highaltitude.log.20160619

[00:00] <esculca> do u have some reference source code for that?
[00:00] <esculca> that I can have a look?
[00:00] <esculca> yes, I can see something on the web, on of your posts
[00:00] <esculca> will loook into that
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[00:45] <Laurenceb__> http://www.visitspacecoast.com/beaches/surfspots-cams/jetty-park-surf-cam/
[00:46] <SpeedEvil> Oooh - early
[00:47] <SpeedEvil> Stupid autofocus
[00:48] <Laurenceb__> in a minute
[00:48] <Laurenceb__> http://portcanaveralwebcam.com/
[00:48] <Laurenceb__> looked like engines were on the deck
[00:48] <SpeedEvil> If the camera operator is not awake and doens't turn it away
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[00:49] <SpeedEvil> And to think that ULA actually had to design something to recover the engines alone :)
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[06:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SPUT_CHASER_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SPUT_CHASER_chase
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[08:10] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> sdr-uno former sdr-1 is realsed for free download at http://sdrplay.com/blog.html
[08:11] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> free for sdr-play owner, have not checked for like rtl or other EXT IO
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[08:20] <Vaizki> mmm I'll have to try it tomorrow
[08:36] <mclane__> I have updated to ubuntu 16.04; now I cannot compile dl-fldigi any more
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[08:38] <mclane__> I get a bug in misc/newinstall: no matching function for Wizard::set_active(...
[08:38] <mclane__> any idea what might be wrong?
[08:45] <fsphil> mclane__: try this patch: https://www.sanslogic.co.uk/dl-fldigi-fltk-changes.patch
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[09:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SPUT after 0311 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SPUT
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[09:07] <PE2BZ> Good morning all.
[09:07] <PE2BZ> !flights
[09:07] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03atomic_new 10(2d1e), 03Sput II - Flight ready 3 ddmm.mmmm coords 10(efae), 03IBMICLSentinel 10(0cd1), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[09:08] <PE2BZ> !payload efae
[09:08] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03SPUT 10(efae) 03$$SPUT - 03Primary - 03434.653 MHz LSB 03RTTY 50/350Hz ASCII-7 none 2
[09:08] <mclane__> hi fsphil, patch fails: src/dialogs/dl-fldigi.cxx:3589
[09:11] <PE2BZ> !payload 2de1
[09:11] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[09:11] <PE2BZ> !payload 2d1e
[09:11] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03ATOMIC 10(2d1e) 03$$ATOMIC - 03Atomic Balloon - 03434.251 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/350Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[09:12] <PE2BZ> !dial 2d1e
[09:12] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03ATOMIC 10(2d1e): none
[09:14] <fsphil> mclane__: patch, or compile?
[09:14] <fsphil> and what's on that line?
[09:14] <mclane__> fsphil: the function is now in line 3592; but changing line 98 in your patch does not work either (I am not the specialist in that)
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[09:14] <mclane__> fsphil: patch
[09:15] <mclane__> (git apply --check ....)
[09:15] <fsphil> the patch is basically adding icons:: in front of each call to make_icon_label
[09:15] <fsphil> and any other *_icon_label call
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[09:16] <fsphil> and the icons.cxx and icons.h contents get put into the icons namespace
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[09:31] <Northants> Is SPUT on 434.653MHz correct ?
[09:32] <g8fjg_Ron> not sen it yet
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[09:32] <g8fjg_Ron> seen
[09:32] <nigelp> 434.648 ish
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[09:33] <Northants> Thanks for that.... I'm still not hearing it yet.....
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[09:35] <nigelp> tones reversed
[09:35] <junderwood> !dial SPUT
[09:35] <SpacenearUS> 03junderwood: Latest dials for 03SPUT 10(efae): 03434.647932 MHz, 434.076 MHz
[09:36] <mclane__> fsphil: I checked again. The function appears now in line 3181 and the change needs to be applied from an offset of 170 lines
[09:36] <mclane__> however the patch then works until line 158
[09:36] <mclane__> only until line 158
[09:37] <mclane__> and stops then
[09:38] Nick change: junderwood -> M0JCU
[09:44] <g8fjg_Ron> SPUT 434.647800 for 1k centre...never seen the repeater i/p used so much for such long overs!!
