highaltitude.log.20160703

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[01:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Vk5NRG_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Vk5NRG_chase
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[06:55] <evilroots-KG7QEO> why is there no USA tracker?
[06:58] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> saq 17.2 on air in a moment http://alexander.n.se/alexanderson-day-july-3rd-2016-schedule/?lang=en
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[07:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NSR-L after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NSR-L
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[08:41] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> SAQ starts now
[08:44] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> VVV VVV DE SAQ SAQ SAQ VVV VVV
[08:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CHAS - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHAS
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[08:55] <g8fjg_Ron> Heard SAQ +20 over noise 17.2Khz
[08:55] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> nicw
[08:55] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> nice
[08:56] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> , I?m just 170km away so its booming in here, just a short wire laying on the lawn
[08:56] <g8fjg_Ron> 130' long wire
[08:57] <g8fjg_Ron> NSR 434.298800
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[09:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car track_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car%20track_chase
[09:02] <PE2BZ> !flights
[09:02] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03ARY-2 10(bace), 03Luna 10(36a7)
[09:02] <PE2BZ> !payload Luna
[09:02] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03Luna 10(36a7) 03$$NSR-L - 03Primary - 03434.3 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/300Hz ASCII-7 none 2
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[09:06] <PA0RPA> an we receive NSR-L on the same frequency and conditions as is was announced yesterday /
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[09:07] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> [10:57:22] <g8fjg_Ron> NSR 434.298800
[09:07] <PE2BZ> !dial luna
[09:07] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03Luna 10(36a7): 03434.2988 MHz, 434.3 MHz, 434.2978 MHz, 434.298863 MHz
[09:07] <PE2BZ> PA0RPA I don´t know the announcement for yesterday but it seem to be around 434.300
[09:09] <PA0RPA> Thanks Ben, I wil listenthere.
[09:11] <PE2BZ> I ´ll let you know if I receive something.
[09:11] <AndyEsser> !dial NSR-L
[09:11] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Latest dials for 03Luna 10(36a7): 03434.2988 MHz, 434.3 MHz, 434.2978 MHz, 434.298863 MHz
[09:14] <AndyEsser> no sign of NSR-L here
[09:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AVA - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AVA
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[09:26] <AndyEsser> I'm now wondering if my antenna isn't plugged in properly...
[09:26] <AndyEsser> ha
[09:27] <evilroots-KG7QEO> EMERGENGCY LIGHTNING SHUTDOWN DETECTED CLOSE LIGHTING STIKES LESS THAN 1 MILES
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[09:30] <PE2BZ> First signal at 434.298
[09:35] <PE2BZ> First green.
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[09:37] <PE2BZ> $$NSR-L,189,09:36:37,523666047,-8559890,13210,8,1,6*75BB
[09:37] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/OT0HPGl
[09:37] <AndyEsser> :(
[09:37] <PE2BZ> Somehow a strange GPS format for me.
[09:38] <g8fjg_Ron> same here Ben
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[09:39] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser don´t worry. The Diamonds have a hole in their reception on certain heights. It´s what you notice when receiving NOAA also, Certain elevations are worse while distance to sat is closer.
[09:39] <fsphil> looks like raw ubx coordinates
[09:40] <PE2BZ> PA0ARA Rob I have signal on 434.298
[09:40] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: yea, it's just... the worst it's been :(
[09:40] <PE1ANS_> Mogge Ben,, ben ook qrv de NL side
[09:40] <AndyEsser> have seen absolutely nothing since launch, will keep an eye on it
[09:40] <AndyEsser> just concerned I might've damaged the antenna, or have a loose connection when I was mounting it yesterday
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[09:41] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser can you check 70 cm repeaters, CW beacons, or 446 MHz PMR band ?
[09:41] <g8fjg_Ron> AndyEsser : that spectrum scan seems very empty
[09:45] <AndyEsser> g8fjg_Ron: yea, ordinarily 434 has been flooded with broadband interference every few seconds
[09:46] <AndyEsser> o0o I think I might know
[09:47] <daveake> not plugged in ? :)
[09:47] <AndyEsser> I'm such a dick...
