highaltitude.log.20160618

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[00:14] <Oddstr13> my condolences
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[00:28] <Upu> Lunar was the 10th most active person on this channel
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[00:31] <prog> do you ever sleep
[00:31] <prog> Upu: we need your help
[00:34] <Upu> New baby just about to go back to bed
[00:35] <Upu> Back in a bit
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[00:56] <prog> oki
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[01:14] <SpeedEvil> :/
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[03:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03track Arturo_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=track%20Arturo_chase
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[04:50] <DL1SGP> most tech installed in car for triple launch, good morning
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[04:52] <arko> Have a good flight
[04:52] <DL1SGP> thank you arko, despite all I will try to enjoy it
[04:53] <DL1SGP> callsigns for the APRS HABs are DL0CN and DF0XX one has a voice output so dutch listeners might get that in as well :)
[04:53] <arko> I'm sure lunar_lander would want you to
[04:54] <DL1SGP> indeed arko! I also hope to get his new construction in the skies some time in future
[04:55] <adamgreig> good luck today
[04:55] <arko> :)
[04:56] <DL1SGP> predictions have been very stable, which is good, we will not have to drive too far and it will stay east of big NATO training ground
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[06:04] <daveake> Watching Soyuz undock. Loving this shot - https://twitter.com/esaoperations/status/744047566875148288
[06:13] <DoYouKnow> hi, can I use my GPS receiver to receive NOAA EMWIN?
[06:14] <DoYouKnow> I read on the receiver it has -148 dB sensitivity
[06:14] <DoYouKnow> and EMWIN is like -145 dB
[06:14] <DoYouKnow> and supposedly they g7020-kt have a tuner on them
[06:14] <DoYouKnow> how to I retune it?
[06:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> I doubt u can use a gps chipp to receive other then gps/GLONASS transmissions, you should look for a sdr receiver
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[06:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DK0LG-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DK0LG-11
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[07:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ5RWU_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ5RWU_chase
[07:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5YAM-rs41 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5YAM-rs41
[07:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL1SGP_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL1SGP_chase
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[08:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SPUT - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SPUT
[08:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP1WSX_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP1WSX_chase
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[08:39] <DL1SGP_P> Hi all could anyone please enable df0xx-11 and later dl0cn-11 on the map?
[08:40] <DL1SGP_P> For the Dutch stations that want to give it a try the voice Talker is on 145,200
[08:42] Nick change: nick__ -> nick_
[08:44] <Atomic_Ball> Hi all, i filled out the flight documents for Atomic_Balloon AB10 . do i have to wait for the approval ? I can't track my balloon at the moment. in FLdigi I have a green line $$ATOMIC gps data ok.
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[08:47] <adamgreig> you need to paste the flight ID into the
[08:47] <adamgreig> #habhub channel
[08:47] <Atomic_Ball> ok thank you. will do so.
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[09:24] <fsphil> ah tim back safely, some good news for a change
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[09:31] Nick change: DanielRi1hman -> DanielRichman
[09:36] <daveake> yes, indeed
[09:36] <daveake> Some good news at the end of a really shit week
[09:38] <craag> 3 things he wants: rain, pizza, beer.
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[09:46] <tweetBot> @stevenjenkinson: "Hi @daveake the serial port on my @Raspberry_Pi was screwed up too - I'll have to go back up!" #UKHAS https://t.co/cwPucNFK8A
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[10:04] <PE2BZ> DL1SGP_P Good morning. I hear female voices ;-)
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[10:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL0CN-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL0CN-11
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[10:36] Nick change: SM0ULC-R1b -> SM0ULC-Reb
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[10:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ5TDW_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ5TDW_chase
[10:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ATOMIC - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ATOMIC
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[11:19] <SpeedEvil> http://imgur.com/gallery/vAYiB8T
[11:20] <michal_f> :>
[11:21] <michal_f> which year was it? 2013 ?
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[11:23] <SpeedEvil> Sounds about right
[11:40] <SM0ULC-Reb> Tele2 (telco) is building big LoRa-network. Cost about 1e euro per device and year for some amount to messsages/year.
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[12:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0HIP-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
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[13:16] <SM0ULC-Reb> any tip of software for rtty with autodetection of carrier/rate etc ?
[13:29] <x-f> SM0ULC-Reb, mattbrejza's decoder in Java automagically detects RTTY carrier shift, baudrate (50 or 300) and uploads the decodes - http://users.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mfb2g09/decoder/
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[13:38] <SM0ULC-Reb> x-f: thanks
[13:45] <SpeedEvil> http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=40088.msg1550704#msg1550704 'If adding quadratic trend line of seconds 5-9, it shows deceleration of ~1.1g which if continues would bring the stage to stop @ height of 30 meters around second 10.
