highaltitude.log.20160702

[00:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7
[00:14] <evilroots-KG7QEO> !flights
[00:14] <SpacenearUS> 03evilroots-KG7QEO: Current flights: 03ARY-2 10(bace), 03Luna 10(36a7)
[00:14] <evilroots-KG7QEO> michal_f_work, Youyr flight now shows
[00:14] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Do you guys need more recivers?
[00:15] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Looking aty that habhub
[00:15] <evilroots-KG7QEO> What freq?
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[05:42] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Do you guys need more recivers?
[05:42] <evilroots-KG7QEO> What freq?
[05:46] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2EAT-14 after 039 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2EAT-14
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[07:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car track_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car%20track_chase
[07:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NSR-L - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NSR-L
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[08:05] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> !flights
[08:05] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Tab: Current flights: 03ARY-2 10(bace), 03Luna 10(36a7)
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[08:28] <GTO1> Any word how close Luna is to launch?
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[08:34] <PE2BZ_web> !flights
[08:34] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ_web: Current flights: 03ARY-2 10(bace), 03Luna 10(36a7)
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[08:51] <SM0ULC-Reb> I think Balloonolo is setting some kind of record....
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[08:55] <PE2BZ_web> Goodmorning. Anyone else who can't connect to freenode with an IRC client ?
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[08:57] Action: mfa298 checks, yup im still here
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[08:59] <PE2BZ> Must have been water in the fiber.... 20 minutes retrying and here I am on HexChat...
[08:59] <SM0ULC-Reb> i'm around :)
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[08:59] <michal_f> !flights
[08:59] <SpacenearUS> 03michal_f: Current flights: 03ARY-2 10(bace), 03Luna 10(36a7)
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[09:00] <AndyEsser> mattbrej1a: Cheers for the Link - sadly I have now made plans for EMF weekend
[09:10] Action: PE2BZ is sending one extremily large jpg on ssdv.habhub.org. Will revert to lowres after this image...
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[09:16] <SM0ULC-Reb> :)
[09:16] <fsphil> nice
[09:17] <PE2BZ> I found out why 1920 x 1080 is not ¨a multiple of 16¨ but 1920 x 1072 is ... And if I end the camera url with ?JpegSize= ... x ... it even takes poststamp size images..
[09:18] <fsphil> I remember adding the resolution fields to ssdv, thinking afterwards I'd made the range too big and nobody would be sending large images
[09:19] <PE2BZ> We didn´t met then ;-)
[09:19] <fsphil> it was nearly going to be 512x512 max
[09:19] <PE2BZ> No no ! Please ;-)
[09:21] <PE2BZ> I did notice however that with a real camera (USB or Picam) the pisky.txt settings for the size are followed, but I have installed a fake /dev/video0 device where I copy my jpeg to, and then is sends exactly the size of the jpeg image.
[09:21] Action: PE2BZ is wondering if I should register landhub.org
[09:21] <fsphil> the resolution in pisky.txt I imagine is just an instruction to the hardware
[09:21] <fsphil> ssdv will use whatever the jpeg is
[09:22] <PE2BZ> In about 2 years I will switch to 4K camera :-)
[09:23] <fsphil> 4096x4096 is the max atm :p
[09:23] <PE2BZ> No LoRa payloads planned for today ?
[09:24] <PE2BZ> 4096 is a nice multiple of 16 :-)
[09:25] <PE2BZ> I am considering a payload wiht rtl-dongle and SSD and record 2 MHz of radiospectrum @height. It makes however recovery a must.... I am allready offered 2 balloons and a bottle of HE and help.
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[09:26] <PE2BZ> But for this weekend we keep it simple. Try to rx lora over 67 km distance if there is no LoRa flight
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[09:49] <PE2BZ> Monday at work I will check if the balloon is really there, attached to the roof ;-)
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[09:53] <AndyEsser> I should go and mount my antenna again... have figured out the best place to put it now :)
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[10:01] <AndyEsser> fsphil: shouldn't be any problem with my antenna assembly being strapped to a metal pipe, given that the bottom of antenna is likely a good 3 meters from the last bit of metal?
