highaltitude.log.20160720

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[00:25] <esculca> Hi everyone
[00:25] <esculca> just finishing my tracket
[00:25] <esculca> my lora tracker
[00:25] <esculca> I want to upload the telemetry that I am receiving to habhub
[00:25] <esculca> through the internet
[00:25] <esculca> without using dlfldigi
[00:26] <esculca> kinda of lost wit this post, jason,
[00:26] <esculca> commandsd
[00:26] <esculca> anyone can give a hand?
[00:26] <daveake> https://github.com/PiInTheSky/lora-gateway
[00:27] <esculca> hum, the Pi
[00:27] <esculca> I am using the arduino
[00:27] <esculca> let me have a look
[00:27] <daveake> It's source code
[00:27] <daveake> convert it
[00:27] <esculca> might get how you are doing it
[00:27] <daveake> good luck
[00:27] <esculca> thanks Dave
[00:28] <esculca> I am sing the ESP8266 module
[00:28] <esculca> to connect to my Wi-Fi Access Point
[00:31] <Laurenceb__> https://i.imgur.com/5uviZjZ.jpg
[00:34] <Laurenceb__> http://www.highriskadventures.com/airships/LZ130.1-200.pdf
[00:35] <russss> oh my god, the typeface choice in that PDF really irks me
[00:36] <russss> it's such a modern typeface except for the first page, it just sets my teeth on edge. Am I becoming a design hipster.
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[01:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[04:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DC2EH-14 after 0321 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-14
[04:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DO2EIM-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO2EIM-1
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[05:50] <DL7AD> morning
[05:50] <DL7AD> ping fsphil
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[06:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> S-15 waterlaunch filmed with a drone https://www.dropbox.com/s/uyfx3zwd78qdj2e/S15%20Balloon%20Launch%20-%20Parry%20Sound%2C%20ON%20-%20July%2C%2019%2C%202016.mp4?dl=0
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[06:30] <DL7AD> SA6BSS-Mike: we'll launch a balloon today here in berlin
[06:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> oki
[06:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> going south http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=27bb84b8ba5e326d7b602b35a5837c339957b340
[06:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S13 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S13
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[07:15] <AndyEsser> morgen
[07:19] <fsphil> hai
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[08:20] <DL7AD> fsphil: do you already did something with the OV2640?
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[08:21] <DL7AD> we plan to fly today but i want to improve the camera quality before if possible.
[08:21] <fsphil> nope :( other work taking up all my time atm
[08:22] <fsphil> some of your earlier images where very good. I seen a lot of lines on the latest ones?
[08:23] <DL7AD> we've done 2 successful flights. one with a OV9655 and the last one which you've seen has been OV2640
[08:24] <DL7AD> successful = those with low packet loss
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[08:46] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-15 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-15
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[08:54] <swaledale> Mornin'
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[08:58] <pb0ahx> !flights
[08:58] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03SP3OSJ/437.7MHz/RTTY/100bd/7n2 10(13b4), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
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[09:01] <pb0ahx> GM all
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[10:12] <swaledale> damn BT fault
[10:13] <SpeedEvil> ''
[10:13] <SpeedEvil> Rate (Kbps): 1408 448
[10:14] <gonzo__> seems to be a common complaint today
[10:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03p_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=p_chase
[10:15] <swaledale> they have routing issues out of an internet exchange so some sites are in a bit of a tizz
[10:15] <nick_> One of their fibres melted yesterday?
[10:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03wle 2591_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=wle%202591_chase
[10:17] <swaledale> it wouldnt surprise me if it was some kind of kit failure
[10:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
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[10:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S11
[11:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M10RS-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M10RS-11
[11:30] <AndyEsser> swaledale: yea I have reports of some BT equipment outages over my neck of the woods as well
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[11:37] <fsphil> the B stands for broken
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[11:38] <fsphil> no problems at the office but lots of complains from customers
[11:38] <AndyEsser> heh
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[11:40] <AndyEsser> Yea, I'd heard that Plusnet was down for all of Chester, but I can still connect home
[11:40] <AndyEsser> so guess I must be lucky
[11:40] <AndyEsser> or the "Pro" part of my SLA is doing it's job :)
[11:50] <gonzo__> isn't that where they have a dept to say sorry when they shaft you?
