highaltitude.log.20160625

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[02:41] <craag> morning
[02:41] <craag> we're at launch site
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[02:48] <adamgreig> have a good launch
[02:51] <craag> .ping CRAAG7
[02:51] <SpacenearUS> 03craag: Last contact with 03CRAAG7 was 035 minutes ago
[02:51] <craag> ta :)
[03:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SFSU - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SFSU
[03:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WO9N-7 after 038 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WO9N-7
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[04:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[04:43] <matt_chase> lora sending positions at 5hz
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[04:43] Nick change: daey_ -> daey
[04:43] <matt_chase> susf.philcrump.co.uk
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[04:57] <matt_chase> s
[04:58] <g8fjg> its a pity, I can see the LoRa transmissions , but no decodes due to QRM
[04:59] <matt_chase> :-(
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[05:11] <PE1ANS> CRAAG7 image 23, very nice picture
[05:13] <g8fjg> much qrm, but thats not real problem,,,is it running different code? signal is huge rssi -68, mode1 here and not even detecting packets
[05:18] <matt_chase> are you using daves gareway or my modded one?
[05:18] <matt_chase> see maiking kist
[05:18] <matt_chase> mailing list post
[05:21] <g8fjg> just sen that ..too early morning!....old bloke trying to get head round the "fix"
[05:24] <matt_chase> so this payload has a much faster update rate and usi
[05:24] <matt_chase> uses a binary protocol, which has been added in the modified verdion
[05:29] <g8fjg> it may be fast and clever and binary...but it may as well be morse code ( I cant receive that either)
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[05:30] <whiteg6> !flights
[05:30] <SpacenearUS> 03whiteg6: Current flights: 03Miser1 10(fdb6), 03Basingstoke Sunrise Launch 10(4cc5), 03MM8 10(c489), 03SKYBLUE1 10(065f), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812), 03CAEN_CP1 10(41dd), 03XABEN-98 10(35a7), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[05:30] <matt_chase> at least there is ssdv too then
[05:30] <whiteg6> !dial miser1
[05:30] <SpacenearUS> 03whiteg6: Latest dials for 03Miser1 10(fdb6): none
[05:32] <whiteg6> !dial SKYBLUE1
[05:32] <SpacenearUS> 03whiteg6: Latest dials for 03SKYBLUE1 10(065f): none
[05:32] <craag> New SUSF tracker: https://susf.philcrump.co.uk/
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[05:38] <g8fjg> are you able to get position via LoRa transmissions?
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[05:42] <RocketBoy> in general yes - but depends on how its being sed and setup
[05:42] <RocketBoy> used
[05:45] <g8fjg> burst now ..just found "branch" but would take me a day to find out how and where to "stick" it ;-)
[05:53] <DoYouKnow> everything is going by so fast
[05:54] <DoYouKnow> can you help me demodulate a signal?
[05:54] <DoYouKnow> this is what the signal looks like: http://imgur.com/a/Ac8nY
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[06:00] <Chimpusmaximus> RocketBoy you still got some planned flights today? Ok to pop down to Elsworth?
[06:00] <RocketBoy> yep and yep
[06:01] <RocketBoy> meeting up at 12:00 - launch 1:00pm
[06:01] <Chimpusmaximus> cool just have to hope wife finished shopping by then :-(
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[06:36] <SM0ULC-Reb> morrn
[06:37] <DL1SGP> morning SM0ULC-Reb :)
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[06:46] <SM0ULC-Reb> VE3OCL is playing hard to get :(
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[07:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GTO1_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GTO1_chase
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[08:28] <pb0ahx> !flights
[08:28] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03Miser1 10(fdb6), 03Basingstoke Sunrise Launch 10(4cc5), 03MM8 10(c489), 03SKYBLUE1 10(065f), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812), 03CAEN_CP1 10(41dd), 03XABEN-98 10(35a7), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[08:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RTLS1 after 0316 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RTLS1
[08:38] <DL1SGP> yay for RTLS1 :)
[08:41] <SM0ULC-Reb> wow
[08:41] <SM0ULC-Reb> record in telemetry? :)
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[09:03] Action: PE2BZ have attached 2 different antennas to 2 LoRa modules. Nice way to compare 2 antenna´s
[09:08] <PE1ANS> succes Ben, ga vanmiddag mijn eerste lora rx proberen te realiseren
[09:09] <AndyEsser> Time to climb a ladder!
[09:09] <AndyEsser> If you don't hear from me in like... 30-40 mins
[09:09] <AndyEsser> assume I fell and killed myself
[09:10] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: climbinharness is a good thing
[09:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SKYBLUE1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SKYBLUE1
[09:12] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: a simple on like this is a lot better than nothing, http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDg1WDczOQ==/z/i-UAAOSwHjNV~b4H/$_57.JPG?set_id=880000500F
[09:14] <PE2BZ> PE1ANS Ha Jan, ik had een apart IRC venster voor jou geopend, dan kunnen we in het NL verder
[09:14] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser but don´t tie it to the ladder ;-)
[09:15] <SM0ULC-Reb> PE1ANS: we just got two dutch families at our kindergarten, i'll soon decode you! ;)
[09:16] <AndyEsser> SM0ULC-Reb: Thanks, but I'm only going up a 10ft ladder, it's fine :)
[09:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> dont forget the parachute :)
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[09:17] <AndyEsser> SA6BSS-Mike: heh
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[09:24] <fsphil> ah, BARC splashed
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[09:25] <DL1SGP> BARC is training for your buoy deploy project fsphil :)
[09:25] <fsphil> hah
[09:25] <PE1ANS> Ben, qrv op HABNL
[09:26] <SM0ULC-Reb> why not use a "HAB" to lift a bouy out to sea and then release ;)
[09:26] <fsphil> that's the plan :)
[09:26] <DL1SGP> that's teh plan
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[09:27] <AndyEsser> hmm... this antenna assembly is fair wobbly...
[09:27] <AndyEsser> if Mark Watney has taught me anything, it's that Duct Tape will hold anything together
[09:29] <fsphil> craag: nice pics
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[09:30] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser good to see you´re back ;-)
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[09:30] <DL1SGP> Hi Ben!
[09:31] <PE2BZ> GM Felix !
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[09:37] <DL1SGP> yay RTLS1 in air
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[09:38] <DutchMillbt> Goodmorning RTLS1 LoRa or rtty?
[09:39] <PE2BZ> !payload RTLS1
[09:39] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03RTLS1 10(065f) 03$$RTLS1 - no transmissions
[09:39] <PE2BZ> !flights
[09:39] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03Miser1 10(fdb6), 03Basingstoke Sunrise Launch 10(4cc5), 03MM8 10(c489), 03SKYBLUE1 10(065f), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812), 03CAEN_CP1 10(41dd), 03XABEN-98 10(35a7), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[09:39] <PE2BZ> !payload SKYBLUE1
[09:39] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03SKYBLUE1 10(065f) 03$$SKYBLUE1 - 03Primary - 03434.65 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/700Hz ASCII-7 none 2
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[09:40] <AndyEsser> well... that's not gone to plan
[09:40] <DutchMillbt> Morning Ben
[09:40] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: hadn't gone up the ladder at that point, have, and come back down
[09:40] <AndyEsser> and bailed on the idea
[09:40] <PE2BZ> DutchMillbt Good morning !
[09:41] <DutchMillbt> Ben local qrv @433.100?
[09:41] <PE2BZ> Are RTLS1 and SKYBLUE on the same balloon ?
[09:41] <DutchMillbt> Oke thankz
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[09:43] <DL1SGP> I think so Ben ... Skyblue1 just is sending less frequently I assume
[09:45] <daveake> yes that
[09:47] <Upu> how do I get EC5:8 ?
[09:47] <daveake> coding_5
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[09:47] <daveake> sry coding_1=5
[09:47] <Upu> frequency_0=434.450
[09:47] <Upu> mode_0=1
[09:47] <Upu> implicit_0=1
[09:47] <Upu> coding_0=5
[09:47] <Upu> sf_0=6
[09:47] <Upu> ?
[09:47] <SP9UOB-Tom> morning All :-)
[09:48] <daveake> For mine just freq/mode comment out all the others
[09:48] <DL1SGP> Good Morning SP9UOB-Tom
[09:48] <Upu> Implicit, 20.8k, SF6, EC4:5
[09:48] <AndyEsser> of course it now starts to rain
[09:48] <Upu> is what I get when I do that
[09:50] <AndyEsser> eurgh, next satellite pass isn't until 13:40 :(
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[09:53] <fsphil> antenna up?
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[09:53] <nik996> Hi everyone
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[09:54] <nik996> How can I contact upu?
[09:54] <Upu> Say Upu three times and he shall respond
[09:54] <SP9UOB-Tom> LOL
[09:54] <PE2BZ> Upu three times....
[09:54] <DL1SGP> without rubbing the lamp?
[09:55] <SP9UOB-Tom> say it backwards !