[10:02] <fsphil> nope. my x50 was attached to a 3m alu pole
[10:15] <AndyEsser> cool :)
[10:16] <AndyEsser> this location I have in mind should pretty much clear the roof top, and be close enough that the 10m cable I have can run into my office, rather than having to use my laptop on the cooker hob :)
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[10:19] <[1]michal_f> !flights
[10:19] <SpacenearUS> 03[1]michal_f: Current flights: 03ARY-2 10(bace), 03Luna 10(36a7)
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[10:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ5TDW_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ5TDW_chase
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[10:46] <spacepeek> hello, good morning
[10:46] <mfa298> welcome
[10:46] <spacepeek> need help to configure dl-fldigi to prep for balloon fligth
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[10:47] <spacepeek> laucI'm reading the guide https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:tracking_guide
[10:47] <spacepeek> step to select payload
[10:48] <spacepeek> how can I add one mission to the paylod list
[10:48] <mfa298> what balloon are you trying to track ?
[10:48] <mfa298> is it a payload you're setting up currently ?
[10:48] <spacepeek> CT1EUS-11
[10:48] <spacepeek> yes
[10:48] <spacepeek> not flying yet
[10:48] <spacepeek> using habduino
[10:49] <spacepeek> from the box
[10:49] <spacepeek> changed only the callsign and frequency (434.485
[10:49] <spacepeek> changed only the callsign and frequency (434.485)
[10:49] <mfa298> are you recieving the telemetry from the payload and seeing it in the dl-fldigi waterfall ?
[10:52] <spacepeek> not anymore, I'm trying to use the sample file in the beginners guide
[10:52] <spacepeek> the receiver is being used for something else
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[10:54] <mfa298> for testing you can adjust the rtty settings manually by right clicking the rtty word at the bottom left of the dl-fldigi screen.
[10:54] <spacepeek> I've also set dl to offline
[10:54] <mfa298> you should also create a payload document if you havn't already that describes the payload string at habitat.habhub.org/genpayload/
[10:55] <mfa298> the payload doc will appear in the "All Payloads (testing)" list in the settings and you can select it from there.
[10:56] <mfa298> the flights dropdown list get's only gets populated by approved flight documents which you shouldn't create until you're ready to fly (they'll lock the settigns in for that flight so they can't be changed)
[11:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ARY-2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ARY-2
[11:05] <AndyEsser> What was the SDR program people recommended that could have multiple tuning windows?
[11:06] <miek> sdr-radio ?
[11:07] <AndyEsser> ta
[11:07] <miek> apparently SDR# can do it with a plugin, too
[11:07] <AndyEsser> Ta - downloading SDR radio atm, just wanted to double check
[11:09] <AndyEsser> hmm, SDR radio will require more time than I have atm. shall just use SDR# for the moment for the upcoming flight and then figure out SDR radio later :)
[11:10] <PE2BZ> !flights
[11:10] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03ARY-2 10(bace), 03Luna 10(36a7)
[11:11] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/tDckqGq
[11:11] <AndyEsser> new semi-permanent location for the antenna
[11:11] <AndyEsser> can stop taking it up/down now :)
[11:14] <michal_f> ary-2 is up
[11:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ary-2_mobile_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ary-2_mobile_chase
[11:17] <x-f> aren't you an hour ahead of the schedule?
[11:17] <x-f> nop, i'm failing in timezones and DST
[11:18] <AndyEsser> predicted travel path?
[11:20] <spacepeek> Payload Configuration -> Parser configuration: What ca I use as a template for the parser and that is compatible with habduino_v4 (out of the box)?
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[11:21] <spacepeek> I'm trying to use the "copy format from another doc"
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[11:21] <mfa298> spacepeek: there should be some habduino documentation that tells you what to do
[11:27] <AndyEsser> it's so nice not having to be perched by my oven :)
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[11:49] <spacepeek> mfa298: noluck with the docs. But I'm looking to the code and the only thing I cannot figure, is the default MTX2_SHIFT value if it is commented in the code. Does it go to zero?
[11:51] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser that´s a nice place for the antenna !
[11:51] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: gives me lots of length on the cable to route it into my office (the open window)
[11:52] <AndyEsser> and because most of the assembly is against the wall, hopefully will be quite secure against wind etc
[11:53] <PE2BZ> Nice ! Guess it improves you reception a lot this way
[11:54] <PE2BZ> Who is using the TV antenna ?
[11:56] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: it's higher than I've had it before
[11:56] <AndyEsser> noise floor is about -55dB
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[12:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0HIP-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
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[12:04] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: sdr-console is nice
[12:04] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: rtl-receiver?
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[12:05] <AndyEsser> SM0ULC-Reb: is that the TCP service I could run?
