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[01:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W7QO-9 after 0312 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W7QO-9
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[06:41] <PE2BZ> !flights
[06:41] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03Barnaby_Hi-Impact 10(afe2), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812)
[06:42] <PE2BZ> !payload afe2
[06:42] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03Barnaby_Hi-Impact 10(afe2) 03$$BARNABY - 03Primary - 03434.65 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/425Hz ASCII-7 none 2
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[08:50] <Vaizki> finally found a reasonable bench dmm, 34401A for 240 euros
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[08:56] <fsphil> nice. have an ebay watch for that model, not seen any that cheap
[08:56] <fsphil> well, not one that works anyway
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[09:06] <Vostok_> i finally bought a scope
[09:06] <Vaizki> well I'm picking it up locally on Monday so I won't find out if I really scored one before that :)
[09:06] <Vaizki> Vostok_: no teasing
[09:06] <Vostok_> 1054z
[09:06] <Vaizki> good boy
[09:06] <Vostok_> i know
[09:06] <Vaizki> all praise the rigol
[09:12] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !flights
[09:12] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Current flights: 03Barnaby_Hi-Impact 10(afe2), 03PICO-25 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(0b32), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812)
[09:13] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !flight afe2
[09:13] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Flight 10(afe2): 03Barnaby_Hi-Impact 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 10:30 from 03Powys, UK 10(52.63359,-3.14155)
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[09:37] <garymortimer> Hi all, Barnaby still a go??
[09:38] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Hopefully nothing visible yet
[09:38] <fsphil> ,
[09:38] <garymortimer> Cool thanks
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[10:03] <PE2BZ> !payload afe2
[10:03] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03Barnaby_Hi-Impact 10(afe2) 03$$BARNABY - 03Primary - 03434.65 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/425Hz ASCII-7 none 2
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[10:09] <JonnyAlpha> Is Barnaby operating yet?
[10:09] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Nothing visible on the tracker or signal wise hear! but its not due till 11:30 at earliest
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[10:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BARNABY - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARNABY
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[10:50] <Vaizki> Barnaby should launch from South Oxfordshire
[10:52] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> So why's that ?
[10:53] <Vaizki> that's where he lives on the telly.../coat
[10:53] <fsphil> I'm not great with geography, but that's not oxfordshire :)
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[10:54] <Vaizki> umm as I said? :)
[10:54] <fsphil> oooh fictional character
[10:55] <fsphil> never seen that show
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[11:09] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh its up all of a sudden!
[11:10] <daveake> Can't wait for Misc1 and Misc2 to be non zero
[11:11] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Oris it just a GPS altitude glitch ?
[11:11] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Nope fpr real
[11:13] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !dial Barnaby
[11:13] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Latest dials for 03Barnaby_Hi-Impact 10(afe2): none
[11:13] <mfa298> sounds like I can hear it here, now just need dl-fldigi to finish compiling so save rebooting into windows
[11:13] <daveake> Heading for the Shropshire hills ... that's where my last flight landed. Pretty area.
[11:14] <edmoore> don't like the sound of hi impact
[11:17] <garymortimer> Very pretty area
[11:17] <AndyEsser> bit steep for my liking
[11:18] <JonnyAlpha> I have my AOR connected to a Log Periodic pointing North ish and a Yupiteru connected to a Yagi (hand held) nothing yet? CAEN_MC1
[11:19] <garymortimer> Family stomping ground
[11:20] <garymortimer> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortimer_Trail
[11:20] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Could depend on local hills, I wont see a signal until its around 12Km at that range, as the local chalk hills suk it up!
[11:20] <gonzo_> have a friend living right under the predicted path. Have pinged him to lsiten
[11:21] <gonzo_> Though he won't have a decode facility (well, apart from 19" rack and mech teleprinter)
[11:22] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !dial Barnaby
[11:22] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Latest dials for 03Barnaby_Hi-Impact 10(afe2): 03434.651 MHz
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[11:46] <PE2BZ> Barnaby in the greens from Holland.
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[11:54] <JonnyAlpha> Should I have my Antennas Horizontally or Vertically positioned?
[11:54] <PE2BZ> For HAB reception ? Vertically
[11:54] <mfa298> HABs are generally vertically polarised
[11:55] <JonnyAlpha> So the antenna should be matched i.e. elements towards the sky?
[11:57] <gonzo_> yes
[11:57] <JonnyAlpha> Yes HAB trying to pick up Barnaby, I dont have a great deal of Left to Right control on the Log Antenna as is clamped to a washing pole but I can raise and lower the angle that it is pointing towards.
[11:57] <PE2BZ> Depends on the height and distance. For me, at 486 km, the elevation should be 0.4 degrees.
[11:58] <gonzo_> for habs at most distances, there is no need to elevate the antenna (point it upwards)
[11:58] <gonzo_> just getting it as clear a sight of the horison is best
[11:58] <JonnyAlpha> How do you calculate the elevation?
