highaltitude.log.20160731

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[01:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI7CUX - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI7CUX
[01:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI7CUX_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI7CUX_chase
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[05:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DC2EH-14 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-14
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[06:50] <pb0ahx> gm all
[06:50] <pb0ahx> !flights
[06:50] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03UBSEDS16 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(5ad2), 03CLEAPSS1 10(964c)
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[07:44] <PE2BZ> !flights
[07:44] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03UBSEDS16 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(5ad2), 03CLEAPSS1 10(964c)
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[07:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UBSEDS16 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS16
[07:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> Had a good wx sonde hunt this morning :) parachute and all , http://imgur.com/a/jrlLB
[07:57] <SA6BSS-Mike> ubseds have lift off
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[07:59] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike Nice RS92 but with a lot of balloon left ! What was the speed just before landing ?
[07:59] <Darkside> was this one with the plastic parachute within the balloon?
[07:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> the parachute had twisted so it was fairly high, avout 10m/s
[07:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes, plastc parachute
[08:00] <Darkside> mm
[08:00] <Darkside> we dont usually see those
[08:00] <Darkside> we dont have an automatic launcher here
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[08:00] <Darkside> so its balloon, then cardboard or foam radar reflector, which gives about a 7ms descent rate
[08:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> they starded using them at the begining of the year, probably some incident triggered that
[08:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> no radar refloctor on then ones I found (5 so far)
[08:01] <Darkside> i know the automatic sonde launchers use them
[08:01] <Darkside> yeahi think the radar reflectors are a vestige of when they used a windfinding radar around here
[08:01] <Darkside> and now they're just trying to get rid of them :P
[08:03] <SA6BSS-Mike> kind of hard find them in high grass but when I disconnect the antenna of the baofeng ant and I can still hear it I know Im in 15-20m of the sonde
[08:03] <Darkside> heh
[08:03] <Neil_M0CJM> Morning all. Neil In Basingstoke here
[08:03] <Darkside> go make an offset attenuator
[08:04] <Darkside> or get an IC-R10
[08:04] <Darkside> the sondes are really good DFing practice
[08:04] <Darkside> best practice is to chase them through the entire flight *without* decoding the telemetry
[08:04] <SA6BSS-Mike> I should set it up in the garden and see how the radio behaves in DF of the signal source
[08:05] <Darkside> SA6BSS-Mike: make a small 3 element yagi
[08:05] <Darkside> then an offset attenuator (they are really easy to make)
[08:05] <Darkside> even with a baofeng you can get a sense of direction using one of those
[08:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> I have a yagi, but I get within 100m of landning with the last telemetry packet
[08:05] <Darkside> you have to go by FM quieting though, since the signal meter on the baofeng is rubbish
[08:05] <Darkside> SA6BSS-Mike: also get a SIRF-III GPS unit
[08:06] <Darkside> if you havent got one already
[08:06] <Neil_M0CJM> Do i need to do anything specific in ld-fldigi for Contessa mode as it wont let me auto configure?
[08:06] <SA6BSS-Mike> so I have just a small 5mm antenna to start with and when Im close Im disconect it and use no antenna, works
[08:06] <Darkside> should be able to get the GPS residual down to a few metres with ephemerides from a SIRF-III
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[08:06] <Darkside> Neil_M0CJM: ou might have to select it manually
[08:06] <Darkside> Neil_M0CJM: not sure if autoconfigure works for those modes
[08:07] <SA6BSS-Mike> qiye sure u have to configure manuly in fldigi
[08:07] <Neil_M0CJM> ahh yeah i see Contessa in the op_mode drop down
[08:07] <Darkside> hmm i wonder where tonights sonde is going..
[08:07] <Darkside> http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=5ae0b323bc340e6ed944981bbc75a281e94bfa84
[08:07] <Darkside> hahaha
[08:07] <Darkside> nope
[08:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> I have a sirf III and can download empheric data but I have better result with the one I download its within 20m of accuracy
[08:08] <Neil_M0CJM> Ahh green upload :-)
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[08:08] <Darkside> 230km away in the middle of a conservatio npark with no roads
[08:08] <Darkside> SA6BSS-Mike: do you use almanac data or something better?