[12:05] <AndyEsser> (ie stick it on an RPi and then connect from my laptop/PC etc?
[12:07] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser the tcp server on the Pi does not require DLL´s installed on sdr-console indeed.
[12:08] <AndyEsser> can also port forward it then and access it remotely :)
[12:10] <PE2BZ> Takes a lot of bandwidth ! I did not succeed and I am on fiber (175 MB Up and down)
[12:10] <mfa298> you'll need some good bandwidth, from memory the raw IQ stream from the rtlsdr is around 30Mbit/s
[12:11] <AndyEsser> ah balls, would max out my upload
[12:11] <AndyEsser> but anyway, having it over TCP makes life easier even internally
[12:11] <PE2BZ> If however you connect the dongle to the SDR-Console PC and run SDR-Server there it will be remote accessed at about 500 kBit/s
[12:11] <mfa298> 2M samples/s, 8 bits each for I+Q (2m*8*2)
[12:19] <AndyEsser> times on flight docs are in UTC yes?
[12:21] <SM0ULC-Reb> any docs on the aprs => habhub gw?
[12:23] <SM0ULC-Reb> i.e autodetect of telemetry params etc
[12:25] <lz1dev> .wiki aprs telemetry
[12:25] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: No results for your query
[12:25] <lz1dev> .wiki telemetry
[12:25] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Wiki page 03telemetry (guides:aprs) - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:aprs:telemetry
[12:26] <SM0ULC-Reb> i've found , https://github.com/ukhas/habitat-aprs/blob/master/habitat_aprs/aprs.py
[12:26] <SM0ULC-Reb> but is it possible to check logging?
[12:27] <lz1dev> that never made it into habitat
[12:28] <lz1dev> you can ask the bot to check a callsign
[12:28] <lz1dev> .aprs info lz1dev
[12:28] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03LZ1DEV was near 0364.11987,-19.07066 at 0330 meters about 03a year ago - 12http://aprs.fi/info/LZ1DEV
[12:28] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Path: 03LZ1DEV>APRS via 03qAS,LZ1DEV-99
[12:28] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Symbol: 03/O
[12:28] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Comment: 03Xa
[12:28] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Status: 03test
[12:28] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Telemetry: 03Ch1 1011 03Ch2 1022 03Ch3 1033 03Ch4 1044 03Ch5 1055
[12:28] <SM0ULC-Reb> ah
[12:28] <SM0ULC-Reb> .aprs info sm3ulc-9
[12:28] <SpacenearUS> 03SM0ULC-Reb: No matches found
[12:29] <lz1dev> .telemetry lz1dev
[12:29] <lz1dev> .aprs telemetry lz1dev
[12:29] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03LZ1DEV telemetry: 03Ch1 1011 03Ch2 1022 03Ch3 1033 03Ch4 1044 03Ch5 1055
[12:29] <lz1dev> ^
[12:34] <evilroots-KG7QEO> "If I can't tell you're going to have a dick until I have your clothes off, I'm not stopping when I find one."
[12:34] <SpeedEvil> What if you find two?
[12:36] <evilroots-KG7QEO> eVEN BETTER
[12:39] <SM0ULC-Reb> .aprs telemetry sm3ulc-9
[12:39] <SpacenearUS> 03SM0ULC-Reb: You need to specify a callsign or pattern
[12:39] <SM0ULC-Reb> .aprs telemetry sm3ulc-9
[12:39] <SpacenearUS> 03SM0ULC-Reb: No matches found
[12:40] <SM0ULC-Reb> .aprs telemetry SM3ULC-9
[12:40] <SpacenearUS> 03SM0ULC-Reb: No matches found
[12:40] <SM0ULC-Reb> m
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[12:41] <SM0ULC-Reb> sa6bss_Mike: ello
[12:41] <sa6bss_Mike> tjA
[12:42] <sa6bss_Mike> kommer inte in via freenode, får köra web interphase
[12:42] <SM0ULC-Reb> ah
[12:43] <PE2BZ> That was the same I had this morning. After 20 minutes it worked normally again.
[12:43] <SM0ULC-Reb> sa6bss_Mike: provat flera servrar?
[12:44] <sa6bss_Mike> kollar nu...
[12:44] <sa6bss_Mike> its been down since 7,30this morning
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[12:46] <lz1dev> SM0ULC-Reb: objects don't get imported btw
[12:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> so, adams.freenode norway is down
[12:46] <SM0ULC-Reb> lz1dev: just position?