[09:55] <fsphil> you have to say it backwards for the evil version
[09:55] <fsphil> hah
[09:55] <Upu> lol
[09:55] <Upu> yes
[09:55] <Upu> upU
[09:55] <PE2BZ> Up You >
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[09:56] <fsphil> palindrome of evil
[09:56] <G0WXI> !flights
[09:56] <SpacenearUS> 03G0WXI: Current flights: 03Miser1 10(fdb6), 03Basingstoke Sunrise Launch 10(4cc5), 03MM8 10(c489), 03SKYBLUE1 10(065f), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812), 03CAEN_CP1 10(41dd), 03XABEN-98 10(35a7), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[09:56] <G0WXI> !dial SKYBLUE
[09:56] <SpacenearUS> 03G0WXI: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[09:56] <nik996> I find the problem concerning the hub supplies board
[09:56] <G0WXI> !dial SKYBLUE1
[09:56] <SpacenearUS> 03G0WXI: Latest dials for 03SKYBLUE1 10(065f): 03434.6525 MHz, 434.1237 MHz, 434.65116 MHz, 434.45 MHz
[09:56] <AndyEsser> fsphil: yes, but not to my original plan
[09:57] <nik996> The ones I told you two days ago in this chat
[09:57] <SP9UOB-Tom> 34 Celcius, measured in the shadow...
[09:58] <nik996> The problem is the level shifter
[09:58] <nik996> It's fried
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[09:59] <DL1SGP> SP9UOB-Tom: we had that before... right now it cooled down and we are having thunderstorms in the area
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[10:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: I saw the massive thunderstorm yesterdays over DL
[10:01] <Upu> hey nik996
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[10:01] <Upu> is this the one you connected backwards ?
[10:01] <DL1SGP> heh I just postponed walking the dog due to thunderstorms SP9UOB-Tom
[10:01] <Upu> send it back to us I'll repair it for you
[10:02] <SP9UOB-Tom> The EU has now 1 GB of free space. ;-)
[10:03] Action: PE2BZ fried a HackRF and an Airspy experimenting with antennas and a not grounded power outlet for the computer....
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[10:03] <DL1SGP> outch PE2BZ you have expensive hobbys
[10:04] <nik996> OK maybe reply my email
[10:04] <nik996> I am nicolo.ghielmetti
[10:04] <Martin_G4FUI> Didn't Benjamin Franklin have a similar problem? :)
[10:05] <Upu> no problems nik996
[10:05] <SP9UOB-Tom> Martin_G4FUI: Beniamin Franklin also fried Airspy ;) ?
[10:05] <nik996> Many thanks
[10:06] <AndyEsser> tell you what, loving the extra 2 meters elevation I've given my antenna
[10:06] <AndyEsser> beautiful clear signal coming through
[10:06] <Martin_G4FUI> lol sp9uob!
[10:06] <AndyEsser> (not that dl-fldigi will both decoding it)
[10:06] <PE2BZ> DL1SPG indeed, but every now and then I inform the other hobbyists. And my airpsy was under warranty, but got lost in the mail in England. Have to wait 9 weeks for a refund.
[10:07] <PE2BZ> Benjamin Franklin invented my glasses. I am still thankfull for that ;-)
[10:07] <G3WDI> I get Implicit, 20.8k, SF6, EC4:5 too
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[10:08] <m0npt> awhats the exact frequency of skyblue1 anytone?
[10:08] <DL1SGP> !dial Skyblue1
[10:08] <SpacenearUS> 03DL1SGP: Latest dials for 03SKYBLUE1 10(065f): 03434.6 MHz, 434.652 MHz, 434.45 MHz, 434.652003 MHz, 434.6512 MHz, 434.65315 MHz
[10:08] <M0NRD> 432.6526 here
[10:09] <m0npt> thank you
[10:09] <M0NRD> 434 even
[10:09] <g8fjg> 434.652140 for 1khz centre
[10:09] <AndyEsser> M0NRD: 434.652 for me here
[10:09] <AndyEsser> m0npt: even...
[10:09] <SP9UOB-Tom> PE2BZ: Im the one on my street, who put lighting rods on my house :-)
[10:09] <g8fjg> +- 10 hz but drifting hf
[10:10] <AndyEsser> I'm really quite impressed I'm picking it up already :)
[10:10] <AndyEsser> and it's crystal clear
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[10:10] <AndyEsser> it even gets clear of the broad spectrum noise that floods the channel every few seconds
[10:10] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser good results !
[10:11] <g8fjg> AndyEsser where are you?
[10:11] <AndyEsser> Chester
[10:11] <AndyEsser> EADC on the map
[10:11] <g8fjg> ok
[10:11] <AndyEsser> I normally have to be much closer to the 0 degree marker when it's coming from this direction due to my house being in the way
[10:12] <AndyEsser> is SKYBLUE the one we were warned was going to be drifty?
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[10:13] <g8fjg> found you! shame on me looking for Chester in the wrong "place"
[10:13] <AndyEsser> sorry, should've said like North Wales
[10:13] <mfa298> AndyEsser: I think there's a few today that might be drifty
[10:14] <mfa298> One of both of the Elseworth ones could be as well
[10:14] <AndyEsser> ah yea, there's quite a few launches today isn't there
[10:14] <fsphil> busy up there
[10:15] <AndyEsser> maybe it's worth me routing the cabling properly into my office so I don't have to perch with my laptop on the cooker hob...
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[10:18] <DL1SGP> SP9UOB-Tom: heavy t-storm in my area right now (north of hannover if you look on blitzortung.org)
[10:18] <AndyEsser> times like this I'd really wished I still had Raspberry Pi :(
[10:18] <SP9UOB-Tom> all: what is the legal output power @434MHz in UK? I have written custom firmware for the viaisala RS41 radiosonde, and I want to bring some to the UKHAS conference
[10:19] <AndyEsser> ISM band is 10mW or 10% duty cycle I believe
[10:19] <AndyEsser> with a 10kHz bandwidth?
[10:19] Action: AndyEsser heads over to Wikipedia
[10:19] <SP9UOB-Tom> AndyEsser: RTTY, 100% duty
[10:19] <SP9UOB-Tom> AndyEsser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwfPR5c3YUA
[10:19] <daveake> varies - see IR2030
[10:20] <SP9UOB-Tom> just like RFM22/NTX transmitters
[10:27] <SP9UOB-Tom> daveake: looks like 10 mW
[10:27] <SP9UOB-Tom> IR2030/1/12
[10:27] <AndyEsser> gah, stop drifting!
[10:27] <SP9UOB-Tom> 2010/0168/UK
[10:27] <daveake> it's good practice :)
[10:27] <AndyEsser> daveake: I can't step away to make a coffee without coming back to see it's drifted :P
[10:27] <DL1SGP> relocate coffee-maker or ask kids/wife :P
[10:27] <SP9UOB-Tom> daveake: ok then. I'll prepare a few sondes for conference :-)
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[10:27] <mfa298> AndyEsser: if you've got AFC on it should keep with the drift (until it goes off the screen)
[10:27] <AndyEsser> DL1SGP: have no kids/wife to do that
[10:27] <AndyEsser> DL1SGP: and I'm already in the kitchen, can't really get much closer :)
[10:27] <SP9UOB-Tom> beleive me or not, but they are just falling from the sky ;-)
[10:27] <mfa298> then you just need to have rigcat setup and working with the radio/sdr (assuming the radio/sdr supports it)
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[10:27] <DL1SGP> hmm AndyEsser ...
[10:27] <AndyEsser> mfa298: AFC is on, but I'm going to need to retune SDR# soon
[10:27] <g8fjg> is the lora gateway ok ..perm Habitat displayed
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[10:27] <AndyEsser> right, shoved it right back down the bottom of the tuning window, should give me a bit of time
[10:27] <daveake> yeah it may not be able to upload every packet, but it should be OK
[10:27] <JonnyAlpha> Drove out to nice high spot in North Devon, NO INTERNET!!
[10:27] <mfa298> AndyEsser: that's where sdr-radio might come in useful, I think you can link that to dl-fldigi with rigcat to dl-fldigi will retune for you.
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[10:27] <AndyEsser> Yea, if only we could get nice open fields, with little wind, but full bars of 4g :)
[10:27] <AndyEsser> mfa298: I want to look at a more permanent setup soon, probably something like a Pi, with a dongle, up with the antenna, mounted on the chimney
[10:27] <AndyEsser> and have it auto tuning to flights, and the NOAA passes
[10:27] <JonnyAlpha> AndyEsser - Kevin Bacon needs to sort his act out (Im on EE) normally pretty good!!
[10:28] <AndyEsser> signals fading for me :(
[10:28] <AndyEsser> JonnyAlpha: ordered an EE business phone last
[10:28] <SP9UOB-Tom> AndyEsser: http://sp9uob.verox.pl/LoRa/lora-outdoor.jpg
[10:28] <AndyEsser> "great, we'll send you a text message with the dispatch details"
[10:28] <AndyEsser> Err... 1 what if I didn't already have a mobile to receive the text
[10:28] <SP9UOB-Tom> AndyEsser: http://sp9uob.verox.pl/LoRa/lora-gateway-inside.jpg
[10:28] <AndyEsser> 2... you didn't ask me for an address
[10:29] <AndyEsser> SP9UOB-Tom: yea, something like that :)
[10:29] <Martin_G4FUI> Looks like rain soon on that photo Tom!!
