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[08:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2EAT-15 after 0311 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2EAT-15
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[09:32] <michemto> Hey
[09:32] <michemto> Any amateurs from Finland/Latvia/Lithuania here?
[09:34] <michemto> Could any of you guys (from anywhere) - take data from Finnish websdr (at GlobalTuners) and decode it and upload it to habhub?
[09:34] <michemto> There will be balloon transmitting at 434.450
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[10:06] <evilroots-KG7QEO> !aprs
[10:06] <SpacenearUS> 03evilroots-KG7QEO: Tracking via APRS: 03AD6AM-11 10(UBSEDS15), 03DK3SB-10, 03DK3SB-12, 03DK3SB-8, 03DL3AKB-11, 03DL7AD-11, 03K2JJI-11, 03KD5ZPL-11, 03KD9DBI-11, 03KG5KNM-11, 03KG7WFR-11, 03KI7CUX-11, 03KI7CUX-9 10(KI7CUX-11_chase), 03M0SBU-11 10(UBSEDS15), 03M0UPU-7, 03M0UPU-8, 03M0UPU-9, 03MIKEL, 03SM3ULC-9, 03SP3OSJ-12, 03VE3KCL-9, 03VK3YT-11, 03VK4BW-11, 03W7QO-7, 03WB8ELK-6
[10:07] <evilroots-KG7QEO> !tracker
[10:07] <SpacenearUS> 03evilroots-KG7QEO: Here you go - 12http://habhub.org/t/
[10:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ISCAPI - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ISCAPI
[10:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LCARS_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LCARS_chase
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[10:21] <samme> Hey. I cant seem to find the NTX2 module with voltage divider setting on the webpage. Can someone provide me the link, thanks.
[10:21] <craag> !wiki NTX2
[10:21] <SpacenearUS> 03craag: Wiki page 03ntx2_resistor_calculation - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/ntx2_resistor_calculation
[10:21] <SpacenearUS> 03craag: Wiki page 03linkingarduinotontx2 (guides) - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:linkingarduinotontx2
[10:21] <SpacenearUS> 03craag: Wiki page 03ntx2 (guides:radio_modules) - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:radio_modules:ntx2
[10:23] <mfa298> samme: it's one of the older revisions of the second link from the bot
[10:23] <craag> Yeah trying to find it now
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[10:23] <craag> https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:linkingarduinotontx2?rev=1399496254
[10:23] <craag> samme: Try that ^^
[10:24] <samme> THANKSSSSSSSSSSSSS :D wasnt able to find it :S
[10:25] <craag> btw all: I'm planning a latex pico launch tomorrow, from Epping Forest, RTTY, Flight path going NE and likely splashing down off Felixstowe. All other details unknown atm (choice of 2 payloads.)
[10:27] <edmoore> choice of two payloads
[10:27] <edmoore> sounds like a buffet
[10:28] <craag> would you like an A7 or an F0 with that edmoore ?
[10:29] <edmoore> why yes
[10:29] <edmoore> and some black magic pepper
[10:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03MORPH after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MORPH
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[10:55] <fsphil> M0RPH
[10:55] <fsphil> he only ever does morse
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[10:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VACRX65_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VACRX65_chase
[11:00] <michemto> VAC getting ready for launch in Pühajärve, Estonia
[11:00] <michemto> Any Latvian, Lithuanian, Finnish Amateurs - get your machines ready @ 434.450.
[11:01] <michemto> Flight name: VAC Frequency: 434.450 MHz RTTY, 50 baud rate, 600Hz shift (testing has proven this may vary a little), 7 bits per symbol (7-ASCII), without parity, one stop-bit.
[11:01] <fsphil> quite a wide shift
[11:03] <AndyEsser> michemto: have you announed on the mailing list?
