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[00:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WO9N-7 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WO9N-7
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[07:07] <jakeio> Out of interest, why is a high ascent rate needed to ensure burst, is it to get a faster rate of change of diameter of the balloon so the force on it increases faster? Or, is that nonsense?
[07:12] <SA6BSS-Mike> its not needed its just that u want to chase 100 upon 100 of km to retrive it
[07:12] <SA6BSS-Mike> *dont
[07:12] <fsphil> I believe it's when the latex is at its stretch limit, the pressure inside the balloon starts rising. if it rises too fast, the latex tears
[07:17] <edmoore> it's not 'needed' i don't think, it's just a consequence of having a suitably large excess oh hydrogen to ensure the yeild stress of the latex is overcome (rather than having the balloon go into a steady float)
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[07:20] <jakeio> Thanks guys.
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[07:39] <Babs____> Morning everyone - Stabilotron-II continues to take shape https://flic.kr/p/J4Jdik
[07:39] <Babs____> I think the pyramids were built quicker than this
[07:39] <Upu> holy engineering batman
[07:39] <Vaizki> that'.. massive
[07:40] <Babs____> I'm working on the Saturn V principle
[07:41] <edmoore> waste anything except time?
[07:41] <Babs____> edmoore: you started all this back in 2013 if you remember
[07:41] <Babs____> It's technically your fault
[07:42] <Babs____> PS a former boss of mine has joined your board of directors
[07:42] <Vaizki> so what's this saturn-o-tron going to weigh with the camera on board?
[07:42] <Babs____> He's a good guy
[07:42] <Babs____> I think 1.5kg
[07:44] <fsphil> that's a pretty thing
[07:44] <edmoore> i know who you mean i think
[07:44] <edmoore> tho i don't work directly for them
[07:44] <edmoore> a separate little company of 4 or so
[07:45] <Vaizki> so what's with the reaction wheels, hard drive motors etc? those still on?
[07:46] <Babs____> If the reaction wheels go on they will be above the assembly you see there
[07:47] <Babs____> But that relies on me being able to code a PIL algorithm etc and I might not have time
[07:47] <Babs____> The planets are not going to stop turning
[07:47] <Babs____> It would be a shame as I have the reaction wheel assembly all built
[07:48] <edmoore> it's about 5 lines to write
[07:48] <edmoore> longer to tune
[07:48] <edmoore> bbl
[07:48] <Babs____> Yes that's what I mean
[07:48] <Babs____> I have a basic program written
[07:49] <Babs____> But I had to cast the polystyrene cases myself for example which is eating up time
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[07:58] <AndyEsser> that's pwetty
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[08:35] <garymortimer> morning all, decent weather for balloons over there?
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[08:38] <garymortimer> Looks like the rain is north today http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ well north and west of London and cambridge
[08:40] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Should be good - just got to go get my extra pole to mount 868MHz on!
[08:40] <gonzo__> Should you not be referencing the rain path wrt pubs??
[08:41] <gonzo__> I need to retire, give me chance to get my antennas back in service. Getting withdrawl symptoms here
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[08:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ha you'll find that other things fill your time up instead!
[08:46] Action: Geoff-G8DHE now pokes 868Mhz out the window
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[08:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> !flights
[08:58] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Current flights: 03IBMICLSentinel 10(f6d7), 03FLOAT - 2 10(18be), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812)
[08:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> !flight f6d7
[08:58] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Flight 10(f6d7): 03IBMICLSentinel 10(3 payloads) - Launch date 03Today at 10:00 from 03Cambridgeshire, UK 10(52.2135,0.0964)
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[09:02] <gonzo__> everyone who I speak to who has retired, seems to say the same
[09:02] <gonzo__> though digging deeper, they seem to have just slowed the poace down, so it fills the days. And still run short
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[09:04] <Babs____> Boardz https://www.flickr.com/photos/91049302@N00/shares/3a78T4
[09:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> Coming along nicely!
[09:06] <Geoff-G8DHE> whats the all up mass expected to be ?
[09:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> gonzo__, Yup I would agree there isn't that rush as you do know there isn't often a deadline as such ;-)
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[09:10] <fsphil> Babs____: how snug a fit is the SD card?
[09:10] <fsphil> I'd be afraid of it moving about
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[09:26] <edmoore> Ian_: look at the amateur altitude records
[09:26] <garymortimer> @Babs Thats a big gimbal motor, whats the power draw like
[09:26] <edmoore> mick knows what he's doing and is perfectly familiar with ukhas
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[09:28] <Babs_____> Like 1.5kg I think - depends on whether the reaction wheels are in. If so then maybe 2kg. stabilotron-I was 3.5kg so this is basically light as a feather compare to that one!
[09:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> looks good anyway!
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[09:32] <Babs____> If it looks good it must fly good right ?
[09:32] <Babs____> Works for the f1 guys
[09:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> :) I suspect it will
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[09:37] <Chimpusmaximus> Any news on IBMICLSentinel flight?
[09:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> 11:00ISH
[09:38] <Chimpusmaximus> ok cheers
[09:38] <edmoore> tweet the payload!
[09:38] <edmoore> !!!
[09:38] <edmoore> don't tweet to the payload but tweet the payload itself
[09:38] <edmoore> see if you can crush it into 140 characters
[09:39] <daveake> #rainonit
[09:40] <edmoore> forecast is clear
[09:41] <Chimpusmaximus> I might just be able to track between conf calls today.
[09:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2EAT-13 after 0311 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2EAT-13
[09:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 032112_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=2112_chase
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[09:50] <garymortimer> Do you mean this twitter account??? https://twitter.com/ibmiclsentinel
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[09:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> going to be a bit difficult to read the tweets on that screen!
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[09:56] <fsphil> it's not space, it's just very high up #tospace
[09:57] <fsphil> tempting
[09:58] <daveake> Hah
[09:58] <daveake> How about "Dave's code sisters to be working"?
[09:58] <daveake> Wtf
[09:58] <daveake> Stupid phone
[09:58] <fsphil> lol
[09:59] <daveake> "Dave's code appears to be working". Or not.
