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[07:00] <edmoore> richardeoin: you're on a course to hit Tromso (haven't looked at prediction just last heading)
[07:01] <edmoore> i went there once and it was a pretty amazing place
[07:02] <edmoore> now that 3d video cameras are a thing, a hab flight into the northern lights would be fun
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[08:03] <michal_f_off> wow, ubseds15 still alive
[08:07] <michal_f_off> nice
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[08:09] <SM0ULC-Reb> yepp :)
[08:09] <michal_f_off> it's making circles over Crimea, Kamchatka, northern Russia...
[08:09] <michal_f_off> MI6 had smrh to do here ? ;]
[08:10] <SM0ULC-Reb> a bit annoying id the geo-fence so it is in contact with norway outside its borders.. :)
[08:13] <michal_f_off> trackers with APRS require a HAM license, yes ?
[08:15] <gonzo___> do you mean for the ballon or the groundstations?
[08:17] <gonzo___> the balloon should be under someoen's licence/callsign. But it's all a bit of a messy situation. As the balloon may be drifting over countries where that licence amy not be valid 9or have an agreement) or where airborn AR is not allowed
[08:17] <SM0ULC-Reb> michal_f_off: yes
[08:18] <michal_f_off> too bad I have no license... maybe it's time to think about it
[08:18] <gonzo___> groundstations are jus receive. So no licence required. But I expect that the people who run the aprs internet linking prob use callsigns to reference rx stations. so would need a licence just to be able to upload data
[08:18] <gonzo___> (though it may be poss to u[pling aprs directly to habhub??)
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[08:23] <SM0ULC-Reb> trying to really sort out if airborne transmitters are ok, there have been numerous before...
[08:31] <gonzo___> michal_f_off, what country are you in/launching from
[08:35] <michal_f_off> Poland
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[08:36] <SA6BSS-Mike> u want to go floaters arouind the world or up7down balloons?
[08:36] <gonzo___> ok, I don't know what the laws are for balloons/AR in poland. Possibly someone else here may know?
[08:36] <michal_f> I did just one balloon until now and it was up/down
[08:36] <gonzo___> but getting an AR licence is not a bad thing anyway
[08:36] <michal_f> I plan another one next month
[08:36] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok, then u know that the hab comunity in Poland is quite large, alot of listeners
[08:37] <michal_f> yeah :)
[08:37] <SA6BSS-Mike> always keeping an eye on http://sp7pki.iq24.pl/default.asp?grupa=230409
[08:37] <michal_f> I though winter is a good time to try building a tracker for a floater
[08:37] <michal_f> SA6BSS-Mike: thanks, I'm watching it closely :)
[08:38] <SA6BSS-Mike> :)
[08:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G6SQX mobile_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G6SQX%20mobile_chase
[08:39] <michal_f> where are you based SA6BSS-Mike ?
[08:41] <SA6BSS-Mike> south of sweden
[08:41] <SA6BSS-Mike> usuli in range of northern up/down flights from Poland
[08:42] <SA6BSS-Mike> u see my radio tower in a moment on habhub tracker
[08:44] <michal_f> I can see you
[08:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> same here , u ?r in Warsaw
[08:45] <michal_f> yeah
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[09:36] <chris___> Hi, is anyone online at the moment?
[09:36] <craag> Hi chris___
[09:36] <craag> (phil here)
[09:37] <chris___> Good morning Craag
[09:37] <chris___> I hope all is well with you.
[09:37] <craag> Yes good thanks, you?
[09:38] <chris___> Good thanks. Just getting ready for my flight tomorrow.... which won't happen if permission does not come through
[09:38] <craag> Fingers crossed!
[09:39] <chris___> I've only been let down twice... that is a good hit rate
[09:40] <chris___> I was thinking GCHQ may have intervened
[09:41] <chris___> Craag, do you know how to bring up #HABHUB
[09:41] <craag> yes, type: /join #habhub
[09:41] <AndyEsser> chris___: "/join #habhub"
[09:41] <AndyEsser> o
[09:42] <craag> and press enter ;)
[09:42] <chris___> Cool beans. Thanks
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[10:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G6SQX_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G6SQX_chase
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[10:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE2WMG-11 after 0312 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE2WMG-11
[10:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE2WMG-10 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE2WMG-10
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[12:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03QM-SkyPi-2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=QM-SkyPi-2
[12:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03QM-SkyPi-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=QM-SkyPi-1
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[13:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[15:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM4QLE-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4QLE-7
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[15:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD9GEG-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD9GEG-11
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[17:18] <chris____> hi there
[17:20] <chris____> Hi there. Just to let you all know that my launch permission has come through. Fingers crossed I will launch between 11 and 12 tomorrow :-)
[17:21] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Is the frequency 434.25 the right one ?
[17:28] <Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/AXGUv3.jpg
[17:29] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> :-)
[17:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03chavani gp_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=chavani%20gp_chase
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[18:08] <gonzo___> that will be +ish time I assume
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[18:09] <asdasd> hello?