[09:51] <g8fjg_Ron> must be simplex ch ..I know all about their gardens now
[09:51] <Rob_M0DTS> ha
[09:53] <g8fjg_Ron> need to use Rv for my quoted freq
[09:54] <Upu> got it confirming RV
[09:55] <mclane__> probably the patch works against a different version. I was following the guide on the ukhas wiki (compilation for ubuntu)
[09:55] <mclane__> fsphil: probably the patch works against a different version. I was following the guide on the ukhas wiki (compilation for ubuntu)
[09:59] <edmoore> the current flight path of sput puts it over me
[09:59] <edmoore> within 100 meters
[09:59] <g8fjg_Ron> taken to G&T's ...how long does it take to say 73
[10:00] <g8fjg_Ron> yo green
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[10:00] <edmoore> nice ron
[10:00] <edmoore> make it a double
[10:00] <edmoore> celebrate the decodes
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[10:02] <Boutatrain> In case anyone fancies tracking a balloon, SPUT launched pretty much spot on schedule at 10:00 today, currently over Lichfield
[10:05] <g8fjg_Ron> celebrating 1 decode so far, back on gardening....doh.....going round his house and complain about HABI
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[10:18] <g8fjg_Ron> I'm going to mow the lawn :-(
[10:21] <PE2BZ> Ron watch out for payloads ;-)
[10:21] <fsphil> you can try to get green lines when mowing the lawn too
[10:22] <PE2BZ> lol
[10:23] <g8fjg_Ron> thanks chaps ,,,fathers day supply of special gins arrived ..Hic
[10:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> gone to a carrier only
[10:26] <PE2BZ> One of my neighbours got a large drill for fathers day. I guess he couldn´t wait to use it. 09:20 at sunday morning
[10:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> Looks like they may have to DF Sput ....
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[10:29] <g8fjg_Ron> well at least gardeners question time seems to have finished...just in time for carrier only
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[10:30] <hyde00001> Just me or is SPUT having some issues&?
[10:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> not you its us all just a carrier
[10:30] <g8fjg_Ron> why didn't my decoded long and lat agree with the tracker
[10:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> drifting high
[10:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> ah ha its back
[10:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> briefly
[10:32] <hyde00001> SPUT lives&
[10:33] <hyde00001> sort of..
[10:34] <hyde00001> then doesnt&
[10:34] Action: PE2BZ is wondering who one sets the focus on a picam when there is one floor between the picam and the PC with ssdv.habhub.org.
[10:34] <PE2BZ> pe2bz remembers suddenly that who is wrong and how is better.
[10:35] <edmoore> hyde00001: yo
[10:36] <hyde00001> Yo edmoore
[10:36] <edmoore> just being nosy
[10:36] <edmoore> you're on the map in marston
[10:36] <edmoore> i live on botley road
[10:37] <hyde00001> aaah. Horseman Close - opposite the sports centre by the ring road..
[10:38] <edmoore> don't know any other habbers in ox
[10:38] <hyde00001> Not sure I yet qulaify& I lurk with a half bulit tracker&
[10:38] <edmoore> i think that qualifies :)
[10:39] <hyde00001> be interested to know how to avoid SPOTs fate&
[10:39] <edmoore> looks like it's coming at you
[10:39] <Upu> carrier only atm
[10:39] <edmoore> i think the received wisdom is to use spots as a backup but that live radio throughout is strongly preferred
[10:39] <fsphil> defensive programming, defensive construction
[10:39] <edmoore> oh sput's fate
[10:39] <edmoore> sorry i misread
[10:40] <hyde00001> my electronics works on a breadboard. Software too&
[10:40] <edmoore> has sput gone kaput then?
[10:40] <Upu> bah dum
[10:40] <hyde00001> really must learn to spell/type
[10:40] <fsphil> it's in a sput of bother
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[10:40] <hyde00001> sputtering along.
[10:40] <edmoore> poo bugger
[10:40] <edmoore> well i guess keep your eyes peeled
[10:41] <edmoore> if it works on the breadboard and the code works then you're in business
[10:42] <Upu> pour in some potting compound and launch it
[10:43] <edmoore> lol
[10:43] <edmoore> might change the apacitance
[10:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ARY2 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ARY2
[10:43] <hyde00001> Ive been playing with Eagle and decided that PCB design isnt my strong suit
[10:44] <Upu> heh
[10:44] <Upu> don't let Eagle scare you off
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[10:44] <fsphil> I thought that too, but I managed one board (kicad though, not eagle)
[10:44] <Upu> I assure you the problem isn't you
[10:44] <adamgreig> launch in five..
[10:44] <fsphil> wow
[10:44] <Upu> its not on the map ?
[10:45] <hyde00001> Was thinking of using stripboard as I can cope with that - any professional thoughts???
[10:45] <fsphil> five hours, days, years?