[09:59] <edmoore> ?
[09:59] <fsphil> sisters are hackin' it for themselves
[09:59] <edmoore> oic
[09:59] <edmoore> to tweet
[10:00] <edmoore> how about 'linus's code appears to be working'
[10:00] <daveake> Yes. It's mostly my code I think. Not flown it myself yet.
[10:00] <daveake> True
[10:00] <edmoore> on the basis that he probably is responsible for 99.97% of the lines of code being used to put the tweet up there
[10:00] <fsphil> 'working despite rfm's datasheet'
[10:00] <edmoore> if one will insist on putting an entire linux machine onboard
[10:00] <fsphil> hoperf*
[10:00] <edmoore> (but, truly, we live in the future'
[10:01] <edmoore> james (colleague) was yesterday saying how it took him about 6 months to 'build' a linux machine in the early 90s
[10:01] <edmoore> saving up for 5MB of ram which made all the difference over 3MB
[10:01] <edmoore> and building everything
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[10:01] <edmoore> physically and source
[10:02] <edmoore> now we can buy a 20g thing that's much more powerful for the price of a round of drinks
[10:02] <edmoore> (in london)
[10:02] <fsphil> I did "linux from scratch" back in the day. was quite educational
[10:02] <edmoore> i can imagine
[10:03] <fsphil> biggest issue was always getting X to work
[10:03] <edmoore> james ended up pretty much running his own distribution when he was at chilbolton observatory
[10:03] <edmoore> that everything there ran on
[10:04] <edmoore> i'm quite jel of his time there
[10:04] <edmoore> sounds like he did a lot of fun and educational nerding but well out of the spotlight
[10:05] <edmoore> no great high pressures from above to get stuff done yesterday before all the funding runs out
[10:05] <edmoore> 'The Dish' is one of his favourite films because he says it was just spot-on for life at chilbolton
[10:05] <edmoore> except they used to practice tennis serves into the dish rather than cricket
[10:05] <edmoore> and then tilt the dish to the ground to collect all the balls at the end
[10:05] <Vaizki> I remember what a pain it was to get Linux running on 2MB.. I spent a lot of time on it but Linus didn't want to even hear about it
[10:06] <Vaizki> I was in Helsinki Uni for a while with him but all I remember is the parties ;)
[10:06] <Vaizki> and not much of those tbh
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[10:38] <camchris> Is IBMICLSentinel launching from Cambridge? Would they welcome an observer?
[10:39] <edmoore> 1) Yes, 2) NFI
[10:39] <edmoore> adamgreig: around?
[10:40] <adamgreig> yes
[10:40] <adamgreig> around
[10:41] <adamgreig> feel free to come observe
[10:41] <adamgreig> no promise of a launch
[10:41] <camchris> Thanks - Churchill College, right? In the gounds?
[10:42] <adamgreig> That's right
[10:42] <camchris> Okay - Ill cycle over and say hello.
[10:44] <edmoore> adamgreig: is the launch looking flakey?
[10:45] <adamgreig> their helium hasn't arrived
[10:45] <adamgreig> is the most immediately pressing concern
[10:45] <edmoore> that's tiresome
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[11:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Testes_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Testes_chase
[11:02] <AndyEsser> Err...
[11:03] <fsphil> each to their own
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[11:22] <Vaizki> testes_chase in nigeria? that's ballsy.. ;)
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[11:29] <G4YHE> hello all, what's happening with ibmicl sentinal?
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[11:30] <mfa298> update ~45 minutes ago was they were still waiting for the He to arrive
[11:30] <edmoore> it sounds like they are having some organizational issues and so are delayed
[11:30] <G4YHE> ok ta
[11:31] <edmoore> adamgreig is generously giving up his time for them while they try and get their act together
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[11:42] <camchris> Im now on site.
[11:42] <camchris> Still no gas :(
[11:42] <camchris> Theyve got to get some stuff. 15 mins.
[11:43] <camchris> s/got/gone/
[11:43] <Vaizki> oh dear..
[11:44] <daveake> Feel feel to update the "how to mess up" HAB page
[11:44] <edmoore> is churchill bar open?
[11:44] <daveake> though that's about losing the payload rather than spending all day launching it
[11:44] <edmoore> you might aswell enjoy the sun with a pint camchris
[11:45] <daveake> You could send tweets to their payload ...
[11:45] <camchris> There is a garden party later - so the band are tuning up and the croquet pitch is all set up.
[11:45] <fsphil> "Are we there yet #tospace"
[11:45] <camchris> Im outside the Gym.
[11:45] <daveake> "I'm looking at where the gas should be #emptyspace"
[11:46] <camchris> #emptyspace would provide better lift - if you could only contain it :)
[11:46] <fsphil> vacloon
[11:48] <michal_f> daveake: does your PITS board have a LoRa option ?
[11:48] <daveake> There's a separate LoRa board that you can stack with it
[11:48] <michal_f> ahh ok...
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[11:49] <daveake> We have an APRS board too, and you can (I've done it) stack and use all 3 - RTTY, LoRa, APRS
[11:49] <michal_f> I build my tracker heavily inspired by PITS. It's with classic NTX doing RTTY. I wonder how feasible (possible) it would be to add LoRa as a secondary TX...
[11:50] <michal_f> which interface did you use for LoRa. i2c ?
[11:50] <mfa298> daveake: ish page updated (seemed a better fit)
[11:50] <daveake> It's SPI
[11:50] <daveake> Ta mfa298 :)
[11:51] <michal_f> Are the schematics on github up-to-date regarding LoRa connections ?
[11:53] <michal_f> I could steal some more knowledge if you don't mind
[11:55] <edmoore> Joy of this channel is that it's great for knowledge stealing
[11:55] <michal_f> indeed edmoore !
[11:56] <Vaizki> not very good at keeping secrets this lot
[11:56] <michal_f> I'd like to try out LoRa, but there aren't anyu listeners over Poland, afaik
[11:56] <michal_f> so I need to keep RTTY
[11:57] <Vaizki> except Vladimir but he doesn't upload...
