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[00:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S11
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[00:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M10RS-11 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M10RS-11
[00:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK2HAB-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK2HAB-11
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[01:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IK8SUT-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IK8SUT-11
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[01:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S-14 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-14
[02:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2EAT-15 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2EAT-15
[02:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S13 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S13
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[03:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 030712499350_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=0712499350_chase
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[03:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03kcc 236m_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=kcc%20236m_chase
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[07:42] <pcal> Hi If Babs is on. We've scrubbed the launch for today unfortunately!
[07:43] <PE2BZ> pcal sorry to hear, but I guess it´s a smart decision.
[07:45] <PE2BZ> !flights
[07:45] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03PICO-26 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0cf1), 03Project EOS 10(5f49), 03XABEN-100 10(2b2f), 03Stabilotron-II hardware test 10(fd79), 03USDC Launch 10(dc12), 03ANU 10 10(9b62), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[07:46] <pcal> Yes, we're going to try again in September from a different site.
[07:48] <Babs> Hi pcal - sorry to hear that - thanks for letting me know
[07:49] <Babs> we'll go out and try to launch c. 11
[07:49] <Babs> best do it when you know you are going to stand the best chance of getting your kit back
[07:49] <PE2BZ> Babs good luck !
[07:49] <Babs> thanks
[07:49] <pcal> Yes, after all the work we've put in. Thanks anyway.
[07:50] <pcal> Good luck with your launch. What time are you going. I can track if you like.
[07:51] <Babs> c.11.00 i think. just a low key one this time but would appreciate tracking
[07:52] <pcal> No problem, What time/ frequency?
[07:53] <pcal> sorry just saw the time
[07:55] <pcal> Frequency?
[07:55] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> he adveertised 434.647
[07:56] <pcal> Thanks Jeff
[07:56] <pcal> geoff!
[07:58] <Babs> yes, 434.6475 but will move a bit depending on temperature at site
[08:00] <pcal> Okay Babs no problem I'll set it up now.
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[08:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> !FLIGHTS
[08:25] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[08:25] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Current flights: 03PICO-26 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0cf1), 03Project EOS 10(5f49), 03XABEN-100 10(2b2f), 03Stabilotron-II hardware test 10(fd79), 03USDC Launch 10(dc12), 03ANU 10 10(9b62), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[08:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> !flight dc12
[08:25] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Flight 10(dc12): 03USDC Launch 10(2 payloads) - Launch date 03Today at 10:00 from 10(52.2511,-0.0927)
[08:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> is USDC also flying LoRa ? Nothing on the list and a blank entry usually means LoRa ?
[08:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> Right yes guess it will be Mode 1 in that case
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[08:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> Now the only guess is to frequency!
[08:34] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial usdc-1
[08:34] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03USDC-1 10(dc12): none
[08:34] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial usdc-2
[08:34] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03USDC-2 10(dc12): none
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[08:45] <Geoff-G8DHE> Anybody know who is organising the USDC flights ?
[08:46] <PE2BZ> Tried to find if the skycademia is on facebook, but no luck
[08:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup thats what I was searching for as well :-(
[08:48] <AndyEsser> Isn't Skycademy one of daveake's things?
[08:48] <daveake> "I hope to launch from Elsworth tomorrow, meet at 11am, launch when ready. USDC-1 and USDC-2 434.125 RTTY and 434.300 LoRa."
[08:48] <AndyEsser> ^
[08:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah good
[08:48] <daveake> and yeah that'll be mode 1 lora probably with ssdv
[08:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> .300 it is then!
[08:49] Action: AndyEsser needs to get some lora gear sometime
[08:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> right all setup now - must emphasis at the next skycademy session about posting details!
[08:50] <daveake> yes indeed
[08:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> Maybe get someone to add a bit on the Habitat document page about posting and a link as well ?
[08:51] <daveake> had a meeting at rpi yesterday to discuss what we can remove or simplify in order to give us more time for some of the things that they didn't seem to learn fully last time
[08:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> I guess its in the documentation as well ?
[08:52] <daveake> I put a section in the pits manual yes
[08:52] <daveake> and that will get added to the course
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[08:52] <daveake> Because of lack of time last time James and I did the payload and flight docs for them
[08:53] <daveake> Should be a bit slicker this time
[08:53] <Geoff-G8DHE> shouldn't moan as I guess there pretty busy as well, but its rather frustrating for trackers ;-)
[08:53] <daveake> yes it is
[08:54] <daveake> at least they've all managed to launch working payloads, which is more than some do
[08:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> Is there a skycademy forum or anything ?
[08:54] <daveake> private google group
[08:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> right
[08:54] <daveake> there's an open hab forum on the rpi site also
[08:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> I guess a lot are wary of IRC from schools as well.
[08:55] <daveake> or blocked
[08:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> indeed
[08:55] <daveake> but they've been given mifis for chasing so no excuse not to get online
[08:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh right, that should help them
[08:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> would it be worth offering them a VNC gateway type access as well for IRC I wonder rather than just browser mode ?
[08:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> ZNC not VNC
[08:57] <daveake> Lovely comment from Steve during the Skycademy course launches at Elsworth last year ... he looked a bit bemused after I did the demo launch and the teams all started on their own. "I'm not used to this - they all seem to know what they're doing" :)
[08:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> :-)
[08:57] <daveake> Which, given that they'd had precisely 1 day's training, was quite good I thought :)
[08:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> The thing is none of it is massively complex but there are so many different areas to cover!
[08:58] <daveake> indeed
[08:59] <daveake> things that people have no prior knowledge of
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[09:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> I guess XABEN will also be doing rtty/lora on 434.405 as last time
[09:16] <pb0ahx_> GM all
[09:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL7AD-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-12
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[09:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03kcc 236m_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=kcc%20236m_chase
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[09:40] <EwanP> GM all, please could someone help with a daft Git question. I'm trying to update my PITS LoRa gateway, using git pull origin master but get an error msg about gateway.txt
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[09:40] <EwanP> I've tried reverting to the original gateway.txt but I still get the same error. I'm sure I'm doing something stupid but not quite sure what!
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[09:41] <pcal> Hi Dave, are you going to run another training day?
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[09:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> EwanP, I think you might find that both the new gateway-sample.txt and the oder gateway.txt file are in the download so maybe objecting to any existing gateway.txt
[09:44] <dbrooke> EwanP: if you want to keep the contents of gateway.txt just copy it somewhere else temporarily, if not then just delete it
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[09:46] Action: Geoff-G8DHE time for coffee before the action
[09:47] <EwanP> Geoff-G8DHE, thanks that worked, now to rebuild and get it hooked up and on-line.