[12:46] <lz1dev> yep
[12:46] <SM0ULC-Reb> oki
[12:48] <SM0ULC-Reb> trying to get SM3ULC-9 imported
[12:59] <lz1dev> object are not supported at this time
[13:11] <SM0ULC-Reb> well, positioning is just fine
[13:13] <AndyEsser> no sign of the USDC launch?
[13:14] <evilroots-KG7QEO> ?
[13:14] <evilroots-KG7QEO> !utc
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[13:19] <AndyEsser> 1300 GMT/UTC
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[13:41] <SA6BSS-Mike> !dial ART-2
[13:41] <SpacenearUS> 03SA6BSS-Mike: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[13:41] <SA6BSS-Mike> !dial ARY-2
[13:41] <SpacenearUS> 03SA6BSS-Mike: Latest dials for 03ARY-2 10(bace): 039 MHz, 0.02 MHz, 28.275 MHz, 434.64897 MHz, 434.65 MHz, 28.493 MHz
[13:42] <Ian_> [13:19] <AndyEsser> times on flight docs are in UTC yes? YES all times zulu.
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[13:48] <michal_f> ary-2 pop
[13:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> stil 70km outo of 0deg
[13:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> no tace in wf
[13:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> *trace
[13:49] <AndyEsser> !dial ARY-2
[13:49] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Latest dials for 03ARY-2 10(bace): 039 MHz, 434.64907 MHz, 28.275 MHz, 0.02 MHz, 28.493 MHz, 434.65 MHz, 434.64897 MHz
[13:49] <PE2BZ> Would anyone know which GPS module is on the pits board ? http://www.pi-in-the-sky.com/data/uploads/pitsplus.jpg
[13:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> that was a god fill, aiming for 37000 ang popped at 36954m :)
[13:53] <x-f> heh, started seeing signal at -0.5deg, but it never was strong enough to decode it
[13:54] <AndyEsser> doubtful I'll get ARY-2
[13:55] <PE2BZ> I don´t get it ;-)
[13:56] <michal_f> SA6BSS-Mike, I aimed at 5 m/s
[13:56] <michal_f> turned out 3.5 m/s
[14:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W5LCY-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5LCY-7
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[14:04] <evilroots-KG7QEO> what else can be used to track flights besides rtlsdr?
[14:04] <Vaizki> x-f: I did ask about HF on the LimeSDR, the guy said that there is already a video on HF tests in the forums
[14:05] <Vaizki> evilroots-KG7QEO: any radio that does UHF on 70cm and demodulates SSB
[14:05] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Mh only fm right now :(
[14:05] <x-f> Vaizki, thanks, will try to find it
[14:05] <evilroots-KG7QEO> where can one get a all mode SSB 70cm
[14:05] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Cheepist possible?
[14:06] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Is there a USA ballon site?
[14:06] <Vaizki> evilroots-KG7QEO: they are not common.. yupiteru makes a cheapish one
[14:06] <x-f> evilroots-KG7QEO, Icom R10, Yupiteru 7100
[14:07] <Vaizki> yaesu ft-817 also a good one but not so cheap
[14:07] <evilroots-KG7QEO> i cant find any thing on Yupiteru 7100
[14:07] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Nothing on ebay but chargers
[14:07] <Vaizki> try MVT-7100
[14:08] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Nope
[14:08] <Vaizki> in the US balloons tend to use APRS because .. well it's legal there to fly a HAM radio
[14:08] <PE2BZ> ft-857 is less portable but cheaper
[14:08] <evilroots-KG7QEO> I see may i havea link to a usa base site for ballons ( is this IRC channel UK only? )
[14:09] <Vaizki> not uk only here, I am from Finland
[14:09] <evilroots-KG7QEO> I meant EU
[14:09] <Vaizki> also us people, aussies, germans, dutch...
[14:09] <Vaizki> swedes, norwegians.. :)
[14:10] <evilroots-KG7QEO> What does a ballon that will stay up for a while cost?
[14:10] <Vaizki> and don't mention EU.. ooops
[14:10] <evilroots-KG7QEO> What are most failures from?
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[14:10] <Ian_> finger trouble
[14:10] <Vaizki> you mean a "floater"?