[11:58] <daveake> michal_f: I think so ... check the pits github. I know the main board is there but dunno about lora
[11:58] <daveake> But really all it needs is SPI, DIO0, DIO5, aerial and power
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[12:00] <michal_f> ok, I'll have a look definitely. thanks
[12:03] <cm13g09> mfa298: lol at the update
[12:04] <daveake> wossat?
[12:04] <daveake> oh ... 1 sec I'll read :)
[12:04] <daveake> hah :)
[12:05] <cm13g09> something decidedly ish about it
[12:05] <mattbrejza> link for the lazy?
[12:06] <AndyEsser> !wiki ish
[12:06] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Found 036 results for you query - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/start?do=search&id=ish
[12:06] <mattbrejza> close enough
[12:06] <AndyEsser> https://ukhas.org.uk/general:glossary:ish?s[]=ish
[12:06] <michal_f> remove the point with hamsters... someone might come up with an idea to send poor beast to nearspace
[12:15] <daveake> updated (no not the hamster bit)
[12:16] <michal_f> logging up to tracker would be a nice thing though...
[12:17] <AndyEsser> daveake: ha!
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[12:23] <camchris> the gas went to London!
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[12:24] <AndyEsser> err
[12:24] <AndyEsser> How did that happen?
[12:26] <camchris> BOC messed up
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[12:28] <Vaizki> so now the MD of BOC is coming by in his Bentley with a free cylinder of 100% He in the boot? riiight?
[12:29] <daveake> Don't be silly.
[12:29] <daveake> It's a McLaren F1 and a trailer
[12:32] <camchris> ha ha. they're pulling in some local contacts to find some local gas.
[12:32] <AndyEsser> when does NOTAM expire?
[12:33] <mattbrejza> adamgreig: enjoying your wednesday so far?
[12:37] <camchris> BOC in Cambridge are running around to help out.
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[12:40] <edmoore> camwell at least they can blame BOC
[12:41] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Humm NOTAM expires today at 14:00 BST, what a pain.
[12:43] <Oddstr13> in like 15min?
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[12:52] <Vaizki> yea.. ISH..
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[12:55] <mattbrejza> the cusf site is a bit different though, not sure how it all works
[12:57] <gonzo__> isn't bthere a perm notam for cusf?
[12:57] <camchris> No Go. Can't get the gas today.
[12:57] <camchris> try again another day
[12:57] <gonzo__> (ok, I meant, wasn't...)
[12:58] <AndyEsser> http://www.cusf.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Quasarfiring.jpg
[12:58] <AndyEsser> pwetty
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[13:00] <mattbrejza> shortly after the front fell off i believe
[13:01] <Ian_> edmoore, thanks for the heads up earlier :/
[13:02] <craag> gonzo__: It's changed for them now, they just have to give notice a few days in advance.
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[13:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> !flights
[13:07] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Current flights: 03IBMICLSentinel 10(f6d7), 03FLOAT - 2 10(18be), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812)
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[13:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> !flight 18be
[13:07] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Flight 10(18be): 03FLOAT - 2 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 17:00 from 03Essex, UK 10(51.621,0.7031)
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[13:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> Might becoming my way! http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=fb698f154ad1183c4eb70170664b25c739e848be
[13:13] <fsphil> who's launching that one?
[13:14] <craag> Mick
[13:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> Mick
[13:14] <AndyEsser> Mick
[13:14] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03Sky2LoRa after 0318 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Sky2LoRa
[13:14] <fsphil> Mick?
[13:15] <fsphil> Mick!
[13:15] <craag> yay IBM tracker on map ^^
[13:15] <craag> :P
[13:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> Perhaps there trying hot air ;-)
[13:15] <fsphil> ah pico. no hope here
[13:16] <gonzo__> the management said, just launch it, don't care if you don't have gas, that's your problem
[13:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> i hope they are just testing just took the 868MHz ae down!
[13:16] <craag> They have no gas Geoff-G8DHE
[13:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> but I bet there is a lot of hot air there!!!
[13:16] <craag> ;)
[13:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> Hah just looked at the road names around G8KNN, Dave would feel at home there ;-)
[13:20] <cm13g09> craag: punt-astic in here today.....
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[13:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03Sky1LoRa after 0319 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Sky1LoRa
[13:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IBMICLSentinel after 0319 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IBMICLSentinel
[13:43] <garymortimer> Ah back from school run and missed nowt
[13:44] <AndyEsser> http://www.spacex.com/webcast
[13:44] <AndyEsser> linky for todays SpaceX launch in ~45 mins ISH
[13:47] <michal_f> unless they missed gas supply
[13:49] <fsphil> elon musk still writing code for the payload
[13:51] <AndyEsser> fsphil: there's a story about when they were back on Kwaj doing Falcon 1 tests
[13:51] <AndyEsser> with DoD and USAF people there
[13:51] <AndyEsser> something in the code stopped the countdown
[13:51] <AndyEsser> it took 30 mins apparently for SpaceX HQ to write a fix, test it and then update the rocket OTA and resume launch within the window
[13:51] <AndyEsser> apparently this blew the DoD and USAF people away
[13:51] <AndyEsser> normally used to it having to be rolled back into the hanger and waiting a week
[13:52] <AndyEsser> perhaps "blew them away" is the wrong phrase to use when discussing rockets...
[13:53] <daveake> hah :)
[13:54] <daveake> I once did a mod - not a fix but a feature request - from home during the 1-hour gap between races at Brands Hatch
[13:55] <daveake> The phone rang seconds after the first race finished ... "Dave, could you ........."
[13:55] <Vaizki> half my professional life with Telco software is like fixing jet engines during flight...