[09:47] <AndyEsser> forgot that to get any good signals with my laptop, I whacked the RF gain up
[09:47] <AndyEsser> am no longer using my laptop...
[09:48] <dbrooke> How many HAB points for landing at Elsworth?
[09:48] <g8fjg_Ron> AndyEsser like this http://i.imgur.com/NfajZn4.jpg
[09:48] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/cXHVyUD
[09:48] <AndyEsser> much better
[09:49] <g8fjg_Ron> phew no climbing up that ladder
[09:49] <PE2BZ> :-))
[09:51] Action: AndyEsser is a muppet
[09:51] <AndyEsser> :P
[09:51] <AndyEsser> although, now to find it :P
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[09:53] <daveake> Seems to be aimed at Steve's site :)
[09:53] <daveake> Many HAB points for that one
[09:54] <garymortimer> Yes its going to ne pretty close
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[10:14] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB-10 after 0312 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-10
[10:24] <AndyEsser> ok, note to self... actually physically going up to my PC allows much easier finding of the signal :P
[10:24] <AndyEsser> should just stop being lazy with VNC...
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[10:54] <garymortimer> If NSR ends up on Little Staunton the entrance is from the West
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[11:40] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> saq warmup starts again...
[11:42] <g8fjg> still +20 over noise
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[11:43] <g8fjg> there is a lot more lightning now
[11:45] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> neighbors Bosch lawnmover is out, it totaly whipes the hf but I get it just between the noise
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[11:45] <SP9UOB-Tom> afternoon All
[11:45] <SP9UOB-Tom> !hysplit SP9UOB-10
[11:45] <SpacenearUS> 03SP9UOB-Tom: HYSPLIT for 03SP9UOB-10 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/160703-10_11078_SP9UOB10.gif
[11:45] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> nice seeing your tracker over canada
[11:48] <SP9UOB-Tom> SA6BSS-Mike|2: :-) over US :-)
[11:49] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> yep, right, comming up on Nova Scotia
[11:50] Nick change: SA6BSS-Mike|2 -> SA6BSS-Mike
[11:52] <g8fjg> strikes peaking at nearly 600 a minute over europe
[11:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> grimeton live feed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an2zV09UtMY
[11:53] <fsphil> oh wow, http://en.blitzortung.org/live_lightning_maps.php?map=10
[11:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> Allways liked lightening until I got my radios and antennas, now it not that fun anymore :)
[11:54] <fsphil> I really love it
[11:54] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike Impressive machine !
[11:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> its huge, and then there is its antenna, massive!!!
[11:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0HIP-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
[11:58] <AndyEsser> my PC sounds like a gieger counter...
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[11:59] <fsphil> I'm hoping to go on holiday sometime, to somewhere with lots of lightning
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[12:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> using dl-fldigi doing somw cw decoding CQ CQ DE SAQ SAQ SAQ <BT> THIS IS GRIMETON RADIO/SAQ IN A TRANSMISSION USING THE ALEXANNERSON 200 KW ALTERNATOR ON 17.2 KHZ . <BT> IT IS NOW 20 II 2 T YEARS SINCE THE ALEXANDER ASSOCIATION STARTED , THEN MOSTLY WITH MEMBERS OF EARLIER AND *ESENT E*LOYEES AT GRIMETON RADIO/SAQ . WE ARE NOW 650 IE 65T MEMBERS AND O R THEM 26 II 26 NONE SWEDISH . THE STATION I
[12:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> THE STATION IS NOWADAYS MANAGED BY GRIMETON WORLD HERITAGE FOUNDATION . SIGNED : WORLD HERITAGE GRIMETON RADIO STATION AND THE ALEXANDER-GRIMETON VETERANRADIOS VAENNER ASSOCIATION <AR> <BT> FOR QSL INFO PLEASE READ OUR WEBSITE : WWW.A<AS>XANDER.N.SE II WWW.ALEXANDER.N.SE <BT> DE SAQ SAQ SAQ <SK>
[12:09] <adamgreig> nice :
[12:09] <adamgreig> :) *
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[12:09] <adamgreig> none of my SDRs go down to 17kHz but perhaps I can just plug a long wire into my sound card :P
[12:09] <PE2BZ> Decoded from the youtube stream ? Or do you have RX ?