[10:45] <adamgreig> think their laptop doesn't have network
[10:45] <fsphil> nothing wrong with stripboard
[10:45] <Upu> they are well prepared
[10:46] <adamgreig> today was better
[10:46] <adamgreig> Here we go
[10:46] <Upu> they had gas
[10:46] <Upu> always a winner
[10:46] <adamgreig> launch
[10:46] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03Sky2LoRa after 033 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Sky2LoRa
[10:46] <fsphil> only problem I had with stripboard was I had a line of cut tracks which created a weak spot, and it landed quite hard and snapped the board in two
[10:46] <adamgreig> Nice timing lol
[10:46] <fsphil> so don't cut tracks in a row, spread it out a bit
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[10:47] <hyde00001> Aaah. Top tip
[10:47] <fsphil> it's unlikely to happen, I think it was just a fluke of the way mine landed
[10:47] <PE2BZ> !flights
[10:47] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03atomic_new 10(2d1e), 03Sput II - Flight ready 3 ddmm.mmmm coords 10(efae), 03IBMICLSentinel 10(0cd1), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[10:48] <hyde00001> Was actually thinking of using this https://www.adafruit.com/product/571 as I happen to have some at work& That I might have ordered too many of...
[10:48] <daveake> The "A:Temperature" field is as reliable as last time
[10:48] <PE2BZ> is Sky2LoRa payload known ?
[10:49] <PE2BZ> I have a 1000 Hz shift RTTY signal (assumed 300 bd) on 434.644
[10:49] <hyde00001> They work nicley in high CO2 environments, where my daytime electronics have to work&
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[10:51] <PE2BZ> Decoded image packet. Callsign: HABNL5, Image ID: 04, Resolution: 320x240, Packet ID: 16
[10:51] <fsphil> nice
[10:52] <PE2BZ> Seems to be a local ham ....
[10:52] <fsphil> dutchmill is in channel from time to time
[10:52] <PD5TON> Payload ski2lora?
[10:53] <fsphil> holland being so flat can be very handy sometimes
[10:54] <edmoore> hyde00001: brewery?
[10:54] <edmoore> fire extinguisher factory?
[10:55] <hyde00001> edmoore - nearly& human rather than yeast cell culture&
[10:55] <PE2BZ> !payload Sky2LoRa
[10:55] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03Sky2LoRa 10(0cd1) 03$$Sky2LoRa - no transmissions
[10:55] <edmoore> hyde00001: do i even want to know!?
[10:56] <fsphil> hah
[10:56] <PE2BZ> How to tell SpecenearUS that he´s wrong...
[10:56] <hyde00001> its all in the name of sceince
[10:56] <fsphil> forensic science?
[10:56] <hyde00001> http://www.genemedresearch.ox.ac.uk
[10:57] <hyde00001> I am the evil genetic scientist from all the films
[10:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IBMICLSentinel after 034 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IBMICLSentinel
[10:57] <edmoore> i wondered if it was something to do with the JR
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[10:59] <hyde00001> Yes - most JR visitors dont apprecaite about half the site is research labs&
[11:00] <hyde00001> and the other half is now mostly shops...
[11:00] <fsphil> ah interesting stuff
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[11:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial IBMICLSentinel
[11:01] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03IBMICLSentinel 10(0cd1): 03434.2502 MHz, 434.250103 MHz
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[11:04] <hyde00001> Im not sure Im that keen on SPUTs first album. All the songs appear to sound the same&
[11:05] <DL1SGP> hi folks, as many of you asked for pictures of our launch yesterday I am glad to announce that the first selection of images has been uploaded, enjoy: https://1drv.ms/f/s!ApJ7AcqziItTm1DRqOX1Ik_OqHLp
[11:06] <daveake> Wow that was a heavy landing!
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[11:08] <Jerry> !dial sput
[11:08] <SpacenearUS> 03Jerry: Latest dials for 03SPUT 10(efae): 03434.6482 MHz, 434.649535 MHz, 434.649203 MHz, 434.649779 MHz, 434.649677 MHz, 434.649524 MHz
[11:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> carrier only on sput at present it failed a while back now
[11:08] <fsphil> some big clouds on the horizon in your pics DL1SGP. good shots
[11:08] <Jerry> oh dear
[11:09] <DL1SGP> daveake, 32km separated from parachute (unplanned, antenna tangled in cord and cut it off). max alt was 32106m
[11:09] <Jerry> is it LSB or USB
[11:09] <DL1SGP> it made the 32km is less than 15 minutes daveake
[11:09] <hyde00001> Jerry - I have SPUT on 434.654.0 **** LSB **** but tracker appears to be malfunctioning
[11:09] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its is reversed from standard
[11:10] <Jerry> ok, thanks, shame as a nice steady carrier
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[11:11] <PE1ANS> !dial
[11:11] <SpacenearUS> 03PE1ANS: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[11:12] <DL1SGP> !dials
[11:12] <DL1SGP> hmm :)
[11:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> !flights
[11:12] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Current flights: 03atomic_new 10(2d1e), 03Sput II - Flight ready 3 ddmm.mmmm coords 10(efae), 03IBMICLSentinel 10(0cd1), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[11:12] <fsphil> not sure I'd feel comfortable flying measuring tape antennas on a hab. they're quite sharp
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[11:14] <DL1SGP> that's what they should have learned from last launch fsphil
[11:14] <Jerry> !dial 0cd1
[11:14] <SpacenearUS> 03Jerry: Latest dials for 03Sky2LoRa 10(0cd1): none
[11:14] <SpacenearUS> 03Jerry: Latest dials for 03Sky1LoRa 10(0cd1): none
[11:14] <SpacenearUS> 03Jerry: Latest dials for 03IBMICLSentinel 10(0cd1): 03434.25061 MHz, 434.250103 MHz
[11:14] <DL1SGP> anyhow that payload won't fly again and the antenna design not either :)
[11:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial IBMICLSentinel
[11:15] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03IBMICLSentinel 10(0cd1): 03434.25061 MHz, 434.250103 MHz
[11:21] <Jerry> Geoff - can you hear anything on 434.250 ?