[13:56] <daveake> This wasn't in the cars (telemetry from them)
[13:56] <fsphil> hah
[13:56] <daveake> The season was about halfway through by the time the TV guys sorted out their bugs
[13:57] <daveake> e.g. it showed a car in 2nd gear then 3rd hen 4th then 2nd then 5th ... whilst on the straight
[13:57] <daveake> I spotted that one, took a DVD from the TV and sent it in
[13:57] <daveake> Caching issue they said
[14:00] <miek> balint seeber's got a great anecdote along similar lines: rebooting an instrument on a satellite while sitting in the audience at defcon
[14:00] <AndyEsser> miek: not quote to the same sort of level
[14:00] <AndyEsser> but I remember getting a phone call about a customer who'd suffered a power outage
[14:00] <AndyEsser> and someone hadn't stored a core switch config to falsh
[14:00] <AndyEsser> flash*
[14:01] <AndyEsser> so whilst in my boss's car, on the Motorway at... 70ish mph
[14:01] <AndyEsser> remoted in to my work P
[14:01] <AndyEsser> PC
[14:01] <AndyEsser> then to the customer site
[14:01] <AndyEsser> and configuring the core switch
[14:03] <russss> spacex launch webcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckjP8stlzxI
[14:06] <adamgreig> how long?
[14:06] <garymortimer> If you zoom in and out in sat view just to the west of the Cambridge launch many now you see them now you don't buildings... please resume your normal programming
[14:06] <AndyEsser> adamgreig: 15:29 the window opens
[14:06] <fsphil> are they going to try a recovery?
[14:06] <adamgreig> cool thanks
[14:06] <AndyEsser> yes
[14:06] <adamgreig> time to finish lunch and cycle to office to watch
[14:06] <AndyEsser> on "Of Course I Still Love You"
[14:07] <fsphil> they're going to need a bigger storage room if they manage it
[14:07] <AndyEsser> it's GTO transfer orbits, so 1st Stage is going to get hammered
[14:07] <fsphil> yeah
[14:07] <AndyEsser> but thye have once successfully landed a similar launch, so fingers crossed
[14:08] <Laurenceb__> twice
[14:08] <AndyEsser> O really?
[14:08] <AndyEsser> I thought the other 2 weren't GTO transfer launches
[14:08] <Laurenceb__> also they seem to have a lot of room to improve re-entry
[14:08] <Laurenceb__> nope
[14:09] <AndyEsser> my mistake then
[14:09] <Laurenceb__> last one was also GTO, and used a more optimised trajectory
[14:09] <AndyEsser> speaking of
[14:09] <AndyEsser> how's the Rockoon?
[14:09] <Laurenceb__> seems that they can use the rocket as a lifting body
[14:09] <Laurenceb__> too much work atm :-/
[14:10] <Laurenceb__> also I might move to London at some point, then it would be full on work :-/
[14:10] <garymortimer> will they show the landing as well?
[14:11] <mattbrejza> they have done in the past
[14:11] <AndyEsser> indeed
[14:11] <AndyEsser> stream started
[14:12] <russss> that link is the technical webcast btw, because I can't deal with their commentators
[14:12] <AndyEsser> really?
[14:12] <AndyEsser> ha
[14:12] <garymortimer> 16 minutes to go
[14:13] <garymortimer> its a pretty slick production
[14:13] <garymortimer> thats where the fire comes out
[14:13] <AndyEsser> lol
[14:14] <garymortimer> Cambridge folks should try synch launch
[14:14] <Laurenceb__> aiui first GTO recovery was more or less ballistic, second used lifting body effects
[14:15] <Laurenceb__> maybe thrid will fine tune things a bit more
[14:15] <AndyEsser> hopefully no bent legs
[14:15] <garymortimer> Do we have to put all these # in to tweet this payload? #getimage, #getmap, #getdata, #getgallery or #tospace to send your tweet to space! or just one....
[14:15] <Laurenceb__> aiui they are trying to reduce heating and peak dynamic pressure
[14:16] <AndyEsser> garymortimer: @ the account, and add #tospace
[14:16] <garymortimer> thanks
[14:16] <AndyEsser> the others are for getting the data, I think
[14:16] <daveake> I can think of a few more hashtags
[14:17] <Laurenceb__> someone on nasaspaceflight has made a matlab sim and tried to recover position/attitudes from the videos
[14:17] <Laurenceb__> aiui there may be room for further improvements to the reentry
[14:18] <daveake> 160.625 deg C it says
[14:18] <Laurenceb__> spacex seems to play it safe and iteratively
[14:18] <SpeedEvil> When the next F9 is recovered - they will in principle have enough second hand rocket engines to fly the barge.
[14:18] <Laurenceb__> but then they can test it almost every 2 or 3 weeks which is crazy fast for aerospace
[14:18] <fsphil> engine chill-out
[14:18] <SpeedEvil> (only for short periods, fuel would be limited to 30s or so I guess)
[14:19] <AndyEsser> Laurenceb__: what does aiui mean?
[14:19] <SpeedEvil> As I understand it.
[14:20] <AndyEsser> Ah
[14:20] <Laurenceb__> s/aiui/ I don't have time to read hundred page threads
[14:20] <fsphil> hah, petrol engine on the webcast
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[14:28] <fsphil> I gotta see one of these for real some day
[14:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE2WMG-10 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE2WMG-10
[14:29] <fsphil> woooo
[14:29] <AndyEsser> BOOOOOM
[14:29] <AndyEsser> have SpaceX had a launch failure since doing the F9?
[14:29] <AndyEsser> (I know they had a few with F1)
[14:30] <mattbrejza> yea theres been 1
[14:30] <russss> they had one partial success and one complete failure
[14:30] <mattbrejza> tank failure of 2nd stage
[14:34] <garymortimer> wow its impressed my 16 year old so it must be cool
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[14:34] <russss> lovely views
[14:35] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah I wondered why they put those out
[14:35] <mattbrejza> huh why have they hidden the entry camera :(
[14:35] <russss> I dunno, they did this last time as well
[14:36] <russss> oh
[14:36] <russss> it's possible they want to use the downlink bandwidth for engine telemetry
[14:36] <fsphil> entry burn startup
[14:36] <russss> that's my bet
[14:37] <mattbrejza> i think theyre being sneaky rather than limiting BW
[14:37] <garymortimer> ah the boat
[14:37] <fsphil> c'mon
[14:37] <mattbrejza> it could have gone out of range of high BW recievers i guess
[14:38] <fsphil> smoke...