[12:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> rx:d directly using sdrplay and wet nudle in the lawn
[12:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> I?m fairly close 170km
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[12:38] <fsphil> my lightning vlf receiver could probably do it, but I'm quite far away
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[12:40] <SA6BSS-Mike> g8fjg reported +20 over noise
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[12:41] <fsphil> what time is this running to?
[12:42] <fsphil> if there's time i might try the vlf board
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[12:45] <JC___> Hello
[12:45] <fsphil> hi
[12:46] <JC___> I was wondering if anyone could help me with http://predict.habhub.org/
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[12:47] <JC___> Where it says 'launch altitude' - does that mean height above sea level, or height above ground at those coordinates?
[12:47] <fsphil> sea level
[12:47] <fsphil> all altitudes it uses are
[12:48] <JC___> Thanks
[12:48] <fsphil> which can play tricks on your if you land somewhere very high up
[12:48] <AndyEsser> about to attempt another NOAA image :)
[12:49] <fsphil> AndyEsser: what frequency? might have a listen myself
[12:49] <AndyEsser> 137.100
[12:49] <AndyEsser> 34kHZ WFM
[12:50] <JC___> I'm also not too sure about what to enter in the 'descent rate' box. Any tips?
[12:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> fsphil: its stoped tx ing
[12:50] <fsphil> SA6BSS-Mike: hah, oops
[12:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> its only on for 2x 40min a year
[12:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> next tx will be christmas day
[12:51] <AndyEsser> note to self... remember to set wxtoimg to use the correct audio input device *sigh*
[12:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> 2x40 two days a year a mrong tx and a midday tx firs sunday july and cristmas day
[12:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> *morning
[12:53] <fsphil> JC___: "depends". most people aim for a 5m/s descent rate, but your actual rate will depend on your chute, payload weight, and other things
[12:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> running airspy and spyverter, why does i look like thishttp://www.qsl.net/sa6bss/
[12:53] <fsphil> my airspy has decided not to work on my desktop pc again
[12:53] <daveake> at all?
[12:54] <fsphil> airspy_info is detecting it, gqrx lists it but not getting any signal or data
[12:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> should look like this https://www.dropbox.com/s/0onk1v5zltmwlsw/argo22822.jpg?dl=0
[12:54] <daveake> any chance it's got the wrong usb driver?
[12:54] <AndyEsser> it would appear that the location of my antenna now isn't great for this NOAA pass :(
[12:54] <daveake> Worth checking with zadig
[12:55] <daveake> oh you're Linux not Windows?
[12:55] <fsphil> yeah
[12:55] <daveake> if so I have no idea :)
[12:55] <fsphil> usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usbfs while 'gqrx' sets config #1
[12:55] <fsphil> no idea if this is even an error
[12:56] <JC___> If I use 5 m/s, it looks OK to launch, but 3 m/s and it lands in the sea!
[12:56] <fsphil> ah it's working now
[12:56] <fsphil> *shrugs*
[12:56] <daveake> 5m/s is the usual speed to aim for anyway
[12:57] <daveake> woo
[12:57] <SA6BSS-Mike> must be something wrong with the spyverter, airspy for it self works great
[12:58] <SA6BSS-Mike> its like the oscilator in the spyverter does not lock
[12:58] <JC___> We've got a 600 g payload on a 50 inch chute. What do you reckon? My thinking is that it's not an unusual mass/diameter, so probs be ok assuming 5 m/s
[12:58] <JC___> Or is that silly?
[12:58] <daveake> Waaaay too large a chute
[12:58] <SA6BSS-Mike> https://www.dropbox.com/s/g9oehn0to3u2xr9/2016-07-03%2014_58_30-WSJT-X%20-%2010%20-%20Wide%20Graph.jpg?dl=0
[12:59] <daveake> Did you just guess at 50 or try to calculate the size you need first?