[11:23] <hyde00001> While Im not Geoff&. I cant either& I do have a signal around 434.245 which isnt modulating RTTY
[11:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> I was previously just tuned up to IBMICLS
[11:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SPUT_CHASER_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SPUT_CHASER_chase
[11:24] <g8fjg_Ron> its on 434.250500 for 1khz centre
[11:24] <Geoff-G8DHE> Sry 434.250 is IBMICLSentinent and yes its hearable not decoding at present
[11:26] <Jerry> Thanks Ron, listening there now but still nothing so far
[11:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> it s 300baud so wider and hence noisy
[11:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> not getting either LoRa either although can see it on w/f
[11:29] <PE2BZ> !payload SKY2LO
[11:29] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[11:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> !payload Sky2LoRa
[11:30] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Payload 03Sky2LoRa 10(0cd1) 03$$Sky2LoRa - no transmissions
[11:31] <PE2BZ> 2x lora ayload ID IBMICLSentinel, RTTY, 434.250MHz, 850Hz shift, 300 baud, 8 N 2, SSDV and telemetry. Payload ID Sky1LoRa, LoRa, 869.850MHz, "Mode 1" Implicit mode, Error coding 4:5, Bandwidth 20.8kHz, SF 6, Low data rate optimize off SSDV and telemetry. Payload ID Sky2LoRa, LoRa, 434.750MHz, "Mode 1" Implicit mode, Error coding 4:5, Bandwidth 20.8kHz, SF 6, Low data rate optimize off SSDV and telemetry. Every 30 seconds Sky2LoRa
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[11:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03Sky1LoRa after 033 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Sky1LoRa
[11:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> weird getting Sky1lora but not sky2lora
[11:37] <PE2BZ> I have no lora 868 module.
[11:37] <g8fjg_Ron> I've had 500 bad crc's for SkyLoRa 1 what settings
[11:37] <Jerry> weird F5APQ is the only station decoding RTTY
[11:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LORA2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LORA2
[11:38] <hyde00001> So& can anyone hear/decode IBMICLSentinel RTTY? I have a strong carrier in the frequency vicinity but no RTTY modulation&.
[11:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> same as on 869 at least stated! I can see it on 434 w/f but not decode
[11:38] <g8fjg_Ron> too much qrm this qth on .250
[11:38] <PE2BZ> Found packet 0 for thread 0 from payload 3SS-KO
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[11:39] <PE2BZ> Is that sky2lo ?
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[11:45] <Geoff-G8DHE> Anybody confirm Sky2LoRa mode ?
[11:45] <Geoff-G8DHE> as Implicit, 20.8k, SF6, EC4:5
[11:46] <PE2BZ> I can confirm. Or just mode_0=1
[11:46] <daveake> Just set mode 1 I believe
[11:47] <Geoff-G8DHE> yup that's what I have on both but only getting sky1lora on 869 nothing from sy2lora but can see it on w/f so bemused!
[11:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LORA3 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LORA3
[11:47] <Geoff-G8DHE> ah burst ?
[11:47] <PE2BZ> Can you paste your gateway.txt
[11:49] <PE2BZ> PB0AHX had the same problem but he had both mode_1=1 and separate settings for implicit and so on. After removing those it worked for him.
[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> there all # out other than the mode line itself;
[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> frequency_0=434.750
[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> mode_0=1
[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> #bandwidth_0=20K8
[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> DIO0_0=6
[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> DIO5_0=5
[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> AFC_0=Y
[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> #SF_0=11
[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> #Coding_0=8
[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> #Implicit_0=N
[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> #Power_0=255
[11:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0HIP-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
[11:53] <PE2BZ> Indeed I see no problems for the settings. Strange. You did receive LoRa before with that module ? DIO0 and DIO5 are right for that module location ?
[11:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> yup its one of the original ones
[11:54] <adamgreig> looks like an early pop
[11:55] <PE2BZ> Geoff asking the obvious but the (correct) antenna is connected ?
[11:56] <PE2BZ> But on the other hand, I only have received one packet from this LoRa also...
[11:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> Well it has a splitter in it so I can tune on on the Airspy as well hence can see it on w/f, haven't changed the set up for a while so ..