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[11:51] <AndyEsser> lol
[11:54] <swaledale> Issue was a power issue at a peering exchange, ie somebody forgot to put 50p in the meter.
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[11:55] <fsphil> might've been related to the storms
[11:56] <swaledale> not had any storms down here (yet) - was waiting for a downpour about now
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[11:57] <swaledale> no UK HAB flights planned today I see. Guess I'll have to do real work this pm then.
[11:57] <fsphil> mostly over scotland now
[11:57] <fsphil> http://en.blitzortung.org/live_lightning_maps.php?map=12
[11:57] <swaledale> nice
[11:58] <swaledale> one or two strikes over your way AndyEsser
[11:58] <AndyEsser> really?
[11:58] Action: AndyEsser looks out window
[11:58] Action: AndyEsser sees huge ball of fire
[11:58] <AndyEsser> more Liverpool/Manchester
[12:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ5RZP-11 after 039 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ5RZP-11
[12:12] <edmoore> very sunny and clear down here
[12:31] <flutterb1t> im melting T_T
[12:32] <mfa298> its been a bit more cloudy down here, but still very hot
[12:33] Action: SpeedEvil inserts ice into flutterb1ts ice-hole.
[12:40] <cm13g09> mfa298: It's not TOO bad
[12:40] <craag> not as bad as yesterday
[12:42] <daveake> Holding my balloon before launch yesterday, I realised that it made a great sun-shield
[12:43] <SpeedEvil> :)
[12:43] <SpeedEvil> Don't worry, it'll be winter on tuesday
[12:43] <daveake> good
[12:43] <gonzo__> they also make great rain collectors
[12:44] <gonzo__> and itall pours straight down your sleeve
[12:45] <craag> gonzo__: tie excess cord around your wrists and let the ends dangle, works a treat for pulling the water off before your sleeve ;)
[12:45] <adamgreig> can't do that while filling though
[12:46] <craag> hmm can't remember exactly how I did it last time - was a bit chaotic (wales)
[12:47] <Hes> daveake: Hi, I wired up a 3.3v arduino pro mini with a RFM92W-433S2 and an uBLOX MAX-M8Q module, and loaded FlexTrack. The GPS lock is fine and printed out on the USB serial, but it doesn't seem to transmit. It apparently tries to transmit but never finishes or comes out from transmit mode, I suspect. Are there any known usual things that go wrong in the setup?
[12:47] <SpeedEvil> craag: tied it to a sheep?
[12:48] <daveake> Check DIO0/5 connections and that they match the configuration
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[12:49] <Hes> http://paste.debian.net/hidden/c017a83d/ is what it says
[12:49] <daveake> Oh you said 92W. Dunno about that. Only tried 95/96/98
[12:50] <Hes> Correction. 98W is what it is.
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[12:52] <daveake> Steve's winning balloon http://imgur.com/a/4jcUo
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[12:55] <number10> daveake: thats the one he was going to sell me
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[12:56] <number10> those cylinders look a lot more manageable
[12:56] <daveake> much much
[12:56] <daveake> also more expensive, but worth it
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[12:57] <number10> whats the volume
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[12:57] <daveake> 5.4 iirc
[12:57] <BubUK> Greetings
[12:57] <number10> hello
[12:57] <daveake> price about the same as the K but that's 7.2
[12:58] <daveake> and rental is more
[12:58] <number10> whats the rental period
[12:58] <daveake> Well I always have 2 of them so I pay 2 x yearly rental
[12:58] <gonzo__> ouch
[12:58] <number10> I guess that makes sense with the number of launchs you do
[12:59] <daveake> yeah one isn't enough as it might not have enough for a launch
[12:59] <number10> I shall have to come over and have a look at one ;-)
[12:59] <daveake> also for anything important I want enough to re-launch if it goes wrong
[12:59] <daveake> yeah do
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[13:26] <swaledale> so was steve's winning balloon one of those old batch of Howyee?
[13:33] <AndyEsser> so overtime is hopefully done for the time being at work
[13:33] <AndyEsser> I should be able to start working on HAB stuff again!