[11:59] <JonnyAlpha> Big house in the way :-) (My house)
[11:59] <gonzo_> I do elevate my yagi a little, as i am in a valley, so I am pointing it up towards my local horison
[11:59] <mfa298> JonnyAlpha: working out elevation should be basic trig, distance to balloon, height of balloons.
[11:59] <gonzo_> can you go to an upstairs window, on the HAB side of the hosue, tio get a better path?
[12:00] <mfa298> although once you've got a good sentence dl-fldigi should tell you what the distance and elevation is (tells me 302km and 5.6 degrees)
[12:00] <gonzo_> a balloon at 20km height and 100or do km away, is not much elevation
[12:01] <gonzo_> and certainly not enough to need you to elevate a logP antenna
[12:01] <gonzo_> (log P is roughly equv to a 3ele yagi. So quite a wide beamwidth)
[12:02] <JonnyAlpha> Just jumped up onto my Garage roof with the Yagi (Home made by Appledore Amateur Radio Club) picked up Barnaby straight away :-)
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[12:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9PD - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9PD
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[12:10] <tweetBot> @DutchMillbt: Tracking BARNABY high altitude balloon (UK) @434.650 MHz ssb #hamradio #hamr #ukhas see: https://t.co/cbtpbRkMGh
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[12:14] <fsphil> height is everything
[12:14] <fsphil> for > HF anyway
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[12:16] <JonnyAlpha> battery died on the laptop :-)
[12:17] <G3MCD> Good signals from Barnaby being received now in Cornwall
[12:17] <JonnyAlpha> picking it up with AOR but Yupy cannot hear it??
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[12:22] <mfa298> looks like burst
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[12:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WillT_Berkhamsted_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WillT_Berkhamsted_chase
[12:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BerkoHAB Telemetry_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BerkoHAB%20Telemetry_chase
[12:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BerkoHAB_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BerkoHAB_chase
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[12:34] <JonnyAlpha> Just as I finished setting up the Log Peridoic Antenna on the roof Barnaby was Eartth bound and to low :-(
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[12:36] <gonzo_> options... map/satellite/dark matter?!
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[12:48] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Looks like a good landing site!
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[12:52] <gonzo_> some 11kv lines, but otherwise pertty open and tree free
[12:52] <gonzo_> are they chasinG?
[12:57] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> There is also an aerial mast shown on the OS map ....
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[13:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ5FNQ-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ5FNQ-12
[13:28] <tweetBot> @hiimpactmrc: Many thanks to all those tracking Barnaby Space Balloon #ukhas. A great project with 3 Macclesfield schools @BarnabyFestival and hi-impact
[13:29] <gonzo_> that's quite a big lad too
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[13:54] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.4799735,-2.9676021,3a,75y,30.24h,81.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssXLOtxeTUd-JdTe-AqUKTg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
[13:54] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Provied it hasn't caught the 11Kv lines should be an easy retrieve!
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[14:27] <gonzo_> if they cuaght the mast, that coudld be a first
[14:27] <daveake> I was close to landing on a radio dish once
[14:32] <gonzo_> even better
[14:33] <gonzo_> the higher the freq, the more HAB points??
[14:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03CAEN_CP1 after 0319 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CAEN_CP1
[14:38] <daveake> This one http://www.chilbolton.stfc.ac.uk/Chilbolton/default.aspx
[14:38] <daveake> Later in the year it would have landed on a crop circle
[14:47] <gonzo_> drawn in by the ley line force?
[14:49] <daveake> Opposite ... it aimed straight for the dish, stopped 200 metres away and did a sharp right
[14:50] <daveake> I hope they weren't feeding SETI :p
[14:51] <gonzo_> www.g0nzo.co.uk/misc/ral.jpg
[14:51] <gonzo_> at that time (10yrs ago) they were taking datya from the stereo satellites/probes
[14:52] <gonzo_> the control room for it was built into an old apollo missions console, with lots of original kit left in, just for show
[14:52] <gonzo_> got an afternoon tour/demo/play
[14:54] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Not found
[14:54] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> http://g0nzo.no-ip.com:8080/misc/ral.jpg
[14:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0MVU - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0MVU
[14:57] <gonzo_> hmmmm, odd
[14:57] <gonzo_> must be n apache setting?
[14:57] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah http://g0nzo.no-ip.com:8080/misc/ral.JPG
[14:58] <gonzo_> hmmm, ok. I see
[14:59] <gonzo_> I thought urls were not case sensitive?
[14:59] <gonzo_> poss onl;y if the server is windoze?
[14:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Windows isn't but never noticed the situation before!
[15:00] <gonzo_> I usually cut and paste the name/path. But that was easy enough to type
[15:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SKYBLUE1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SKYBLUE1
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[16:20] <Vaizki> urls are most definitely case sensitive but of course the web server may translate that request to a file system lookup where case is ignored. Namely windows yes...
[16:21] <Vaizki> I think HFS can also work in case insensitive mode
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[16:46] <PE2BZ> After Ron G8FJG returned from a job outdoor he noticed that his Lora setup had received over 550 telemetry packets from my TX with 100 mW in a Colineair. The camera was not attached, so only data, no image. This was during the great band opening on de 5th of june between 00 and 03 AM
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[17:45] <Vaizki> PE2BZ, what is the distance to Ron?