[08:08] <Darkside> i always find i get maybe 50m residual with almanac data
[08:09] <SA6BSS-Mike> get alot of errors using the one I download through my own gps, so I qiut using it, and download from here instad ftp://igs.bkg.bund.de/EUREF/BRDC/2016/
[08:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> thatone gets me in 20-27m of accuracy
[08:11] <SA6BSS-Mike> just goes for the ones that drops closeby, 10-15km
[08:11] <SA6BSS-Mike> this one was just 2km out
[08:12] <Darkside> yeah we dont have that kind of gps data around here
[08:13] <Ron-g8fjg> green 60+ km before blue line gets here :-)
[08:13] <SA6BSS-Mike> noice!!
[08:13] <SA6BSS-Mike> *nice :9
[08:14] <Darkside> Ron-g8fjg: means you are probably not at sea level :P
[08:15] <Ron-g8fjg> I wish......all of 2mts above on north bank of river thames
[08:15] <pb0ahx> !payload 5ad2
[08:15] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Payload 03UBSEDS16 10(5ad2) 03$$UBSEDS16 - no transmissions
[08:17] <PE2BZ> pb0ahx gm herman, 434.6125 contestia 16/1000 manually set up in fldigi
[08:17] <pb0ahx> PE2BZ, GM Ben yes i found info on agenda
[08:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> ubseds prediction http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=0705c041a1256e8425ebac6908087d543fa14c81
[08:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/124815_trj001.gif
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[08:38] <gonzo__> what contestia mode is flyinhlg?
[08:39] <Ron-g8fjg> 16/1000
[08:40] <gonzo__> ta. good sigs here.
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[08:48] <f5apq> morning Fabrice
[08:51] <F1OIL> Hello Jaques
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[08:55] <Ron-g8fjg> one or two gremlins in UBSEDS16 since 4k
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[09:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Miser1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Miser1
[09:19] <fsphil> oh, flight up?
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[09:25] <number10> nit high enough for you fsphil
[09:25] <number10> not
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[09:27] <fsphil> it might be, I'm a temporary resident of Guildford
[09:27] <number10> ah I didnt know
[09:27] <number10> did you bring some kit with you
[09:27] <fsphil> of course :)
[09:39] <Darkside> i always travel with at least a SDR
[09:39] <Darkside> airspy or similar
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[09:41] <jakeio> Hello, I've an issue with installing dl-fldigi on a new computer.
[09:42] <jakeio> When doing sudo apt-get build-dep fldigi I get this issue: E: Unable to find a source package for fldigi
[09:44] <PE2BZ> apt-cache search fldigi should give a clue to the correct package name if it exists for your distro
[09:44] <jakeio> Done that, fldigi's there.
[09:46] <PE2BZ> Using apt-get build-dep gives me the idea that you are trying to update fldigi instead of first installing it ?
[09:47] <Darkside> PE2BZ: it should install the dependencies requried to build fldigi (and hence dl-fldigi)
[09:47] <jakeio> No, I'm not. As Darkside says, just installing dependencies.
[09:48] <jakeio> I'm on 16.04 LTS btw. I had no issues with this on 14.04 LTS a few Months back.
[09:50] <PE2BZ> jakeio asking the obvious did you apt-get update before installing ?
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[09:52] <PE2BZ> Some guy from the radiosonde forum ran into the same problem, worked with 14.04 and had no luck getting it installed on 16.04
[09:53] <PE2BZ> !dial UBSEDS16
[09:53] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS16 10(5ad2): 03434.611 MHz, -2147483.648 MHz, 434.6115 MHz, 434.611126 MHz, 434.611582 MHz, 434.60983 MHz, 434.59875 MHz
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[10:13] <jakeio> PE2BZ, yes I did, sorry, was AFK for a bit. But yes, I had done that.
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[10:15] <daveake> I installed dl-fldigi from source recently, on Raspbian (based on Ubuntu), and the step to install fldigi deps failed. Ignoring that, the rest worked, so perhaps install from source?
[10:16] <fsphil> so you have the deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:16] <fsphil> do*
[10:17] <Rharrison_> Upu, is there a schematic for the MAX 8 GPS breakout?