[13:35] <number10> I dont think it was that old, certainly not a 2013 one like I flew on sat
[13:35] <number10> batch was AJ and I have a 1200 AJ batch that I purchased this year
[13:35] <swaledale> maybe this batch is a good one then
[13:38] <number10> designing a lightweight payload and getting the fill correct is all important
[13:38] <craag> GILWELL24 payload will be posted back to the UK next week :)
[13:38] <fsphil> he had quite a high ascent rate
[13:39] <number10> weather conditions too, but when Mick Mondo got the last record I think there was low pressure system over or nearish
[13:49] <swaledale> craag: good news on the GILWELL24 payload
[13:50] <craag> swaledale: Although it does mean I'll ~4000 images to sort through if the sdcard works :P
[13:50] <AndyEsser> craag: don't you have students for that? :)
[13:51] <craag> good point...
[13:51] <swaledale> get the Scouts to do it!
[13:54] <gonzo__> thta will cost you b5p
[13:54] <gonzo__> 5p
[14:06] <fsphil> be nice to get a high-resolution shot of that boat
[14:06] <craag> yes, I might get it framed :)
[14:09] <edmoore> the alt records do seem to be pretty seasonal
[14:09] <edmoore> launches on days where the altitude for a given pressure is high, i suspect
[14:09] <daveake> number10 a low pressure system at normal altitudes doesn't imply the same at high altitudes, where it counts of course
[14:09] <daveake> I have, somewhere, links that show high altitude pressure charts
[14:12] <fsphil> I'm guessing a pressure sensor that works well at 45km would be quite specialist?
[14:12] <Ian_> 5p, that will increasingly have gone over some heads gonzo__ 'Robert's task'
[14:13] <swaledale> totally got the 5p reference here (scout leader)
[14:14] <gonzo__> the value was probably obsolete when I was a kid. But the name perpetuated
[14:14] <Ian_> :) dob dob dob
[14:15] <Ian_> I thought that it went by the by a few decades ago?
[14:15] <swaledale> it got brought back as 'scout community week' a few years ago
[14:17] <swaledale> daveake: did you swig some fine champagne with steve to celebrate then?!
[14:17] <daveake> We were all driving, so it was juice, lemonade and ice :)
[14:18] <edmoore> fsphil: I dunno
[14:18] <edmoore> probably not that specialist
[14:18] <edmoore> one that wortked well from sea level to there might be
[14:18] <fsphil> mmm yeah
[14:19] <fsphil> something that worked from 20km+ would probably do
[14:19] <fsphil> just to find out what the pressure up there at each altitude is
[14:19] <adamgreig> not that hard
[14:19] <adamgreig> the predictor does it
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[14:19] <adamgreig> the dataset it uses has a pressure-altitude variable
[14:19] <adamgreig> and the wind speeds are all given at pressures rather than altitudes
[14:21] <swaledale> juice, lemonade and ice, officer. hic. :)
[14:22] <fsphil> do any met sondes ever get to 40km?
[14:22] <fsphil> the local one is doing well if it breaks 25km
[14:22] <Laurenceb> tl;dr atmosphere is all nonlinear
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[14:23] <Laurenceb> but pressure at 45km altitude is going to be effected by sea level pressure
[14:25] <edmoore> it's be good to know if these alt record days correlate with high pressure-alts
[14:25] <edmoore> i.e. is it freak balloons or freak pressures
[14:36] <flutterb1t> does a picture of rocketboys balloon exist?
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[14:37] <swaledale> Was looking into sonde heights and found the met office site. Has anyone built an automatic hab launcher then? :) http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/learning/science/first-steps/making-observations/upper-air
[14:38] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> I thought most of them were automated !
[14:39] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> https://vimeo.com/19862362
[14:39] <swaledale> anyway, sondes do 35km by the looks of it
[14:41] <swaledale> a jack in a box for HAB then
[14:41] <swaledale> should be one permanently set up at Elsworth!
[14:42] <AndyEsser> could do with one of those shelters at least
[14:43] <swaledale> like a hangar
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[14:49] <daveake> flutterb1t: Yes, e.g. this that I posted earlier http://imgur.com/a/4jcUo
[14:49] <swaledale> nice little teardown of a sonde here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSxtwuTS5hw
[14:52] <flutterb1t> neat ty
[14:54] <daveake> Also http://imgur.com/a/iqq8d
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[14:57] <swaledale> was it a 1600?
[14:58] <daveake> yes
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[15:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1RCA-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1RCA-11
[15:01] <edmoore> hey andycamb2
[15:01] <edmoore> and all other permutations
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[15:47] <Hes> daveake: Some wiring problem, or faulty unit; I built a second one and it transmits fine.
