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[07:05] <PE2BZ> !flights
[07:05] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812), 03CAEN_CP1 10(41dd), 03XABEN-98 10(35a7), 03actionman 10(7780), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32), 03Bradgatepark 10(e508)
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[09:01] <AndyEsser> heading off to go and try and recover X7
[09:04] <PE2BZ> Good luck !
[09:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> gl, u have a radio so u can upload to habhub once u hear it ?
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[09:35] <DL1SGP> good morning everyone :)
[09:35] <PE2BZ> Good morning !
[09:41] <SM0ULC-Reb> who knows about how the import aprs => habhub worx?
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[09:50] <PE1ANS> Morgen Ben, ben ook ingelogd op HABNL IRC...
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[09:58] <mfa298> SM0ULC-Reb: I think it's based on the SSID and altitude, lz1dev is probably the best person to talk to
[09:58] <adamgreig> if you have a callsign i know how to add it to the importer
[10:01] <SM0ULC-Reb> adamgreig: making import for VE3KCL/Dave's balloons
[10:01] <adamgreig> what's the balloon's callsign? VE3KCL-11?
[10:03] <SM0ULC-Reb> i acn make it so
[10:03] <SM0ULC-Reb> running under my own call in case of trouble :)
[10:03] <SM0ULC-Reb> SM3ULC-9
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[10:05] <adamgreig> ok i'll add that one
[10:05] <adamgreig> done
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[10:07] <SM0ULC-Reb> thanks :)
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[11:16] <tweetBot> @philcrump2: Successful HAB Flight launched at 0500 yesterday. Ground Photos: https://t.co/XXx14sEcN4 RPi (on HAB) Photos: https://t.co/54ET253gxr #ukhas
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[11:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0HIP-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
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[11:56] <tweetBot> @philcrump2: Test tweet #ukhas
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[12:06] <tweetBot> @philcrump2: test tweet RT #ukhas
[12:07] <tweetBot> @daveake: New blog post - SKYBLUE/RTLS1 flight report https://t.co/bIUl77uN8C #ukhas
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[12:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-12 after 038 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-12
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[13:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD5GOM-11 after 0312 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD5GOM-11
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[13:35] <sq6omn> Hello
[13:36] <sq6omn> Is it possible to get my own hourly prediction? With who I have to contact with this?
[13:38] <daveake> The admins in #habhub can do it for you
[13:40] <sq6omn> OK, thank you. I will try there.
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[14:09] <tweetBot> @philcrump2: New: Google Earth KML View of SFSU's High Rate position telemetry yesterday: https://t.co/MmRDRE0soJ #ukhas https://t.co/nvZVDYyX2O
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[14:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W9UVI-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W9UVI-11
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[14:59] Action: AndyEsser commits sepuku
[15:00] <AndyEsser> RocketBoy: I failed :(
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[15:08] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: kinda kills iterative development.. :)
[15:14] <AndyEsser> SM0ULC-Reb: the sepuku?
[15:19] <fsphil> no signal?
[15:20] <RocketBoy> hi - AndyEsser - just read your post - did you manage to decode a position from X7?
[15:20] <AndyEsser> yes, sorry, meant to add that
[15:21] <AndyEsser> and I'm just looking at google maps now
[15:21] <AndyEsser> my phone lied to me
[15:21] <AndyEsser> seems like I was in the wrong place
[15:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EW3ADS_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EW3ADS_chase
[15:21] <AndyEsser> FFS
[15:21] <AndyEsser> 52.59939, -2.89332
[15:21] <RocketBoy> cheers
[15:22] <AndyEsser> sorry I couldn't get it
[15:22] <AndyEsser> I am ill equipped for such things :(
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[15:24] <RocketBoy> thanks for trying though
[15:24] <RocketBoy> its not that importnt that I get it back
[15:24] <AndyEsser> It's annoying that I managed to get so close, but couldn't recove
[15:25] <RocketBoy> there is a house at the end of the track - I might see if I can get in contact with them
[15:25] <RocketBoy> its good to get a final position anyways
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[15:26] <AndyEsser> the track leading to Pollardine Farm (just to the west) is where I pulled into and got the final decode
[15:26] <mfa298> AndyEsser: you just have to rembmer that it's all good practice for when you do your own flight
[15:27] <AndyEsser> mfa298: Yep, that's what I saw this as - all good practice
[15:27] <AndyEsser> just a shame I wasn't able to recover eit
[15:27] <AndyEsser> suspect with a handheld yagi I'd have been able to get it
[15:28] <AndyEsser> Google Maps is giving a different position to what my Phone says
[15:28] <AndyEsser> suspect the Phone tries to match it to a point on the road
[15:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> love this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gpsfindme.benamati.it
[15:30] <RocketBoy> yeah - some do
[15:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> just ad cordin. and the open google maps from inside , drive to location.