[14:38] <mattbrejza> the middle of the ocean needs better internet
[14:38] <AndyEsser> heh
[14:38] <SpeedEvil> :)
[14:38] <fsphil> aww it's frozen
[14:38] <fsphil> smoke, some fire
[14:38] <SpeedEvil> Paused for drama
[14:38] <fsphil> no big boom
[14:38] <staylo> Gone full schrodinger, ffs
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[14:38] <fsphil> silence on the comms
[14:39] <garymortimer> more experimental data we need to capture that term
[14:39] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> :)
[14:39] <fsphil> might have landed and tipped over, killing comms
[14:40] <russss> I think it looked OK but it a bit burny
[14:40] <fsphil> they have a little robot fire hose onboard
[14:40] <garymortimer> rightthen a break, perfect for a balloon launch
[14:40] <SM0ULC-Reb> :)
[14:40] <fsphil> tried to use it a few landings ago, and it couldn't reach the fire
[14:41] <edmoore> any news from churchill in the last hour?
[14:41] <edmoore> had a meeting
[14:41] <mattbrejza> adam has left, no launch
[14:49] <fsphil> mount pointer on the spacex stream confused me for a moment
[14:49] <fsphil> mouse*
[14:50] <AndyEsser> fsphil: lo
[14:50] <AndyEsser> llol*
[14:50] <edmoore> i missed spacex launch
[14:50] <edmoore> did the 1st stage land?
[14:50] <adamgreig> it's definitely landed
[14:50] <russss> it landed, yes, but it appeared to be a bit on fire
[14:51] <russss> then the video cut out
[14:51] <edmoore> right i see
[14:51] <edmoore> oh well
[14:51] <russss> but it did appear to be in the appropriate place with an appropriately low velocity
[14:51] <edmoore> space is hard *shrug*
[14:51] <edmoore> i learnt that from richard branson
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[14:51] <edmoore> nervous-yet-endearing smile
[14:51] <edmoore> such a great entrepreneur
[14:52] <AndyEsser> Have you met him?
[14:52] <fsphil> given their recent string of success, even if this did turn out to have fallen over, it's still going well for them
[14:53] <AndyEsser> still landed more rockets than others :)
[14:54] <fsphil> I suppose the key flight will be when they relaunch one of the recovered stages
[14:54] <edmoore> AndyEsser: no
[14:54] <edmoore> i do know the VG CEO tho
[14:55] <edmoore> i think they would all be happier if he stopped openeing his mouth
[14:55] <edmoore> because mother nature doesn't care about PR and branding
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[14:55] <edmoore> and so his proclamations every year for the last 9 years about how they'll be in space in six months have done no one any favours
[14:55] <AndyEsser> indeed
[14:55] <AndyEsser> http://i.imgur.com/MUQ79sL.jpg
[14:56] <edmoore> I was talking about branson just then btw
[14:56] <fsphil> space ship one/two peaked too soon
[14:56] <AndyEsser> edmoore: I guessed
[14:56] <edmoore> elon musk is walking the walk
[14:56] <edmoore> he is only consistantly 2 years behind where he says they'll be
[14:56] <AndyEsser> Yea, he might be a bit late
[14:56] <edmoore> which is not bad
[14:56] <AndyEsser> but he delivers
[14:56] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Oops they ;lost ot
[14:56] <AndyEsser> confirmed lost
[14:56] <edmoore> tho humans on mars in 2025...
[14:56] <fsphil> ah well
[14:57] <fsphil> will make for some dramatic and expensive video, if they recover the camera :)
[14:57] <fsphil> and some useful data
[14:58] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah yes the experimental data ;-)
[14:58] <SpeedEvil> Alas - F9 S1 has not survived.
[14:58] <fsphil> 1km/s ascent rate
[14:58] <fsphil> nice
[14:58] <gonzo__> I doube we will have humans back on the moon by 2025
[14:59] <Vaizki> why would we?
[14:59] <edmoore> although we got the engineering data we wanted from the parachute testing, i'm still annoyed that the high speed camera got sad
[14:59] <edmoore> that footage would have been so good
[14:59] <adamgreig> "got sad" :P
[15:00] <edmoore> it's an airborne engineering term
[15:00] <edmoore> previous applied to stainless steel injectors that god sad when some high pressure oxygen decided to make friends with them before it'd even flown into the chamber
[15:01] <mattbrejza> so in two days, two hab launches managed to ascend to the total of ~400m...
[15:01] <fsphil> I'm always surprised by how many quite large bits fall off these rockets
[15:02] <WillDWork> yeah - did you see that rattling bit on stage 2 which eventually just came away?
[15:02] <fsphil> there goes another bit. is that ice?
[15:02] <mattbrejza> their altitude counter its a bit buggy
[15:03] <fsphil> or is it something building up on the thruster?
[15:03] <Upu> heh @ Ian_
[15:03] <fsphil> ooh is that the satellite in the distance?
[15:03] <Upu> Can I put my honey order in ?
[15:03] <Ian_> :)
[15:04] <Ian_> Will you be at the conf?
[15:04] <edmoore> me too!
[15:04] <edmoore> i loved that honey
[15:04] <fsphil> it was rather good
[15:04] <fsphil> sadly I didn't finish it, was too much in the jar
[15:04] <Upu> That conference is the first time I'm going to get some sleep in months so yes
[15:04] <fsphil> lol
[15:04] <fsphil> oh nice separation video just now
[15:05] <edmoore> yeah lovely
[15:05] <Ian_> I think that there will be some gizzits and you are on the list. I'm driving down this year, so I'm not quite as limited to what I could carry on public transport.
[15:05] <AndyEsser> mattbrejza: lol
[15:05] <edmoore> on rocket flimsiness, it's amazing how flimsy they really are!