[10:17] <Upu> for you Rob of course
[10:17] <jakeio> fsphil, checking now.
[10:17] <Rharrison_> Upu, x
[10:17] <Upu> did you get the one with the SMA on it ?
[10:17] <fsphil> lol you two
[10:17] <Rharrison_> Oh did you send me one
[10:17] <Rharrison_> sorry yes sma
[10:18] <Upu> 10µF decoupling, 10ohm resitor and a 27nH inductor
[10:18] <Upu> or do you want the connections ?
[10:19] <Rharrison_> As per https://www.u-blox.com/sites/default/files/MAX-8-M8-FW3_HardwareIntegrationManual_(UBX-15030059).pdf page 14
[10:20] <Upu> http://imgur.com/gLjBMz4
[10:20] <jakeio> fsphil, http://paste.md-5.net/viwenibari.vala is my sources.list
[10:20] <fsphil> you'll need to comment out some of those deb-src lines
[10:21] <fsphil> oh sorry src is not build dep
[10:21] <fsphil> ignore me I'm talking crap
[10:23] <jakeio> OK...
[10:23] <Rharrison_> upu looks like there is a missing C 10nF on the filter for VCCRF?
[10:23] <Upu> its recommended
[10:23] <Upu> I have it on new designs
[10:24] <fsphil> deb-src are the packages with the source code
[10:24] <fsphil> the build-deps should be in by default
[10:24] <Upu> http://imgur.com/vHQWcp5
[10:25] <Rharrison_> ahh so it's not me missing some thing !!! Oh and a few more decoupling C's in there too
[10:25] <daveake> Upu Did the guy who reckoned his habduino had only one sma socket ever come back to you?
[10:25] <Upu> thats ott Rharrison_ the boards worked fine with a single 100nF for years
[10:25] <jakeio> OK, I've tried manually installing all the dependencies and have got to the make stage.
[10:26] <jakeio> Now I get this error:
[10:26] <Upu> which one was that daveake ?
[10:26] <daveake> I mentioned it to you but not sure you were here when he was
[10:26] <Upu> hmm no
[10:26] <daveake> He had the US APRS option and was having trouble getting GPS lock
[10:26] <Upu> did you get his name ?
[10:26] <daveake> possibly because he had the GPS antenna in the VHF socket
[10:26] <jakeio> fsphil, http://paste.md-5.net/buxuqahiqa.vbs is the error.
[10:26] <daveake> He was going to post a photo, but I suspect things became clear when he tried to take it.
[10:26] <daveake> 1 sec
[10:26] <Upu> haha
[10:26] <Upu> ok
[10:27] <Upu> ah don't worry sure he'll come back to us if its an issue
[10:27] <fsphil> jakeio: huh, that's a new one
[10:28] <daveake> lazerman in http://habhub.org/zeusbot/logs_highlighted/highaltitude.log.20160728.html
[10:30] <jakeio> fsphil, what version of fltk do i need to install?
[10:30] <Rharrison_> UPU cheers for that. BTW what size SMD's are you using ?
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[10:31] <jakeio> Isn't that fl_fontsize due to a fltk issue?
[10:31] <Upu> generally 0603
[10:31] <Upu> but as I move more towards automated manufacture I'm using 0402
[10:32] <Rharrison_> Check you out :-)
[10:32] <Upu> and when you come to get your PCB's done
[10:32] <Upu> don't use the £50 a PCB shop you used before :)
[10:32] <Rharrison_> Ok :-)
[10:32] <Upu> well some of the boards its not worth doing myself any more
[10:32] <Upu> Pi In The Sky took 1-2 hours for four
[10:32] <Rharrison_> Do you paste and oven?
[10:32] <Rharrison_> or by hand?