[15:55] <daveake> Cool
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[16:04] <Hes> Very nice bit of code, this FlexTrack thing. Thank you!
[16:04] <Hes> Wife requested a cat tracking system as a little summer project, and this will suit the purpose just fine.
[16:05] <Hes> If they agree to wear the trackers.
[16:08] <nick_> Hes: do you want to track them in real time?
[16:09] <nick_> Or just find out later where they went?
[16:10] <Hes> Real time will be cooler.
[16:11] <Hes> So, we can stare at them on the screen with the kids.
[16:12] <nick_> I imagine cats like to go places where data transmission becomes harder.
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[16:17] <SpeedEvil> Mesh networking.
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[16:21] <SpeedEvil> Of course, today there is a vital add-on.
[16:22] <SpeedEvil> you have the tracker contain an android phone running pokemon go
[16:22] <SpeedEvil> And you train the cat to throw pokeballs
[16:22] <Laurenceb> a license to print money
[16:23] <Laurenceb> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tropicallabs/mechaduino-powerful-open-source-industrial-servo-m
[16:23] <SpeedEvil> https://pokevision.com/#/@56.21586875215694,-3.111974000930786 - how to create a website guaranteed to be crashed
[16:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0GEO-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0GEO-11
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[16:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0GEO-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0GEO-13
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[16:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KE0GEO-12 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0GEO-12
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[16:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OM3BC-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OM3BC-13
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[16:54] <Hes> What's the recommended way to deal with frequency offsets of the LoRa modules? Seems like these two are some 3kHz off from each other, the AFC wouldn't find the transmitter's frequency until I stepped down manually a bit?
[16:54] <Hes> It's fine with 1 cat, but with 2 or 3 cats in the woods... :)
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[17:00] <daveake> Use a wider bandwidth
[17:00] <daveake> The allowable offset between modules is proportional to the bandwidth you use
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[17:08] <Hes> Ah, excellent, that works!
[17:16] <Hes> Found a little bug: GPS.GotTime is not set to 1 anywhere, so timeslotting didn't work. Easy to fix though.
[17:20] <daveake> That reminds me I have a new version to push :)
[17:24] <Hes> How well is power consumption optimised so far? There seems to be provisions for GPS poweroff
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[17:37] <samme> Hey. I have got a GPS module (ublox Neo6M), wanted to set to flight mode as per https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:ublox6. My question is how can I know that flight mode is set?
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[17:42] <SA6BSS-Mike> one way is to connect serial interface and use u-center
[17:42] <SA6BSS-Mike> in u-center ctrl+F9 and go in under NAV5
[17:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> top value "Dynamic Model" 6 airborne 1g
[17:46] <samme> SA6BSS-Mike: after selected 6 airborne 1g?
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[17:47] <SA6BSS-Mike> u want to set it and want it to remember it you have to eather use a battery for BBR battery backed ram
[17:47] <SA6BSS-Mike> or
[17:48] <Ian_> Does u-centre run under wine, or do I have to sell my soul?
[17:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> if its a breakout module its likely to have a eeprom on it
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[17:49] <SA6BSS-Mike> if it does not have eather one it no go
[17:49] <SA6BSS-Mike> you have to set it within the code at startup of the code
[17:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> samme: to save just go to CFG at the top and it should auto save
[17:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> you get the idea here https://i2c-gps-nav.googlecode.com/files/ublox-hw-hacks.pdf
[17:54] <samme> SA6BSS-Mike: do I need to set this Dynamic model every time I use? or just it once and simply add the Arduino code that enables flight mode?
[17:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> usuly done from within the arduino code
[17:55] <samme> my GPS module has a eeprom
[17:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> then you can do it once now and not enable it from the arduino code
[17:56] <samme> I didnt get you :/
[17:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> you can save airborne mode to eeprom and then you dont have to do it from within the arduino code
[17:57] <SA6BSS-Mike> * you can save airborne mode to eeprom from u-center
[17:58] <SA6BSS-Mike> just selct under CFG I2C-EEPROM and push send at the bottom
[17:59] <samme> SA6BSS-Mike: just did that, any kind of notification to ensure all thing has been set ?