[11:57] <PE2BZ> For my distance (about 200 km) I had expected also more than one image packet.
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[11:58] <daveake> Interesting ssdv image ...
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[11:58] <adamgreig> doesn't look like their external screen turned on?
[11:59] <daveake> Ah that's their OLED thing
[11:59] <daveake> I guess it was supposed to be in shot all along
[11:59] <adamgreig> yea
[11:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> yup can't see anything onit
[12:00] <adamgreig> surprised how early it burst, all things considered
[12:00] <fsphil> ARY2 images are doing well too
[12:00] <adamgreig> and at how effective their parachute is :P
[12:01] <daveake> hah yes was about to mention that!
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[12:01] <PE2BZ> That´s a picam with lenscap ?
[12:01] <daveake> Surprised it not all melted at over 10,000 degrees C
[12:01] <adamgreig> 48" spherachute
[12:02] <adamgreig> unfortunately for them it's working very well
[12:02] <daveake> Never mind the accuracy, feel that 4 d.p. precision
[12:02] <adamgreig> hah
[12:02] <adamgreig> I enjoy the 0.1mm altitude precision too
[12:02] <adamgreig> vernier caliper level right there
[12:02] <PE2BZ> In my imagination I see the curve of the earth....
[12:03] <richrboo> Hi daveake I'm struggling setting up habitat payload doc, Skycademy. RTTY string has funny data towards the end.
[12:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CRAAG7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CRAAG7
[12:04] <fsphil> !flights
[12:04] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: Current flights: 03atomic_new 10(2d1e), 03Sput II - Flight ready 3 ddmm.mmmm coords 10(efae), 03IBMICLSentinel 10(0cd1), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[12:04] <richrboo> daveake: $$USDC-1,11,23:37:51,51.35655,0.12444,00002,0,0,12,26.30.0,0.000*FB39
[12:04] <fsphil> michal_f: ARY2 a real flight or a test?
[12:04] <daveake> Yeah grab latest source that was a bug introduced a couple of weeks ago
[12:04] <richrboo> Not sure what 26.30.0 is in $$USDC-1,11,23:37:51,51.35655,0.12444,00002,0,0,12,26.30.0,0.000*FB39
[12:04] <daveake> It's missing a comma
[12:04] <richrboo> Oh, okay.
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[12:05] <richrboo> Thanks
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[12:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> PE2BZ, that might have been the problem, just been playing with the co-ax feeding the PI and Airspy and all of a sudden levels changed! think there might be an oddity in a coupler :-(
[12:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03pb0ahx--chase_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=pb0ahx--chase_chase
[12:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03pb0ahx-vacantie_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=pb0ahx-vacantie_chase
[12:27] <PE2BZ> Geoff-G8DHE sorry about the coupler, but at least you found something...
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[12:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup, only jumped to back to life after a couple of switch arounds so might have been something within playing up!
[12:29] <PE2BZ> pb0ahx is a long way for a chase
[12:30] <PE2BZ> southcoast of Turkey. That´s why he did not answer the phone when I tried to call him about the LoRa flight ;-)
[12:31] <adamgreig> wow, packets down to 91m
[12:31] <adamgreig> good work g8fjg_Ron
[12:32] <g8fjg_Ron> if it wasnt for the 100mtr hills in the way , who knows
[12:32] <adamgreig> fingers crossed it made it across the road and just landed on that handy field
[12:34] <Jerry> !dial ARY2
[12:34] <SpacenearUS> 03Jerry: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[12:43] <g8fjg_Ron> I received over2000 packets from Sky1LoRa but didn't decode 1 , just checked and there's no qrm near that freq, so bit of mystery!
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[12:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8MSJ-11 after 036 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8MSJ-11
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[12:54] <x-f> michal_f, is ARY2 a real flight or a simulation?
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[13:30] <nigelp> SPUT is back ;-)
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[13:38] <nigelp> last partial $$SPUT,304,13:35:39,5156.79727,-149.3372d,0.92,3194.2,12034.70*A8[
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[13:39] <richrboo> daveake Updated & working, thanks. Though...
[13:39] <richrboo> I notice PITS board warn lights goes out, I get gps lock, but OK light on PITS never lights up. Only LoRa flashes.
[13:40] <richrboo> Is this right?
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[13:52] <F0FYF> Hi all .. what is frequency tracking of atomic-ball ?
[13:54] <PE2BZ> !payload ATOMIC-BALL
[13:54] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[13:54] <PE2BZ> !flights
[13:54] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03atomic_new 10(2d1e), 03Sput II - Flight ready 3 ddmm.mmmm coords 10(efae), 03IBMICLSentinel 10(0cd1), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32)
[13:55] <PE2BZ> F0FYF last packet received 22 hours ago. Guess it´s off now ?