[10:33] <Upu> yes but most stuff goes to PSL now
[10:33] <Upu> I send them a box of parts
[10:33] <Upu> they send back things
[10:33] <Upu> its a nice relationship
[10:34] <fsphil> jakeio: I have fltk-1.3.3 here on fedora
[10:36] <Rharrison_> Upu, sounds cool. I see need to buy a lot of ublox max 8's to get them for tenner
[10:36] <Upu> oh
[10:36] <Upu> https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=71&search=max
[10:36] <Upu> jsut 1
[10:37] <Upu> hidden
[10:37] <Rharrison_> :-)
[10:37] <Upu> as Ublox disties spat their dummy out as I was selling them @ the 200 buy price
[10:37] <Rharrison_> No wonder I couldn't find it :-)
[10:37] <daveake> Upu is our dealer here
[10:37] <Upu> just search for MAX on the shop
[10:37] <Upu> the CAM module is there too
[10:37] <Rharrison_> :-)
[10:37] <daveake> Stirk Industries
[10:43] <Upu> oh btw had to put Lora module prices up sorry but if you voted for Brexit its your fault
[10:45] <daveake> Is there a NOTMYFAULT discount code ?
[10:45] <AndyEsser> ^
[10:48] <jakeio> fsphil, new error!! http://paste.md-5.net/mucirosuxi.js
[10:49] <fsphil> ahh the set_active stuff I've seen
[10:49] <fsphil> I believe newer fltk added a keyword that fldigi had used
[10:50] <fsphil> so they moved theirs into a different namespace
[10:51] <fsphil> you can see some of the changes I needed to make here: https://www.sanslogic.co.uk/dl-fldigi-fltk-changes.patch
[10:51] <jakeio> OK, so, I need to make those changes now then?
[10:51] <fsphil> they added an icons:: namespace and moved them in there
[10:53] <fsphil> the namespace is declared in src/misc/icons.cxx
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[10:56] <jakeio> Sorry fsphil, I'm a little confused.
[11:00] <AndyEsser> landlord spent most of yesterday here, and this monring
[11:00] <AndyEsser> and didn't mention the antenna strapped to the side of the house
[11:00] <AndyEsser> maybe I should ask if he's ok for me to mount it to the chimeny
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[11:03] <jakeio> fsphil, is it possible to backdate fltk?
[11:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[11:12] <fsphil> jakeio: try applying that patch I linked
[11:13] <fsphil> it might not apply cleanly, not sure
[11:13] <jakeio> I tried that, but not sure if I did it correctly, never done so before.
[11:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CHANGEME - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHANGEME
[11:13] <jakeio> I did patch src/misc/icons.cxx < patch.patch
[11:13] <jakeio> (I renamed to patch.patch)
[11:14] <fsphil> the patch apples to the entire fldigi source
[11:14] <jakeio> How might i do that?
[11:15] <fsphil> in the top directory of the source run: patch -Np1 < ../patchfile
[11:15] <jakeio> That worked and then this happened:
[11:16] <jakeio> http://paste.md-5.net/manasipawi.cs
[11:16] <jakeio> Thank you very much for helping out btw fsphil!
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[11:18] <fsphil> looks like it didn't apply cleanly. check dialogs/fl_digi.cxx:3413:31 - the make_icon_label should appear as icons::make_icon_label
[11:19] <fsphil> and all others in that file too
[11:19] <fsphil> you could do a simple search/replace
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[11:21] <jakeio> OK. 1 moment.
[11:21] <fsphil> it'll be the same for any errors for set_active. just prefix them with icons::
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[11:24] <jakeio> It may be working fsphil! Thank you!
[11:24] <jakeio> Damnit.
[11:24] <jakeio> As i hit send, errors.
[11:24] <jakeio> http://paste.md-5.net/robibupeca.js
[11:24] <jakeio> Oh.
[11:25] <jakeio> I'll just go fix those.
[11:27] <fsphil> yeah they'll all be similar
[11:28] <jakeio> Not sure about this one: http://paste.md-5.net/mimocibano.vhdl
[11:29] <fsphil> your pastebin is doing some pretty random file extensions
[11:29] <jakeio> It's creative.
[11:29] <fsphil> you need libssl (or libopenssh?) dev package. I think it's mentioned in the dl-fldigi build docs
[11:30] <G0TDJ> Hey guys. Just popped in to say Hi - Tracking USBEDS 16 too :-)
[11:31] <jakeio> fsphil, libssl-dev is already the newest version...
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[11:31] <fsphil> ah
[11:33] <fsphil> you'll need to add "-lssl" do the linker part of the Makefile
[11:35] <fsphil> thought it should already be
[11:35] <jakeio> Sorry fsphil, where might that be? I'm a bit of a C noob!