[18:00] <samme> cuz I send it and closed u blox center and reopened, but now dynamic model is reset to portable instead of airborne
[18:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> remove and close the program and gps from the computer and start and plugin everything and if you look under nav5 airborne should be set from start
[18:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> hmm, strang
[18:00] <samme> will try again
[18:01] <Laurenceb> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/data_brief/group0/66/c3/3b/d8/47/ae/4d/a5/DM00282409/files/DM00282409.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00282409.pdf
[18:03] <SA6BSS-Mike> samme: try this https://github.com/jlnaudin/x-drone/wiki/How-to-setup-the-GPS-Ublox-NEO-6M-(Crius)-CN-06-V2
[18:03] <SA6BSS-Mike> might get you some idea
[18:06] <samme> SA6BSS-Mike: I am using Arduino UNo instead of FTDI
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[18:09] <SA6BSS-Mike> there is a good guide on upu:s blog, just cant find it, he is allson using an arduino insted of a ftdi
[18:11] <SA6BSS-Mike> here http://ava.upuaut.net/?p=738
[18:11] <SA6BSS-Mike> its a two parter
[18:12] <samme> thanks ! will try
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[18:32] <fsphil> PE2BZ: are you doing anything unusual with your ssdv images? I notice a fair few have come kind of corruption
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[18:33] <esculca> hi guys
[18:33] <esculca> need some assistance with the telemetry upload
[18:33] <esculca> to habitat server
[18:34] <esculca> not with FLDIGI
[18:34] <esculca> but rather through arduino + esp8266 module
[18:34] <esculca> I dont' seem to be able to create the right http post messages
[18:35] <esculca> just exchanged a few lines with Dave yesterday, he gave me the advice of looking into his pi in the sky
[18:36] <esculca> with curl commands and so on...
[18:37] <esculca> has anybdiy tried this?
[18:37] <esculca> anybody?
[18:37] <fsphil> what problem have you hit?
[18:38] <esculca> first of all, what is the right IP to send the messages to? 77.75.187.10
[18:38] <esculca> ?
[18:39] <esculca> 77.75.187.10 points to habitat.habhub.org
[18:39] <esculca> right?
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[18:40] <esculca> should I check the logtrail to see if my messages get there? http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/
[18:40] <fsphil> you need to post to http://habitat.habhub.org/habitat/message iirc
[18:41] <esculca> ?
[18:41] <esculca> that link is working?
[18:44] <fsphil> no I'm wrong
[18:44] <samme> SA6BSS-Mike: meaning I have to include setGPS_DynamicModel6 in the setup criteria to make it airborne, got it thanks :D
[18:44] <fsphil> you post a json document to http://habitat.habhub.org/habitat
[18:45] <fsphil> the document should be of type "payload_telemetry"
[18:45] <fsphil> http://habitat.habhub.org/jse/#schemas/payload_telemetry.json
[18:45] <esculca> I have no idea how to do it
[18:46] <esculca> I guess I have to dig further
[18:46] <fsphil> looks like daveake's using a simpler method
[18:46] <fsphil> just POST'ing to http://habitat.habhub.org/transition/payload_telemetry
[18:47] <esculca> I tried to follow his code
[18:47] <esculca> code lost somewhere along the way
[18:48] <esculca> I am using the esp8266 module, that requires AT commands to establish TCP sessions
[18:48] <esculca> more limited than Raspberry
[18:49] <esculca> even limited I prefer to stuck with the arduino
[18:49] <esculca> stick*
[18:51] <fsphil> if you have to code the http parser too then you've a fair bit to do
[18:52] <esculca> what I just need is to send the telemetry string
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[18:55] <fsphil> if you really want to do it this way, you're going to have to get familiar with how http works
[18:56] <fsphil> it could certainly be done on an atmega328
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[18:56] <fsphil> but it'll be quite ackward
[18:56] <Ian_> :{ deep joy!
[18:57] <fsphil> you could keep things simpler by having a service running on a PC, and have your atmega talk to that
[18:57] <fsphil> then the service could do the habitat upload part
[19:00] <daveake> if only a device existed that .... well you can fill in the rest :)
[19:00] <fsphil> haha
[19:00] <esculca> :)
[19:00] <fsphil> some kind of computer with networking, spi and gpio :)
[19:01] <daveake> wow that would be great
[19:01] <fsphil> someone should do that. I bet they'd sell a few hundred
[19:03] <esculca> hundreds for sure.
