome support for the Habduino?
[17:18] <Lazerman> *with some
[17:19] <Upu> yup here
[17:19] <Upu> you can ask me but I'm flitting between PC and baby so if I don't respond for an hour bear with m
[17:19] <Upu> me
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[17:24] <Lazerman> Sweet! I'm bouncing between work so no worries
[17:26] <Lazerman> I bought the aprs model for use in the states about a month ago and I've only gotten gps lock for 2 led blinks.
[17:26] <PE2BZ> Upu baby´s change your life a little, don´t they :-) For the next 25 years at least
[17:26] <Lazerman> I've had it out side with a wide open sky powered on for 45+ minutes with no luck.
[17:26] <AndyEsser> Lazerman: what antenna?
[17:26] <Lazerman> The gps antenna that came with it.
[17:27] <AndyEsser> which is...
[17:27] <daveake> And is the gps antenna on the gps socket?
[17:27] <Lazerman> Yes, there is only one small socket on the board.
[17:27] <Lazerman> SMA not small...
[17:28] <rharrison_> do you have a pic
[17:28] <daveake> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/X4DfOZNJ
[17:28] <rharrison_> pastebin
[17:28] <daveake> Wtf
[17:28] <daveake> Stupid phone or operator thereof
[17:28] <Lazerman> Heres a pic. https://imgur.com/KPEF4dN
[17:28] <Lazerman> https://imgur.com/a/xt90U
[17:29] <Lazerman> I've attached a piece of coax to the 2m antenna pads
[17:29] <rharrison_> Yep loks good
[17:29] <rharrison_> looks
[17:31] <rharrison_> Have you put a serial connection onto the GPS RX and TX lines to see the output from the gps
[17:31] <rharrison_> its TTL so you need to use an interface between you and the PC
[17:32] <Lazerman> I used the serial monitor in the arduino IDE and it is just a bunch of repeating random characters.
[17:32] <rharrison_> is the UART set at 9600?
[17:33] <Lazerman> Yes.
[17:33] <rharrison_> Humm you should be seeing nema data coming out
[17:33] <Lazerman> What would that look like?
[17:33] <rharrison_> $XXXX,1,2,,3,23,2,,5,4,5,345,36,,55654,654,6,456,45,6,45,546,45
[17:34] <rharrison_> Something sort of like that
[17:34] <Lazerman> Hmm, yeah it's no where near that..
[17:35] <rharrison_> http://pastebin.com/vDB7YHxd
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[17:36] <rharrison_> you have got the TX and RX and not the I2C connections?
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[17:37] <rharrison_> http://pasteboard.co/53NLaTt1n.png
[17:37] <rharrison_> Lazerman, ^^^^
[17:38] <rharrison_> PINS 2& 3 AND GND
[17:39] <rharrison_> If that is not giving out nema when you restart the Ublox then something is wrong. Upu will be around shortly and he'll be able to help more
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[17:40] <PE2BZ> But the GPS lock led would have nothing to do with the I2C or serial connection I would assume ?
[17:42] <PE2BZ> Lazerman which GPS antenna is attached ?
[17:43] <Lazerman> Yes it is TX&RX not i2c. PE2BZ: the one that came with it, https://imgur.com/KPEF4dN
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[17:45] <PE2BZ> Lazerman is that a passive patch or active patch would you know ?
[17:45] <AndyEsser> Lazerman: if it's a patch antenna... did you touch it?
[17:46] <PE2BZ> https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=60_65&product_id=67 is it this one ?
[17:46] <Lazerman> Yes it is that one.
[17:47] <Lazerman> Touch it as in?
[17:47] <AndyEsser> put your finger on it
[17:47] <AndyEsser> or anywhere near it
[17:47] <AndyEsser> cos that's bad, mmkay
[17:48] <daveake> Lazerman: What do you actually see when you open a serial connection to the arduino ?
[17:48] <PE2BZ> Can you measure for DC voltage on the middle pin on the SMA connector in relation to ¨ground¨ to see if it´s powered ? Without making short circuit to ground ?
[17:48] <Lazerman> On the plastic part of the antenna?
[17:49] <Lazerman> And yes but not atm. I will test when I get home from work.
[17:49] <PE2BZ> Should have DC somewhere between 2.7 and 5 Volt.
[17:50] <PE2BZ> And if you have any other antenna, I have good RX with the same ublox, with a passive QFH antenna from a radiosonde.
[17:51] <daveake> There's no point testing the gps aerial guys ... he said "I used the serial monitor in the arduino IDE and it is just a bunch of repeating random characters. "
[17:51] <daveake> Which implies not programmed correctly
[17:52] <daveake> Lazerman: When you programmed the arduino did you select the correct arduino board in the ide?
[17:53] <Lazerman> Yes, I have an UNO and a Decilima both with the 4.1 software and updated libraries.
[17:53] <daveake> The Habduino firmware sets 9600 baud, so if you also used 9600 baud in the monitor, then something is wrong with the connection / programming
[17:53] <Lazerman> Same thing on both. Just red light forever
[17:53] <PE2BZ> daveake , the assumption that his writing ¨ I've only gotten gps lock for 2 led blinks ¨ would have nothing to do with the programming of the arduino would not be right you mean ?