[13:00] <daveake> Off the top of my head, 50 is about right for a 3kg payload
[13:00] <JC___> We are amateurs (first launch) and bought this chute: http://sentintospace.com/products-page/flight-components/parachute/#ad-image-0
[13:02] <daveake> Did they (sentintospace) provide any information as to its suitablility?
[13:02] <JC___> No. It has been an oversight
[13:02] <fsphil> that is huge
[13:02] <daveake> Well I suggest you use a supplier who does
[13:02] <daveake> http://randomsolutions.co.uk/Random_Aerospace/Parachutes.html
[13:02] <daveake> You'll see a calculator at the bottom of that page
[13:03] <daveake> and if you use it, you'll find that you need a 30" chute
[13:03] <fsphil> heh, that calculator isn't displaying correctly here
[13:03] <JC___> Thanks daveake!
[13:04] <JC___> Might have to adapt our current chute to make it smaller, perhaps some duct tape
[13:05] <adamgreig> hah
[13:05] <adamgreig> cinch it shut
[13:05] <adamgreig> kind of gross :P
[13:05] <fsphil> AndyEsser: got nothing
[13:06] <fsphil> though by the time I got gqrx working it was very low
[13:06] <fsphil> the next pass looks better
[13:07] <AndyEsser> fsphil: yea, I got appalling results on this one
[13:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IV3SRD-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[13:07] <AndyEsser> didn't help that I had wxtoimg configured wrong to start with
[13:07] <AndyEsser> next one is only 1.5 hours away
[13:07] <JC___> OK, another question if people don't mind. Has anyone just 'not had a response' from the CAA regarding an application?
[13:07] <fsphil> JC___: oh yes :)
[13:08] <fsphil> they are quite well known for giving people the silent treatment
[13:08] <JC___> Mmm... makes me very nervous. What do you recommend? Ringing?
[13:08] <fsphil> up until days before, sometimes needing a polite poke
[13:08] <fsphil> or in one of my causes, a few days after the target date
[13:08] <fsphil> cases*
[13:08] <adamgreig> they will usually reply the day or two before
[13:08] <adamgreig> not usually earlier than that
[13:09] <fsphil> I wouldn't worry until T-2 days, then send them a reminder
[13:09] <JC___> I rang them after about 5 days before the 28, and they said they were 'busy'! I'm now on day 30
[13:09] <adamgreig> what date is on your form?
[13:09] <adamgreig> it's more about days til launch than days since application
[13:09] <adamgreig> they are very very busy people and prioritise the stuff happening soon
[13:09] <JC___> A two-week window from 01 Jul
[13:10] <adamgreig> ah, if they are already into the window then that's a slightly different matter, though two weeks is pretty long
[13:10] <JC___> When I rang they said two weeks would be OK
[13:11] <JC___> But still, I want to ring, just don't want to be a pest
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[13:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W5LCY-7 after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5LCY-7
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[13:52] <daveake> JC___: With a 2-week window you've potentially got 2 weeks of pilots rining up to ask exactly when you're launching your balloon
[13:53] <daveake> One of the reasons I just request a single day, or sometimes ask for 2-3 days but then narrow it down with an email 2-3 days before the window starts
[13:54] <JC___> I don't know how the process works as it's the first time i've done it. When I rang though, they said it's fine to have a 2 week window on the application
[13:54] <daveake> And I always send an email remind 2-3 days prior anyway, if only to confirm (and make sure my application doesn't get forgotten)
[13:55] <daveake> Depends where you are relative to airports and flight paths
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[13:57] <JC___> I thought that it was the launchers responsibility to contact the CAA when about to launch, rather than having a constant barrage of pilots ringing the CAA to ask if they've heard anything. The CAA then issue a 'notice to airmen' - which i presume is a sort of broadcast to all
[13:58] <daveake> I mean the pilots will call *you*
[13:58] <JC___> Oh!