[14:11] <Vaizki> most flights are up & down, meaning they go up until they eburst, then the payload comes down with parachut
[14:11] <evilroots-KG7QEO> IDK i see ballons that travl almost all the way around the world, so if ia did this i want a ballon to travel
[14:11] <Vaizki> and is recovered (hopefully)
[14:11] <evilroots-KG7QEO> new to ballons but am a HAM and this is neat
[14:11] <Vaizki> yes that's a floater. it settles on a certain density of air and floats around. they are usually very very small and use "party balloons"
[14:11] <evilroots-KG7QEO> I dont want a up and down ballon
[14:12] <evilroots-KG7QEO> how much is the cost of the ballon
[14:12] <Vaizki> 5 dollars? :)
[14:12] <Vaizki> https://amsat-uk.org/2014/04/08/solar-powered-434-mhz-balloons-launched/
[14:12] <Vaizki> that is old but shows you a party balloon floater
[14:12] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Party ballons really??
[14:13] <Vaizki> well the "pros" make their own balloons (also known as "envelopes")
[14:13] <evilroots-KG7QEO> wut
[14:13] <evilroots-KG7QEO> What do those look like
[14:13] <Vaizki> like party balloons..
[14:14] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Is there a PRO ballon floater that i can buy? i'd like a long life as possible.
[14:14] <Vaizki> but maybe they don't leak as much.. don't get ahead of yourself :)
[14:14] <Vaizki> not that I know of
[14:14] <Vaizki> just fly a party one first :)
[14:14] <evilroots-KG7QEO> i see that most of the pro flight last about 90 days
[14:14] <Vaizki> https://ukamsat.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/typical-434-mhz-solar-powered-payload-credit-leo-bodnar-m0xer.jpg
[14:14] <Vaizki> that's the whole tracker
[14:14] <evilroots-KG7QEO> wUT!!!!
[14:14] <evilroots-KG7QEO> whoa
[14:14] <Vaizki> Leo Bodnar's
[14:14] <Vaizki> well it's a party balloon you know
[14:14] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Thats not APRS tho
[14:15] <evilroots-KG7QEO> ?
[14:15] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Link to that cool as fuck radio?
[14:15] <Vaizki> no that's 434MHz.. but the aprs ones are also that small
[14:15] <Vaizki> link? build one yourself
[14:15] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Huh?
[14:15] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Idk how to make radios
[14:15] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Im a tech
[14:15] <Ian_> The party balloon types are often Qualtex. With Leo's small trackers, you didn't get much for your money, but they went far enough :)
[14:15] <evilroots-KG7QEO> I'd need a guide
[14:15] <Vaizki> that's just a microcontroller + radio chip + solar + gps... ;)
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[14:16] <Vaizki> what's the fun in buying a ready made one..
[14:16] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Im lazy
[14:17] <evilroots-KG7QEO> And i'd like something to just work
[14:17] <evilroots-KG7QEO> And i cant soder to save my life
[14:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CMAKER - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CMAKER
[14:17] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Please?
[14:17] <Ian_> Here teenagers have written their own code and made their own trackers and then gone on to University on the back of the enthusiasm generated and a lot of the info learned
[14:18] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Is there a ready made thing for that small ofa tracker please
[14:18] <Ian_> No. it's only recently that there have been any off the shelf solutions at all.
[14:19] <Ian_> The ethos has always been to teach people how to do it themselves.
[14:19] <evilroots-KG7QEO> well i need a guide
[14:19] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Will to try to build it but i need docs
[14:19] <Ian_> The present off the shelf items were aimed at teachers who just don't have the time and resourses to diy
[14:19] <Vaizki> you're not the most patient type...
[14:19] <Ian_> Read the wikis
[14:20] <Vaizki> put a few hours in every day for a year and it'll be fine
[14:20] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Vaizki, Yep...
[14:20] <Vaizki> and learn to solder :)
[14:20] <Ian_> You need to have the right attitude to succeed and appearing flip isn't likely to help
[14:20] <PE2BZ> Upu are you there ?
[14:21] <Upu> briefly yes
[14:21] <PE2BZ> Can you please tell me which GPS module is on the PITS board ?
[14:21] <Upu> Ublox MAX-M8Q
[14:22] <PE2BZ> Thanks ! (big thanks)
[14:22] <Upu> nps :)
[14:22] <PE2BZ> Now I cut 2 wires from the expansion board and rewire them to pin 13 and 15 :-)
[14:23] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Ian_, What does appearing flip isn't likely to help mean
[14:23] <Ian_> Overly casual and cheeky
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[14:23] <Vaizki> flip flop and fly!