[13:58] <F0FYF> @PE2BZ ok but i heard a strange signal on 144.250 .. i will check that thanks
[13:59] <PE2BZ> @F0FYF good luck ! if it´s dropped, pick it up ;-)
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[14:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03R_S_CHASE_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=R_S_CHASE_chase
[14:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03USDC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=USDC-1
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[14:24] <PE2BZ> happysat hello there :-)
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[14:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03USDC-2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=USDC-2
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[14:59] <happysat> Hey Ben :)
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[15:06] <michal_f> x-f: it's a replay of last year flight. doing some software tests
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[15:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC3BGV-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC3BGV-11
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[15:24] <richrboo_> daveake: All updated, noticed only LoRa images on ssdv, no images from RTTY.
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[16:15] <adamgreig> ICL launch recovered
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[16:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RIA-20 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RIA-20
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[17:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[17:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03FANHAB1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=FANHAB1
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[17:34] <Laurenceb__> interesting pdf https://www.fas.org/sgp/othergov/doe/lanl/lib-www/la-pubs/00203259.pdf
[17:34] <Laurenceb__> if slightly offtopic :P
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[18:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC3DDW-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC3DDW-11
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[18:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LORA1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LORA1
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[18:57] <Ian_> A HAB falls 32000m in 900s, what is it's impact velocity, given that it's average transit velocity is approx 35.5m/s?
[18:57] <adamgreig> and when it lands in a tree does it make a sound?
[18:58] <Ian_> No, but I believe that the cameras survived :)
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[19:10] <Laurenceb__> I would calculate its effective drag coefficient * area
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[19:35] <daveake> 15m/s
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[19:38] <chris______> Evening all. I have a rubbish experience trying to track SPUD today. I was able to pick up his broadcast but kept on getting the 'bad check sum' message. I wonder if there is anything I can get for my rig to improve reception?
[19:38] <chris______> I was listening with my Yupiteru 7100 and a dipole antenna
[19:41] <chris______> I'd also like to ask this. Even though I had the 'bad check sum' message, Dlfl brought up a message saying that 'telemetry has been uploaded' Does it still upload telemetry to HABITAT even if the sentences are incomplete or a bit garbled?
[19:42] <mfa298> I think they are still uploaded but probably won't have much happen with them
[19:44] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> wasnt it in rv mode like LSB
[19:44] <mfa298> in terms of receiving, sometimes you need to tweak the settings (shift / receive bandwidth in particular) a bit to get better decodes
[19:44] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> reading backlog
[19:44] <mfa298> and depending on your antenna, if it's a temporary setup movign that around may help.
[19:45] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> [11:53:05] <g8fjg_Ron> need to use Rv for my quoted freq [11:54:54] <Upu> got it confirming RV
[19:46] <pe2bz_> chris what was your ID in fldigi ? You can see on habitat.habhub.org/stats for the SPUD flight which station received packets and how much
[19:47] <Ian_> Thanks on that daveake
[19:48] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> the tones trnsmitted from sput was in reverse, so if u did not check rv button in fldigi u probably did not decode
[19:48] <mfa298> the other thing you might need to switch off is the SQL button
[19:49] Action: pe2bz_ is keeping the lora ssdv tx on for the night, to see how the PiNoir performs in the dark. Tomorrow I will switch off the LoRa gateway to stop uploading to the ssdv.habhub.org
[19:50] <Ian_> Leaving the SQL on is like temporarily making the receiver deaf so giving dl_fldigi a much harder job to try and do
[19:51] <Ian_> With a dipole, you are probably horizontally polarized instead of vertical, so a 1/4 wave whip would probably give you a better match and if you can jack it up another four feet, you will notice a difference in received signal strength.
[19:52] <Ian_> Thanks also to yourself Laurenceb
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[20:00] <chris______> sorry, I was waiting for the tab to flash... i didnt realise people had responded
[20:01] <chris______> I actually had it in USB... I was nearly but not quite getting a clear string so I just persevered
[20:01] <chris______> I did play with the frequency and shift
[20:02] <chris______> I got it the best I could which was 434.652 in USB
[20:02] <chris______> No, the antenna is fixed to the chimney
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[20:03] <mfa298> if it's a dipole, depending how it's setup you might be the wrong polarisation and might be outside of the main lobes from it.
[20:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03CAEN_CP1 after 034 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CAEN_CP1
[20:04] <mfa298> various white stick verticals / colinears are more common for HAB use
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[20:09] <chris_> Sorry - my laptop times out. So it was probably not using LSB. It did seem like I could listen in USB but as I say... I just kept getting bad check sums
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[20:11] <chris_> hmmm the stats web page crashed my computer
[20:12] <chris_> can anyone tell me if I made it on the stats?