[09:49] <dbrooke> Upu's shop seems to have forgotten me 8-(
[09:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> It moved recently
[09:52] <dbrooke> yeah, I found the new one but my account seems to have gone
[09:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its different s/w I think
[09:53] <dbrooke> maybe, I'm registering ...
[09:58] <dbrooke> it let me register the same details so I suppose it must have been a fresh start with the new brand
[09:59] <Upu> dbrooke: we didn't transfer accounts to get a fresh start
[10:00] <Upu> Old database was a bit messy
[10:00] <Upu> So yeah sorry you will need to register
[10:00] <Upu> Afk driving
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[10:07] <dbrooke> Upu: no problem, registered OK
[10:09] <pcal> Babs, let me know when you're up. Haven't picked up anything yet.
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[10:29] <Upu> got it cheers dbrooke
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[10:49] <RocketBoy> todays elsworth livestream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz17mxIrWdc
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[10:52] <Babs> OK, look to be virtually all set
[10:53] <Babs> let me do a couple of sentences through
[10:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ANI - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ANI
[10:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03STABILOTRON-II after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=STABILOTRON-II
[10:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ANU after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ANU
[10:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03STABILOTRON-II - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=STABILOTRON-II
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[11:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03USDC-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=USDC-1
[11:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[11:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> All go at once
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[11:08] <dbrooke> RocketBoy: no echo on the stream here
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[11:11] <RocketBoy> oh - weired
[11:13] <RocketBoy> ok - tas me - two instances of youtube running
[11:13] <PE2BZ> Just wanted to ask ;-)
[11:15] <PE2BZ> I have been struggling with rig control from fldigi last week. Port is busy.... In the background (behind Youtube) I had another instance of fldigi open. So the port was in use :-(
[11:15] <dbrooke> you must have more bandwidth in the field than I do at home 8-)
[11:16] <PE2BZ> A nice HD stream it is indeed !
[11:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> looks like Stabilotron might be about to go
[11:16] <Babs> its gone
[11:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ANU - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ANU
[11:16] <Babs> unfortunately without stabilotron-II attached
[11:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> OH :-(
[11:17] <Babs> too much wind, broke the line
[11:17] <Upu> wow
[11:17] <Upu> no tracker on it ?
[11:17] <daveake> ouch
[11:17] <Babs> not anymore!
[11:17] <Upu> that is disappoint
[11:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> looks like tracker returne to car
[11:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> how many balloons from Elsworth to day ? Or are the trackers on one flight ?
[11:21] <Babs> sorry guys - switching off now
[11:22] <gonzo__> ah, pcal didn't launch. I thought I'd missed it?
[11:24] <AndyEsser> Going to be a while before I pick up any flights :(
[11:24] <dbrooke> Geoff-G8DHE: I think at least 2 from Elsworth
[11:25] <dbrooke> shame about Stabilotron 8-(
[11:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> Thats what I assumed but maybe another team on the other side of the car!
[11:25] <dbrooke> yes, there is
[11:26] <dbrooke> in fact I think the mic is picking up the other team, maybe RocketBoy could move it?
[11:26] <Babs> sorry guys - thanks for those around to track
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[11:30] <pcal> Sorry about that Babs
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[11:36] <AndyEsser> winds picked up a bit
[11:36] <Upu> evie is mesmerised by the stream https://www.dropbox.com/s/i4b91cy4bm84656/2016-07-16%2012.35.16.jpg?dl=0
[11:36] <dbrooke> I was about to say it seemed calm at Elsworth, but then ...
[11:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> cloud is building up over last 30-40 minutes
[11:37] <AndyEsser> Upu: that desk is far too clean and tidy!
[11:38] <pb0ahx> a lot of wind in Elsworth
[11:38] <PE2BZ> Upu : Daddy, can I get a balloon, please ? No, not a small one....
[11:39] <daveake> Upu now post the pic of Evie in her HAB outfit :)
[11:40] <PE2BZ> Uputronics don´t have printed bodysuits (yet)
[11:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah thats AN* flights first then!
[11:43] <PE2BZ> !flights
[11:43] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03PICO-26 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0cf1), 03Project EOS 10(5f49), 03XABEN-100 10(2b2f), 03Stabilotron-II hardware test 10(fd79), 03USDC Launch 10(dc12), 03ANU 10 10(9b62), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[11:43] <PE2BZ> !payload 9b62
[11:43] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03ANU 10(9b62) 03$$ANU - 03ANU - 03434.52 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/470Hz ASCII-7 none 2
[11:43] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03ANI 10(9b62) 03$$ANI - 03ANI - 03434.42 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/470Hz ASCII-7 none 2
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[11:47] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh look a weight bottle to keep Steve on the ground as well ;-)
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[11:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2016_Flights/ANU_20160716/Capture.JPG
[11:50] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/YfKCvHh
[11:51] <AndyEsser> suspect I'm going to be next to useless tracking these :(
[11:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> I'n good today! http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2016_Flights/ANU_20160716/Screenshot-2016-07-16-125147.png
[11:52] <PE2BZ> What´s the black box left to the microphone ?
[11:53] <Geoff-G8DHE> A Black Box
[11:53] <AndyEsser> peli-type case for the camera?
[11:53] <PE2BZ> Geoff :-)
[11:53] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser makes sense...
[11:53] <AndyEsser> tis just a guess, but would be my assumption
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[11:57] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser +1 for the case
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[11:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> which is XABEN on then ?
[11:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> not seen that at all
[11:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03USDC-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=USDC-2
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[12:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03R_S_CHASE_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=R_S_CHASE_chase
[12:01] <RocketBoy> no XABEN-100 today - I bought an empty clyender of helium instead of a full clyiner of hydrogen
[12:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial ANU
[12:01] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03ANU 10(9b62): 03434.5193 MHz, 14.07 MHz, 434.52 MHz, 434.519752 MHz
[12:01] <AndyEsser> RocketBoy: oops
[12:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial ANI
[12:01] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03ANI 10(9b62): 03434.4204 MHz, 434.4206 MHz
[12:02] <AndyEsser> ANI/ANU should just about be coming into view for me
[12:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0MDB_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0MDB_chase
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[12:04] <Ron_g8fjg> Is udc2 lora 1 or 0
[12:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> I've assumed mode=1 till I see it !
[12:06] <PE2BZ> ANU in the green over here
[12:06] <AndyEsser> "08:48:59< daveake> and yeah that'll be mode 1 lora probably with ssdv"
[12:07] <dbrooke> forgot to enable SSDV upload from the LoRa gateway
[12:07] <Ron_g8fjg> I just get crc failure for 0 and 1 ...it only looks about 20k wide
[12:07] <Upu> whats the lora frequency ?