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[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5ARG-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5ARG-1
[11:17] <Darkside> there we go
[11:17] <Darkside> right, baseline code is working
[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-12 after 039 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-12
[11:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[11:21] Action: es5nhc setting itself ready to listen at KO38FD
[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BALLON-11 after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLON-11
[11:22] <es5nhc> Any plans to add https support to tracker.habhub.org? Google Chrome is so paranoid now that it won't allow location services over HTTP, at least on mobile
[11:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VAC - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VAC
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[11:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VR2VQO-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VR2VQO-12
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[12:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WHS - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WHS
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[12:06] <pb0ahx> !flights
[12:06] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03ValveCUBE launch 10(6e10), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[12:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M10RS-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M10RS-11
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[12:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VALVE1_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VALVE1_chase
[12:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VAC_CAR_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VAC_CAR_chase
[12:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ESTCAM_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ESTCAM_chase
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[13:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03669NT after 0316 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=669NT
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[13:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W5LCY-7 after 035 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5LCY-7
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[13:14] <lz1dev> lol
[13:14] <lz1dev> did they land 669NT
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[13:24] <samme> Hello, when feeling out the CAA launch form for Research Balloon, under Instrumentation, do I need to mention all sensors?
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[13:24] <fsphil> nope
[13:24] <fsphil> filling, not feeling? :)
[13:25] <samme> hahahaha apologies, stressed -__-
[13:25] <samme> ya filling
[13:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TEST - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TEST
[13:25] <samme> fsphil: then just mention atmospheric sounding?
[13:26] <fsphil> I normally just give a brief description. camera, radio tracker
[13:28] <samme> fsphil: so sensors are in general is fine along with camera and radio tracker?
[13:28] <samme> one last question, maximum dimension of balloon, I haven
[13:29] <samme> haven't bought the balloon, all I know is that I may use 1200g balloon, different suppliers have different sizes
[13:35] <edmoore> just put 10m in
[13:35] <edmoore> close enough for jazz
[13:36] <samme> but it says length/width (diameter)*
[13:38] <edmoore> 15/10
[13:38] <edmoore> or just whatever it happens to be when you buy the balloon
[13:39] <samme> edmoore: but I am submitting the form prior to buying :/
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[13:39] <edmoore> put 20 length and 10 dia
[13:40] <edmoore> that'll be close enough
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[13:42] <daveake> They're really not going to care if it's a 1200 or 1600
[13:43] <samme> got it :) edmoore, daveake: thank you :D have a great day
[13:44] <edmoore> i always do, every day
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[14:19] <samme> Hey. any restriction to the payload box dimension? was referring to this https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:guidelines , my weight of the payload only will be around 1kg
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[14:22] <mfa298> the main advice would be keep it as light as possible and consider if you'd be happy with it coming down on your car/greenhouse/head without causing damaga
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[14:23] <samme> mfa298: but the length, breadth and height of the payload box? any restrictions on that?
[14:24] <mfa298> other than keep it sensible I dont think so
[14:24] <samme> 250mm x250mm x250mm size of the polystrene foam box
[14:26] <arjunnaha> What time after 10am would launch be best? Earliest possible or something else?
[14:30] <mfa298> samme: that would sound reasonable depending on what you'd flying.
[14:30] <craag> arjunnaha: predictions and hours of light left for recovery tend to be the 2 factors.
[14:31] <samme> mfa298: sensors, camera, radio tracker (for atmospheric sounding and imagery)
[14:31] <arjunnaha> I'm launching on the 18/19th, but predictions from Berkshire on the 15th are looking pretty miserable
[14:32] <mfa298> arjunnaha: they'll likely continue to change as you get closer to the planned day
[14:33] <arjunnaha> I sure hope so
[14:33] <arjunnaha> We've put off launch for a number of months now for various reasons
[14:37] <daveake> earlier in the day tends to have lower winds, but you need to check predictions closer to the time
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[14:54] <Laurenceb> does anyone know if its possible to intercept rfcomm traffic under linux?