[10:29] <AndyEsser> although it might make sense to have the actual receivers in my spare room/new office
[10:29] <AndyEsser> for easy access
[10:29] <SP9UOB-Tom> AndyEsser: its thunderstorm-proof
[10:30] <AndyEsser> SP9UOB-Tom: more so I can easily access it, rather than needing to IP67 it or anything :)
[10:30] <SP9UOB-Tom> AndyEsser: ethernet via fiberoptics and power trough 15kV separated DC/DC converter
[10:30] <AndyEsser> nice
[10:30] <AndyEsser> if the Uni ever get back to me about renting office/workshop space
[10:30] <AndyEsser> I'll make sure I can mount a nice assembly on the roof
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[10:32] <g8fjg> RTLS1 seems caught in a time warp 10:22,51
[10:33] <AndyEsser> Lets do the time warp again...
[10:33] <g8fjg> my favourite
[10:34] <Upu> daveake: RTLS flight mode ?
[10:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> dont look like it, dreded 12000 gps lockout
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[10:34] <Mark_B> Good morning
[10:35] <AndyEsser> !dial SKYBLUE1
[10:35] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Latest dials for 03SKYBLUE1 10(065f): 03434.652888 MHz, 434.65126 MHz, 434.6525 MHz, 434.45 MHz, 434.653 MHz
[10:36] <Mark_B> Quick update re today's MM8 launch - intent is now to launch between 1300-1400 local. Up/20km/down
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[10:40] <daveake> hrum
[10:40] <daveake> well it is a test :/
[10:41] <pjm> morning chaps - there is a signal at 434.448 which exhibits fading etc, is this also from the same payload as 434.651 ?
[10:41] <AndyEsser> daveake: well as a test, it's the most successful for me in terms of RXing :)
[10:41] <Upu> its lora pjm
[10:43] <pjm> upu ahh ok cool - i must get my act together on that front - btw LNA is working super well on this
[10:43] <Upu> cool
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[10:49] <JonnyAlpha> I have moved loc and am picking up a booming signal 434.6520, cannot decode?
[10:49] <JonnyAlpha> 50 baud 7 n 2?
[10:49] <pb0ahx> 50bd 550 shift
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[10:50] <pb0ahx> 7n2
[10:51] <JonnyAlpha> Mmm fldigi cannot decode and wont auto config to SKYBLUE?
[10:51] <mfa298> you need to adjust the shift after autoconfig
[10:51] <Martin_G4FUI> I'm finding the signal a bit jittery, so taking the rx bw filter out of auto and increasing it significantly has improved decodability with me
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[10:51] <JonnyAlpha> auto config is greyed out for this flight?
[10:52] <AndyEsser> JonnyAlpha: time for some manual config
[10:52] <JonnyAlpha> oops changed payload to skyblue and auto config came back
[10:52] <daveake> for rtls1 is as that's lora
[10:52] <PE2BZ> RTLS1 also in LoRa 10:51:44 Ch0: $$RTLS1,5814,10:22:58,51.74359,-2.30717,12098,33,126,0,0.0,-20...
[10:52] <daveake> skyblue1 autoconfigures but the shift is wrong
[10:53] <AndyEsser> daveake: suppose that's not as bad as the freq being wrong :)
[10:54] <JonnyAlpha> i have 434.6522
[10:54] <JonnyAlpha> cant get a waterfall?
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[10:55] <PE2BZ> daveake good afternoon (over here it is...) if I have 2 434 MHz modules on the Pits board, and 2 different antenna´s to each antenna connector, and I set both for the same frequency and mode, both should pick up the signal I assume ?
[10:56] <Upu> yup
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[10:56] <JonnyAlpha> changed freq on my aor to 434.6526 now receiving and have just uploaded a good telemetry checksum?
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[10:56] <PE2BZ> then my vertical TV yagi outperforms my Diamond colineair ....
[10:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RPF-C2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RPF-C2
[10:57] <JonnyAlpha> Using a hand held DIY Yagi and picking up my first ever (someone elses flight) :_)
[10:57] <AndyEsser> congrats :)
[10:58] <DL1SGP> Woot JonnyAlpha
[10:58] <JonnyAlpha> No green line to me yet??
[10:59] <mfa298> JonnyAlpha: you can see how your doing on http://habitat.habhub.org/stats/ select flight list then the flight you want stats for
[10:59] <Upu> great stuff JonnyAlpha
[11:00] <mfa298> if your CAEN_MC1 you've uploaded 5 strings already :)
[11:00] <JonnyAlpha> 5 strings oh yeh Im the man!!
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[11:01] <pjm> i'm using 500hz shift, and 150hz filter b/w for mark/space
[11:03] Action: PE2BZ has taken a wrong conclusion. The Diamond Colineair is connected to CE0 and has much better reception. -1 for the TV yagi, with 0 packets
[11:03] <AndyEsser> JonnyAlpha: green line only appears if you decode the last packet displayed on the map
[11:04] <AndyEsser> I believe
[11:04] <JonnyAlpha> Ah I thought it just meant you wernt being picked up as a listener which I clearly am.
[11:04] <SA6BSS-Mike> allways green if checkdsum ads up
[11:04] <DL1SGP> green appears if decoded telemetry was matching the checksum
[11:05] <AndyEsser> DL1SGP: I meant on the map
[11:05] <AndyEsser> not the checksum bit in fldigi
[11:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> ahh, yes, correct
[11:05] <JonnyAlpha> I have just changed Antenna to a roof mounted thingy with a coil in the antenna at the base - getting a booming signal from North Devon!!
[11:05] <AndyEsser> woo, over 100 packets for me :)
[11:06] <DL1SGP> ah sorry AndyEsser :) Green line to your tower appears if you decoded last packet shown successfully and uploaded it to habhub :)
[11:06] <AndyEsser> my daveake kind of makes that look pathetic
[11:06] <AndyEsser> mr*
[11:06] <mfa298> He did have the advantage of receiving data for a long time whist it was on the ground :p
[11:07] <AndyEsser> true
[11:07] <AndyEsser> :)
[11:07] <JonnyAlpha> One of these I think? http://www.radioworld.co.uk/mr-77_2m_70cm_70w_50cm_long_black_metal_whip_magmount_4m_cable_with_pl-259_plug?gclid=Cj0KEQjw17i7BRC7toz5g5DM0tsBEiQAIt7nLNgdXgIzsvbDgVBl7z7lAnjVm-64BNvvxUDRbUUJ_rsaAiZP8P8HAQ
[11:08] <AndyEsser> hmm, not sure how confident I feel leaving the antenna up when I head out this afternoon :(
[11:08] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser show us how it´s mounted ;-)
[11:08] <JonnyAlpha> Not bad considering its about 100 miles away :-)
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[11:11] <Upu> interesting time just updated on RTSL
[11:12] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: http://imgur.com/6NicrfM
[11:14] <DL1SGP> is RTLS1 going to glide down with the servos trying to aim it for a specific target?
[11:17] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser black tyraps are UV resistant ;-) If there is no > 7 bft planned I would trust you mechanical construction. To make it a little more secure you could add one or more hose clamps. That hold my balcony antenna for the first 2 years
[11:18] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: I'm more worried about the wooden 2x2 at the bottom snapping in wind
[11:19] <PE2BZ> If RTLS1 and Bluesky are attached than the telemetrie for RTLS1 in LoRa is not ok ?
[11:19] <AndyEsser> the whole antenna does wobble a fair bit - although I know the X50 is rated to like 120 mph winds
[11:19] <AndyEsser> or something stupid like that
[11:19] <AndyEsser> 135 mph*
[11:19] <PE2BZ> I would guess the X50 catches more pigeons than wind...
[11:20] <AndyEsser> to be honest, my only real concern if it does collapse is taking those telephone wires for neighbours with it
[11:22] <AndyEsser> woo, signal is up to -20dB in SDR#, nice and clean :)
[11:23] <PE2BZ> I could not tell the distance between antenna and telephone wire...
[11:23] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: if the antenna falls towards the camera, it'll easily land on those wires
[11:24] <AndyEsser> they're only about a metre above my head when stood directly underneath them :(
[11:24] <PE2BZ> Can you limit it with a rope attached to the bottom of the antenna ? That it can only fall vertically ?
[11:25] <AndyEsser> possibly, I might dig out some twine and run three support lines to it from about 120 separation to give it some extra support
[11:26] <JonnyAlpha> Is SKYBLUE sending anyn pics?
[11:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BACON_Chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BACON_Chase
[11:28] <pb0ahx> $$$$$SKYBLUE1,662,11:27:20,0.000000,0.000000,28770,3,-14*E471
[11:28] <AndyEsser> ha, nice name
[11:28] <mfa298> shame it doesn't match the colour of the actual sky :(
[11:28] <AndyEsser> mfa298: clear blue skies here :)
[11:28] <AndyEsser> can we rename this payload to Drifty McDriftface?
[11:29] <mfa298> if you think this is drifty we need to find some of the other old payloads
[11:30] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser they used to sell aluminim extendable masts over here for holiday antennas, about 30 pound for 3 * 1.5 meter. Like this http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/26ft-telescopic-aluminium-antenna-mast-n24kt
[11:30] <AndyEsser> I think I should just shut up and be grateful for what we have :)
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[11:30] <AndyEsser> did you just knowingly link Maplin?!
[11:30] <PE2BZ> Yes, is that forbidden ?
[11:30] <AndyEsser> completely lost payload now :(
[11:31] <AndyEsser> ah there we go
[11:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0RPI_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0RPI_chase
[11:32] <AndyEsser> daveake: predicted burst alt?