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[17:57] <hyde00001> For those interested in big rockets... ULA Delta4 Heavy launch is being live streamed - though launch has been delayed by at least one hour... nominal 19.55 BST with web coverage from 19:45.. http://www.ulalaunch.com/webcast.aspx.
[17:57] <PE2BZ> Vaiziki that is 280 Km
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[17:58] <PE2BZ> hyde00001 thanks for the link. What´s in the rocket ? Does it carry satellites or something like that ?
[17:59] <hyde00001> Top secret cargo for US government... Something really really big if they are using the Delta4 heavy
[17:59] <russss> it's a spy satellite
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[18:00] <PE2BZ> russss no, if it was, we wouldn´t know....
[18:00] <hyde00001> webstream will stop when the fairing is ejected, so the "customer" as ULA calls them doesn't want anyone having a peek...
[18:01] <russss> it's a launch for the NRO, their entire remit is spy satellites
[18:01] <PE2BZ> what does NRO mean ? Or is that a secret ?
[18:02] <russss> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Reconnaissance_Office
[18:02] <hyde00001> For lauch geeks like me, next Tuesday might be more fun - SpaceX (who do a MUCH cooler webcast) are having another launch/land on barge...
[18:02] <PE2BZ> russsss thanks
[18:03] Action: PE2BZ pressed the Liftoff button on the stream. But nothing happened...
[18:03] <russss> rumour is it that it's one of these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(satellite)
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[18:03] <russss> "the main antenna, [...] might be well in excess of 100 m (330 ft)"
[18:03] <hyde00001> They said stream to be restarted at 19.45 - though strangely mine is still going...
[18:05] <hyde00001> For those of you who didn't see it yet, this video of the last SpaceX launch landing on barge - from the perspective of the first stage is I think the best ever goes from HAB height to sea level in ~30 seconds with a pinpoint landing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jEz03Z8azc
[18:06] <PE2BZ> 100 meter dish. In space.... http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KDJOHqIy_A0/UtitGPxRkuI/AAAAAAAAPSo/zEbsWyUm2EI/s1600/sigintadvancedoriontrumpet.jpg
[18:08] <hyde00001> From the local weather radar, looks like there is some bad weather heading for Cape Canaveral... %scrub probability rising...
[18:10] <PE2BZ> hyde00001 That´s an awsome landing !
[18:11] <russss> PE2BZ: oh, nice diagram. That looks very sci-fi
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[18:12] <PE2BZ> russss drop one of those dishes in my backyard ...
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[18:12] <PE2BZ> russss o, sorry, backyard to small error
[18:12] <hyde00001> PE2BZ - Annoyingly I think its speeded up, It would be even better to see it in real time, given the flight parameters, its probably running at ~ x2
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[18:14] <hyde00001> That is a big antenna, do you think it's tuned for SSB on 434 MHz ??
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[18:17] <PE2BZ> I think, if the position of this dish is known, all radio amateurs could use it instead of the moon and have trans-atlantic communication....
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[18:19] <PE2BZ> hyde000001 at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBYC4f79iXc at around 28 minutes, would that be better ?
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[18:24] <hyde00001> PE2BZ I watched that live - they show the re-entry burn but not the actual landing from the 1st stage camera
[18:25] <hyde00001> opps sorry about the whois thing... Not spying just double clicked rather copies your name..
[18:25] <hyde00001> copies
[18:25] <hyde00001> copied
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[18:27] <PE2BZ> hyde00001 No worries. My name is Ben and I am from the Netherlands. And the whois only showed up on your screen it seems...
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[18:30] <hyde00001> Ben - Hi. 10 lines of info all about your internet connection showed up on mine.. ...Steve form Oxford...
[18:31] <hyde00001> Though I sometimes have to travel to Leiden on business...
[18:34] <PE2BZ> hyde00001 nothing of that appeared on my screen. Did you see my whois for you ?
[18:37] <hyde00001> No... So as you say it must be "private". I don't really 'get' IRC... I'm using a browser...
[18:37] <PE2BZ> I used to use it in a browser. But after some time I tried HexChat and I must say that it works quite nicely.
[18:38] <PE2BZ> You can whois yourself and know what we know ;-)
[18:39] <PE2BZ> But I am going back to my ¨study¨ of the short data transmissions in the 401 - 402.5 MHz range. I guess they belong to the transmissions of flood data to the GOES or Meteosat satellites and I would like to see some data ;-)
[18:39] <PE2BZ> CU again, bye for now.
[18:40] <hyde00001> Enjoy... Bye
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[21:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ITKSpace_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ITKSpace_chase
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[21:24] <hyde00001> looking promising for 10:58 launch.. .http://www.ulalaunch.com/webcast.aspx
[21:24] <hyde00001> 10:58 BST
[21:25] <hyde00001> 22:58 BST!
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[22:06] <hyde00001> ...and then scrubbed...
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[22:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0GIQ-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0GIQ-11
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[23:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TestiN - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TestiN
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