[12:07] <dbrooke> it's 434.3079MHz for me
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[12:07] <Upu> ta
[12:07] <Ron_g8fjg> 434.300
[12:08] <G8JNJ> What RTTY parameters for ANI - I can't decode
[12:08] <dbrooke> so a bit higher than quoted
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[12:08] <AndyEsser> G8JNJ: shouldbe 50 Baud, 470 Shift, 7n2
[12:10] <G8JNJ> Yep that's what I thought - Thnaks
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[12:12] <AndyEsser> G8JNJ: haven't decoded it myself yet, it's still a bit far away, but that's what is posted
[12:12] <AndyEsser> :)
[12:12] <Upu> Airspy + SDR Radio V3 is corking for this http://i.imgur.com/CAZOIqH.jpg
[12:12] <dbrooke> it is that, though I've just retuned that radio
[12:12] <G8JNJ> Ah OK that's different :-)
[12:13] <AndyEsser> Upu: I really need to have a play with SDR Radio
[12:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its nice still using SDR2 myself
[12:14] <AndyEsser> I like the idea of being able to track multiple payloads
[12:14] <Upu> you can see the lora
[12:15] <Upu> on the waterfall
[12:15] <AndyEsser> Upu: around 434.450?
[12:15] <G8JNJ> Andy use the SUWS WEB SDR - I have three tabs open on different frequencies - I just click the mute button on the two not in use.
[12:15] <PE2BZ> I assume 434.307 around
[12:16] <AndyEsser> G8JNJ: where's the fun in that when I have my own gear :P
[12:16] <G8JNJ> Just sayin :-)
[12:16] <PE2BZ> SSDV USDC-2: Image 58, Packet 34
[12:17] <G8JNJ> ANU decodes with ease but ANI is noot so good :-(
[12:17] <AndyEsser> joy... ANI is the one I'm going for
[12:18] <PE2BZ> Just remember that ctrl-c does copy the line from the terminal window running LoRa-Gateway but also terminates the program :-(
[12:18] <AndyEsser> heh, don't spend much time in command line?
[12:18] <PE2BZ> ANI seems spinning / QSB on signal ?
[12:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> its several db down on ANU
[12:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03REGGIE - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=REGGIE
[12:19] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser My windows refuses the LS command. I did want to copy dir.exe to ls.exe every now and then...
[12:19] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: install cygwin
[12:19] <AndyEsser> if you must be in windows
[12:20] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/0UZfErX
[12:20] <AndyEsser> definitely not going to get the USDC stuff...
[12:21] <PE2BZ> I run the Piinthesky from a terminal in Windows. Copying and pasting a line of text is somehow re-inventing for to remember which system I am on ;-)
[12:22] <AndyEsser> realistically I'm only going to be able to get ANI so lets hope it's not too bad :(
[12:23] <G8JNJ> What's on 434.127MHz with a high baud rate ?
[12:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> should be USCD
[12:23] <G8JNJ> OK ta
[12:24] <dbrooke> Geoff-G8DHE: look at the USDC stats Pie chart - G6GZH_L is uploads from the LoRa telemetry.txt, G6GZH_A is RTTY, G6GZH should be the sum of those so there's definitely an issue with upload from the LoRa gateway itself
[12:24] <Geoff-G8DHE> 330/700Hz
[12:24] <Geoff-G8DHE> 300B/700Hz
[12:24] <number10_M0MDB> ANI hit the weat field so antennas a bit bent
[12:24] <AndyEsser> :(
[12:26] <AndyEsser> need to get me an airpsy and habamp as well
[12:26] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser and a Pi with LoRa and an antenna splitter ?
[12:26] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: maybe
[12:27] <AndyEsser> LORA is lower priority for me, as I don't plan on flying any flights with it
[12:27] <AndyEsser> anyone used SDR Console with an RTL dongle?
[12:27] <PE2BZ> Image 62 is nice !
[12:28] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser yes, daily, any problems ?
[12:29] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: just unsure how to get the SDR console to read from the RTL, the only option in the dropdown is RTL TCP
[12:29] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser it needs (3 I guess) copied DLL files to recognize the dongle. One moment.
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[12:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> have you loaded the right drivers
[12:30] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser http://m3ghe.blogspot.nl/p/adding-support-for-rtl-sdr-usb-dongles.html
[12:30] <AndyEsser> Geoff-G8DHE: almost 100% certainly not :)
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[12:30] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: ta!
[12:30] <PE2BZ> Make that a 100% ;-)
[12:31] <AndyEsser> SDR Server, basically does SDR Console without the Front-end, and then you can hook SDR console to it?
[12:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> yup, either open to the net or locally over LAN
[12:31] <AndyEsser> ok, cool, so I can run the Server on my PC (which has the dongle)
[12:32] <AndyEsser> but then Console + fldigi on my laptop downstairs
[12:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> or out at work or where ever
[12:32] <AndyEsser> Yea
[12:32] <AndyEsser> makes sense
[12:32] <AndyEsser> let me get the support stuff for SDR console in first
[12:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> only bandwidth limited of course
[12:32] <AndyEsser> will be much more helpful to have stuff running on my laptop
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[12:36] <PE2BZ> Server does not take that much of bandwidth luckily. However, RDS decoding and recording of IQ does not work with server / client connection. I also have some problems with the satellite tracker for doppler with a server connection.
[12:37] <AndyEsser> ok, SDR server service is running, and I have the Radio in
[12:37] <AndyEsser> is.. that it for Server?
[12:40] <AndyEsser> I have sound!
[12:40] <AndyEsser> :)
[12:41] <PE2BZ> +1 for Andy !
[12:41] <AndyEsser> now to figure out buttons and hat not
[12:41] <AndyEsser> RF gain, controlled by server or console?
[12:42] <PE2BZ> Do you run server with dongle on one and listen on remote ?
[12:42] <AndyEsser> yes
[12:42] <PE2BZ> Then if you start the server you set the gain on the remote.
[12:44] <PE2BZ> You have a button ¨Radio configuration¨ on the ¨Home¨ tab where you can set the ppm compensation and the AGC. I mostly have that on and then left to the radio configuration is the gain setting
[12:44] <AndyEsser> Yep cheers
[12:44] <AndyEsser> disabled AGC
[12:44] <AndyEsser> and stuck RF Gain at 49dB
[12:47] <AndyEsser> !flights
[12:47] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Current flights: 03PICO-26 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0cf1), 03Project EOS 10(5f49), 03XABEN-100 10(2b2f), 03Stabilotron-II hardware test 10(fd79), 03USDC Launch 10(dc12), 03ANU 10 10(9b62), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[12:47] <AndyEsser> !dial USDC
[12:47] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[12:47] <AndyEsser> !dial USDC-1
[12:47] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Latest dials for 03USDC-1 10(dc12): 03434.1258 MHz, 434.12564 MHz, 434.1255 MHz
[12:47] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: is there a convenient way to type in a frequency, rather than clicking?