[11:32] <daveake> Expected burst 37km btw
[11:33] <daveake> Typed that before I saw the question :)
[11:33] <AndyEsser> heh
[11:33] <daveake> 1600g Hwoyee, H2, 1200g in 2 payloads
[11:33] <AndyEsser> should be done by the time I need to retune then
[11:34] <PE2BZ> andyesser http://www.campertv.nl/nl/product/ct-1021-uitschuifmast-voor-ct-1024ct-1029/#prettyPhoto
[11:34] <PE2BZ> 2m40 and you can shift it in when there is a storm coming close
[11:34] <AndyEsser> guess I'd best hurry and order that before trade tariffs come in :P
[11:34] <AndyEsser> #topical
[11:35] <AndyEsser> I'm going to hold off buying any more stuff until at least August and put it all through the company
[11:35] <AndyEsser> then it'll be full speed ahead again on my own HAB and get a launch this year
[11:36] <mfa298> should have a couple of years at least
[11:36] <AndyEsser> try and get me that Return to Sender achievement :)
[11:36] <JonnyAlpha> just switched to my RTL SDR with HabAmp -29dB in dl-fldigi?
[11:36] <AndyEsser> mfa298: yea I know
[11:36] <AndyEsser> just being whiney
[11:36] <mfa298> or 4 years if the leave people get what they seem to want
[11:36] <daveake> You can put setup costs through anyway, even if they're before the company exists
[11:36] <daveake> Ditto VAT
[11:36] <mfa298> hmmm, think I should probably stoptrying to track this.
[11:37] <AndyEsser> daveake: yep, I know, but it requires money :)
[11:37] <mfa298> bright lights in the sky and static bursts on the radio :(
[11:37] <daveake> true
[11:37] <AndyEsser> I'm basically on a spending freeze until the first 2 invoices get paid
[11:37] <AndyEsser> in case the contract is terminated early etc
[11:37] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser just buy from us ;-) http://www.elektrodump.nl/nl/schuifmast-klikmast-stapelmast/1862-glasfiber-stapelmast-set-3-delig-klikmast-schuifmast.html
[11:37] <PE2BZ> 6 pieces, which you can stack as much as you need.
[11:38] <AndyEsser> bookmarked :)
[11:39] <mfa298> AndyEsser: look up the list of radio rallies, you can often pick up various masts and other useful (or interesting) bits.
[11:39] <JonnyAlpha> Frequency for SKYBLUE with my SDR is 434.650700
[11:40] <JonnyAlpha> You really have to retune for different devices dont you?
[11:40] <AndyEsser> mfa298: yea, trying to avoid those :P
[11:40] <daveake> If you think the NTX2 is bad, try an RFM22B
[11:41] <mfa298> lots of places to spend your money http://rsgb.org/main/news/rallies/
[11:41] <AndyEsser> is there an SDR program that can have multiple tuning windows?
[11:41] <AndyEsser> mfa298: STAHP
[11:41] <AndyEsser> :)
[11:41] <JonnyAlpha> Getting a good checksum with the SDR connected via habamp to the Yagi
[11:42] <daveake> Yes, but I forget which one
[11:42] <mfa298> AndyEsser: sdr-radio (also can do the rigcat auto tuning although I've not tried that)
[11:42] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser SDRConsole can, a least 4 from one RTL dongle
[11:42] <AndyEsser> nice
[11:42] <PE2BZ> V3 can do 10, but I would yet stay on V2
[11:42] <mfa298> should be able to get 6 on V2 I think
[11:42] <g8fjg> Depending where you are the new beacon GB3UHF is on 432.430200 gps derived
[11:43] <AndyEsser> who maintains the script that populates the UKHAS conference attendee list?
[11:43] <daveake> For Skycademy last year I was running out of screen real estate - 5 SDR windows, 5 copies of dl-flgidi, and 5 LoRa gateway putty sessions
[11:43] <AndyEsser> ha
[11:43] <PE2BZ> mfa298 you´re right, but I am unable to keep my view concentrated on more than 4 :-)
[11:43] <daveake> This year it's 6 launches :/
[11:43] <PE2BZ> Only 6 ? ;-)
[11:44] <PE2BZ> Can FLDIGI use the AFC to tune the CAT controlled rig also ?
[11:44] <JonnyAlpha> daveake CozyCave RTL820 with a Upu HabAmp on Skyblue
[11:44] <AndyEsser> burst
[11:45] <AndyEsser> or not
[11:45] <AndyEsser> ...
[11:45] <daveake> don't do that
[11:45] <AndyEsser> ignor eme :)
[11:45] <AndyEsser> sorry
[11:45] <mfa298> PE2BZ: there's a setting for it to retune if it goes too low/high onthe waterfall
[11:45] <daveake> It's OK but for those launching it can be alarming
[11:45] <daveake> So take care to be right :)
[11:45] <mfa298> on the DL Client/Enable screen
[11:46] <PE2BZ> mfa298 thanks !
[11:46] <AndyEsser> daveake: apologies
[11:47] <daveake> np just remember for next time :)
[11:47] <JonnyAlpha> Just tried the CozyCave SDR wiithout the HabAmp and still showing between 22 and 27 dB but it jumps between those figures, is that a good s/n dB
[11:48] <daveake> It usually puts chase teams into panic mode
[11:48] <JonnyAlpha> now at 30dB?
[11:49] <AndyEsser> daveake: well I wouldn't want that :)
[11:49] <AndyEsser> although....
[11:50] <PE2BZ> mfa298 makes life more nice... Autotune is on !
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[11:53] <pb0ahx> SKYBLUE now for me 500 km nice
[11:54] <pb0ahx> poof
[11:57] <AndyEsser> wonder what altitude I'll lose it
[11:58] <pb0ahx> 35.574
[11:58] <AndyEsser> the NTX2 is the one that doesn't have the TCXO?
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[12:07] <JonnyAlpha> Lost SKYBLUE at about 13,000m still got audio but not enough to decode. Happy eith the results today though - happy chasing :-)
[12:08] <AndyEsser> Yea, I can still hear it by ear, but fldigi is really struggling
[12:08] <AndyEsser> getting sentences, but very incomplete
[12:08] <AndyEsser> and it's gone now
[12:08] <JonnyAlpha> AndyEsser whats your location?
[12:08] <AndyEsser> although can see the LORA crystal clear
[12:09] <AndyEsser> JonnyAlpha: Chester, near North Wales
[12:09] <AndyEsser> o no, RTTY is back :)
[12:10] <JonnyAlpha> I found a nice open hill in North Devon South of Combe Martin with 3G :-) Good spot for listening to this flight.
[12:10] <AndyEsser> nice
[12:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> prog: fyi , my airspy mini bias-tee stopped working after a few week, turns out the inductor feeding the power to center pin had a bad solder, resoldered it and it now works great again! you can see the it here http://imgur.com/TM1Kjv9
[12:11] <AndyEsser> quite impressed with how clear the LORA stuff is when RTTY has basically died
[12:11] <AndyEsser> maybe I need to jump on the lora bandwagon
[12:11] <JonnyAlpha> packing up now - late lunch - brought a flask but no sarnies :-)
[12:11] <SA6BSS-Mike> if you here anyone else having thsi problem it might be this faulting http://imgur.com/TM1Kjv9
[12:12] <AndyEsser> 27 mins until my NOAA pass
[12:12] <JonnyAlpha> I bought two Lora Boards but not ghad a chance to use them yet, thinking of making a mobile Raspberry Pi tracker for the car?
[12:13] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike good catch. Glad you did not send it back ?
[12:13] <AndyEsser> calling it now, not going to get any more RTTY from it
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[12:14] <SA6BSS-Mike> this was a easy fault, I should probably have rebult it with my own bias-tee if I had not got it going
[12:16] <g8fjg> got LoRa decodes at -0.3 deg
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[12:19] <JDat> Hello there!
[12:19] <JDat> does anybody ose 1200 bit/sec for downlink?
[12:20] <JDat> Is it possible to receive 1200 bit/sec data with dl-fldigi ?
[12:20] <JDat> Any expierence ?
[12:20] <SA6BSS-Mike> I think dl7ad uses 9600 for his ssdv floaters, special receiver software
[12:21] <mfa298> I'm not sure anyones tried 1200bd rtty on a flight althoguh it might work
[12:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Miser1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Miser1
[12:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MM8 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MM8
[12:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> not going to get a good range but it should work
[12:24] <JDat> I tested 50 vs 300 bit/sec
[12:24] <DL7AD> SA6BSS-Mike: kinda... i use 9k6 APRS/SDDV but for my floaters i use 1k2 APRS/SSDV. same protocol, but different modulation.
[12:24] <SA6BSS-Mike> ah, there u go :)
[12:24] <DL7AD> JDat SA6BSS-Mike: but i use AFSK for APRS instead of 2FSK
[12:24] <JDat> With long telementry data 50 bit/sec take ~ 20 seconds for packet, while 300 bit/sec take only 4 sec.
[12:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W3EAX-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W3EAX-12
[12:25] <JDat> Long packet have more chances to get corrupt packet :(
[12:25] <JDat> So I want to move to higher baud rates.
[12:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W3EAX-10 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W3EAX-10
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[12:26] <JDat> Si4012 transmitter chip looks like fine, but minimum FSK deviation is ~ 1.2 KHz.
[12:27] <JDat> So That is reason for questions regarding dl-fldigi and 1.2 kHz bandwith for reciveing.