[17:55] <daveake> just looking at the code ...
[17:55] <daveake> ... uses serial for the gps, and ubx commands. We're not going to see nmea in that case
[17:56] <daveake> so the "random characters" is probably what you'd expect
[17:56] <daveake> so yeah maybe just a gps issue
[17:59] <Lazerman> Hmm, anyway I can test gps?
[17:59] <daveake> I suggest you power the habduino from the battery, not the arduino from the battery
[18:01] <daveake> Arduinos can supply 50mA max at 3.3V; the GPS needs rather more than that till it gets a lock
[18:01] <Lazerman> I was wondering if I was just powering it wrong at one point and I've tried every way that I have.
[18:02] <daveake> Manual suggests the same as I just said
[18:02] <Lazerman> 9v battery to the arduino, 9v wall wart to the arduino, USB, and two AA's to the Habduino board
[18:03] <daveake> last one
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[18:03] <daveake> all the others rely on the arduino regulator
[18:03] <PE2BZ> Lazerman close to the SMA connector there are L1 and R4. At both sides of the R4 you should measuere DC for the active patch antenna. If there is no DC voltage, disconnect the antenna and measure again.
[18:04] <Lazerman> I haven't tried it in a few days as the last time I ran it off the 2AA's they became to hot to even touch.
[18:04] <daveake> oh you have something very wrong in that case
[18:04] <Lazerman> PE2BZ, I will test that as soon as I get home.
[18:04] <Lazerman> ...
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[18:08] <PE2BZ> Lazerman if you have any PTC type fuse laying around I would connect that between the batteries before the next test.
[18:08] <PE2BZ> Something like mounted near USB connectors
[18:13] <daveake> Also, check the polarity of the battery supply. Should match the markings on the PCB
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[18:14] <daveake> Did the Arduino run during the test with AAs to the HABduino ?
[18:15] <Upu> Power it from the habduino PSU not the arduino
[18:15] <Upu> Eh too hot hmm
[18:16] <Upu> How long have you had the habduino ?
[18:16] <Lazerman> I should have some PTC fuses somewhere (just moved to a new house) Polarity is correct
[18:16] <Lazerman> Yes the arduino was powered from the AA's
[18:16] <Upu> Can you take a picture of the battery plug as supplied
[18:20] <Lazerman> Yes, but it won't be until about 10:30UTC
[18:21] <Upu> Nps
[18:21] <Upu> Just ping me afk now
[18:21] <Lazerman> 10-4, Thanks.
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[18:33] <Ian_> is that 1030UTC or 2230UTC, for clarification?
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[18:59] <Upu> Lazerman: what was your order number ?
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[19:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM6CSQ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM6CSQ-11
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[20:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03tony_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=tony_chase
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[20:10] <pedrobarri> hello..
[20:11] <pedrobarri> es there anyone there?
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[20:30] <mfa298> pedrobarri: hello, there's often someoen around, you may just need to wit awhile
[20:30] <pedrobarri> Ok! Thanks
[20:31] <pedrobarri> It's my first time using this..
[20:31] <pedrobarri> I have a question regarding a purchase I want to make
[20:31] <pedrobarri> It's ok to make it here?
[20:33] <mfa298> best to just ask, that way if someone knows the answer they can answer
[20:34] <pedrobarri> Perfect!
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[20:37] <pedrobarri> I'm from Argentina. I'm going to purchase two transmitters model ntx2b-fa the ones in 434MHz. The frecuency range should be tuned between 434,05 MHz and 434,781250 MHz.
[20:38] <pedrobarri> It says on the web page that here I could get some advise on my purchase.
[20:39] <pedrobarri> It says on the web page that here ation or add some extra information when I place my order?
[20:39] <pedrobarri> sorry for last message.
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[20:40] <pedrobarri> Should I add some extra information when I place my order? Or anything at all?
[20:40] <mfa298> the first thing you probably should to is check you can legally use those frequencies in your area.
[20:41] <mfa298> that frequency range is only license free in some parts of the world
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[20:41] <carlos_> helllo
[20:41] <pedrobarri> Thanks, I did that research. It's legal here.
[20:42] <pedrobarri> I called the government institution in charge
[20:43] <pedrobarri> hi!
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[20:44] <carlos_> sorry i have some problems with my decoding data
[20:44] <carlos_> can someone help me
[20:45] <pedrobarri> Regarding the purchase itself, the components specific configuration on purchase. Is there any special requirement or data I should consider?