[13:59] <daveake> They'll see the NOTAM, think to themselves "dammit that's going to cost me any extra £20 in fuel and 15 minutes in flight time", and will call to ask exactly when you'll be launching
[14:00] <daveake> of course you won't know the exact time (launches usually run late) but you may well be able to help them with "oh, not launching to midday or later" or "not today at alL"
[14:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> daveake: according to air law - the ballon always has priority ;-)
[14:01] <daveake> ofc but it helps to be helpful
[14:01] <daveake> don't want pilots complaining about damn silly balloon notams when they think they own the skies :p
[14:01] <AndyEsser> SP9UOB-Tom: in the same way that wind powered vessles have priority over powered boats?
[14:01] <AndyEsser> but I'm not going to mess with an oil tanker when I'm in my Pico
[14:01] <daveake> Plus, it's always fun when they ask how high it's going
[14:02] <JC___> I tried ringing the CAA but I get a 'sorry we're busy at the moment, leave a message'
[14:02] <daveake> "about 120,000 feet"
[14:02] <SIbot> In real units: 120,000 ft = 36.6 km
[14:02] <daveake> <silence for a minute>
[14:02] <AndyEsser> daveake: ha yea
[14:02] <AndyEsser> can imagine
[14:02] <daveake> My last call asked if it was going towards Abergavenny
[14:02] <SP9UOB-Tom> AndyEsser: yes, priority is Balloons, Gliders, powered aircrafts
[14:02] <daveake> "Yes but it'll be at 120,000 feet when it gets there"
[14:02] <SIbot> In real units: 120,000 ft = 36.6 km
[14:02] <daveake> "oh"
[14:03] <daveake> p.s. always give them feet they don't do metres
[14:03] <fsphil> primatives
[14:03] <AndyEsser> SIbot needs to hook into the phone network :)
[14:03] <fsphil> they probably don't even use linux
[14:03] <PE2BZ> lol
[14:03] <AndyEsser> fsphil: next NOAA 19 pass is 14:29 UTC
[14:04] <AndyEsser> that fact it's the same satellite passing again suggests it was very North
[14:04] <fsphil> hmm I was about to go out, but can delay
[14:04] <daveake> JC___: Whereabouts are you, roughly?
[14:04] <JC___> Skipton, North Yorkshire
[14:04] <AndyEsser> Yorkshire!
[14:04] <AndyEsser> lovely part of the world
[14:04] <JC___> Ey up
[14:04] <AndyEsser> They do talk a bit funny like though
[14:04] <AndyEsser> :P
[14:04] <fsphil> lost a payload there
[14:05] <AndyEsser> fsphil: s/lost/left as a surprise for ramblers
[14:05] <daveake> This morning, predictions for my next flight (Wednesday, all being well) had it landed in the stone circle at Avebury
[14:06] <daveake> Sadly it's changed now
[14:06] <JC___> Ha
[14:06] <fsphil> I still hope to get a call about it
[14:07] <fsphil> my number is on the side
[14:09] <JC___> daveake: do you think it's better to leave a message or keep ringing back?
[14:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP3MCY_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP3MCY_chase
[14:09] <daveake> I've rarely called - email works fine
[14:10] <daveake> Like I said, I put in the application, confirm/change/cancel 2-3 days prior to the launch day, then leave it. 100% success rate so far :)
[14:10] <daveake> Remember they do get pretty busy in the summer months with airshows etc
[14:11] <JC___> daveake: it's just that we're now in the window we applied for, and I did ring them a few days before, but now they've not got back
[14:11] <daveake> call them tomorrow morning then
[14:12] <JC___> do you know if they're less busy at night? - could call them tonight perhaps
[14:13] <daveake> They work office hours
[14:14] <JC___> Great
[14:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CT1EUS-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CT1EUS-11
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[14:37] <AndyEsser> I really need to build myself a better antenna for these NOAA satellites :(
[14:38] <SpeedEvil> I recommend a 500km length of coax, with a nice plug on the end.
[14:38] <AndyEsser> heh
[14:44] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/TZF9Qrd
[14:44] <AndyEsser> well that was disappointing :(
[14:45] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[16:44] <samme> Hi. I would like to know if there is a specific pattern for transmitting data like time,latitude, longitude, altitude?