[20:12] <chris_> M6LZY was my handle on DlFl digi
[20:13] <mattbrej1a> http://habitat.habhub.org/habitat/_design/ept/_list/csv/payload_telemetry/flight_payload_time?include_docs=true&startkey=[%22ca6349ba86b93ca1433d73e7098fefae%22,%22118fe32f8c8546325135812e739b0644%22]&endkey=[%22ca6349ba86b93ca1433d73e7098fefae%22,%22118fe32f8c8546325135812e739b0644%22,[]]&fields=_sentence,_receivers
[20:13] <mattbrej1a> try that instead
[20:13] <mattbrej1a> (youre not on the list though)
[20:14] <mfa298> chris_: if your having issues it's potentially worth being in irc during the flight and getting some screen shots ready.
[20:15] <chris_> Thanks. Not a sausage from me.
[20:15] <mfa298> I think there was some discussion about the flgihts as they were happening
[20:15] <Ian_> chris_ I think that as you time out and come in again IRC has a nasty habit of adding underscores to your username and after one, it isn't obvious how many to use in direct replies, so I just generalised . . . sorry
[20:16] <chris_> I'll try that next time. I'll just wait for the one that comes close to Sutton Coldfield where I live.
[20:16] <chris_> Is there anything I can add to my small handheld to improve the signal?
[20:16] <chris_> Apart from a more powerful radio
[20:17] <adamgreig> the handheld is unlikely to be the limiting factor
[20:17] <chris_> So it is the aerial?
[20:17] <mfa298> there are pre-amps like the habamp which can help, depends a bit if the issue was signal strength or the dl-fldigi setup
[20:19] <mattbrej1a> my 7100 is a bit crap tbh
[20:19] <mattbrej1a> preamp wont hurt
[20:19] <mfa298> pre-amps are usually best as close to the antenna as possible. But that's easier done if the antenna is only used for receiving. Transmitting into a pre-amp can destroy it
[20:19] <chris_> I've found in the past when listening I can hear the signal on the handheld but there is insufficent strength (judged by the thickness and colour of line on the waterfall) to let dlfl digi decode
[20:19] <chris_> Im only receiving
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[20:20] <mfa298> on dl-fldigi check the diamond at the bottom right of the window, it shoudl be green (black needs more volume, red needs less volume)
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[20:20] <chris_> my 7100 has been wonderful in the field
[20:20] <chris_> I did a flight last month and chased. It was wonderful . It did well receiving the PITS broadcast
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[20:23] <mfa298> whilst I've not used it much I think my 7100 isn't as sensitive as my FT817 or TS2000. But I don't think it's any worse than the other handheld (TH-F7E) or the rtl-sdr dongles
[20:24] <chris_> I've googled hab pre amp and could only find ones for radio dongles. Are there any for handhelds?
[20:25] <mfa298> they'll work with anything, although you won't be able to use bais-T to power it without something extra
[20:25] <mfa298> they just connect to the coax between the antenna and the radio and amplify the signal (and noise going in)
[20:26] <mfa298> so putting it near the antenna is best so you get the best signal to amplify
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[20:29] <chris_> Thanks. I'll contact Uputronics and see what they recomend. My antenna is on the chimney with the cable going through the loft space so I can't get any closer unfortunately. And I've just checked the price of the other radios recommended. Ouch!
[20:30] <daveake> What cable?
[20:30] <daveake> and how long?
[20:31] <chris_> coax cable. The best I could afford. And I think 10m from antenna to radio.
[20:31] <daveake> RG-something?
[20:32] <chris_> I'm not sure. I'd need to look back at my receipts or check with the supplier.
[20:32] <mfa298> the type of coax can make a big difference
[20:32] <mfa298> any good coax should have the type marked on it
[20:32] <daveake> Roughly what diameter ?
[20:32] <chris_> OK, I'll check with the supplier
[20:32] <chris_> Let me go into the loft and check. BRB
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[20:35] <chris_> rg213
[20:36] <mfa298> rg213 should be fairly decent, especially if it's only 10m worth.
[20:38] <chris_> Good. OK Thanks everyone. I'm going to try the pre amp route. Cheers!
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[20:39] <mfa298> I'd be tempted to look at what's going into dl-fldigi first, if its just bad settings a preamp might not help much
[20:40] <mfa298> also check your antenna is setup to be verticall polarised
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[20:42] <mfa298> if your unsure of polaristaion http://www.aerialsandtv.com/fmanddabradio.html#Polarisation might help
[20:47] <Ian_> Sticking a HAB Amp in the loft is a very good compromise as it is protected from the elements, which I don't think it's built to withstand and accessible, unlike the antenna on the chimney.
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[21:18] <gonzo_m> also, chack the assembly of the connectors on the coax. a poorly installed connector could result in a very poor signal
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[21:24] <Ian_> Experience shows that it's usually the most inaccessible connector that has the problem . . . ;)
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[21:34] <gonzo_m> sods law
[21:39] <Ian_> :) VHF NFD comes to mind, yes, yes, all checked, honest . . . fail! want a job done, do it yourself!