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[12:27] <JDat> And at the same time increased baudrate for data.
[12:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> dlfldigi does decode 1200b so go for it, u be the first to try it on a hab I belive
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[12:29] <qyx> deviation is not the same as baudrate
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[12:30] <JDat> yes, it's not.
[12:31] <JDat> It's no a problem with baudrate, it's more aboud deviation (carrier shift).
[12:31] <mfa298> I'm not sure you can set the shift in dl-fldigi above 1KHz without modification
[12:31] <JDat> Any alternative software with habhub.org support?
[12:32] <JDat> I mean: any software (win+linux) that can send data to habhub server (and map).
[12:33] <mfa298> if it's 50/300 baud mattbrejza's java decoder may work, I don;t know what limits that has on carrier shift
[12:34] <qyx> btw, just curious, what do you plan to use to drive the Si4012?
[12:34] <JDat> qyx: Atmega328P or similar mcu.
[12:37] <mfa298> I wonder how wise a higher baud rate like that is, whilst it gets you data more often getting good decodes from higher baud rates can be harder
[12:37] <AndyEsser> 2 mins until NOAA satellite pass :)
[12:38] <JDat> That is why I want to test something new.
[12:39] <mfa298> whilst it's not open (boo) lora is the tried and tested way of getting higher date rates if you actually need it
[12:40] <Chimpusmaximus> Elsworth is starting to get ready
[12:41] <g8fjg> noaa freq?
[12:41] <AndyEsser> 137.100
[12:41] <AndyEsser> 34kHz bandwidth
[12:42] <g8fjg> ta
[12:43] <JDat> With lora (an other new techologies) there are problem: radio amateurs can decode data with RTL-SDR (or trancever) and dl-fldigi software.
[12:43] <AndyEsser> g8fjg: where are you located?
[12:43] <JDat> I am seeking for software, what is easy to use for non IT-guys.
[12:44] <mfa298> JDat: the only things I know of that will talk to habhub are dl-fldigi, the lora gateway code and the java decoder, or import from aprs
[12:44] <g8fjg> east london ...thunder just started
[12:44] <JDat> meaning: windows laptop and simple software.
[12:44] <mfa298> so if you want something else you're going to have to write it yourself
[12:45] <JDat> soundmodem.exe + costum scipts looks promising is there is AX.25 on air.
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[12:46] <JDat> custom*
[12:46] <mfa298> JDat: depends where you are.
[12:46] <AndyEsser> NOAA sounds kind of nice :)
[12:46] <PE2BZ> !payload Miser1
[12:46] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03Miser1 10(fdb6) 03$$Miser1 - no transmissions
[12:46] <JDat> Am aproox on 56°562563N 24°62233E
[12:47] <PE2BZ> !flights
[12:47] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03Miser1 10(fdb6), 03Basingstoke Sunrise Launch 10(4cc5), 03MM8 10(c489), 03SKYBLUE1 10(065f), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812), 03CAEN_CP1 10(41dd), 03XABEN-98 10(35a7), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[12:47] <mfa298> JDat: there's lots of APRS around, but it requires an amateur radio license to transmit sensibly, and isn't allowed airborne in some palces
[12:48] <JDat> Yes, I know. :(
[12:49] <JDat> Im thinking about costum data (actually habhub compatible packet) encapulated in AX.25 on 70cm band.
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[12:50] <g8fjg> AndyEsser : can see noaa no probs, lightning nearer...I might run away soon
[12:51] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/JfN8uAC
[12:51] <AndyEsser> can't complain too much at that I don't think
[12:53] <g8fjg> remember back in 70's watching on a long persistance green scope
[12:53] <g8fjg> prob not noaa but similar
[12:54] <g8fjg> time to dis antennas and run
[12:54] <AndyEsser> heh
[12:54] <AndyEsser> shame I didn't pickup the storm in my pic :(
[12:55] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser nice results !
[12:55] <PE2BZ> !payload Miser1
[12:55] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03Miser1 10(fdb6) 03$$Miser1 - no transmissions
[12:58] <PE2BZ> Next pass in 102 minutes ;-)
[12:59] <AndyEsser> I shall be in the cinema
[12:59] <AndyEsser> although I guess I could probably spend 20-30 mins running the cabling into my office and set it up to just auto-record permanently
[13:00] <AndyEsser> fsphil: I can see your house :)
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[13:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1YIP-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1YIP-11
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[13:06] <JonnyAlpha> Back home for lunch. I see 0x17 also relocated this morning to Exmoor leaving 0x17_pi at home need to talk to you at some point?
[13:08] <qyx> AndyEsser: what antenna do you use to receive those noaa images?
[13:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03X7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=X7
[13:08] <AndyEsser> qyx: just my Diamond X50
[13:08] <AndyEsser> it's not ideal as it should really be circular polarised
[13:08] <AndyEsser> might fashion myself a specific Turnstile one for this
[13:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD8NZZ-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD8NZZ-11
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[13:09] <AndyEsser> https://twitter.com/uhf_satcom/status/746607060670877696/photo/1
[13:09] <AndyEsser> this guy gets significantly better pics than me :)
[13:09] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser http://imgur.com/0ahDTyn
[13:09] <PE2BZ> Just the other way round. Grab an image of the satellite :-)
[13:09] <AndyEsser> haha
[13:09] <AndyEsser> "It's there somewhere!"
[13:09] <PE2BZ> At the bottom you can see my V-2000 diamond
[13:10] <AndyEsser> Yea, thought that's what it was
[13:10] <AndyEsser> is that the 2m,70cm,35cm one?
[13:10] <PE2BZ> A leftover HD fixed camera from the job. Someone drove into it, the housing broke.
[13:10] <PE2BZ> No, 6m, 2m, 70 cm
[13:11] <PE2BZ> To the right is the long element for the 6 m
[13:11] <AndyEsser> that's it, my bad :)
[13:11] <PE2BZ> And the camera has lens setup to focus after it´s mounted. Let´s see what a dark night brings...
[13:12] <PE2BZ> And now, to the cinema you go !
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[13:12] <AndyEsser> o crap, yes
[13:13] <AndyEsser> ta for the reminder :)
[13:13] <PE2BZ> NP
[13:14] <JonnyAlpha> SKYBLUE Chase teams - how areyou getting on?
[13:14] <AndyEsser> lets hope my PVC pipe holding the antenna doesn't snap whislt I'm out
[13:18] <JDat> What about: http://pythonhosted.org/habitat/
[13:18] <JDat> Is it working and ready to use?
[13:20] <JonnyAlpha> Skyblue looks to be in amongst a few trees at the corner f a woods?
[13:20] <Jerry_> !dial miser1
[13:20] <SpacenearUS> 03Jerry_: Latest dials for 03Miser1 10(fdb6): none
[13:21] <PE2BZ> !payload MM8
[13:21] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03MM8 10(c489) 03$$MM8 - 03Primary - 03434.651 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/450Hz ASCII-7 none 2
[13:21] <PE2BZ> MM8 is up
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[13:23] <mattbrejza> hmm glad we laucnhed in the morning considerign the weather now
[13:25] <JonnyAlpha> Have you recovered SKYBLUE yet?
[13:25] <PE2BZ> Is MM8 intended to float ?
[13:26] <g8fjg> back ............but may be premature !!!
[13:26] <g8fjg> I'll just leave
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[13:31] <PE2BZ> !dial MM8
[13:31] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03MM8 10(c489): 031 MHz, 434.65354 MHz, 434.6528 MHz, 434.65298 MHz
[13:31] <mfa298> g8fjg: if you're getting the weather a bit after here you might see a few blue patches of sky, then more rain and thunder
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[13:45] <mattbrejza> we got some good gps traces from earlier with the high update rate http://imgur.com/ICCAxIk
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[13:47] <mattbrejza> normal resolution http://i.imgur.com/nDqpgZo.png
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[13:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE5LWQ-13 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE5LWQ-13
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[13:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE5QVG-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE5QVG-12
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[14:09] <G3WDI> !dial X7
[14:09] <SpacenearUS> 03G3WDI: Latest dials for 03X7 10(35a7): 03434.64984 MHz, 434.6497 MHz, 644.297 MHz, 434.650482 MHz, 434.649982 MHz
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[14:15] <fsphil> AndyEsser: nice!
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[14:20] <fsphil> !track X7
[14:20] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=X7
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[14:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CT1EUS-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CT1EUS-11
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[15:05] <mattbrejza> anyone whos coming to emf - its currently lacking hab talks/workshops...
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[15:10] <daveake> Skyblue1 recovered a short while ago. Wonderfully helpful couple who owned the land and came out with us to help.
[15:10] <PE2BZ> Very nice !
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[15:10] <G0WXI> !dial mm8
[15:10] <SpacenearUS> 03G0WXI: Latest dials for 03MM8 10(c489): 03434.65298 MHz, 434.65354 MHz
[15:11] <PE2BZ> mm8 is almost down.
[15:11] <daveake> Chase bus on its way home; Julie and I have stopped at Monmouth to eat lunch by the river.
[15:11] <G0WXI> !dial x7
[15:11] <SpacenearUS> 03G0WXI: Latest dials for 03X7 10(35a7): 03434.648 MHz, 434.650982 MHz, 434.650633 MHz, 434.6502 MHz, 644.297 MHz
[15:12] <PE2BZ> Enjoy ! (and congratulations !)