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[15:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03YO3FVR-10_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YO3FVR-10_chase
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[15:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WIDE2-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WIDE2-1
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[16:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EOS_T2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EOS_T2
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[16:55] <ryan_____> how do you update the PITS board
[16:57] <daveake> Read the instructions (last para of http://www.pi-in-the-sky.com/index.php?id=sd-card-image-from-scratch)
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[17:21] <AndyEsser> https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11/issues/3
[17:21] <AndyEsser> I love nerds
[17:22] <edmoore> I love them the first 27 times they post that link in one day
[17:22] <edmoore> less so after that
[17:24] <AndyEsser> Apologies, I've not been auditing the channel today or your social feeds to check that you hadn't seen it
[17:24] <PE2BZ> I am almost ready to commit an answer ;-)
[17:26] <edmoore> well i'll give you a hint
[17:27] <edmoore> if it's 5pm and been all over the internet then yes probably
[17:27] <edmoore> likewise for future reference, any landing of a SpaceX thing on a barge will likely have been posted here 427 times
[17:27] <adamgreig> it was almost news yesterday
[17:27] <adamgreig> you need to get in at T0 for these things really :P
[17:27] <edmoore> exactly
[17:28] <AndyEsser> fine
[17:28] <edmoore> spreading the joy on a friday evening as ever :D
[17:28] <edmoore> had I not already seen it AndyEsser, I'd have chuckled
[17:28] <edmoore> so thank you
[17:28] <adamgreig> 2016-07-07T19:16:19+0100 adamgreig> lol, https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11
[17:29] <AndyEsser> adamgreig: I'll make sure to grep the logs before saying anything in future
[17:29] <adamgreig> ;)
[17:29] <adamgreig> it's the only way to be sure
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[17:29] <edmoore> we should run this place like the openBSD misc mailing list
[17:30] <edmoore> 'This question was answered in 2006 already!!!! Why are you wasting our time with this !?!?'
[17:30] <lz1dev> <line paste from when i linked it first>
[17:30] <mfa298> ... and it's still broken 10 years later
[17:30] <adamgreig> 2016-07-07T20:05:06+0100 lz1dev> https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11/issues/3
[17:31] <adamgreig> what's that lz1dev, you were 45 minutes after me? :P
[17:31] <edmoore> openBSD are quite good at not having stuff broken, I've noticed
[17:31] Action: mfa298 hasn't had such good experiences with OpenBSD
[17:31] <lz1dev> ¯\_(Ä)_/¯
[17:31] <edmoore> in as much as stuff gets fixed if found
[17:31] <adamgreig> neither of those were from this channel though lol
[17:31] <edmoore> and something put in the man page
[17:31] <lz1dev> <line paste from when i linked it first from some other channel>
[17:32] <lz1dev> dominance restablished
[17:32] <adamgreig> but AndyEsser posted it first here actually
[17:32] <adamgreig> at midnight
[17:32] <adamgreig> today
[17:32] <edmoore> we had a win with $CUSTOMER yesterday. A quick script we did for one person there suddenly started getting support requests from multiple other people in their company, so we put our foot down and said if it's going to be A Thing then we get 10 paid days to write docs and tests before we carry on with new features
[17:32] <edmoore> and they agreed!
[17:33] <adamgreig> wow, nice
[17:33] <edmoore> just have to say 'configuration control... auditing... ISO9thousalablah' enough times
[17:33] <adamgreig> agreeing to pay for tests and docs, amazing
[17:33] <edmoore> yep
[17:34] <mfa298> my openBSD issues were more features (or lack of) rather than bugs, might be good for a small business, but if you need to push gigabits of data it couldn't cope.
[17:39] <edmoore> that is a trade off of their schtick
[17:39] <edmoore> do it right or don't do it at all
[17:39] <edmoore> means a fair bit isn't done
[17:41] <edmoore> google has helpfully suggested that a place in Oxford that might buy a second hand 80mm lens from me is 'Radcliffe Camera'
[17:41] <edmoore> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radcliffe_Camera
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[17:42] <russss> lol
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[18:16] <miek> wg 57
[18:16] <miek> doh
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[18:23] <Hola> Hello :-)
[18:25] <PE2BZ> Hola ;-)
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[18:29] <Hola> I need help. I'm trying to set the arduino to transmit RTTY and use the Ublox.... Have read the guides available on the itnernet and test all of them independently.. However now tthat I'm done with that, I'm stuck :(
[18:30] <mfa298> if you've got data coming in from the GPS module, the next bit would be to get that into a sendable string.
[18:31] <mfa298> then you can use that string with the routines you've presumably got for sending the rtty
[18:31] <mfa298> hopefully if you understand what the bits you've found online are doing that bit of glue in the middle shouldn't be too hard
[18:33] <Hola> Any idea where I could check this out?
[18:33] <Hola> An example
[18:34] <mfa298> it's going to depend a bit on what your current code looks like
[18:34] <Hola> I'm checking the guided on http://ava.upuaut.net/?p=768
[18:34] <Hola> Guide*
[18:34] <mfa298> but snprintf and strncat are likely the things to look at for building up the string to send
[18:40] <mfa298> as a first step after that guide maybe see if you can get a variable with time,latitude,longitude,altitude in it that you can print out.