[16:45] <samme> RTTY dl-fldigi
[16:46] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> https://ukhas.org.uk/communication:protocol?s[]=ukhas&s[]=protocol
[16:47] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> you can however configure Habitat to recognise almost whatever you like
[16:48] <mfa298> the key bits are "$$CALLSIGN,...*checksum". you can have whatever fields you want in the middle
[16:51] Nick change: mattbrej1a -> mattbrejza
[16:54] <samme> callsign is assigned by?
[16:57] <mfa298> you can choose it yourself, athough you might want to check it's not been used previosuly
[16:58] <mfa298> that assumes you're doign this somewhere that 434MHz is an ISM band and your working on those rules
[16:59] <samme> didnt get the last part :/
[17:01] <mfa298> 434MHz isn't an ISM band in some of the world, but it is an Amateur Radio band so people in those locations run under an AR license which requires the callsign to be their licensed callsign.
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[17:01] <mfa298> assuming your UK then it's ISM so you can choose your own, (although recommended not to make it look like a AR call sign)
[17:02] <samme> yes in UK, how to make sure it doesnt look lik AR callsign?
[17:03] <mfa298> chances are what you choose will be fine
[17:03] <samme> got it. thanks !
[17:04] <samme> one other question, is patch antenna good or one with SMA GPS antenna?
[17:05] <samme> for GPS module
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[17:09] <adamgreig> whatever is probably fine, be sure to get a gps module that works at high altitude
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[17:11] <samme> adamgreig: so you mean patch antenna placed in the middle of the payload box wont have issues with getting data?
[17:12] <adamgreig> well if your payload box is made of metal then sure it will have problems...
[17:12] <adamgreig> but that would be the case for any antenna
[17:12] <adamgreig> a patch on the top, or a helical antenna sticking out, or a box made of foam with whatever inside, should all be ok
[17:12] <adamgreig> don't do something stupid like put the antenna upside down or surround it in metal
[17:14] <samme> http://www.dx.com/p/crius-cl-06-u-blox-lea-6h-gps-receiver-module-w-omni-directional-helical-antenna-green-184618#.V3lH4UYrLIU
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[17:15] <samme> I have a similar module, but wont be able to move it to the top of the payload box
[17:15] <samme> or somewhere in the middle of the box would still be okay?
[17:16] <JC___> Hello! Quick question. I'm looking at the parachute calculator on http://randomsolutions.co.uk/Random_Aerospace/Parachutes.html and was wondering: how is a parachute actually measured? E.g. is it simply the diameter of the opening?
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[17:19] <daveake> That calculator is for specific parachutes, so it depends on how the manufacturer measures them. For the Spherachutes it's half the circumference.
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[17:38] <JC___> Mmm... in that case, I don't suppose anyone knows where I can find the formula that is used by the calculator on http://randomsolutions.co.uk/Random_Aerospace/Parachutes.html ?
[17:41] <JC___> The website I bought my chute from says it's 50 inch, but I've just measured the diameter now as 28 inch (70 cm), and this online calc (http://descentratecalculator.onlinetesting.net/) gives a descent rate of 5.6 m/s, so seems OK
[17:41] <PE2BZ> I guess it´s this part of the source from that same page:
[17:41] <PE2BZ> function rate(form)
[17:41] <PE2BZ> {
[17:41] <PE2BZ> var ca = form.CdA.value;
[17:41] <PE2BZ> var pw = parseFloat(form.PayloadWeight.value, 10);
[17:41] <PE2BZ> var g = 9.81; // acceleration due to gravety
[17:41] <PE2BZ> var rho = 1.21; // sea level air density (Kg/cu m)
[17:41] <PE2BZ> var r = 0;
[17:41] <PE2BZ> // calculate descent rate
[17:41] <PE2BZ> r = Math.sqrt((pw * g) / (0.5 * rho * ca));
[17:41] <PE2BZ> form.Rate.value = r.toPrecision(3);
[17:41] <PE2BZ> }
[17:54] <daveake> You need the CdA value for your chute. I suggest you ask your supplier.