[13:45] <SpeedEvil> But instead, the stage descends with almost constant velocity for next 6 seconds... Not good.' - interesting
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[13:58] <Laurenceb__> heh nasaspaceflight video analysts at it again
[13:59] <Laurenceb__> heh I was right, ~10m/s impact
[14:00] <SpeedEvil> I was wondering if it is moving in or out of the camera direction, and not in fact vertically
[14:00] <SpeedEvil> video analysis is especially fun with motion compression algorithms
[14:00] <SpeedEvil> though in this case the shaking probably helps to remove those artifacts
[14:01] <SpeedEvil> Junkpile should be interesting
[14:03] <Laurenceb__> looks like the smoke was engine running out of lox
[14:04] <SpeedEvil> Likely.
[14:04] <SpeedEvil> Few tens of gallons of RP1 sprayed out the bottom at speed will make quite a lot of fire indeed, even without the tank bursting
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[14:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W0ZC-9 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W0ZC-9
[14:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD4STH-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD4STH-7
[14:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD4STH-9 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD4STH-9
[14:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W5ADC-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5ADC-12
[14:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N9XTN-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N9XTN-12
[14:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W9YJ-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W9YJ-11
[14:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W0ZC-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W0ZC-11
[14:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-12
[14:18] <Upu> GPSL....
[14:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG5CA-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5CA-11
[14:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KK4RPQ-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK4RPQ-11
[14:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE2WMG-10 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE2WMG-10
[14:24] <SM0ULC-Reb> pretty massive launch
[14:26] <Laurenceb__> oops
[14:26] <Laurenceb__> https://i.imgur.com/gZEKvbB.jpg
[14:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI4NHK-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI4NHK-11
[14:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0PFM-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0PFM-11
[14:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0BMU-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0BMU-11
[14:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W5ADC-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5ADC-11
[14:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-12 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-12
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[14:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8MSJ-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8MSJ-11
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[15:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AB5SS-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AB5SS-11
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[15:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SPUT after 036 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SPUT
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[15:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N9XTN-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N9XTN-11
[15:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE6JBJ-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE6JBJ-12
[15:35] <DL1SGP> hi all
[15:40] <Ian_> Hi
[15:41] <DL1SGP> our first payload lost its parachute and made the way down from a bit more than 32000m within 12 minutes
[15:41] <adamgreig> wow
[15:41] <adamgreig> speedy!
[15:41] <DL1SGP> gladly it crashed into forest
[15:41] <DL1SGP> and not a car or a person
[15:41] <adamgreig> did the electronics survive?
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[15:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE6JBJ-13 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE6JBJ-13
[15:42] <DL1SGP> yes :) I recovered it, all looks good, despite having lost antenna parts, the gps module having been ripped out of the payload and laying next to it it was still sending on the ground. but one could tell that there was some physical stress on the material
[15:42] <Ian_> Boy Scout knots course booked for you . . . ;)
[15:43] <x-f> Ed's staircase test: passed with A++ :)
[15:43] <DL1SGP> it was not the knot
[15:43] <DL1SGP> the cord failed
[15:44] <Ian_> Substandard or damaged prior to launch perhaps?
[15:45] <DL1SGP> hmm no would not say that, we might find out through the video
[15:45] <DL1SGP> second payload failed
[15:45] <DL1SGP> in flight
[15:46] <Ian_> I'll await the forensic anaylysis and hope there is enough clues to reveal the cause.
[15:46] <Ian_> Not a lucky day, but plenty to be looking at in the washup I guess.
[15:47] <DL1SGP> the first payload was the one with the cameras, so I would say it is good we found that one :)
[15:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP9UOB-10 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-10
[15:48] <DL1SGP> and even if all had gone super well, there would still have been a big gap left by the missing launch which never would have made it a perfect day
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[16:01] <arko> Post pictures!
[16:01] <arko> When available :p
[16:02] <DL1SGP> I took some of the payload on ground and there will be some on our club website
[16:02] <DL1SGP> payload waits for being picked up by club president
[16:08] <DL1SGP> what is quite amusing... the orange "Fragile" tape says "DO NOT DROP" heh... naah it did not drop just 32km free fall
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[16:10] <SP9UOB> Hi, please run hysplit for SP9UOB-10
[16:11] <michal_f> czesc Tomek. gratuluje lotu :)
[16:13] <SP9UOB> michal_f: thanks ;-)
[16:13] <SP9UOB> !hysplit run SP9UOB-10
[16:13] <SpacenearUS> 03SP9UOB: You need to be an admin to do that.
[16:16] <arko> DL1SGP: gravity eh?
[16:16] <arko> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWJXDG2i0A
[16:19] <SP9UOB> Hi arko :-)
[16:20] <arko> hello :)
[16:22] <SP9UOB> arko: finalli i have reached northern america with balloon :-)
[16:23] <SP9UOB> finally ;-)
[16:23] <arko> right now?!
[16:23] <SP9UOB> 23 minutes ago was received in Canada :-)
[16:24] <SP9UOB> i have solar step-up converter issue - it is not starting very often :(
[16:30] <SpeedEvil> Solar panels are constant current devices. YOu need to unload them to start the converter.
[16:31] <arko> woah great!