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[18:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K6RPT-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-12
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[19:21] <SM0ULC-Reb> but good, at least swe can be checked off as open
[19:25] <SA6BSS-Mike> yep, that mail made it clear that aprs is legit airborn in Sweden
[19:31] <Vaizki> mmm nice
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[20:33] <diyaricl> hi, i'm testing transmission to habhub, how can I see the telemetry and payload on the tracker?
[20:33] <diyaricl> can find my SSDV on ssdv.habhub.org
[20:35] <fsphil> are you getting text/messages in dl-fldigi?
[20:36] <diyaricl> currently using LoRa to transmit our data
[20:37] <fsphil> ah lora
[20:37] <fsphil> is it showing any indication the packets being received?
[20:38] <diyaricl> our SSDVs are being showing up so i assume yes
[20:40] <fsphil> ah I misread, thought you said you couldn't see the ssdv images
[20:40] <fsphil> you can see uploaded text here: http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/
[20:40] <fsphil> you don't seem to have a payload document setup in habhub
[20:41] <fsphil> without that it won't understand the string
[20:41] <diyaricl> theres no option for LoRa transmission in the payload document
[20:42] <diyaricl> how should we specify the radio specifications
[20:43] <fsphil> you don't have to set that
[20:43] <fsphil> just skip it and go to the parse config
[20:45] <diyaricl> will check documents
[20:47] <fsphil> what's the screen in the images? </nosey>
[20:52] <diyaricl> its an OLED
[20:53] <diyaricl> hopefully it will display stuff we send to the payload
[20:54] <diyaricl> like tweets people send us
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[21:19] <mfa298> diyaricl: you're unlikely to receive any new tweets on the payload after you've launched it
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[21:20] <diyaricl> hence why i said hopefully :P
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[21:27] <chris____> HI Geoff, i have been testing today and received it on 434.250.8
[21:28] <chris____> Gonzo, the aim is for 11:30 but it depends on traffic and showers. Things have tested well after a lot of faffing tonight so it should be close to 11:30
[21:29] <chris____> Sorry for these late replies but I've been getting everything ready and dealing with children
[21:29] <craag> Looking forward to watching chris____ :) Good luck!
[21:30] <chris____> Hey diyaricl - are you planning to show tweeted messages on your HAB flight?
[21:33] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> chris____, its just that mu system picks up the frequency from the Flight doc announcment and all the previous ones have been totally incorrect!
[21:34] <mfa298> chris____: good luck, hopefully you'll have a few people trying to help track
[21:34] <fsphil> oh launch tomorrow?
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[21:37] <diyaricl> yea if our payload manages to recieve it
[21:37] <chris____> Geoff, I think it is the case that I'm still getting used to things. Last weeks HABduino flight was not right. I said 434.621... which is what I get in the kitchen but people were receiving at 434.651
[21:38] <chris____> The PITS is different. I can set it. It is set at 434.250. I listen to it in the kitchen at 434.250.8 on my yupi but people have been able to listen in at other frequencies
[21:38] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> OK will take a look for it ..
[21:38] <chris____> I dont' know why but it is set at 434.250
[21:38] <chris____> So sorry for any bother in your rig not finding it there
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[21:38] <chris____> Thanks Geoff
[21:39] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Not worried by a few KHz but in the past its been several 100KHz out I think you had an old payload document maybe.
[21:39] <fsphil> chris____: we have a theory that you where in fact receiving an alias of the signal, rather than the signal itself
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[21:40] <mfa298> chris____: it might be if you're close to it you're picking up an image of the real signal. Sometimes removing the antenna from the receiver (and sometiems transmitter as well) can help find the real signal
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[21:40] <chris____> I understand. So maybe when I am testing I should put it up the garden and not in the next room.
[21:40] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> or disconnect the aerials
[21:41] <chris____> I'll try that too
[21:41] <mfa298> some distance is always good for testing as well.
[21:41] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> during testing at short range
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[21:42] <chris____> The one thing I notice is that there are not just two bands but ... and this may be the wrong word... echoes with a series of bands
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[21:43] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !flight NSPB41
[21:43] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[21:43] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !flight NSBP41
[21:43] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[21:44] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !flight scooby
[21:44] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[21:44] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !flights
[21:44] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Current flights: 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812)
[21:45] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ahanother 15 minutes to go till the start of window
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[21:51] <chris____> Night all!
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[22:01] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !flights
[22:01] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Current flights: 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812)
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[22:02] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ha UTC of course
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[23:01] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> !flights
[23:01] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Tab: Current flights: 03NSBP41 10(0aba), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812)
[23:01] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> !flight nsbp41
[23:01] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Tab: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[23:02] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> !flight 0aba
[23:02] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Tab: Flight 10(0aba): 03NSBP41 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Tomorrow at 10:00 from 03Gloucestershire, UK 10(51.86931,-2.24173)
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