[14:24] <Vaizki> sorry that started playing in my head...
[14:24] <Ian_> flip flops, too much time in the far east
[14:25] <Vaizki> sorry dropped a comma.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgzdgLR6tl4
[14:25] <Vaizki> Ian_: and I've only been here for a week...
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[14:26] <Ian_> What, no Imelda flip flop collection then?
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[14:27] <Ian_> Vaizki, can we put in a short order for a little summer weather, it's in very short supply here at the moment and the prospect looks less than rosy.
[14:28] <Vaizki> even though I hail from the frosty shores of Finland I've managed to catch enough civilization to not wear flipflops.. :P
[14:28] <Vaizki> sorry we're all out.. it's been tipping it down here for the whole week
[14:28] <Vaizki> rainy season and all that
[14:29] <Ian_> Looks under the board room table to check for correct footwear.
[14:29] <Ian_> In Singapore they used to say that in the monsoon season that it was quicker by drain!
[14:36] <Vaizki> I would sooo much prefer Singapore to Shanghai.. anyway, driifting a bit OT.. now where did I put that biscuit
[14:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD4STH-9 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD4STH-9
[14:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD4STH-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD4STH-7
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[14:58] <SA6BSS-Mike> evilroots-KG7QEO: there is a pro floater balloon avalible to buy , get a light tracker to over 13000m , I can post a link if u like (have to go through alot of yahoo to find it)
[14:58] <evilroots-KG7QEO> Please
[14:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> for portable radio look for Yupiteru or Stabo
[14:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> google the verison so u get a ssb version
[14:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok, having a look....
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[15:02] <kc2pit> PE2BZ: I'm curious about your idea to record a bunch of spectrum from high up with an SDR. Any particular reason you want to do that?
[15:04] <Vaizki> I was assuming "just for fun"..
[15:05] <notm0nty> Hi guys. Does anyone know if the USDC launch happened today?
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[15:06] <kc2pit> Because I'm working on some noise measurement stuff that ends up being kinda similar, but with a bunch of complication added.
[15:06] <kc2pit> Like lots of math to extract statistics and downlink them, because recovery isn't really practical.
[15:10] <notm0nty> Ah, It's postponed according to twitter, possibly launchig tomorrow.
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[15:12] <PE2BZ> kc2pit Out of curiosity. If I receive a HAB @ 25 km with my antenna on 13 m what would I receive if I was the HAB @25 km
[15:13] <SA6BSS-Mike> evilroots-KG7QEO: http://www.scientificballoonsolutions.com/ http://www.scientificballoonsolutions.com/products/
[15:13] <evilroots-KG7QEO> thank you for takeing the time!
[15:14] <evilroots-KG7QEO> will they sell to me?
[15:15] <Vaizki> you have to try.. just.. a.. bit.. yourself
[15:15] <kc2pit> Cool. I and a few othes got interested in that sort of question when we were trying to figure out why some early cubesats using Microhard MHX2420 radios seemed to fail so hard at communicating.
[15:17] <PE2BZ> kc2pit But it´s a plan at this moment. Nothing more, but I like my plan :-)
[15:17] <PE2BZ> And a 2 MHz downlink is not an option ;-)
[15:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> evilroots-KG7QEO: yes ofc
[15:17] <kc2pit> It seemed likely that they were failing due to the cubesat radio being unable to hear the ground radio over all the crap on 2.4GHz, so we decided to check that hypothesis from a balloon.
[15:18] <kc2pit> Turned out that 2.4GHz is indeed on fire if your antenna is at high altitude.
[15:18] <Vaizki> PE2BZ: QAM-64 maybe? :)
[15:19] <PE2BZ> That´s a great idea. The Hai´l sat(or what is the name again) will use 2.4 GHz uplink also. That will be a mess...
[15:19] <PE2BZ> But my WiFi range will extend ;-)
[15:19] <kc2pit> This was apparently a surprise to some people, so we figured it would be fun to measure more. More balloons are coming, but they're mostly to test payload functionality for this:
[15:19] <kc2pit> https://ubnl.space/linksat/
[15:19] <PE2BZ> Vaizki I will talk to my cableguy partners, perhaps they will participate ;-)
[15:19] <kc2pit> Because NASA thought it was a cool idea too. :)
[15:20] Action: PE2BZ took of his glasses. Have to cut a PCB track with a needle. Now, where´s that needle.... Ouch... there it is...