[11:35] <jakeio> Wait, no! Found it.
[11:35] <jakeio> It's already there.
[11:36] <jakeio> FLDIGI_BUILD_LDADD = -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -lfltk_images -lfltk -lX11 -lX11 -lsamplerate -lpng12 -lcurl -ldl -lpthread -lssl
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[11:37] <fsphil> yeah just found it too
[11:39] <jcoxon> ping m1bxf
[11:40] <fsphil> jakeio: ah, checking the archives you need to add -lcrypto before -lssl
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[11:41] <jakeio> OK, is the whitespace between the items in that like important?
[11:41] <jakeio> line*
[11:42] <fsphil> just has to be at least one
[11:42] <jakeio> OK.
[11:42] <jakeio> Well, I did that.
[11:42] <jakeio> http://paste.md-5.net/xetefonici.vhdl
[11:43] <jakeio> And we've got another weird file extension...
[11:43] <fsphil> there are other references to -lssl, you might need to add the crypto lib before them all
[11:43] <jakeio> Here? SSL_LIBS = -lssl
[11:43] <fsphil> I think you'd only need it before the first one but I don't know what order they're used
[11:44] <fsphil> just search for -lssl - there are more than a few in mine
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[11:45] <jakeio> http://paste.md-5.net/hapavoxage.go
[11:45] <jakeio> I could only find 2.
[11:46] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE2WMG-11 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE2WMG-11
[11:46] <fsphil> I've got three
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[11:47] <fsphil> in dl_fldigi_LDADD, FLDIGI_BUILD_LDADD and SSL_LIBS
[11:48] <jakeio> I don't have a DL_FLDIGI_LDADD
[11:50] <fsphil> hmm, not sure
[11:53] <jakeio> fsphil, this is my Makefile.
[11:53] <jakeio> http://paste.md-5.net/nofuxikivo.coffee
[11:57] <jakeio> That's weird, normal fldigi works just fine.
[11:59] <PE2BZ> jakeio the guy from the radiosonde forum just informed me he had to install from the ppa given at https://launchpad.net/~simrunbasuita/+archive/ubuntu/dl-fldigi and that worked for him.
[11:59] <PE2BZ> Although not newer version then from 2013
[12:00] <jakeio> OK, thanks PE2BZ.
[12:03] <jakeio> Erm...
[12:03] <jakeio> I got some warnings from that.
[12:04] <jakeio> PE2BZ, this happened http://paste.md-5.net/gubegumiga.vhdl
[12:06] <jakeio> fsphil, do you have any more suggestions?
[12:07] <PE2BZ> jakeio sorry. I copy and paste your message to him and ask if he also got those messages.
[12:09] <fsphil> jakeio: worth trying a make clean, rebuild fresh
[12:10] <fsphil> it's possible some of the changes you've made haven't been applied yet
[12:10] <jakeio> OK.
[12:10] <jakeio> Doing so.
[12:10] <jakeio> *crosses fingers*
[12:10] <jakeio> PE2BZ, is he on 16.04?
[12:11] <PE2BZ> jakeio Yes, he is, after updating from 14.04 to 16.04 he noticed that he could no longer compile dl-fldigi
[12:12] <jakeio> fsphil, I've just got the same error as before after make clean. Have you had it working on 16.04?
[12:13] <jakeio> So PE2BZ, he didn't get those error messages on 16.04?
[12:13] <PE2BZ> Not stable and neither latest. I adviced him the PPA and he did not think it would work since it was a 2013 dated URL but in the end it worked. I now asked him if he got the same messages as you. I guess he will reply shortly
[12:13] <jakeio> OK, thanks PE2BZ.
[12:13] <PE2BZ> But he got it working, so I think no errors for him
[12:17] <fsphil> jakeio: sorry I'm not on ubuntu, fedora here. but I seen some of the same errors
[12:17] <fsphil> I just needed to fix the icons namespace change
[12:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0HIP-7 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
[12:27] <PE2BZ> jakeio did you see the issues/34 on github https://github.com/ukhas/dl-fldigi/issues/34 ?
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[12:43] <jakeio> No, but i'll take a look.