[16:31] <arko> congrats SP9UOB :)
[16:31] <SP9UOB> SpeedEvil: i know that, im using LTC3105 but it fails to start. Anyway when im testing at ground level - everything is ok
[16:32] <SP9UOB> SpeedEvil: im suspecting the chips (from aliexpress...)
[16:32] <SpeedEvil> you mean at altitude?
[16:33] <SpeedEvil> At -20C, you've got 80mV or so more voltage per cell
[16:33] <SpeedEvil> I don't know what the temperature would be
[16:33] <SP9UOB> SpeedEvil: yes, at altitude, i have tested that tracker few days in my backyard, and it was starting at every sunrise
[16:33] <SpeedEvil> :/
[16:34] <SP9UOB> and now - last succesfull powerup was over europe (see APRS raw packets with email)
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[16:37] <HB9FUF> Hi Atomic_Ball!
[16:37] <HB9FUF> I am in Zurich, trying to hear your HAB
[16:39] <HB9FUF> At which frequency have you last heard it, around 17.45 CEST?
[16:40] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> Payloads: ATOMIC 434.251MHz USB RTTY 300 baud 350Hz shift ASCII-8 no parity 2 stop bits
[16:40] Nick change: SA6BSS-Mike|2 -> SA6BSS-Mike
[16:41] <HB9FUF> SA6BBS: yeah, that 's where I am listening, yagi pointed South-East fromZurich...
[16:41] <HB9FUF> South-West
[16:41] <SA6BSS-Mike> it should be strong where u are
[16:42] <HB9FUF> No trace of a RTTY...
[16:42] <SA6BSS-Mike> using a sdr?
[16:42] <HB9FUF> AirSpy + Cheap 70-cm Yagi
[16:42] <SA6BSS-Mike> good combo, should work great
[16:43] <HB9FUF> For once I notice a HAB above my area :)
[16:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> yeah , know what u meen, not verry often anything is heaRd here
[16:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> looks like sp5yam is going up for a second run, might come in range
[16:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> using a 20el yagi and a airspy mini with preamp
[16:46] <HB9FUF> I pledged for a LimeSDR, I hope they make it by Monday for their crowdfunding....
[16:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> yeah, its going for finals days
[16:47] <HB9FUF> I love my Airspy R0, but the LimeSDR will add transmit capability to my toy-set :)
[16:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> must be the best thing after HackRF / bladeRF came out
[16:49] <fsphil> how does the limesdr compare against the hackrf? (too lazy to google)(
[16:51] <HB9FUF> Seriously better, by the specs, https://www.crowdsupply.com/lime-micro/limesdr - go mid page for a comparison
[16:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> it should be better, the hackrf is not a good for rx
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[16:58] <HB9FUF> looks like sp5yam might not come back you way afterall....
[16:58] <SA6BSS-Mike> nop, early burst
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[17:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP3EOL - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP3EOL
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[18:05] <garymortimer> evening all, I may have missed it but have these boards been discussed...... LoRa and Pi http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Long-distance-wireless-433-868-915Mhz-Lora-and-GPS-Expansion-Board-for-Raspberry-Pi/32672385182.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000010.4.3IylA0
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[18:13] <daveake> max gps alt 18km
[18:15] <garymortimer> Ah tnxs
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[18:25] <sa6bss-mike-mobi> Anyone got frq of sp3eol ?
[18:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-1 after 037 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
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[18:40] <sa6bss-mike-mobi> Sp3eol 437.7MHz USB RTTY 100 baud 470Hz shift ASCII-7 no parity 1 stop
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[19:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Pd0pvf_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Pd0pvf_chase
[19:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PD0PVR_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PD0PVR_chase
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[21:39] <SM0ULC-Reb> http://spaceflightnow.com/2016/06/17/va230-mission-status-center/
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[21:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SPUT after 036 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SPUT
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[23:23] <SpeedEvil> http://imgur.com/gallery/baFCw - seems related
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[23:44] <esculca> hi everyone in this room
[23:44] <esculca> greeting form Portugal
[23:44] <esculca> greetings from Portugal
[23:44] <esculca> I have a doubt
[23:44] <esculca> maybe one of you guys can give some advise
[23:45] <esculca> I have built a lora receive station
[23:45] <esculca> for my payloads
[23:45] <esculca> I am looking for the easyiest way to uplload this telemetry to habhub
[23:46] <esculca> this receiver will be in the car
[23:46] <esculca> and is currrently receiving data through lora properly
[23:46] <esculca> any advice
[23:46] <esculca> ?
[23:54] <daveake> Mobile internet
[23:54] <esculca> what do you mean?
[23:55] <esculca> thanks for answer Dave
[23:55] <daveake> e.g. Pi - Wi-Fi - phone
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[23:55] <esculca> well, I do have Wi-Fi in the car
[23:55] <esculca> to upload the telemetry of ffldigi
[23:56] <esculca> my lora receiver is a shield I mounted on top of a arduino mega
[23:56] <esculca> with the pi it is easier to upload to habhub?
[23:57] <daveake> Yes
[23:59] <esculca> not very familiar with the Pi
[23:59] <esculca> I guess I have to give it a try
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