[12:48] <PE2BZ> There is. But I never use it. Scroll with your mouse at the 100 MHz, than at the 10 and then at the 1. Than add a favourite for a common frequency, next time tune up or down from there. That´s how I do it.
[12:49] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> I have it so click in pane and type freq.
[12:51] <AndyEsser> I've done something and now when I click in waterfall it's controlling B... not VFO A...
[12:52] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Select the VFOby button at top of window/pane
[12:52] <PE2BZ> Close VFO B
[12:52] <AndyEsser> Yea, when hovering over the waterfall it still said B above the frequency I was hovered over
[12:53] <PE2BZ> You can for start change the settings to have only one VFO. On the other hand, you wanted to monitor 2 signals at the same time ;-)
[12:53] <AndyEsser> True, but starting with 1 might be good so I know how to use the program haha
[12:54] <PE2BZ> At the right top, just below the X there is a settings icon
[12:54] <PE2BZ> That gives an Options menu, with a setting for VFO´s
[12:55] <AndyEsser> o0o have to restart
[12:55] <PE2BZ> There you can set maximum VFO´s at 1 and restart the console (can be done from the software, left top antenna symbol)
[12:55] <PE2BZ> Save your favourite first, or as memory
[12:55] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: how can I zoom in/out on the waterfall?
[12:56] <PE2BZ> The menu bar on top of the waterfall shows a Span button
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[12:56] <AndyEsser> ta
[12:57] <PE2BZ> And at the right is the Center button. But with the rtl-sdr you would not tune your RX frequency to the center because of the DC spike
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[12:59] <AndyEsser> well now I've definitely broked it :P
[12:59] <AndyEsser> nothing seems to be coming through the VB Audio Cable
[12:59] <AndyEsser> despite having it set as the playback device
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[13:00] <PE2BZ> Having it set in SDR-Console ?
[13:00] <AndyEsser> yea
[13:00] <AndyEsser> it appears to have the AF gain very low
[13:00] <AndyEsser> tuned to a large RF signal, and it's only a blip in fldigi
[13:00] <AndyEsser> despite volume being 100 in SDR Console
[13:00] <PE2BZ> Output not muted ?
[13:01] <AndyEsser> nope, I can hear it now, it's just very very quiet
[13:01] <AndyEsser> even with a large signal
[13:02] <PE2BZ> Which mode are you receiving ?
[13:02] <AndyEsser> USB
[13:02] <PE2BZ> Did you use the virtual audio before, or just installed it ?
[13:02] <AndyEsser> used it before
[13:02] <AndyEsser> it's what I've used for SDR
[13:02] <AndyEsser> SDR#
[13:02] <AndyEsser> *
[13:02] <AndyEsser> stupid keyboard
[13:03] <AndyEsser> !dial ANI
[13:03] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Latest dials for 03ANI 10(9b62): 03434.4204 MHz, 434.420099 MHz, 434.419967 MHz, 434.4199 MHz
[13:03] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> You have selected it in SDR Radio in the vFO window for output
[13:03] <AndyEsser> Yes
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[13:03] <PE2BZ> And not by accident any FM (stereo) window open, which uses it´s ¨own¨ output channel >
[13:03] <PE2BZ> > = ?
[13:03] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/wVGTI5K
[13:04] <AndyEsser> as I said, I do get something in fldigi, it's just very little something, given the magnitude of the RF signal I tuned to
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[13:05] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> you have slide the slider up for level
[13:05] <AndyEsser> volume is 100
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[13:05] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/eWt8QYj
[13:06] <AndyEsser> that signal there, results in this in fldigi
[13:06] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/TD11RgO
[13:06] <AndyEsser> I'd have expected fldigi to basically be overloaded
[13:06] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> you have no audio in the bandwidth shown
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[13:06] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> it will just be noise
[13:07] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/4lfY26k
[13:07] <AndyEsser> I'd expect more than just a dark blue blip in fldigi for that signal
[13:07] <AndyEsser> (see audio filter has been shifted to include signal now)
[13:08] <PE2BZ> You did use it on SDR#, so you know it should work. Did you check if fldigi is on the right input ? Sorry, have to ask the obviouw
[13:08] <PE2BZ> obvious
[13:08] <AndyEsser> yes, hence why it gets something
[13:08] <AndyEsser> it's just not a loud something
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[13:09] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> That just doesn't look loud to me and only one carrier, try using an FM broadcast to start with
[13:09] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> what do you hear with that fed to the speakers
[13:10] <AndyEsser> let me go find an FM station :)
[13:10] <PE2BZ> BBC would be strong enough ;-)
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[13:10] <AndyEsser> oww..
[13:10] <AndyEsser> my ears hurt now
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[13:12] <AndyEsser> how wide are FM stations!?
[13:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> Select FM Steroe broadcast
[13:13] <AndyEsser> ah, there we go
[13:13] <AndyEsser> my ears
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[13:13] <AndyEsser> so that works plenty :)
[13:13] <AndyEsser> and fldigi has what I'd expect for a decent strength signal
[13:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> I don't think you had the mode or bandwidth right before
[13:14] <AndyEsser> hmm
[13:14] <AndyEsser> strange, I definitely had USB set, and a filter of 3kHZ
[13:14] <AndyEsser> let me flick back and see
[13:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> what was the signal you were tuned into before
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[13:16] <AndyEsser> I'm wondering if they were just really quiet signalts
[13:16] <AndyEsser> does the waterfall spectrum colour change based on the lowest and highest values within the range you're looking at?
[13:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> I think you only had a single carrier in bandwidth
[13:17] <AndyEsser> Geoff-G8DHE: yes, it wasn't a properly locked signal
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[13:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> you can vary it click on display and set resolution etc.
[13:17] <AndyEsser> but the point was how weakly it was coming into fldigi
[13:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> without two signals it would be nothng for the modem to play with
[13:17] <AndyEsser> Geoff-G8DHE: yep just noticed that slider - it appears the signal I thought was "loud" was actually like... -80dB
[13:17] <AndyEsser> Geoff-G8DHE: but I'd still expect a tone - I'm not talking about decoding
[13:18] <AndyEsser> I'd expect to see something on the waterfall in fldigi
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[13:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> indeed but I think the dynmic range you had set was odd
[13:18] <AndyEsser> now that I know the signal I was testing with was actully quite weak - it makes much more sense
[13:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> there is a lot more functionality built in then in SDR#
[13:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> but it does make for a steeper learning curve!