[15:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> then switch back to app and folow the compas arrow
[15:30] <mfa298> Soem of the mapping apps do like to take you to the nearest road rather than the actual location.
[15:30] <RocketBoy> but that lat/lon was from a decoded packet - I mostly go by that
[15:31] <RocketBoy> ?
[15:31] <mfa298> although if you were able to get a position from it today that's a good start
[15:31] <mfa298> AndyEsser: if it's an android phone look at hamgps, you can feed it a lat/long and it will give you direction and distance to the payload
[15:32] <daveake> I find the compass on that a bit random
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[15:35] <AndyEsser> unfortunately I destroyed my phone on Friday night, so this was just an old Nokia 920 I had with Windows Phone
[15:36] <AndyEsser> RocketBoy: Yes, that lat/lon was from decoded packet
[15:36] <AndyEsser> I need to get the apps/tools to be able to map/etc without any internet connection
[15:39] <daveake> backcountry navigator for android is good - offline OSM maps
[15:39] <daveake> No doubt plenty of others do a similar job
[15:40] <russss> maps.me is my favourite now
[15:41] <AndyEsser> daveake: yea, you showed me something when I popped down last time, and I jsut completely forgot to download it :(
[15:41] <mfa298> for a 50/300 baud payload there's also the Hab modem and tracker, rtty decoder and OSM map all in one :)
[15:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WO9N-7 after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WO9N-7
[15:42] <SA6BSS-Mike> gahh, how to test a solar tracker when there is no sun outside?
[15:42] <AndyEsser> SA6BSS-Mike: lamp
[15:42] <AndyEsser> :)
[15:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> a BIG lamp might do it yes
[15:43] <AndyEsser> mfa298: does that work with an RTL SDR plugged into the micro-USB via an OTG cable or soemthing?
[15:44] <craag> AndyEsser: It uses microphone/line in
[15:44] <mfa298> AndyEsser: it just takes audio in, there are some android sdr apps, althoguh I'm not sure how easily you can pipe audio from one to ther other
[15:44] <AndyEsser> Ah, so I'd still have to have my laptop with the SDR and pipe the audio from that?
[15:45] <craag> You would - it's more designed to use with hardware radios
[15:45] <craag> so you don't need to lug the laptop
[15:45] <AndyEsser> gotcha
[15:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> there is sdr touch so u can run the rtl sdr and pipe audio I guess
[15:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> in a phone, but a laptop willmake things so much easeyer
[15:47] <mfa298> I've used HAB modem and tracker via an Acoustic Coupler with added air gap. AKA FT817 sat on the dashboard, and the phone in a holder just above it.
[15:47] <AndyEsser> When I finally get around to launching my own (and before if I find time) I'd like to have apps on my tablet, similar to what Dave has that gives compass etc
[15:47] <mfa298> worked surprisingly well
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[15:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> jepp, did a recording from a stranded hab from speaker to phone and decoded that when I got home, went back a week later and found the tracker
[15:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> from my ft817
[15:49] <craag> AndyEsser: you'll also want the car pc
[15:49] <craag> and the 4x4 to put it in...
[15:49] <SA6BSS-Mike> :)
[15:49] <AndyEsser> craag: company car goes back on Friday
[15:49] <AndyEsser> September I'll buy myself a car
[15:49] <AndyEsser> looking at something like a Hilux
[15:49] <AndyEsser> :)
[15:50] <craag> get a land rover, you'll never be bored on the weekend again ;)
[15:50] <AndyEsser> one place I parked up this afternoon, I was concerned I was going to rip the axle off when I reversed out
[15:50] <AndyEsser> nice big deep tractor tyre grooves
[15:50] <AndyEsser> craag: I don't want to be fixing it constantly
[15:50] <AndyEsser> :P
[15:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> nop, with a landrover u have all weekend to fix it !