[15:06] <Ian_> Not for infants under 12 months. What was the date and the weight upu? Congrats!
[15:06] <edmoore> every gram counts so it's really where you actually have to know your structures
[15:06] <edmoore> give it 10% margin and no more
[15:06] <edmoore> but a lot of it is definitely 'only just no breaking' territory
[15:06] <Upu> Evie Alice 3.055kg (6lb 11.5) 03.25am on Sat
[15:06] <edmoore> so analysis is key
[15:06] <Upu> and yes we know under 12mths can't have it
[15:07] <AndyEsser> congrats Upu btw
[15:07] <Upu> unless its a russian rocket which are just made from girders
[15:07] <Upu> cheers AndyEsser
[15:07] <edmoore> how many hrs sleep have you had since she arrived Upu?
[15:08] <Upu> no idea but its not much
[15:08] <Upu> last night was good got two 2.5hour stints
[15:09] <edmoore> extrapolating, i make that 'not enough'
[15:09] <edmoore> talk of the devil, there's a space ship 2 update video
[15:09] <AndyEsser> link?
[15:11] <AndyEsser> @SpaceX #Falcon9 launch: both satellites deployed successfully, but booster rocket had a bit of exploding on landing. 2 out of 3, not bad!
[15:11] <AndyEsser> "had a bit of exploding on landing"
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[15:14] <Vaizki> maybe it's just pining for the fjords
[15:14] <daveake> parity error
[15:15] <edmoore> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XffMFIGpz9U
[15:16] <AndyEsser> ta
[15:21] <edmoore> oh good
[15:21] <edmoore> nicola blackwell mp, my local one and chair of house of commons select committee, had officially stated that it would be stupid to make the UK spaceport only for suborbital horizontal launch
[15:22] <edmoore> i.e. build it for richard branson who will never come
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[15:22] <edmoore> and instead needs to be vertical launch for space
[15:22] <edmoore> to support the uk space idustry which is all about satellites and naff-all about tourism
[15:23] <fsphil> that seems oddly logical for an MP
[15:23] <edmoore> yes
[15:23] <edmoore> she listens
[15:24] <edmoore> our local mp at work is john bercow who has the least convincing 'i'm listening to you' face I've ever come across
[15:27] <adamgreig> http://hydrogen-peroxide.us/history-UK/Black_Arrow-R3-Clears-Pad.jpg
[15:27] <adamgreig> glory days
[15:28] <russss> ridiculous looking thing
[15:28] <fsphil> it does seem oddly proportioned
[15:29] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Nice lack of smoke however!
[15:29] <fsphil> saw the one in the science museum, looks great up close
[15:30] <edmoore> it worked tho
[15:30] <edmoore> it'd be perfect today
[15:30] <edmoore> would totally answer the market need for smallsats
[15:31] <edmoore> swapping some steels for alis and some avionics for lighter modern stuff and you'd get the payload up to 500kg ish
[15:31] <AndyEsser> edmoore: what sort of mass are smallsats?
[15:31] <edmoore> to sun sync
[15:31] <AndyEsser> answered, nvm
[15:31] <edmoore> maybe 100-200kg for smallsats?
[15:31] <edmoore> nanosats are low kg
[15:31] <AndyEsser> for my learning exercise for design, maths, etc
[15:32] <AndyEsser> I was looking at deliverable payload of 200kg
[15:32] <edmoore> cubesats on their own will probably never justify a dedicated launcher but one launcher deploying as large no of cubesats might
[15:32] <edmoore> putting up a constellation at once, say
[15:32] <AndyEsser> Yea, presumed it'd be a case of deploying like 100 cubesats at once
[15:32] <edmoore> black arrow had a solid upper stage
[15:32] <edmoore> that'd be no use as you'd want relights for constellationd eployment
[15:32] <edmoore> which would inevitably be a bit heavier to get an actively guided liquid upper
[15:32] <edmoore> but still, they did that in the 60s
[15:33] <edmoore> and it's exactly the class of rocket you could lob off the coast of northern scotland right now
[15:34] <edmoore> as for proportions, it's only really that most rockets now are derived from IBMs which had to accelerate fast
[15:34] <edmoore> and so were quite long and thin and thrusty
[15:34] <edmoore> ICBMs*
[15:34] <edmoore> but it can be more squat if you accelerate more slowly
[15:34] <edmoore> though you get gravity losses
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[15:35] <fsphil> the quicker it gets out of the lower atmosphere the better tough?
[15:35] <edmoore> (look at the space shuttle for example)
[15:35] <fsphil> though*
[15:35] <edmoore> not really
[15:35] <edmoore> the slower the better from a drag pov
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[15:35] <edmoore> as the friction goes with the square of velocity
[15:35] <edmoore> but the faster the better from a gravity loss pov
[15:35] <fsphil> hmm hadn't thought of that
[15:35] <fsphil> so there's a sweet spot
[15:35] <edmoore> gravity loss is what proportion of your fuel you spend overcoming gravity
[15:36] <edmoore> so if you have a thrust to weight of 1:1 you will just cancel gravity and hover there and use all your fuel going nowehere
[15:36] <edmoore> 100% gone to gravity losses
[15:36] <edmoore> if you increase acceleration you spend less of a fraction of your fuel just fighting 1G
[15:36] <edmoore> but increase your aero loading and friction losses
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[15:36] <edmoore> the balance is somewhere in the middle
[15:37] <edmoore> also tied into acceleration and vibration and buffeting loads the structure and payload can take
[15:37] <AndyEsser> edmoore: launching from scotland wouldn't be ideal for LEO orbit though?
[15:37] <AndyEsser> or are differences as you move further away from the equater neglible?