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[13:19] <AndyEsser> Heh, well hopefully these payloads keep climbing - and I get close to the 5 degree circle, and can try to actually get a signal
[13:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> another thing you will want to add is the Frequency control back from fldigi to SDR-Console to make it follow
[13:20] <AndyEsser> let me get this bit working first :P
[13:20] <AndyEsser> I'm used to manually adjusting in fldigi :P
[13:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> Indeed, I have some files when you get to that stage!
[13:21] <AndyEsser> !dials ANU
[13:21] <AndyEsser> !dial ANU
[13:21] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Latest dials for 03ANU 10(9b62): 0314.07 MHz, 434.520252 MHz, 0.006 MHz, 434.5198 MHz, 434.520426 MHz, 434.52 MHz
[13:21] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser what´s your gain settings now ? And did you correct the PPM ?
[13:21] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: gain is 49.6dB same as I had before in SDR#
[13:21] <AndyEsser> and I don't have a value to correct the PPM with
[13:22] <PE2BZ> Any local (on nearby) repeater on a known frequency will do
[13:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> Use the broadcast stations later on to check that
[13:22] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: have tried it before, can't find one and get a known frequency
[13:22] <PE2BZ> That´s necessary because it could be 10 - 20 kHz off
[13:22] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: it wasn't that far off when in SDR#
[13:22] <AndyEsser> will Console change that?
[13:23] <AndyEsser> isn't the PPM correction based on the hardware, not the program?
[13:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> well it won't have set the PPM value
[13:23] <AndyEsser> ie 420MHz in the hardware isn't actually 420MHz
[13:23] <PE2BZ> PPM in SDR# will not differ from SDR-Console
[13:23] <AndyEsser> so then I don't need to worry about it atm
[13:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> yes because SDR-console doesn't know the setting
[13:23] <PE2BZ> But for the gain, fixed at 49 dB with your diamond would not be the best setting
[13:24] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: but it's worked fine before, so it should still work now, right?
[13:24] <Geoff-G8DHE> the ppm setting isn't stored in hardware
[13:24] <AndyEsser> I know that
[13:24] <AndyEsser> I didn't adjust PPM in SDR#
[13:24] <AndyEsser> the dongle is close enough
[13:24] <AndyEsser> I shouldn't have to adjust PPM to make it work, just to be accurate
[13:24] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah right I see what you mean
[13:25] <AndyEsser> so whatever the difference was in SDR# is still the same difference now
[13:25] <AndyEsser> which is "good enough"
[13:25] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser play with the gain. Find the best value for carrier to noise. I would be supprised if 38 dB is not better than 49 dB and for the HAB I would certainly turn AGC on in the radio options for the dongle
[13:25] Action: AndyEsser must stop playing with the colour palette
[13:25] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: interesting... everyone else here has always suggested AGC off
[13:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> Only when testing
[13:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> same with all filters when newbies come up
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[13:27] <AndyEsser> brb
[13:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> otherwise all weird settings can result, so switch them off to make sure
[13:27] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser for ¨my¨ radiosondes and HAB´s I find about 6 dB better SN with AGC on in the radio settings. But that´s a different AGC setting from the one above the 49 dB !
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[13:31] <PE2BZ> Geoff had my first HAB decode try with RTA on. Did not work ;-) Only noticed it after the flight ...
[13:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> That's the sorrt of problem, and diagnosing that from single frames is a PAIN!
[13:32] <PE2BZ> Does anyone else notice a lot of Bad CRC on the LoRa transmission ?
[13:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> getting a few more than usual
[13:34] <Geoff-G8DHE> and yes there is fading on it
[13:34] <PE2BZ> 474 image packets, 1103 bad crc 0 bad type
[13:35] <Geoff-G8DHE> Telem Packets = 493 (0s)
[13:35] <Geoff-G8DHE> Image Packets = 2024 (2s)
[13:35] <Geoff-G8DHE> Bad CRC = 303 Bad Type = 1
[13:35] <pb0ahx> here now image packets 1236 bad crc 430 bad type 0
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[13:36] <PE2BZ> Baas boven baas ;-)
[13:37] <pcal> has anyone got the exact frequency for USDC-1?
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[13:37] <PE2BZ> 434.125 over here, spot on, USB
[13:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> 43<<2016-07-16T13:37Z RTTY @ 434125861+1504>>
[13:38] <pcal> thanks
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[13:38] <AndyEsser> !dial ANI
[13:38] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Latest dials for 03ANI 10(9b62): 03434.4204 MHz, 434.420067 MHz, 434.420099 MHz, 434.4199 MHz
[13:38] <AndyEsser> !dial ANU
[13:38] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Latest dials for 03ANU 10(9b62): 03434.520399 MHz, 434.5198 MHz, 434.52 MHz, 434.520252 MHz, 434.520053 MHz, 14.07 MHz, 0.006 MHz, 434.52148 MHz
[13:39] <AndyEsser> right, getting ANU
[13:39] <AndyEsser> albeit with a lot of QRM
[13:39] <pb0ahx> ploffffffffff
[13:39] <PE2BZ> Great ! Now play with the gain ;-)
[13:40] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: that was falling back on SDR# so I could confirm I was getting it :P
[13:40] <PE2BZ> pb0ahx ? which one ?
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[13:40] <pb0ahx> usdc
[13:40] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser :-((((
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[13:41] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/O8xLOpS
[13:41] <AndyEsser> appear to have it on SDR console now
[13:41] <AndyEsser> but so quiet that fldigi isn't showing anything on its waterfall
[13:42] <PE2BZ> Now lower the gain from 49 to 41 and watch if it improves
[13:43] <AndyEsser> stuck AGC back on and it's flooding fldigi but I can make out two tones, just not enough for a decode
[13:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03test after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=test
[13:46] <AndyEsser> although the signal appears to have disappeared
[13:46] <pjm> copying ANU here in dorset
[13:46] <pjm> not a bad signal really
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[13:50] <pb0ahx> yessssssssss more than 100 ssdv pakkets received in lora
[13:50] <AndyEsser> I can hear very weak RTTY
[13:51] <AndyEsser> pb0ahx: nice
[13:51] <pb0ahx> this is my first time that i received many good pakkets in lora nice
[13:51] <chrisg7ogx> watching that green circle ...come to Cornwall, just for a while!