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[20:50] <carlos_> no, everything is ok
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[20:51] <carlos_> i just need recive data from my pi in the sky, but unfortunately
[20:51] <mfa298> pedrobarri: I'm not sure if there's anythign specific these days or not, someone who has a better idea might appear at some point
[20:51] <carlos_> i cant see any data
[20:51] <carlos_> :(
[20:52] <Upu> screen shots pls carlos_
[20:52] <Upu> of what you see
[20:52] <Rharrison_> Hey Upu did you sort out Lazer???? person
[20:53] <Upu> nope need more info
[20:53] <Upu> but will sort him out
[20:53] <Rharrison_> Seemed to have an issue with the GPS not working I tried to get him to sample the nema output
[20:54] <Rharrison_> Wife finally gone to bed so I can hab for a bit
[20:54] <carlos_> where can i send you screen shots
[20:54] <Upu> I suspect its power relatred Rharrison_
[20:55] <Rharrison_> He had a 9V battery connected
[20:55] <Rharrison_> I guess that is within spec?
[20:55] <Upu> yeah
[20:55] <Upu> the on board Arduino reg can be a bit shit
[20:55] <Upu> especially if its a clone board
[20:58] <Upu> the reg we put on the Habduino board is much better spec'd
[20:58] <Upu> can drive everything with ease
[21:00] <Rharrison_> Cool
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[21:23] <Upu> carlos_: imgur.com
[21:23] <Upu> screen shot dl-fldigi window
[21:23] <Upu> are you using an SDR ?
[21:24] <carlos_> yea upu I am using sdr
[21:25] <Upu> what software ? SDR Sharp?
[21:26] <carlos_> yeah SDR sharp
[21:26] <Upu> ok with pits transmitting show me SDR sharp first please
[21:27] <Upu> alt prtscn then ctrl V on imgur
[21:28] <carlos_> ok the pits is trasmitting
[21:28] <Upu> let me see sdrsharp
[21:29] <carlos_> but i dont know how to set up
[21:29] <Upu> how do you mean ?
[21:29] <Upu> can you see the signal in SDRSharp ?
[21:29] <carlos_> yeah
[21:30] <Upu> show me
[21:30] <Upu> screen shot pls
[21:30] <carlos_> but in dl fldigi
[21:30] <carlos_> i cant recive my ascci text
[21:30] <Upu> ignore that for the moment
[21:31] <Upu> one step at a time
[21:31] <carlos_> ok
[21:31] <carlos_> what is the first step
[21:31] <Upu> send me a screen shot of SDRSharp
[21:32] <carlos_> ok
[21:36] <carlos_> http://imgur.com/a/se4oa
[21:36] <carlos_> look
[21:37] <Upu> ok
[21:37] <Upu> change bandwidth to 3000
[21:37] <Upu> then zoom in on that signal
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[21:38] <Upu> then another screen shot pls, with Audio expended , need to see where you're sending the audio
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[21:40] <carlos_> ok
[21:41] <carlos_> http://imgur.com/a/se4oa
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[21:43] <Upu> to speed this up would you object to doing a remote session to your PC ?
[21:44] <Upu> I'd use LogMeIn Rescue to control your PC, you can kill it at any time
[21:44] <Upu> http://www.nevis.co.uk/remote-support/
[21:45] <carlos_> yeah
[21:46] <Upu> go there, type in Carolos and click connect to technicail
[21:46] <Upu> I see you
[21:46] <Upu> Elevate UAC pls
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[21:56] <Upu> ok carlos_
[21:56] <Upu> SDRSharp is working fine, payload is transmitting fine
[21:56] <Upu> the Virtual Audio cable that takes the sound out of SDRSharp and pipes it into dl-fldigi seems broken
[21:56] <Upu> unsure why
[21:57] <Upu> you should be able to select Virtual Audio Cable 1 in dl-fldigi
[21:57] <Upu> but you can't for some reason
[21:57] <Upu> have you rebooted since you installed Virtual Audio Cable ?
[21:59] <carlos_> ok
[21:59] <carlos_> no, i am going to reboot now
[21:59] <Upu> pls do
[21:59] <Upu> see you soon
[22:00] <Upu> start -> run -> shutdown /r /t 0
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[22:03] <Laurenceb__> anyone here used any "medium range" ISM band AT command controlled modules?
[22:03] <Laurenceb__> I'd be interested to hear what worked
[22:03] <Laurenceb__> this isn't for HAB, its for ~1km range data
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[22:04] <Laurenceb__> I need throughput of ~6kByte/s
[22:05] <Laurenceb__> atm I'm trying with SP1ML, but the device firmware seems to be hideously bad, throughput falling to bytes per second even at 500kbit/s raw rate
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[22:08] <carlos_> i am here again :)
[22:08] <Upu> wb
[22:09] <carlos_> upu can you help me pls
[22:10] <Upu> I'm going to have to log soon
[22:10] <Upu> so try it again
[22:10] <Upu> check in dl-fldigi can you select Virtual Audio Cable 1 ?
[22:10] <Upu> as the source ?
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[22:15] <Upu> make it look like this http://imgur.com/mWmK9TJ
[22:15] <Upu> I'm off now carlos_
[22:15] <Upu> will be back tommorrow cheers
[22:15] <Upu> night all
[22:16] <carlos_> ok thank you so much
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[23:10] <michal_f> has anybody played with this: https://github.com/rs1729/RS ?
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[23:16] <Lazerman> Hello!
[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03STRCHA2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=STRCHA2
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