[15:39] <edmoore> there are multiple different kinds of orbit
[15:39] <edmoore> only some want to be equatorial
[15:39] <edmoore> so equator launch
[15:39] <edmoore> others want to be polar
[15:39] <edmoore> or sun-sync
[15:39] <edmoore> (or anything else really but those are common)
[15:39] <edmoore> a lot of leo stuff is polar
[15:39] <edmoore> say you want to image the whole world with your ground radar
[15:39] <edmoore> you loop over the north and south poles as the earth turns beneath you every 24hrs
[15:39] <edmoore> lovely job
[15:39] <edmoore> all the world
[15:40] <edmoore> so scotland is perfect for that
[15:40] <edmoore> or anything else where there's northing to land on if you go north
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[15:43] <edmoore> don't think that's ever happened before
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[15:54] <AndyEsser> edmoore: sorry, I should've used my words better. I know a polar orbit would be better for imaging the planet etc - I guess I should've specified an equatorial orbit
[15:56] <Laurenceb__> UK is kind of bad for equatorial
[15:56] <edmoore> sure but you wouldn't launch equatorial from scotland
[15:56] <edmoore> you're right
[15:56] <edmoore> it's a polar launch site
[15:56] <AndyEsser> Which was my thought, but edmoore did clarify and say Scotland is fine for polar
[15:57] <edmoore> but that's plenty of market for small sats
[15:57] <edmoore> which are mostly earth obs and so on
[15:57] Action: AndyEsser looks at land prices in Scotland
[15:57] <Laurenceb__> wonder if the electron launcher would be suitable
[15:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KA7NSR-15 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KA7NSR-15
[15:57] <edmoore> gtg
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[16:00] <Laurenceb__> falcon9 failure seems a bit weird
[16:01] <Laurenceb__> if the engine fires up and the pumps are running, how come it would produce a significantly off nominal thrust
[16:03] <Laurenceb__> maybe mr musk is bullshitting again
[16:04] <AndyEsser> damaged injector?
[16:04] <AndyEsser> malfunctioning turbopump
[16:04] <russss> it didn't look that hard a landing to me
[16:04] <AndyEsser> damage to the nozzle
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[16:04] <russss> although difficult to tell
[16:04] <Laurenceb__> russss: well 1 of the three engines was underperforming
[16:04] <fsphil> landing leg failure again?
[16:05] <Laurenceb__> and it was a side engine, so even if it never turned on that only 25% of ~220m/s
[16:05] <Laurenceb__> its going to be some fraction of ~50m/s impact velocity, so not huge
[16:05] <russss> hmm, fair
[16:06] <russss> I wonder what their target landing velocity range is. probably fairly narrow.
[16:06] <Laurenceb__> I've guess <4m/s
[16:06] <Laurenceb__> *I'd
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[16:07] <russss> will be interesting to see the video
[16:07] <adamgreig> anyone done much antenna/microstrip/EM simulation work?
[16:07] <Laurenceb__> where also v>0, v!=NaN and Im(v)==0
[16:07] <Laurenceb__> and I'm sure there is a physical analogue of all of those
[16:07] <adamgreig> only near black holes perhaps
[16:08] <pd3jag> how is it with lora float2 ???
[16:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> Just RTTY I believe for Float-2
[16:10] <pd3jag> oke
[16:10] <pd3jag> waiting for the signals from the balloon here hihi
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[16:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> Need to remember that FLOAT-2 only transmits 3 times an hour!
[16:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> xx:00, xx:20 & xx:40
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[16:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G6SQX Coverage test_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G6SQX%20Coverage%20test_chase
[16:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N7ERU-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N7ERU-11
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[16:41] <AndyEsser> DL1SGP: he's not been on since you last checked
[16:42] <DL1SGP> Hi AndyEsser was more a wrong keystroke I performed :) sorry if it annoyed you
[16:42] <AndyEsser> not at all
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[16:43] <DL1SGP> They want to launch with us on weekend and I have not spoken to him since he last was seen here... so that is getting a bit exciting :)
[16:43] <DL1SGP> But I got his mobile number so I can terrorize him on there :)
[16:44] <AndyEsser> yea, probably worth just dropping him a text
[16:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CAEN_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CAEN_chase
[16:45] <DL1SGP> yeah from our side all is set for them I guess :) but I need some details for the PR work
[16:47] <AndyEsser> send him a text "WO IST DU?!!!!!!"
[16:49] <DL1SGP> heh "Wo bist du?" I hope it will turn out fine... not getting a status in a while is kinda scary :P
[16:50] <DL1SGP> so I hope to get in touch with him after my upcoming appointment. then mailing list work, information to local HAMs on how to decode a HAB ... and so on :)
[16:50] <AndyEsser> DL1SGP: it's like... 15 years since I did german
[16:50] <AndyEsser> I was close :P
[16:51] <DL1SGP> Let's blame a goat that got stuck under your B :)
[16:51] <AndyEsser> :)
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[16:55] <DL1SGP> yeah so as mentioned yesterday we gonna do 4 starts, 1 modded DFM-06 as pilot (0700), followed by club payload (0730), followed by Lunar_Lander&Team (0830) and then the school project (0930) all times UTC +/- ISH
[16:56] <AndyEsser> on Saturday?
[16:56] <DL1SGP> indeed
[16:56] <AndyEsser> got a predicted flight path?
[16:57] <DL1SGP> will be going north from here... gimme a sec
[16:59] <DL1SGP> http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=67a55870303b0bd6161e74f1f71522ab25e073ed
[16:59] <DL1SGP> oh wait :D wrong time
[16:59] <DL1SGP> http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=32d9be6b35a8d9bc0f972e8c91ab7dc1f7b20ea8
[17:00] <AndyEsser> bit far away for me to track :P
[17:01] <DL1SGP> that's what I keep saying for the UK launches lol
[17:02] <DL1SGP> I hate that prediction :) will take us right into the NATO training grounds
[17:05] <DL1SGP> we visited the military last friday, there is a meteorology unit at Bergen: http://www.darc-celle.de/haarob-16/234-haarob-16-projektlinks-8.html
[17:11] <JonnyImperial> Does anyone know what happened to the ibm imperial flight today?