[13:52] <AndyEsser> o god, I've discovered the Satellite Tracker in SDR Console
[13:52] <AndyEsser> this'll make getting NOAA passes fully automated a doddle
[13:52] <AndyEsser> :)
[13:52] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser O no.... There goes your free time ;-)
[13:52] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: TBH the few NOAA passes I've grabbed, whilst cool to get satellite images... I don't have the right antenna, so have been utter shite
[13:53] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser with the satellite tracker doppler correction also works. That improves your images
[13:53] <AndyEsser> nice
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[13:53] <AndyEsser> might try and get it set up to do a bunch of automatic passes tomorrow
[13:54] <AndyEsser> can I run multiple SDR consoles connected to the same SDR Server?
[13:54] <chrisg7ogx> yes
[13:54] <pcal> what frequency for ANU pjm?
[13:54] <PE2BZ> habitat seems a but busy at the moment, espacially the stats :-)
[13:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> you can run 6 VFO's and then open another panel, but need lots or processing power
[13:54] <PE2BZ> ANU 434.520
[13:54] <PE2BZ> pjm ? I don´t know
[13:55] <pcal> thank you pe
[13:55] <AndyEsser> Geoff-G8DHE: processing power isn't too much of an issue on my PC
[13:55] <PE2BZ> I saw it running at 1 % ....
[13:55] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: this my laptop
[13:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yes but all the other things at the same time can sometimes cause problems
[13:55] <PE2BZ> That´s a fast one
[13:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> I'm only using 2% and CUDA for 4 VFO's but once I hit 6 VFO's it starts to have sometimes
[13:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> heave*
[13:57] <AndyEsser> Yea, I'll get it to use CUDA on my PC - my laptop doesn't have a suitable GFX card
[13:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> most oftem the audio streams get a bit iffy probably IRQ latency
[14:00] <AndyEsser> I can hear RTTY trying to break through
[14:01] <AndyEsser> last few times I've been able to get the signals much sooner
[14:01] <AndyEsser> but Elsworth launches are right in the direction of my roof blocking the antenna
[14:05] <chrisg7ogx> Come on Ani hold out for just a little longer..
[14:07] <PE2BZ> Trying to break a record ?
[14:07] <AndyEsser> aw, burst :(
[14:07] <AndyEsser> 40,267 last reported by ANU
[14:07] <AndyEsser> descending at 40m/s now
[14:07] <chrisg7ogx> nooooooooooooooo
[14:08] <AndyEsser> 40,305m by ANI
[14:08] <AndyEsser> going for a water landing
[14:08] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ / Geoff-G8DHE: thanks for help with SDR Console today
[14:09] <AndyEsser> might dig my tracker breadboard out and see how it behaves with that so I can get some familiarity with it
[14:09] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser NP !
[14:09] <AndyEsser> and also try for some NOAA passes
[14:09] <AndyEsser> in fact
[14:09] <AndyEsser> when is the next one today
[14:09] <Geoff-G8DHE> No problem
[14:09] <AndyEsser> o wow, lots of late ones today
[14:10] <AndyEsser> next one at 16:32 local
[14:10] <PE2BZ> Don´t switch to V3 of SDR-console yet. It works but has a lot of things not implemented yet.
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[14:10] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: couldn't find the download link for V3 anyway :)
[14:11] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: so how do I make use of the Satellite Tracking/Doppler stuff for NOAA in SDR Console?
[14:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> AndyEsser, when you want to run freq. control you will need these files in dl-fldigi http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/sdr_test_VFO.zip to talk to serial ports in SDR-Console
[14:11] <AndyEsser> ta
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[14:14] <PE2BZ> Geoff-G8DHE would that work for all SDR´s or rtl-sdr only ?
[14:14] <RocketBoy> !dial USDC-2
[14:14] <SpacenearUS> 03RocketBoy: Latest dials for 03USDC-2 10(dc12): none
[14:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> Nothng to do with the dongle, this allows dl-fldigi to talk with SDR-Console to control freq. and toher seetinsg
[14:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> other settings*
[14:15] <PE2BZ> Thanks !
[14:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> you need to setup a load of virtual serial ports!
[14:17] <AndyEsser> how archaic
[14:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> but its all that it supports :-( I do agree
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[14:19] <AndyEsser> I do want to make my own version of fldigi etc, but it will use the same thing, Audio Piping and serial ports of control, most likely
[14:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> unless he has updated it on v3 of sdr-console, I did ask for better methods mnot looked so far!
[14:19] <AndyEsser> tried and true method
[14:24] <Geoff-G8DHE> Humm, I think this means not likely http://v2.sdr-radio.com/Software/Plugins
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[14:27] <AndyEsser> Geoff-G8DHE: can write a DLL that exposes control over TCP
[14:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> There you are then, something to while away a few hours ;-)
[14:28] <AndyEsser> Geoff-G8DHE: my todo list is already pretty large...
[14:28] <AndyEsser> I'd personally like to write my own version of SDR#/SDR Console as well, but that's WAY down the list :)
[14:28] <AndyEsser> fldigi first :P
[14:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> dl-fldigi does need someone with the time and capability to play with it and update it a bit
[14:29] <AndyEsser> that is not me :P
[14:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> argh you no fun
[14:29] <AndyEsser> all I Want to do is have a command line tool that takes in audio, and decodes RTTY :P
[14:30] <AndyEsser> it may expand with more modems, but we'll see
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[14:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> :)
[14:30] <AndyEsser> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cdqyul2W8AAvLkQ.jpg
[14:31] <AndyEsser> good lord, haven't touched that in 4 months :(
[14:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> So there you are plenty of time to spare ;-)
[14:32] <AndyEsser> given that last night was the first night off I've had from work since starting the new job 2 weeks ago
[14:32] <AndyEsser> no :P
[14:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> You need more fun in your life!
[14:33] <AndyEsser> yes
[14:33] <AndyEsser> but also... money
[14:33] <AndyEsser> :)
[14:33] <AndyEsser> so since overtime was going
[14:33] <AndyEsser> I thought I'd make the most of it :)
[14:33] <RocketBoy> last packet I have for USDC-2 is $$USDC-1,647,14:31:38,52.16718,1.48356,00121,35,89,12,8.6,0.0,0.000*2EA6
[14:33] <RocketBoy> 121m
[14:34] <AndyEsser> not bad :)
[14:34] <RocketBoy> thiought they might be interested
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[14:35] <AndyEsser> Geoff-G8DHE: but as it stands, I have 3 projects planned for my launches
[14:35] <AndyEsser> ead-modem -> ead-data -> ead-uplink
[14:35] <AndyEsser> ead-data is what it's in that screenshot
[14:35] <AndyEsser> ls -lh
[14:35] <AndyEsser> ...
[14:36] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/RU4QIi8
[14:37] <AndyEsser> It did get a bit of an update since that last Twitter pic
[14:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> Right!
[14:38] <AndyEsser> Left!