[21:40] <gonzo_m> I'm managing ours
[21:42] <Ian_> Wise move
[21:42] <Ian_> I did the cooking and left the others to it. I enjoy being few properly!
[21:43] <Ian_> s/few/fed
[21:43] <gonzo_m> tryimng to move away from the previous system of dragging a system out of a home shack into a field
[21:43] <gonzo_m> complete with all the chock blovk and fiddles
[21:44] <gonzo_m> getting towards plug and play boxes
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[21:45] <gonzo_m> we team up with another club, and they do the food side. Very welcome, getting a cooked breky, without having to take too muh time away from the work
[21:45] <craag_> all the powerpoles!
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[21:46] <gonzo_m> yep, started installing those
[21:46] <craag> looking forward to this year - uni club is doing it semi-independently for the first time
[21:47] <gonzo_m> I tried getting them to standardise on audio connectors too, but that just started an argument
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[21:47] <craag> hah
[21:48] <gonzo_m> at least the only pl259's on nfd are now the ones built onto radios
[21:59] <SM0ULC-Reb> NFD?
[22:03] <gonzo_m> national field day
[22:03] <gonzo_m> next month is the vhf field day
[22:03] <gonzo_m> 50/70/144/432/1296 mhz
[22:07] <Ian_> First full weekend in July each year
[22:09] <SM0ULC-Reb> ah
[22:11] <gonzo_m> I rig up radios and nice big antennas. Then let others use them, whilst I sit and drink beer
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[22:36] <Ian_> g8nzo used to do that too.
[22:37] <fsphil> g8nzo. there's more than one of them?
[22:38] <gonzo_m> don't cross the streams!
[22:38] <gonzo_m> are you guys doing nfd?
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[22:41] <MaxICL> @adamgreig Hi Adam, Max from Imperial. Thank you so much again for helping us today. We managed to secure our payload pretty easily. It had landed in a Shetland pony enclosure! Thank you also everyone who helped us track and get telemetry. Goodnight All.
[22:41] <adamgreig> haha fantastic
[22:41] <adamgreig> glad to hear you got it back OK
[22:42] <craag> Did the lora uplink stuff work?
[22:42] <MaxICL> Got some fantastic GoPro footage. I can see why you all got into this :P
[22:42] <MaxICL> It did to some extent. Although we'd cranked up our OLED brightness, it was hardly visible
[22:42] <MaxICL> You can just about make out a few messages though
[22:43] <craag> :)
[22:43] <MaxICL> I'll check tomorrow exactly what we received, we stored all the messages from the uplink to .txts, so I should be able to see tomorrow.
[22:44] <MaxICL> Exactly what kind of antenna does whoever received the telemetry have? I was surprised how bad our huge Yagi was
[22:46] <gonzo_m> most people use dual band collinears
[22:47] <gonzo_m> (only dual band, because they are the most commonly avail)
[22:47] <gonzo_m> a few of us have yagis
[22:47] <adamgreig> stupid question but was your yagi held with the elements perpendicular or parallel to the ground?
[22:48] <MaxICL> I'm pretty sure we went through all orientations at some point
[22:48] <MaxICL> :P
[22:49] <MaxICL> Maybe something to do with the fact it was inside a car most of the time?
[22:49] <adamgreig> that would definitely do it
[22:49] <MaxICL> mhmm
[22:49] <gonzo_m> that would ruin it's performance
[22:49] <MaxICL> couldn't really be helped though. didn't want to get our hands sliced off
[22:50] <adamgreig> in cars we usually use magmount whips on the roof
[22:50] <adamgreig> works very well
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[22:50] <gonzo_m> a magmount vertical 5/8th antenna would have been far better
[22:50] <gonzo_m> snap
[22:51] <MaxICL> Ahh, will remember that for next time :)
[22:51] <MaxICL> "we usually magmount whips" sounds pretty cool tbh
[22:51] <gonzo_m> the signal coming through car windows would be poor, especially if the widwows ate coated
[22:52] <gonzo_m> and the metal of the car would ruin the performance of the yagi
[22:52] <MaxICL> Well in our defence, we were given and recommended a Yagi, so I didn't question it :P
[22:53] <MaxICL> Anyway, thanks again. Got to write a report now, so I'd better be off. Gl everyone :)
[22:54] <gonzo_m> yagi is great when stopped. either on a bit of high ground to listen for distant signals (not when chasing). Or if chasing, to find the payload when it's landed
[22:54] <gonzo_m> also good to get a fix/bearung if the gps fails
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[22:55] <MaxICL> Ok, will bear in mind, thanks
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[22:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RIA-20 after 036 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RIA-20
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[23:15] <Laurenceb__> http://imgur.com/gallery/GrAiE
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