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[20:16] <SA6BSS-Mike> red pitaya boxed up, nice http://store.redpitaya.com/
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[20:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CHANGEME - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHANGEME
[20:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DK6GB _chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DK6GB%20_chase
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[20:33] <Seckel2> Hi is the "uBLOX MAX-M8C Pico Breakout with Chip Antenna" compatible with Arduino? I'm struggling to find suitable documentation
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[20:39] <mfa298> Seckel: depends on which arduino you have, most of the breakouts are for 3v3 logic, whereas most arduinos are 5v logic.
[20:39] <richardeoin> Could anyone give me some advice on focusing a raspberry pi camera to infinity?
[20:40] <richardeoin> I understand turning the tiny lens is a bit tricky
[20:40] <Seckel> mfa298 I'm using an arduino uno, would this be suitable?
[20:40] <mfa298> there are some arduinos with 3v3 logic, or there's a breakout with level convertors thats suitable for 5v arduinos
[20:40] <richardeoin> daveakeL you might know?
[20:41] <mfa298> richardeoin: they're supposed to be set to infinity be default (unless they did something different with the new ones)
[20:42] <richardeoin> hmm, I don't think this one is
[20:42] <richardeoin> http://ssdv.habhub.org
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[20:48] <mfa298> with the 5MP cameras I've used previously there was a bit of glue on the lens holding it in place, but once that was broken they weren't hard to rotate, although needed something fine to do it with
[20:48] <Seckel> Would a cheap level converter like this be suitable? goo.gl/LI9HyX
[20:49] <Seckel> I don't really have any knowledge of these things
[20:50] <richardeoin> mfa298: yes it has very fine indents for gripping it
[20:50] <richardeoin> might try to make a jig to grip it with
[20:50] <daveake> The Sony ones are (or used to be) set a lot closer
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[20:51] <daveake> Thre's a thread on the Pi forums that says how to focus them
[20:51] <mfa298> Seckel: this one can have a level convertor on the board https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=60_64&product_id=83
[20:51] <daveake> You need something that will get agood grip on the otating part - enough to break the seal (they are glued) - then it's easy
[20:51] <mfa298> Seckel: I don't know arduinos so I don't know if yours is 5v or 3v3
[20:52] <Seckel> mfa298 mine is 5v and we've already bought the module I linked originally
[20:52] <RPF-JR> Anyone about able to help with an fldigi decode issue
[20:53] <RPF-JR> Images show WF from both a yupiteru and airspy (via csdr) http://imgur.com/a/7xJF2
[20:53] <richardeoin> I've got some snipe-nosed pliers, but they still look to big to grip on
[20:53] <RPF-JR> the airspy data seems weaker and also narrower
[20:54] <daveake> Looks poor - what does it sound like ?
[20:55] <mfa298> I've only used the 5MP cameras, and whilst they all seemed to be slighlty different in terms of how the focus was set
[20:56] <RPF-JR> daveake: recordings here https://twitter.com/LegoJames/status/749517937933971456
[20:56] <richardeoin> is it advisable to glue it back once set correctly?
[20:57] <mfa298> RPF-JR: it might help to turn off the SQL button (bottom right) - although that won't help with signal strength.
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[20:59] <RPF-JR> mfa298: no real difference
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[21:00] <RPF-JR> Setup as RTTY 300/600 which works for yupiteru but airspy signal is narrower
[21:03] <richardeoin> Step 4 of this page is a useful guide to focusing
[21:03] <richardeoin> https://www.raspberrypi.org/learning/infrared-bird-box/worksheet/
[21:04] <RPF-JR> richardeoin: Have done that recently, make sure to use a sharp scapel :-)
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[21:16] <SpeedEvil> To trim the birds to fit?
[21:17] <SpeedEvil> Also, more seriously, you can also not do that, and instead buy some 1 pound reading glasses
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[21:48] <mfa298> RPF-JR: were both of those from the airspy+csdr setup ?
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[23:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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