[14:40] <AndyEsser> I really need to find time to get stuck into this stuff again :(
[14:40] <AndyEsser> it'll be a year soon since getting into it and not actually launching :(
[14:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> Life does get hectic at times, then when you do get time to retire, the urgency goes!
[14:41] <AndyEsser> at least I've been tracking and helping recovery (cough, X7 cough) to keep me involved :)
[14:41] <AndyEsser> ha
[14:41] <AndyEsser> I just need to finally get my circuit diagram turned into a PCB and get them ordered
[14:41] <AndyEsser> at least that'll be a major bit of work done
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[14:42] <pb0ahx> ANU team mni tnx for this day
[14:43] <pb0ahx> USDC-2 MNi tnx for good lora signaal here was my best receiving with LORA tnx
[14:43] <edmoore> AndyEsser: curse you
[14:43] <edmoore> looks good
[14:44] <AndyEsser> :)
[14:44] <AndyEsser> Getting you back for showing me sexy connectors
[14:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> looks like daveake is aiming for the stars!
[14:45] <Geoff-G8DHE> with REGGIE
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[14:53] <daveake> Eh what?
[14:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh no just thought REGGIE was your from a glance at the map but its not!
[14:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its right next to you
[14:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> and its SSDV pictures
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[15:11] <number10_M0MDB> anu recovered, just missed railway line an landed in garden
[15:12] <number10_M0MDB> they were having a BBQ
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[15:13] <PE2BZ> Great ! Could you join ?
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[15:14] <AndyEsser> number10_M0MDB: ha, that must've been amusing for them
[15:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> BBQ'd payload ?
[15:15] <PE2BZ> USDC-1 also seems close to recovery
[15:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> -1m elevation! Might be marshy and a long way from the road around the streams!
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[15:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03MIKEL-5 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MIKEL-5
[15:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03S-15 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S-15
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[16:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03S11 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S11
[16:34] <jakeio> Is there any reason why it's taking ages for my telemetry strings to appear on the map? They're appearing in the parser log.
[16:41] <RocketBoy> define ages
[16:44] <number10> RocketBoy: that 2013 balloon must have been a special - would have been nice to do H2
[16:45] <number10> pb0ahx: how was the signal - where you on ANU? was there much QRM
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[16:51] <arjunnaha> On a NOTAM, what does this mean? WI 2NM RADIUS
[16:52] <stilldavid> within 2 nautical mile radius
[16:52] <arjunnaha> Ah, thanks
[16:57] <RocketBoy> number10: great that you got it back - that box was marked O wasnt it ?
[16:58] <number10> RocketBoy: yes looks like an O
[16:59] <RocketBoy> Ill see if I have any of those in my cache of vintage HY-1600s
[17:00] <RocketBoy> what was the payload weight?
[17:02] <number10> 370g including 45g added for string tape and ties
[17:05] <number10> I was planning 1200 neck lift - spilt some water, and put a coupe of small squirts in to make up
[17:19] <arjunnaha> Anyone here familiar with Cirencester?
[17:24] <RocketBoy> number10: I recon on about a very respectable 43Km (141,000ft) with 50g payload and Hydrogen - not bad for a 3 year old balloon
[17:24] <SIbot> In real units: 141,000 ft = 43 km
[17:24] <RocketBoy> stupid SIbot
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[17:25] <daveake> RocketBoy: I flew a new HY1600 to 41.3km a couple of weeks ago, filled to lift 850g (actually flew about 750g due to removing a tracker)
[17:25] <daveake> bit more than I was expecting
[17:27] <RocketBoy> was that an AJ
[17:27] <RocketBoy> marked box
[17:27] <daveake> 1 sec
[17:28] <daveake> <goes to bin>
[17:28] <daveake> </bin>
[17:28] <daveake> yes
[17:28] <RocketBoy> thought so
[17:28] Action: daveake orders more AJs :)
[17:34] <number10> I just ordered the last ones daveake ;-)
[17:34] <number10> most of the balloon got tangles up on the chute - I am about to weigh it
[17:38] <number10> cant see any markings on the box of the 1600 I got this year.
[17:40] <RocketBoy> if only - they are all gone (apart from 1 - which I was going to fly today https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2sJ6cUJZIiFQ19rTWtvS2JYQzg )
[17:41] <RocketBoy> number10: really - is it marked 1600
[17:41] <number10> just has box weigh 1970 in usual place
[17:41] <number10> may have some tape over it
[17:41] <RocketBoy> and you got it fro me?
[17:42] <RocketBoy> from
[17:42] <number10> yes
[17:42] <number10> may have been smaller writing and come off with tape
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[17:44] <RocketBoy> possibly - its difficult to think it wasnt marked at all - it would have broken my rotation system
[17:54] <number10> 950g of the balloon came down today
[18:01] <RocketBoy> thats quite a lot
[18:01] <RocketBoy> still not enough to get the glue out
[18:05] <RocketBoy> I wonder if the USDC chaps got their payload back
[18:05] <RocketBoy> looked tricky to get too
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[18:07] <Guest_83847> Allah is doing
[18:07] <Guest_83847> sun is not doing Allah is doing
[18:07] <Guest_83847> moon is not doing Allah is doing
[18:08] <Guest_83847> stars are not doing Allah is doing
[18:08] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> oh no, not again!
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[18:10] <arjunnaha> What's the legality of launching from public green spaces?
[18:13] <edmoore> it's legal
[18:13] <arjunnaha> Would the council be able to say no, if it wanted to?
[18:14] <SpeedEvil> On the topic of illegal things. Man carrying pulsejet quadjet.
[18:17] <number10> nature reserve I think for USDC
[18:18] <number10> aha I have a 1200 balloon marked AJ..
[18:19] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> if the council sais no dont do it, or dont ask and do it anyway
[18:19] <arjunnaha> might just take the second option ;)
[18:20] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> I go for that one :)
[18:20] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> council not htere on weekends i guess, what u dont know does not hurt anyone
[18:21] <jakeio> Could anyone tell me how significantly range is affected by bandwidth? I've been testing my LoRa radio at the max bandwidth of 250kHz.
[18:21] <jakeio> Oh, no, the max is 500kHz!
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[18:27] <PE2BZ> jakeio CW has 500 Hz bandwidht and travels the most far (except for digi modes like wspr and so on) so, with the largest bandwidth your output power is divided over a larger frequency space
[18:28] <PE2BZ> That is not always bad, for error correction and so on you need bandwidth. However, for RTTY as example, I receive 50 or 75 baud about 40 km further as 300 baud
[18:35] <RocketBoy> There is some data in the SX1276/77/78/79 data sheet which you should be able to work out the effect.