[15:50] <AndyEsser> gah, really annoyed about not finding it :(
[15:51] <AndyEsser> Now I've seen where it is on the map, I imagine I could just go and grab it straight away if I went back :(
[15:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> its usuly that simple yes.
[15:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> long drive?'
[15:53] <AndyEsser> 90% of it takes about 45 minutes
[15:53] <AndyEsser> the final 10% takes another 45 minutes
[15:53] <daveake> AndyEsser: I think this is what craag was alluding to :-) https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/ukhas/LkteE6wS5L8/2zojC2Zh5lwJ
[15:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok
[15:54] <AndyEsser> daveake: ta
[15:54] <AndyEsser> :)
[15:54] <daveake> I'm way beyond that list :p
[15:55] <AndyEsser> hahaha
[15:55] <AndyEsser> I love that list
[15:56] <craag> I've finally bought a 12" thinkpad for field stuff
[15:56] <craag> but mostly habbing ;)
[15:56] <AndyEsser> you just reminded me that I'm not going to EMF and now I'm sad :(
[15:57] <craag> :(
[15:58] <AndyEsser> ah well, at least I'm going to the UKHAS conference
[15:58] <craag> :)
[15:59] <AndyEsser> I get at least one weekend of geeking out this year :)
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[16:55] <richrboo_> daveake: Hello. I need to make a ground plane
[16:56] <richrboo_> daveake: does it matter if radials have insulation on the wires?
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[16:56] <adamgreig> no
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[16:56] <richrboo_> adamgreig: thanks
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[17:01] <mfa298> richrboo_: for future reference questions like that can be asked to the room in general you don't need to ask a specific person.
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[17:02] <AndyEsser> daveake: do you need backcountry navigator Pro for offline maps?
[17:04] <richrboo_> mfa298: Ok, that's great. Will do next time. Thanks
[17:05] <mfa298> often when you put someones name at the start of the line it makes their client alert them.
[17:06] Action: PE2BZ says if radials are made from measure lint sometimes it would be better to isolate. Sometimes they do cut the parachute rope...
[17:06] <mfa298> so for general questions that anyone can answer it's usually better to not ping a specific person
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[17:14] <AndyEsser> http://futurism.com/esa-says-their-space-base-between-the-earth-and-moon-could-be-built-in-10-years/
[17:14] <AndyEsser> that'd be impressive
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[17:20] <SpeedEvil> That is a truly stupid place to put it
[17:21] <SpeedEvil> Without a couple of orders of magnitude lower launch cost, it basically guarantees it'll be tiny
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[17:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC0HYX-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC0HYX-1
[17:58] <PE2BZ> That would make a great reflector for trans-atlantic QSO´s .
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[18:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
[18:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD7VLB_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD7VLB_chase
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[18:46] <mfa298> there's something quite comical about seeing ELO doing Mr Blue Sky to a muddy field in the rain at Glastonbury.
[18:51] <AndyEsser> Hmm.. yes... those words... I know what you're talking about
[18:52] <fsphil> ELO performing live in the rain. Shocking.
[18:52] <gb73d> lol
[18:53] Action: fsphil sees himself out
[18:53] <gb73d> lol
[18:54] <gb73d> puts himself out :)
[18:54] <AndyEsser> fsphil: good lord man...
[18:55] <fsphil> better ending would've been "They're in for a shock."
[18:56] <gb73d> im rec loads a glasstonbury for later
[18:57] <fsphil> EMF could get risky in the rain
[18:57] <AndyEsser> shocking
[18:57] <AndyEsser> :)
[18:58] <fsphil> might get an old thinkpad. not sure I'd want my new(ish) one there
[18:59] <AndyEsser> I'll be nice and warm and dry inside my house :)
[18:59] <AndyEsser> can someone run a webcam 24/7 in habville for me so I can pretend I'm there?
[18:59] <LeoBodnar> "I met someone who looks a lot like you, she does the things you do, but she is a lenovo"
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[19:23] <SM0ULC-Reb> S12 being very quiet
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