[17:11] <AndyEsser> gas didn't turn up
[17:12] <JonnyImperial> oh
[17:12] <AndyEsser> it got sent to london instead, by accident
[17:12] <JonnyImperial> hahaha
[17:12] <JonnyImperial> thanks
[17:12] <JonnyImperial> good to hear that it didn't take off and get lost
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[17:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03CAEN_CP1 after 034 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CAEN_CP1
[17:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F-2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F-2
[17:20] <fsphil> another gravitational wave even detected by ligo
[17:21] <fsphil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG19o2PmnNo
[17:21] <SpeedEvil> 14/8 solar masses emitting one solar mass of energy.
[17:21] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah ha Float-2 appears
[17:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N7ERU-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N7ERU-12
[17:22] <fsphil> it's quite odd to think of matter being converted into gravity
[17:23] <fsphil> I'm not even sure what that means
[17:23] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !dial F-2
[17:23] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Latest dials for 03F-2 10(18be): 03434.068636 MHz
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[17:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah can see it not quite decode at present ...
[17:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial F-2
[17:42] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03F-2 10(18be): 03434.0686 MHz, 434.068636 MHz, 434.0684 MHz, 434.06885 MHz
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[17:56] <garymortimer> oh dear did float go silent key
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[17:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> Need to remember that FLOAT-2 only transmits 3 times an hour!
[17:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> xx:00, xx:20 & xx:40
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[17:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> just did its first ident
[17:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> second ident carrier
[18:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> telemetry
[18:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> end
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[18:02] <garymortimer> It lives!
[18:03] <garymortimer> Ah sorry I did'nt know that!
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[18:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> ident carrier
[18:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> first
[18:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> second ident carrier
[18:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> telemetry
[18:26] <pd3jag> this is shit from f2 , signal good but the time between signal is bad. why this way and not like normale?????
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[18:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its a long duration floater, this way he keeps power demand down.
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[18:44] <AndyEsser> pd3jag: it's a long term floater
[18:44] <AndyEsser> this reduces power usage
[18:44] <PE2BZ> !flights
[18:44] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03IBMICLSentinel 10(f6d7), 03FLOAT - 2 10(18be), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812)
[18:44] <PE2BZ> !whereis f6d7
[18:44] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: I haven't got a clue
[18:45] <Geoff-G8DHE> Still on the ground the Helium was deleivered to the wrong place :-(
[18:45] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: didn't launch
[18:46] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser thanks. And would you knwo something about F-2 on the map ?
[18:46] <AndyEsser> what do you want to know?
[18:46] <PE2BZ> The payload ? Seems in my reach ;-)
[18:47] <AndyEsser> Are you subscribed to the mailing list?
[18:47] <PE2BZ> Sorry, guess that is FLOAT - 2 ?
[18:47] <PE2BZ> !payload 18be
[18:47] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03F-2 10(18be) 03$$F-2 - 03434.07 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/425Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[18:47] <Geoff-G8DHE> Need to remember that FLOAT-2 only transmits 3 times an hour!
[18:47] <Geoff-G8DHE> xx:00, xx:20 & xx:40
[18:49] <PE2BZ> That´s not much.... And btw, I am not subscribed to ¨the mailing list¨ , I do visit the UKHAS group every now and then
[18:49] <AndyEsser> Ah ok
[18:49] <PE2BZ> Which mailing list do you mean ?
[18:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> UKHAS group on Google is the Mailing list
[18:50] <PE2BZ> Thanks Geoff
[18:52] <PE2BZ> !dial 18be
[18:52] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03F-2 10(18be): 03434.068998 MHz, 434.0691 MHz, 434.068636 MHz, 434.06819 MHz, 434.0684 MHz, 434.06885 MHz
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[19:02] <Laurenceb__> http://imgur.com/a/gxHmC
[19:02] <Laurenceb__> interesting, looks like there was a fire
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[19:02] <AndyEsser> yea, we saw that on the stream
[19:02] <AndyEsser> bit flame-y
[19:03] <Laurenceb__> I'm guessing the fabric failed around the engines again and something got damaged on a fuel line
[19:03] <PE2BZ> $$$$F-2,002,19:00:28,+5200.0720,+00103.0706,05506,+00.4*5F
[19:03] <PE2BZ> $$$$F-2,003,19:00:43,+5200.0990,+00103.0586,05511,+00.3*5D
[19:03] <Laurenceb__> didnt realise it lasted 4 seconds, it looked like normalmflame for a while
[19:04] <Laurenceb__> wonder if there was a fuel leak causing engine issue and a fire, but the fire was what killed it
[19:04] <AndyEsser> will just have to wait and see
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[19:11] <Laurenceb__> yeah, guys on nasaspaceflight managed to get shots up the bottom of previous recovered boosters during transport, and the fabric skirts had failed during re-entry, causing damage to engine hardware
[19:11] <Laurenceb__> I'm betting same happened here and they got unlucky with fuel hydralics ruptured
[19:12] <Laurenceb__> someone needs to talk to their 3M rep and get some ceramic fabric :D
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[19:15] <Laurenceb__> yay firefox killed my machine again
[19:17] <edmoore> DL1SGP: zeusbot has a message feature
[19:18] <edmoore> You can send a message to a user which zuesbot will deliver when they next come onto the channel
[19:19] <edmoore> Like that
[19:19] <edmoore> Zuesbot just sent me a pm to say it will give that measage to lunar next time
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[21:14] <Vaizki> hehe Deimos posts imagery of the drone ship.. https://twitter.com/deimosimaging/status/743153542362439680
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[21:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M4 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M4
[21:22] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> could do with a Hysplit for F-2 ....
[21:23] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !ping f-2
[21:23] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Last contact with 03F-2 was 032 minutes ago
[21:23] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !whereis f-2
[21:23] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: 03F-2 is over 03Suffolk, UK 10(52.08441,0.84689) at 036396 meters
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[21:28] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=39f3834ab02c188c645ee1e18d5675703db4eb9b
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[21:31] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> more F-2 predictions http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/162041_trj001.gif
[21:33] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> its going for a slow route
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