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[15:21] <PE1ANS> !flights
[15:21] <SpacenearUS> 03PE1ANS: Current flights: 03Miser1 10(fdb6), 03Basingstoke Sunrise Launch 10(4cc5), 03MM8 10(c489), 03SKYBLUE1 10(065f), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812), 03CAEN_CP1 10(41dd), 03XABEN-98 10(35a7), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[15:22] <PE1ANS> !dial X
[15:22] <SpacenearUS> 03PE1ANS: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[15:23] <PE1ANS> !dial x7
[15:23] <SpacenearUS> 03PE1ANS: Latest dials for 03X7 10(35a7): 03434.651 MHz, 434.64981 MHz, 434.648 MHz, 434.650481 MHz, 434.650633 MHz, 434.65078 MHz, 434.6502 MHz, 434.65052 MHz, 644.297 MHz
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[16:34] <fsphil> no sign of x7 here. need higher antenna
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[16:39] <PE2BZ> x7 is nice and slowly rising. What is your antenna conditions Phil ?
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[16:42] <fsphil> far from ideal. looking at alternatives
[16:42] <Mark_B> Good afternoon
[16:43] <Ian_> AndyEsser, your question wasn't answered re the UKHAS Conference : Last modified: 2016/06/23 19:05 by danielsaul
[16:45] <Ian_> I think that a link to the document could be put into the top of the #highaltitude page and it needs a daily update if new attendees have registered.
[16:45] <PE2BZ> fsphil can I take some time for a pits / tracker question ?
[16:46] <Mark_B> MM8 was a short notice flight today and I made a last minute 'in-the-field' 2kHz freq change to deconflict. Thanks everyone who kindly helped with tracking. Payload recovered successfully :)
[16:46] <Mark_B> end trans
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[16:52] <RocketBoy> now float
[16:55] <garymortimer> climb!
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[17:11] <SA6BSS-Mike> !dial X7
[17:11] <SpacenearUS> 03SA6BSS-Mike: Latest dials for 03X7 10(35a7): 03434.650771 MHz, 434.64981 MHz, 434.65052 MHz, 434.64968 MHz, 434.650633 MHz, 434.6501 MHz, 434.650481 MHz, 434.651 MHz, 434.65078 MHz
[17:15] <M0XIN> NO entry for X7 in dl-fldigi?
[17:16] <SA6BSS-Mike> 434.650
[17:17] <M0XIN> Modes?
[17:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> Xaben 98
[17:17] <M0XIN> Ah, got it - thanks
[17:22] <fsphil> right, relocated to spiderland. aka the attic
[17:23] <M0XIN> Hmmm... too weak for me to receive here
[17:23] <fsphil> huh, airspy not working
[17:23] <M0XIN> Coming through loud and clear for everyone else?
[17:23] <fsphil> PE2BZ: sure, but I'm not too familiar with pits
[17:25] Action: M0XIN looks at habhub and answers his own question :)
[17:25] <PE2BZ> Ok. I run the tracker, I fool the software by setting camera to USB and not connect a camera. I manually (wget ) an image to the directory. The trackers notices there is a ssdv.jpg (I used that filename) and then says SSDV_done_3 found and does not convert the image to a bin. Is that out of your ¨circle of influence¨ ?
[17:26] <PE2BZ> X7 is 21 dB S/N over her in the Netherlands. 31.200 meter height, 2097 km distance
[17:28] <g8fjg> lightning crashes up cambridge way now affecting decodes
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[17:33] <fsphil> PE2BZ: does the image meet the ssdv restrictions? (jpeg, dimensions divisable by 16, yuv, progressive)
[17:34] <fsphil> if you try to run the ssdv encoder on it in the command line, you should see if it's happy with it or not
[17:35] <fsphil> ssdv -e image.jpeg image.bin
[17:36] <PE2BZ> fsphil I guess you hit the nail on the head. I will give it a try.
[17:39] <fsphil> woo, I can hear X7
[17:39] <PE2BZ> If I fall offline I´ll be back. My PC is trying to make a movie out of > 20.000 jpg images. I have to type slow at this moment.
[17:40] <M0XIN> Only just audible over on the SUWS websdr
[17:40] <fsphil> quite weak here too, compiling dl-fldigi to see if it can decode
[17:40] <fsphil> the joys of OS upgrades
[17:40] <M0XIN> "joys"
[17:41] <fsphil> hah
[17:42] <fsphil> the signal sounds fine, not drifting at all
[17:44] <fsphil> oh great, obscure C++ compile error
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[17:48] <PA0RPA> Here in Bergen op Zoom is X7 very good to read. s/n ca. 21 dB. Very good modulated and stable. Congratulations to the team. !!
[17:50] <fsphil> hey did it just jump up in frequency?
[17:51] <g8fjg> wasnt me
[17:52] <g8fjg> yes it did, made me jump
[17:53] <fsphil> anyone seen this before: error: cannot convert std::basic_istream<char> to bool in return
[17:53] <fsphil> compiling navtex.cxx in fldigi
[17:55] <PA0RPA> saw X7 also jumping in frequency. AFC could not follow it. Now ok again.
[17:56] <qyx> any recommended rtl sdr spectrum viewer for android?
[17:56] <PE2BZ> for me sdr touch works ok
[17:57] <fsphil> just commented out the navtex lines with the errors ... :)
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[17:58] <PE2BZ> fsphil +1 for you ! http://pastebin.com/8t3Qesme
[18:01] <PE0SAT> Good afternoon - Solid signal on X7 in the south part of The Netherlands
[18:01] <fsphil> woo, decoded a string
[18:01] <fsphil> PE2BZ: nice! easy solved
[18:02] <qyx> PE2BZ: it looks like the free version doesn't allow me to change the freespace
[18:02] <qyx> *freq
[18:03] <PE2BZ> qyx if I recall right, the problem is that on the right side you can scroll the menu up and down and somewhere there you can drag for the frequency setting.
[18:05] <fsphil> 417km distance
[18:05] <fsphil> not bad for an attic antenna
[18:05] <PE2BZ> fsphil the camera lets me even grab an image in 1280 * 720 which are multiples of 16. However, with the line wget http:\\109.109.112.170:10000/snap.jpg?JpegSize=L wget does not act like creating an image . But I have another 720 p camera around for testing....
[18:06] Action: PE2BZ now first has to find out where the Pi is hiding 2 GB of files....
[18:10] <fsphil> 410km now, it's already 7km closer
[18:11] <fsphil> RocketBoy: are you cutting it down, or leaving it to float?
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[18:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Hi, what freq is X7 on?
[18:12] <fsphil> ~434.650
[18:12] <RocketBoy> if it makes it, it sjhoul
[18:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Hi Phil, thanks
[18:12] <RocketBoy> should cut down at -3deg
[18:12] <daveake> When I looked a few minutes ago, it was with the SDR passband, which I'd set this morning for SKYBLUE1
[18:12] <PE0SAT> elevation is dropping from 2.5 to 2.3 the last 15 minutes
[18:13] <fsphil> 2.8 here atm
[18:15] <PE2BZ> PE0SAT dropping ? with a balloon still climbing ? I am confused...
[18:15] <M0XIN> Hmmm
[18:15] <M0XIN> Clicking lower down on the waterfall in dl-fldigi just pings the cursor back up the waterfall?
[18:16] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i think he means antenna elevation
[18:16] <fsphil> M0XIN: sounds like you have auto-retune enabled
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[18:16] <PE0SAT> PE2BZ: fldigi showing it is going down
[18:16] <fsphil> dl client > Frequency Tracking. check that's not enabled
[18:17] <PE0SAT> or drifting away from my location
[18:17] <fsphil> sdr'ing uses a lot of battery
[18:17] <PE2BZ> PE0SAT but does not seem to be bursted
[18:17] <M0XIN> fsphil: It was - thanks! :)
[18:18] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PE0SAT dont you mean your antenna elevation is droppong, because its moving to the west
[18:18] <PE0SAT> that is what I mean by "or drifting away from my location"
[18:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-1 after 037 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
[18:18] Action: PE2BZ notices that after a day of LoRa reception the telemetry.txt is taking 1.6 Gb from my 4 GB SD card
[18:18] <OZ1SKY_Brian> or in other words how high it is above your horizon
[18:18] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes ok
[18:21] <daveake> PE2BZ 1.6GB in one day??? No chance.
[18:21] <PE0SAT> OZ1SKY_Brian: Distance is climbing, so yes moving away and causing elevation to drop
[18:21] <fsphil> now below 400km distance
[18:21] <fsphil> shame it's not floating further
[18:22] <PE0SAT> fsphil: 451.2km
[18:22] <PE2BZ> daveake sorry :-) It´s from all my experimental SSDV tests I noticed when I opened it with Notepad++
[18:22] <daveake> ssdv packets don't change telemetry.txt
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[18:23] <daveake> And even the highest lora data rate would only be 175MB/day
[18:25] <daveake> I see that my home lora station, with aerial in the attic, managed a last packet from 368m altitude
[18:25] <daveake> Not bad considering hills in between
[18:34] <PE2BZ> daveake sorry again. 1.6 Mb and not 1.6 Gb
[18:34] <PE2BZ> I am not focussed I notice....