[18:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8ELK-1 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
[18:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-1 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
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[18:38] <SP3OSJ> #habhub
[18:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[18:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03default_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=default_chase
[18:55] <jakeio> Thanks RocketBoy and PE2BZ!
[19:05] <SP3OSJ> please habhub my fly enter
[19:06] <SP3OSJ> Doc ID:27e9257e07cf9db841fd5793a97613b4
[19:06] <PE2BZ> SP3OSJ I guess you should join a channel, select #habhub and ask it over there
[19:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> An Admin will be along shorty! However if it hasn't been tested in 1 year it might be a good idea to put a few records thru the system.
[19:07] <SP3OSJ> There's no one I wait 30 minutes
[19:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JMHS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JMHS
[19:08] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> It can be longer its meal time in UK and a Saturday evening so minimal number of Admins about
[19:08] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Humm are you launching tonight ?
[19:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP3OSJ - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP3OSJ
[19:32] <AndyEsser> I totally haven't just spec'd a £6000 PC on Scan...
[19:33] <AndyEsser> 128GB RAM... 2x Xeon E5-2640s (10 Cores... * 2)
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[19:36] <jakeio> Why?
[19:38] <AndyEsser> I got a bit click happy with the configuration :P
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[20:01] <___BEN___> AndyEsser you could virtualize 5 clients and feel better about it.
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[20:40] <craag> How do I get a permanent link to a flight's ssdv?
[20:40] <craag> eg. GILWEL on 10th July
[20:41] <craag> I remember it's some combination of the callsign and date in the url
[20:43] Nick change: Kryczek_ -> Kryczek
[20:45] <craag> !track GILWELL24
[20:45] <SpacenearUS> 03craag: Here you go - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GILWELL24
[20:54] <dbrooke> craag: seems it was 9th not 10th http://ssdv.habhub.org/GILWEL/2016-07-09
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[20:55] <craag> dbrooke: Ah yes... it was just one day for us onsite ;)
[20:55] <craag> thanks!
[20:55] <craag> The reason I'm suddenly asking.... http://imgur.com/ULmIviZ
[20:57] <dbrooke> oh, it returned
[20:59] <craag> Yep, found yesterday near here: https://goo.gl/maps/CuEaHD4HMbS2
[20:59] <PE2BZ> craag awsome !
[21:00] <dbrooke> you seem to have quite a high success rate for recovering sea landings
[21:00] <PE2BZ> craag that´s the second one that ends up there !
[21:01] <craag> dbrooke: Higher ratio than my land-landings :P
[21:01] <craag> PE2BZ: Interesting..
[21:02] <PE2BZ> It must have been the shape http://nerdsville.blogspot.nl/2015/08/madhen-eggsplorer-1-found.html
[21:02] <dbrooke> perhaps you should just make sure they'll float and aim for the sea 8-)
[21:02] <SpeedEvil> http://www.cfsnet.co.uk/acatalog/CFS_Catalogue__2_Part_Polyurethane_Foam_Liquid_415.html
[21:02] <SpeedEvil> on a related topic
[21:06] <fsphil> lots of testing on the ssdv page today
[21:08] <PE2BZ> Upu sent me a new LoRa board for fixed mounting at work. Testing @ 10 mW at home now...
[21:08] <fsphil> who's sending the image of M31?
[21:13] <jakesully123456> fsphil, that may have been me.
[21:13] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> REGGIE is the callsign and it was a bt South of daveake eralier on the map.
[21:14] <fsphil> nice
[21:14] <jakesully123456> :P
[21:14] <fsphil> my second fav galaxy
[21:14] <jakesully123456> Your favourite is?
[21:15] <jakesully123456> Oh, I've just noticed. I'm jakesully123456 not jakeio!? What is this madness!?
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[21:15] <fsphil> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Messier51_sRGB.jpg/1280px-Messier51_sRGB.jpg
[21:15] <fsphil> technically, that's two
[21:16] <PE2BZ> That´s a nice HAB XL image ;-)
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[21:28] <SpeedEvil> hmm
[21:28] <SpeedEvil> http://www.tme.eu/gb/details/org4400-pm04/gsmgpsgprshspaedgelte-modules/origingps/org4400-pm04-tr/ - somehow I'd missed
[21:29] <SpeedEvil> 'Measuring only 4.1×4.1×2.1mm, the Spider is a fully integrated GPS module. Unlike GPS modules of similar size, it includes LNA, SAW Filter, TCXO and RTC crystal as well as a power management unit.
[21:33] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> only too 24Km says the spec sheet
[21:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-67 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-67
[21:35] <mfa298> jakeio: you could have probably have done /nick jakeio rather than logging out and back in, although that's possible more useful with a real client
[21:38] <jakeio> Oh yeah... Forgot about that...
[21:39] <Laurenceb__> Sirf also
[21:39] <Laurenceb__> so it should support the crazy low power modes
[21:39] <Laurenceb__> and quite good price
[21:39] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> but only 24Km or somsays spec.
[21:40] <Laurenceb__> fine for pico
[21:41] <SpeedEvil> yeah
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[22:12] <Laurenceb__> hyperloop track spec has been published
[22:12] <Laurenceb__> https://www.badgerloop.com/documents/TubeSpecs.pdf
[22:13] <Laurenceb__> its solid steel :S
[22:15] <Laurenceb__> this really doesnt look safe to me
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[22:20] <SpeedEvil> odd
[22:21] Action: SpeedEvil idly wonders if a d-sub-50 can support disconnects of 50A@240V@.125psi
[22:23] <Laurenceb__> Zoelli equation gives a safety factor of 800 or so for that tube
[22:23] <SpeedEvil> Also...
[22:23] <Laurenceb__> but it it gets a tiny dent its going to crumple
[22:24] <Laurenceb__> as crumpling is horribly nonlinear
[22:24] <SpeedEvil> Unless I'm confused, the vacuum pump they imply in 'if you use .125PSI, it may take 25 minutes to pump down, is considerably over 200kW
[22:24] <SpeedEvil> which is fun
[22:24] <Laurenceb__> yeah
[22:25] <Laurenceb__> just the price of the steel will make the tube cost more than off the shelf concrete sewer pipe rated to 2bar
[22:26] <Laurenceb__> one hit of the side of the tube with a sledgehammer and the riders are dead
[22:27] <SpeedEvil> It's not actually a transport system. He is going to build a larger system than this, and use it to conceal the construction and readying for launch a hundred massive rockets with which he will take over the world.
[22:27] <Laurenceb__> heh
[22:28] <Laurenceb__> lul 802.11g
[22:28] <Laurenceb__> There will be no DHCP or DNS servers
[22:29] <Laurenceb__> I do like the optical tape coding for position determination
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[23:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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