[19:03] <esculca> Dave will become rich
[19:03] <esculca> but I will do it myself
[19:03] <esculca> after burning my brains with this damm http post
[19:04] <esculca> before this I was trying to do it using strings passed to python on my laptop and then my laptop will upload to habitat
[19:04] <esculca> and then I entered the wonderful world of python
[19:04] <esculca> and phyton v2 vs. v3
[19:04] <esculca> omg!
[19:04] <esculca> what a mess
[19:05] <daveake> I have a little box with lora, arduino mini pro and a prolific serial-usb adapter, connected to a Windows program that does the habitat side
[19:05] <esculca> I know dave
[19:05] <esculca> and you have a pascal code that you compiled
[19:05] <daveake> And a bluetooth version
[19:06] <daveake> Need to get round to doing a cross-platform version for pc/mac/mobile
[19:06] <esculca> Where can I get some kind of free compiler for windows?
[19:06] <daveake> free pascal
[19:06] <daveake> no idea how easy
[19:06] <daveake> but tbh the windows side should be easy enough to do in Python
[19:06] <esculca> give me a break
[19:07] <esculca> I get mad just to undertand the logics of python!
[19:07] <esculca> maybe it's just me
[19:07] <daveake> got to be easier than arduino http
[19:07] <esculca> :)
[19:07] <esculca> that for sure!
[19:08] <esculca> I need some kind of c compiler for windows 7
[19:08] <esculca> free, of course
[19:08] <esculca> any advice?
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[19:10] <edmoore> gcc
[19:11] <edmoore> i've not a problems with the logic of python. it's fairly consistant and fairly logical and fairly easy
[19:11] <edmoore> and i doubt you'd run into many 2 vs 3 problems anymore?
[19:12] <esculca> I guess I then have to look into that a little further
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[19:15] <esculca> well guys, thanks for the help
[19:15] <esculca> will investigate a lttle more this evening
[19:16] <esculca> roger now
[19:17] <edmoore> gcc - the C compiler
[19:18] <edmoore> python - python3 is python now, python2 is legacy. unless you know you need compatibility with some old paython2 thing, always 3
[19:19] <esculca> thanks Ed
[19:20] <esculca> Will find a way
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[19:36] <fsphil> I've started using python at work, to glue some systems together
[19:36] <fsphil> still not convinced by the whole indentation vs { } thing
[19:36] <fsphil> but no denying it's a really handly language
[19:42] <fsphil> -l
[19:45] <edmoore> but no denying it's a really handly anguage
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[19:46] <fsphil> reay handy anguage
[19:46] <daveake> o
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[19:52] <Ian_> I feel that the use the magnitude of white space is apt to allow corruption when some kind soul in a shared project decides to tidy up the indentation preferences of a past maintainer. I quite like ';'
[19:52] <Ian_> I would be happy if it was optional!
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[19:53] <fsphil> I've left ;'s in by mistake in python, it doesn't seem to mind them. don't think they do anything?
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[20:03] <fsphil> ah it does a fairly similar job as C
[20:03] <fsphil> print(x); print(y); print(z)
[20:04] <fsphil> though I'd never do that in C
[20:16] <daveake> I remember once doing some asm for a few hours, then tried to debug some C (calling the asm as it happens) by commenting bits out with ";"
[20:16] <daveake> oops
[20:32] <dbrooke> just use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_(programming_language)
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[20:45] <JDat> hellow
[20:46] <JDat> where are online calculator for CRC16 checksum used in UKAS protocol?
[20:46] <JDat> I found few, but not shure witch is correct.
[20:48] <JDat> is checksum for "123456789" is 0x313c or 0xBB3D ?
[20:48] <JDat> or something else?
[20:52] <Ian_> 0xBB3D I believe http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/info/crc-calculation.html
[20:54] <JDat> thank you Ian_
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[21:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> another one http://www.zorc.breitbandkatze.de/crc.html
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[21:10] <Ian_> #include <util/crc16.h>
[21:11] <Ian_> http://playground.arduino.cc/Main/LibraryList Then >Navigation > Data structures and algorithms > CRC16
[21:12] <Ian_> For Arduino
[21:12] <Ian_> Is this of any use JDat
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[23:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IK8SUT-11 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IK8SUT-11
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[23:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[23:12] <gurlavie> Hi, I am trying to test my Arduino directly with a HX1 unit (APRS). Is there a mode in the Habduino software which enables testing on ground ? without a GPS connected ?. Tx for any insight
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