[18:36] <fsphil> slight difference :)
[18:37] <PE0SAT> PE2BZ: You are foccused enough to know your aren't focussed :D
[18:38] <PE0SAT> X7 definitly going west - dist 465,8 km s/n 27dB
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[18:39] <fsphil> 384.4km here
[18:39] <fsphil> 3.2 deg elevation
[18:39] <fsphil> oh and pulseaudio just messed up
[18:40] <PE2BZ> PE0SAT I have to clean my glasses I guess. You live deeper in Holland then I do ? I live near the westcoast, 297 km distance now to X7
[18:42] <SM0ULC-Reb> X7 batt ol solar?
[18:46] <RocketBoy> bat
[18:46] <RocketBoy> enough for 2 days
[18:46] <RocketBoy> or more
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[19:18] <PE2BZ> Good night to all !
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[19:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8ELK-1 after 0314 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
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[19:47] <PE0SAT> Going QSY - Good luck with X7 and all the others
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[19:48] <RocketBoy> thanks
[19:49] <arjunnaha> Would an X50 in a attic/loft, be good enough for tracking?
[19:50] <fsphil> depends
[19:51] <fsphil> certainly not ideal
[19:51] <arjunnaha> Just a lot of bother to mount
[19:53] <arjunnaha> What's the going rate for someone to mount it on a residential property?
[19:56] <fsphil> not sure, I've never had one done 'properly' though I'm going to have to at some point too
[19:56] <fsphil> if you know any ham radio folk, might be worth asking if they know someone
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[19:58] <arjunnaha> I need to get round to joining my local ham group and getting my foundation
[19:58] <AndyEsser> Ian_: ta for the info from earlier re UKHAS conference
[19:58] <AndyEsser> I just hate having my name as "Andrew" but presumably took it from my Paypal account or something
[19:58] <AndyEsser> arjunnaha: I visited a new club this week
[19:58] <AndyEsser> very helpful, much better than the last one
[19:59] <AndyEsser> plus they all knew about HAB and UKHAS and one even tracks and pops in here occasionally
[20:00] <arjunnaha> My think my local club is Reading
[20:00] <arjunnaha> No membership fee, benefit #16076 of being a student ;)
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[20:07] <AndyEsser> *glares*
[20:08] <g8fjg> bloody lightning ..knocked my router out
[20:09] <fsphil> I had that during the last few storms. but weirdly it's only when the storm is about 20km away
[20:09] <fsphil> when it's closer my internet is fine
[20:09] <AndyEsser> g8fjg: you seem to have a lot of issues with lightning...
[20:10] <fsphil> worth it though. lightning is pretty awesome
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[20:11] <g8fjg> when you have a 60ft lightning rod in the garden its little wonder
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[20:12] <AndyEsser> heh
[20:12] <g8fjg> had a ground leader the other month..that was pretty awsome
[20:13] <fsphil> eek
[20:13] <g8fjg> ah the smell of ozone in the morning
[20:14] <g8fjg> "lost" an lna the other day...I dont pretent to be brave
[20:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> was i cutdown at -3deg?
[20:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i=it
[20:19] <RocketBoy> comming up on X7 release
[20:19] <OZ1SKY_Brian> is there a flagcode for cutdown?
[20:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> it worked :-)
[20:20] <fsphil> burst on time
[20:20] <RocketBoy> yay
[20:20] <fsphil> look at that drift
[20:22] <fsphil> should've called this one GBP
[20:22] <AndyEsser> wait, crap, there's a flight going?!
[20:22] <AndyEsser> !flights
[20:22] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Current flights: 03Miser1 10(fdb6), 03Basingstoke Sunrise Launch 10(4cc5), 03MM8 10(c489), 03SKYBLUE1 10(065f), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812), 03CAEN_CP1 10(41dd), 03XABEN-98 10(35a7), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[20:22] <fsphil> dude, it's been up for the last few hours :)
[20:22] <AndyEsser> fsphil: I've been out!
[20:23] <fsphil> ah man
[20:23] <AndyEsser> o look
[20:23] <fsphil> it's just north of you
[20:23] <AndyEsser> X7 is landing in my garden
[20:23] <AndyEsser> err... south
[20:23] <fsphil> yes, south
[20:23] <fsphil> geography fail
[20:23] <AndyEsser> it's ok
[20:23] <AndyEsser> compass points are hard
[20:23] <AndyEsser> is there a chase team?
[20:24] <fsphil> sounds like RocketBoy doesn't want this one back :)
[20:24] <AndyEsser> hmm
[20:24] <fsphil> but if it's nearby...
[20:24] <AndyEsser> 20 minutes until landing and I'm losing light
[20:24] <AndyEsser> should I go after it?
[20:24] <AndyEsser> bearing in mind I don't have a yagi
[20:24] <RocketBoy> sure - if someone wantes to get it Id be happy to pay fuel costs etc
[20:24] <AndyEsser> RocketBoy: can you get me a yagi in 10 mins?
[20:24] <AndyEsser> :)
[20:24] <fsphil> if you get a position from close to the landing spot, you shouldn't need a yagi
[20:25] <AndyEsser> hmmm
[20:25] <fsphil> as long as you have some kind of antenna / magmount you can take with you
[20:25] <AndyEsser> I'd have to take my X50
[20:25] <fsphil> hah
[20:25] <fsphil> maybe not that
[20:25] <RocketBoy> humm the bog doesnt look very promising
[20:25] <AndyEsser> RocketBoy: Ha!
[20:25] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah that will work fine, i found one with a handheld once
[20:25] <AndyEsser> sod it, I'll dismount the X50 and load it into the car and my toolkit, hopefully can pull up close enough and get a final fix
[20:26] <AndyEsser> although... if it keeps heading south I won't find it in Shropshire hills
[20:26] <OZ1SKY_Brian> iven in the middle of the night, total darkness
[20:27] <OZ1SKY_Brian> even
[20:27] <AndyEsser> I'll give it 10 mins and see
[20:28] <fsphil> partial text here still, but no full lines in a while
[20:29] <RocketBoy> my guess would be near Pontesbury
[20:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Its was B-30, a midnight run LOL
[20:29] <AndyEsser> Arscott Golf Club would be nice
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[20:32] <AndyEsser> !dial X7
[20:32] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Latest dials for 03X7 10(35a7): 03434.64898 MHz, 434.649393 MHz, 434.649161 MHz, 434.649 MHz, 434.6483 MHz, 434.649501 MHz, 434.649676 MHz, 434.6495 MHz, 434.6489 MHz, 434.649897 MHz, 434.64978 MHz, 434.64949 MHz, 434.649475 MHz
[20:33] <fsphil> !whereis X7
[20:33] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: 03X7 is over 0352.92599,-3.06724 at 0313845 meters
[20:33] <fsphil> still hearing it, signal weak though
[20:33] <AndyEsser> RocketBoy: 50 Baud?
[20:33] <RocketBoy> yep
[20:33] <RocketBoy> 425 shift
[20:33] <RocketBoy> 7n2
[20:34] <AndyEsser> nice and loud here for me
[20:34] <AndyEsser> I got the rest from the email, just the baud rate missing :)
[20:34] <fsphil> huh, nearly got another full line
[20:34] <RocketBoy> oh - drop off
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[20:35] <AndyEsser> tis rather drifty
[20:35] <RocketBoy> yeah - its an original NTX2
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[20:35] <AndyEsser> Ah ok
[20:35] <fsphil> repeater special edition
[20:35] <AndyEsser> sorry, did say in the email
[20:36] <AndyEsser> the 0 freq has a strong signal here very very close to it :(
[20:36] <fsphil> nearly, $$X7,1958,20:35:46,52.91318,-3.05915,11656,10,9002*046B
[20:36] <AndyEsser> full line :)
[20:36] <fsphil> didn't pass the crc
[20:37] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/lckOgh8
[20:37] <fsphil> not bad for being this close to the horizon
[20:37] <AndyEsser> nice and strong for me :)
[20:37] <RocketBoy> where are u AndyEsser
[20:37] <AndyEsser> Chester
[20:38] <RocketBoy> ah - EADC
[20:38] <AndyEsser> that's me
[20:38] <fsphil> http://i.imgur.com/gnWdjmB.png
[20:39] <fsphil> just a few photons here
[20:39] <AndyEsser> what's your noise floor?
[20:39] <RocketBoy> The batteries should be good for a couple of days if you are thinking &
[20:39] <AndyEsser> RocketBoy: was thinking maybe going tomorrow?
[20:39] <fsphil> -110 dB according to gqrx
[20:39] <RocketBoy> looks like a nice 4.5m/sec nding
[20:40] <RocketBoy> landing
[20:40] <fsphil> the airspy's doing well
[20:41] <AndyEsser> sudden massive drop in signal here
[20:41] <fsphil> still a slow fade
[20:41] <fsphil> it's right on my horizon
[20:41] <AndyEsser> although, it's back and even clearer :)
[20:42] <fsphil> traces fading into the noise
[20:42] <AndyEsser> really quite happy with what the extra 2m elev on the antenna gives me :)
[20:43] <fsphil> and gone! pesky planet earth getting in the way
[20:43] <AndyEsser> stupid spheres
[20:43] <fsphil> that matched up pretty close to the horzion line on the map
[20:43] <fsphil> hah, can still see a trace on the waterfall
[20:44] <fsphil> and I'm starting to hear it again
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[20:44] <AndyEsser> 5 packets in a row good for me :)
[20:44] <RocketBoy> AndyEsser: tomorrow sounds good - should easilly last all day tomorrow
[20:44] <fsphil> frequency is rising?