[18:40] <mfa298> Then build it up to a longer string suitable for transmission
[18:41] <mfa298> then you just need to pass it to the rtty generation code
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[19:12] <adamgreig> talking of string formatting, https://www.dropbox.com/sc/w20mod6uanxqfe9/AAAVCnTIZaXqKnxaEzJvFJ6Xa
[19:12] <adamgreig> how does this shit get released
[19:13] <adamgreig> did someone not even bother with a static analysis sweep
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[19:15] <arko> lol
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[19:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03669NT after 036 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=669NT
[19:46] <SM0ULC-Reb> adamgreig: :)
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[21:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03S13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S13
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[21:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03S11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S11
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[22:06] <Oddstr13> adamgreig: "wana toilet? noooope, ahahaha"
[22:06] <Oddstr13> I was fighting with one of those a while back
[22:07] <Oddstr13> ended up using the handicap toilet instead.
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[22:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WO9N-7 after 0312 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WO9N-7
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[22:54] <sirus> Hey guys! My project is now public and some footage of my earlier test launch is up: https://duo.com/in-space
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[23:26] <edmoore> sirus: so the smartphone is connected to the net via satellite?
[23:28] <sirus> Iridium phone -> RS232 -> raspi with vwdial -> WLAN -> android phone
[23:28] <edmoore> what sort of bandwidth does that get?
[23:29] <sirus> absolute garbage
[23:29] <sirus> ~0.5 - 1kb/s
[23:29] <adamgreig> sirus: do you have any details on the balloon and payload?
[23:29] <edmoore> lol
[23:29] <edmoore> but enough
[23:29] <adamgreig> cor
[23:29] <sirus> yeah just need to do some SSL things up there
[23:29] <adamgreig> you can buy iridium units that spit out wifi
[23:29] <adamgreig> and get really quite decent throughput
[23:30] <sirus> test flight was with a HAB2000 from kaymont
[23:30] <adamgreig> quite tempting for camping and stuff really
[23:30] <adamgreig> have you run a flight prediction?
[23:30] <sirus> adamgreig: I looked in to those actually, but you have to use their software stack to do compression and I needed actual TCP to work
[23:30] <SpeedEvil> adamgreig: if $ is not an option
[23:30] <adamgreig> huh, I thought the wifi they spit out is just normal internet
[23:30] <sirus> adamgreig: We did a test flight and was tracked here as K7SDV :)
[23:31] <adamgreig> cool
[23:31] <adamgreig> just, I can see all the prediction requests, so I should probably refrain from entering your competition ;)
[23:31] <edmoore> yes
[23:31] <edmoore> also
[23:31] <sirus> That was all the test payload the one we're launching from DEFCON is still being built so the weights will be different :P
[23:31] <edmoore> a plea
[23:31] <sirus> but feel free to enter!
[23:31] <edmoore> it's not going to space
[23:32] <sirus> near space yes
[23:32] <adamgreig> edmoore: at this point I think you'd have better luck convincing the space authorities to change the karman to 25km or so
[23:32] <edmoore> mmm but the website says space in the url and the prose and the hashtag
[23:32] <edmoore> and that's tiresome
[23:32] <adamgreig> +line
[23:32] <sirus> marketing is gonna market
[23:32] <edmoore> marketing nuremburg defence
[23:32] <edmoore> i like it
[23:33] <edmoore> by which i of course mean, i don't like it, it's abyssmal
[23:34] <edmoore> but i guess it's not your decision
[23:34] <sirus> I've been plenty thrilled that work is paying me to do this so...
[23:35] <edmoore> adamgreig: perhaps we should rename it the Maker Line
[23:36] <edmoore> an ersatz version of science with little time for facts or history
[23:36] <edmoore> very maker
[23:36] <adamgreig> haha
[23:36] <adamgreig> nice
[23:37] <adamgreig> we already have the Coxon Kilometre
[23:37] <adamgreig> perhaps just repurpose a bit
[23:38] <edmoore> to the glossary
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[23:52] <Laurenceb__> Karman line is fun as its challenging
[23:52] <Laurenceb__> thats also why its annoying
[23:56] <Laurenceb__> Transformation of the university examination timetabling problem space through data pre-processing. PhD thesis
[23:56] <Laurenceb__> lul
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