[15:23] <kc2pit> We've spent a while thinking of how to extract a useful but downlinkable amount of information. The really simple idea is to record a waterfall display as an image and JPEG it. If you don't want too much detail, that can get pretty small.
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[15:28] <michal_f> ary-2 retrieved
[15:28] <michal_f> https://drive.google.com/embeddedfolderview?id=0B_8ipK0TpiuhMTJpcE45R2xGcmc#grid
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[15:29] <PE2BZ> kc2pit that was the second idea. That´s one of the reasons I am fooling Pi in the Sky LoRa SSDV by faking the /dev/video0 and tranmit jpeg images
[15:29] <PE2BZ> kc2pit http://ssdv.habhub.org/PE2BZ
[15:30] <kc2pit> Nice.
[15:30] <PE2BZ> kc2pit I do a waterfall for the 400 - 406 MHz band with a Beaglebone (could also be a Pi) and a RTL-SDR http://109.109.112.170:8080/2016-07-02_06-47-38_waterfall.png
[15:30] <Vaizki> why do you have to fool it, it's opensource..
[15:32] <kc2pit> Not bad. We may have to steal^Wresearch some of your work.
[15:32] <Vaizki> how about downlinking waterfall one pixel row at a time in real time...
[15:32] <PE2BZ> My fooling is much better than my C skills I noticed after 4 days of googling error messages. The 5th day I remembered I had to use make after changing a C source instead of running GCC and fix all the errors. So I decided to install a fake /dev/video0 to which I copy a jpg on (at this moment on hourly base when no HAB is SSDV ´ing)
[15:32] <Vaizki> or 16 pixel high images
[15:33] <Vaizki> hehe.. kludge runs the world :)
[15:34] <PE2BZ> kc2pit send me an email at callsign at callsign dot nl and I will supply you with the script. It´s not closed source but the maker would like a link on their website also. That would not work from space but I explain that to him ;-)
[15:34] <kc2pit> "This is so stupid, but it kinda works for now and I really need to move on to this other thing. I'll come back and do it right later."
[15:34] <kc2pit> [20 years later] "WTF? What idiot would do it that way?"
[15:35] <PE2BZ> Then, at the age of 72, I type ¨I was it !!¨ ;-)
[15:36] <PE2BZ> I am away for cooking. Be back later tonight.
[15:36] <PE2BZ> And I dislike the raspberry in my images :-(
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[15:37] <PE2BZ> And it´s gone ;-)
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[16:38] <Laurenceb__> http://imgur.com/aJrX8Hu
[16:38] <Laurenceb__> what the heck libreoffice
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[17:52] <PE2BZ> Upu it works ! 17:51:55 Ch0: $$PE2BZ_LoRa,158,17:50:49,51.99154,4.19883,00007,0,0,8,42.2,5.0..
[17:53] <PE2BZ> This board https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=60_64&product_id=81 combined with the LoRa board https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=68 works as GPS for the LoRa tracker after a little modification on the GPS board. Cut the tracks to I2C pins 3 and 5 to the header and wire them to pins 13 and 15 to the header.
[17:54] <PE2BZ> And now time for a little fix, after a reboot I am no longer allowed to copy jpeg to /dev/video0 :-(
[18:00] <fsphil> bad idea anyway
[18:02] <PE2BZ> At the moment I do not have a better way.... But I am happy with the GPS coördinates, indoor antenna under the roof....
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[18:21] <SM0ULC-Reb>
[18:22] <SM0ULC-Reb> add hysplit to KD2EAT-14 ?
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[20:59] <SM0ULC-Reb>
[21:15] <mfa298> \0
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[21:20] <cm13g09> evening mfa298
[21:20] <mfa298> evening cm13g09
[21:21] <cm13g09> mfa298: You have PM
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[22:14] <SM0ULC-Reb> Add hysplit to KD2EAT-14 pse?
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[22:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK4BW-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK4BW-11
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[23:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC3GMG-9_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC3GMG-9_chase
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[23:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC3GMG_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC3GMG_chase
[23:13] <SM0ULC-Reb> 66NT landed yesterday.. kinde big payload :)
[23:13] <SM0ULC-Reb> https://blogs.nasa.gov/superpressureballoon/wp-content/uploads/sites/260/2016/05/Launch-1024x576.jpeg
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