[20:44] <AndyEsser> fsphil: yea, AFC is struggling in fldigi, having to do it by hand
[20:45] <RocketBoy> prob the next day too
[20:45] <AndyEsser> RocketBoy: I'll see about looking for it tomorrow,
[20:46] <AndyEsser> there are a few flights tomorrow, aren't there?
[20:46] <RocketBoy> I dont think so
[20:47] <AndyEsser> X7, what are you doing, X7 STAHP
[20:48] <fsphil> right, time to escape the attic. the spiders are planning something I know it
[20:48] <AndyEsser> pesky spiders
[20:49] <AndyEsser> fading for me now
[20:50] <AndyEsser> lost it basically on the green circle
[20:51] <AndyEsser> o no, green line
[20:51] <AndyEsser> if I can still hear it below 4000m I'll be happy :)
[20:51] <fsphil> it'll be spinning a bit
[20:52] <fsphil> fades in and out
[20:55] <AndyEsser> how am I still getting it?!
[20:56] <fsphil> you're quite close
[20:57] <AndyEsser> my house is in the way
[20:57] <AndyEsser> this is in my blind spot
[21:00] <AndyEsser> good sentence under 2000m :)
[21:00] <AndyEsser> if people could aim their HABs at this as a landing spot, I'd be happy :)
[21:02] <Upu> what balloon was it ?
[21:02] <RocketBoy> HY800
[21:02] <Upu> pin hole or just low ascent ?
[21:02] <RocketBoy> neither
[21:03] <Upu> how did you get it to float ?
[21:04] <Upu> ah ok
[21:04] <Upu> nice calcs
[21:04] <AndyEsser> Basically lost it now
[21:04] <AndyEsser> now crc'd sentence in 3m
[21:04] <AndyEsser> can still just about hear it
[21:05] <RocketBoy> looks like its going to land ner that road
[21:05] <RocketBoy> near
[21:08] <AndyEsser> RocketBoy: will see how I feel tomorrow and look at popping out and trying to find it tomorrow
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[21:08] <RocketBoy> sure - it looks a bit rugged round there
[21:09] <AndyEsser> can't be as bad as the last time I headed into those hills
[21:09] <AndyEsser> least I won't be doing it with a dodgy older man ;)
[21:10] <camchris> X7 lost contact over HABberly Brook :)
[21:10] <camchris> (Select OS map and zoom in)
[21:10] <AndyEsser> HA!
[21:11] <AndyEsser> on google maps atm looking at streetview and somehow missed that
[21:11] <AndyEsser> hopefully Brook Vessons farm will be nice people
[21:13] <AndyEsser> 50 mile trip, not too bad :)
[21:13] <camchris> The prediction from last contact put it right in the middle of an unclassified road.
[21:13] <camchris> Itll probably get run over :(
[21:14] <AndyEsser> Nah, I imagine it's in the field
[21:14] <AndyEsser> https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.6028753,-2.894373,3a,75y,283.45h,67.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIvCIwJ5GgDUfa7U44et1JQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
[21:14] <AndyEsser> or those trees
[21:14] <AndyEsser> the GPS altitude reported from most modules, is that Above MSL?
[21:14] <AndyEsser> or above actual ground?
[21:15] <camchris> GPS altitude is above sea level
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[21:16] <Vaizki> or rather above some theoretical ellipsoid but close enough :)
[21:16] <AndyEsser> "Actual" ground level of last reported GPS coords is 235
[21:16] <AndyEsser> Vaizki: yea, that's what I thought
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[21:17] <camchris> yeah - WGS84
[21:18] <camchris> Though OS maps use OSGB36
[21:18] <Vaizki> I am sitting in a boat and the gps tells me I am at 7m height
[21:18] <AndyEsser> should be a pretty simple recovery tbh
[21:19] <camchris> A boat on the sea? :)
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[21:20] <Vaizki> camchris: https://imgur.com/a/L4kFf
[21:21] <Vaizki> I am sitting here drinking rum and listening to VHF traffic :)
[21:21] <AndyEsser> damnit Vaizki
[21:21] <Vaizki> the mosquitos are out on shore
[21:21] <AndyEsser> can I come visit :(
[21:21] <Vaizki> sure
[21:22] <Vaizki> https://imgur.com/jCswdAD
[21:22] <Vaizki> this is the island
[21:23] <Vaizki> the mosquitos don't come out to the dock
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[21:23] <AndyEsser> Vaizki: that's where you live?
[21:23] <Vaizki> no idea why but I don't mind
[21:23] <arjunnaha> What's the population?
[21:23] <Vaizki> Nash it's my second home or summer cottage
[21:24] <Vaizki> population? it's 22 000 m2
[21:24] <Vaizki> my family :)
[21:24] <arjunnaha> lol
[21:24] <AndyEsser> so jealous...
[21:24] <arjunnaha> Is it satellite internet?
[21:24] <AndyEsser> can I come build my own house there?
[21:25] <Vaizki> 4G LTE
[21:25] <Vaizki> and we're on the grid now
[21:26] <arjunnaha> Huh, how close is the mainland?
[21:26] <Vaizki> 40 minutes by boat at 15 knots
[21:28] <arjunnaha> Bit confused, where is the LTE signal coming from?
[21:28] <Vaizki> nearby island
[21:28] <Vaizki> this is a very dense archipelago
[21:29] <arjunnaha> Ah
[21:30] <AndyEsser> any spare islands going?
[21:30] <AndyEsser> :)
[21:31] <Vaizki> lots
[21:31] <fsphil> I want my own island!!
[21:31] <Vaizki> https://goo.gl/maps/mEmszR1PB572
[21:31] <AndyEsser> cheap?
[21:31] <Vaizki> here I am
[21:32] <AndyEsser> where do you have to commute to?
[21:32] <Vaizki> well around here now maybe 300-400k EUR for an island that has permits for 2 houses of 120m2 and a sauna
[21:33] <AndyEsser> really?
[21:33] <AndyEsser> nice...
[21:33] <AndyEsser> that's not exorbitant
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[21:33] <AndyEsser> lots of space for rocket blowing up :)
[21:33] <AndyEsser> and building my own sub!!
[21:33] <Vaizki> commute.. well I spend weekends and vacations here
[21:33] <AndyEsser> ah ok
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[21:33] <arjunnaha> Is it under Finnish law lol?
[21:33] <AndyEsser> must be a nice life
[21:34] <Vaizki> it's 3.5 hours to work from here
[21:34] <Vaizki> yes Finnish law what else...
[21:34] <arjunnaha> No law ;)
[21:34] <AndyEsser> Vaizki Law
[21:34] <Vaizki> hehe
[21:35] <Vaizki> of course during the winter the sea freezes
[21:35] <AndyEsser> thick enough to drive over? :)
[21:36] <Vaizki> usually 1 meter thick so you could drive a train on it
[21:36] <Vaizki> but there's a shipping lane between me and the mainland
[21:37] <Vaizki> so the icebreakers ruin my winter visits ;)
[21:37] <Vaizki> last time I was here in the winter with ice was in 1979
[21:38] <Vaizki> and it's not so great here in the winter
[21:38] <Vaizki> Especially since the log cabins are not very well insulated
[21:39] <Vaizki> and the fresh water system from the artesian well is not winter proof
[21:39] <AndyEsser> that seems like a design floor for your country...
[21:39] <Vaizki> I do other stuff in wintertime
[21:40] <Vaizki> the island can hibernate
[21:40] <AndyEsser> aww yea... *winks*
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[21:41] <Vaizki> but I need to sleep, I have to go to Shanghai tomorrow so need to commute to the airport
[21:41] <AndyEsser> as in... Shanghai, Cina?
[21:41] <AndyEsser> China*
[21:41] <Vaizki> I hope so, I got a visa for China
[21:41] <AndyEsser> lol
[21:41] <AndyEsser> business or holiday?
[21:42] <Vaizki> business of course. why would I leave from the island in the summer.
[21:42] <AndyEsser> I dunno
[21:42] <AndyEsser> I don't know what you do, or why you'd need to go to China for it :)
[21:42] <Vaizki> trade show :(
[21:42] <AndyEsser> all I know is you spend nearly 24/7 in here :)
[21:43] <Vaizki> http://www.mwcshanghai.com
[21:43] <Vaizki> Nash
[21:43] <Vaizki> naah
[21:43] <AndyEsser> nash?
[21:44] <Vaizki> iPhone + rum
[21:44] <AndyEsser> anyway, night!
[21:44] <AndyEsser> :)
[21:44] <Vaizki> I am the CTO and largest shareholder of a telecom software company is what I do
[21:45] <Vaizki> it's not as good as fishing though
[21:45] <Vaizki> but not bad either
[21:45] <Vaizki> but yes sleep
[21:46] <AndyEsser> that sounds cool :)
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[22:52] <sciencec> I sent my first weather balloon - tell me what you think www.chasewiley.com/hab
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[22:57] <mfa298> It's so nice when people ask what you think, then don't hang around to get an answer.
[23:01] <fsphil> ah well, saves me clicking on the link
[23:06] <AndyEsser> mfa298: what're you talkinga about?! he gave you at least 11 seconds
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