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[13:21] <PE2BZ> jakeio strange.... Just installed a 64 bits Ubuntu 16.04 in Oracle VM Virtualbox and sudo apt-get install fldigi installs some dependencies and then leaves me with starting the fldigi configuration wizzard.
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[13:22] <PE2BZ> are you happy sat ?
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[13:39] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/a/zdPPu
[13:39] <AndyEsser> *sigh* this does not look correct
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[13:41] <adamgreig> looks like aliasing probably
[13:41] <adamgreig> what're you doing
[13:42] <AndyEsser> taking an RTTY modulated signal, and mixing it with a local oscillator frequency that is the negative
[13:42] <AndyEsser> to try and get the 0's and 1's to be +/- 500 Hz
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[13:59] <Rharrison_> Upu, so any recommendations for printing PCB's
[14:09] <mattbrejza> dirtypcbs
[14:10] <adamgreig> assuming you want cheap and easy, dirty
[14:11] <Vaizki> Negative frequency?
[14:16] <AndyEsser> Vaizki: yarp
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[14:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> ubseds loosing alt fast
[14:31] <richardeoin> yess envelope torn it seems
[14:31] <richardeoin> 1.5m/s is kinda fast by pico standards
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[14:42] <mattbrejza> !whereis UBSEDS16
[14:42] <SpacenearUS> 03mattbrejza: 03UBSEDS16 is over 0349.5779,3.2466 at 037230 meters
[14:42] <mattbrejza> useful
[14:42] <mattbrejza> france?
[14:42] <mattbrejza> perhaps belgium?
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[14:58] <fsphil> AndyEsser: what is that?
[14:59] <AndyEsser> ?
[14:59] <fsphil> the image
[14:59] <AndyEsser> fsphil: supposed to be the mixed signal
[14:59] <fsphil> ah. time or frequency?
[15:00] <AndyEsser> time
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[15:03] <Ron-g8fjg> was decoding down to -0.3 but the North Downs and physics got in the way
[15:04] <Ron-g8fjg> time for beers //cheers
[15:04] <Ron-g8fjg> back to you Ben PE2BZ
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[15:06] <PD3T> just lost UBS signal
[15:08] <fsphil> I got my setup running just a bit too late
[15:09] <PD3T> net time you will be on time ;)
[15:09] <PD3T> afk dinner
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[15:10] <AndyEsser> fsphil: http://imgur.com/a/qv6oN (modulated signal) http://imgur.com/a/H7sn4 (local oscillator) http://imgur.com/a/UMqoU (mixed)
[15:10] <AndyEsser> I suspect my mixing is wrong :(
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[15:18] <PE2BZ> Ron-g8fjg send it up and to Naaldwijk ! I assume it will not go up again...
[15:19] <PE2BZ> -0.3 elevation and -9 dB s/n
[15:19] <PE2BZ> Guess it will be gone soon. Not bad for an Omnidirectional
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[15:44] <richardeoin> definitely not going back up
[15:44] <richardeoin> looks to be coming down in farmland http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=7aa53463557ab183dac3f059397de0b7e197f0d3
[15:45] <richardeoin> I'd rather it missed this place https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moronvilliers
[15:48] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/a/N57PN
[15:48] Action: AndyEsser ponders just using GRC for RTTY demod
[15:49] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser offtopic but within about 90 minutes there is a NOAA15 pass
[15:49] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ:
[15:49] <AndyEsser> cheers :)
[15:49] <AndyEsser> haven't tried a NOAA pass since getting SDR console + new antenna position (I don't think)
[15:50] <PE2BZ> At here SDR-Console with the BladeRF looks to follow the doppler nicely :-)
[15:50] <AndyEsser> do you do anything specific in SDR console, or just pump the WFM output to wxtoimg as with SDR#?
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[15:51] <PE2BZ> FM Wide @ 38 KHz. Display - Satellite tracking - select NOAA-15 and start the tracking.
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[15:52] <AndyEsser> NOAA-18 seems to be about 50 mins away
[15:53] <AndyEsser> also, hitting "play" on the satellite tracking screen doesn't change the freq, should it?
[15:53] <PE2BZ> Could be but I have to leave it for auto recording and I can not switch frequencies in between.
[15:54] <PE2BZ> As a matter of fact, sometimes it does, about 2 kHz, but with 38 kHz that would not hurt
[15:56] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser http://imgur.com/a/g6QCO
[15:57] <AndyEsser> what antenna do you use?
[15:57] <PE2BZ> NOAA19 is now
[15:58] <PE2BZ> QFH137
[15:58] <PE2BZ> I am afk for dinner. cu later
[15:58] <AndyEsser> home made/
[15:58] <AndyEsser> ok, ciao
[15:59] <PE2BZ> Me <> homemade ... I can build BiQuads for 70, 23cm and 1545 MHz however ;-)
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[16:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RPF-C2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RPF-C2
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[17:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RPF-C1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RPF-C1
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[18:39] <SpacenearUS> 03PE0SAT: Here you go: 12https://ukhas.org.uk/spacenearus_irc_bot
[18:40] <PE0SAT> !flights
[18:40] <SpacenearUS> 03PE0SAT: Current flights: 03UBSEDS16 434.612.5 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(5ad2), 03CLEAPSS1 10(964c)
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[19:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI7CUX - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI7CUX
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[20:48] <KT5TK1> fsphil: ping
[20:50] <KT5TK1> fsphil: (its sven) i know what the reason for the stripes in the images is. 1. we use a supercap instead of a battery. 2. we charge the supercap to 4.6v instead of 4.1v.
[20:51] <KT5TK1> fsphil: we have added higher values to the caps after the LDOs which feed the camera. we will add more caps at VBAT.
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[21:09] <RorySEG> Hi there! My name is Rory and I'm part of a team of students from St Andrews University in Scotland hoping to undertake a HAB launch in Spring next year.
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[21:09] <RorySEG> Just wanted to say hi to the community if there are still people using this channel and ask for a bit of guidance if possible
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[21:11] <RorySEG> So we want to take advantage of the network of trackers as it says in all the guides, but most of these seem to be based in England. Would a launch from Scotland be significantly harder because of this? Cheers!
[21:11] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Welcome
[21:12] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Yes it has its problems mainly in the final stages when it gets down low and out of LoS for most stations
[21:12] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> not helped by the mountians in Scotland ;-)
[21:13] <Upu> we have some stations in Scotland
[21:13] <Upu> and I can just about reach there at a push (you'll have to be high)
[21:14] <RorySEG> How high do you reckon?
[21:14] <Upu> 30km or s
[21:14] <Upu> so
[21:14] <Upu> but in short you need to be self sufficient
[21:15] <Upu> practice locating the payload
[21:15] <Upu> send one team off into the woods with a payload
[21:15] <Upu> the others need to find it
[21:25] <RorySEG> Haha yeah there's going to be a lot of that I think. 30km seemed to be about the region I wanted to hit. Any higher and it seemed there might be a risk of losing it at sea. As far as I can see, if we go for the NTX2B transmitter, we should be ok for transmitting power, but it might be the picking up of the signal that's the problem. We had read that the Yaesu FT-817ND reciever would be ideal, but it's obviously a bit pricier. I
[21:25] <RorySEG> ... to have a beefier reciever if there aren't many other up here in Scotland
[21:25] <RorySEG> if that makes sense
[21:29] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Its less the sensitivity of the receiver much more the fact that once down below hill height you don't have Line of Sight
[21:31] <RorySEG> Right that makes sense. So would you expect that we'd have reasonably accurate tracking until it starts to get low
[21:31] <RorySEG> ?
[21:34] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> That is the normal result, you then need to be in position on a hill top near to hear the signal as it goes into the valley.
[21:34] <Rharrison_> Anyone know if there is a good surface mount osc. for the ATMEGA328P?
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[21:39] <mfa298> RorySEG: It maybe worth finding out what local Amateur Radio clubs are around as they might be able to help in tracking, You may also find a club as part of the Uni who might be interested in helping out.
[21:39] <RorySEG> I will look into this indeed. Thank you for your help all.
[21:40] <mfa298> you may also find someone that can help out with kit, For testing the rtlsdr's are cheap and may work well enough for a flight, other SDR's are more expensive but often better
[21:41] <mfa298> although for chase car some of us tend to prefer real radios over sdrs
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