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[04:26] <Bobsaget11> Hello, i'm trying to find a Ublox EVA-7M gps
[04:26] <Bobsaget11> anyone know where I could locate this?
[04:28] <Vaizki_> eBay? Why not a 8M?
[04:30] <Bobsaget11> no we need a real low power consumption GPS, hoping to run it off just a cap and solar (no bat they keep failing
[04:30] <Bobsaget11> Ublox eva-M8M would work too
[04:30] <Bobsaget11> just cannot find any Ublox Eva-* anywhere
[04:33] <Vaizki_> right. I'm driving a boat at 30 knots so not much help :)
[04:35] <Vaizki_> There was another brand of low power gps used by recent floaters...
[04:37] <Bobsaget11> Yes?? hmmm
[04:37] <Bobsaget11> driving a boat, wow i'm jealous
[04:42] <Vaizki_> https://imgur.com/a/O2aIt
[04:42] <Vaizki_> my commute to work now :)
[04:45] <Bobsaget11> damn that is living!!
[04:46] <Bobsaget11> I need to snap a picture of the desolate hell hole called china I'm in right now :(
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[06:51] <jakeio> Summing up my entire project in one youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2l-F1ElJMc
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[09:05] <Upu> .flights
[09:05] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Current flights: 03SKIPI Launch 1 10(521b), 03Cranmere Test 2 10(e53a)
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[09:28] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SKIPI after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SKIPI
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[09:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SKIPI - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SKIPI
[09:37] <Upu> strangely ontime
[09:37] <craag> dav
[09:37] <craag> e
[09:37] <Upu> ah yes
[09:37] <craag> urgh, dave took ah cattleprod ;)
[09:40] <daveake> No, I'm about to leave :)
[09:40] <daveake> I did remind him to re-read my manual though :)
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[09:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE2WMG-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE2WMG-11
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[10:17] <jakeio> !wiki knot
[10:17] <SpacenearUS> 03jakeio: Wiki page 03knots (guides) - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:knots
[10:17] <SpacenearUS> 03jakeio: Wiki page 03guides:knots - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:knots?s[]=knot
[10:18] <pb0ahx> !flights
[10:18] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03SKIPI Launch 1 10(521b), 03Cranmere Test 2 10(e53a)
[10:18] <jakeio> Just about to launch SKIPI in about 30 mins.
[10:18] <pb0ahx> !dial 521b
[10:18] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Latest dials for 03SKIPI 10(521b): 03434.65 MHz
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[10:35] <Upu> concerns me you're wiking for knots at this late hour :)
[10:38] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> :)
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[10:41] <mfa298> I think daveake said notam was for midday onwards (so there's still 20mins or 1h20 depending on whether that was real time or bst)
[10:42] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> 11:00 GT is the NOTAM
[10:42] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> GMT*
[10:43] <AndyEsser> do we have records of how soon after a NOTAM becomes valid someone launches?
[10:43] <AndyEsser> :P
[10:43] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> ISH
[10:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VA2RMG-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VA2RMG-11
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[11:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BUZZ - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BUZZ
[11:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah its aqcuired a backup tracker!
[11:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> Will they have to shout "Fore" when the launch it ?
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[11:09] <Geoff-G8DHE> last time BUZZ was on 434.2MHz ......?
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[11:10] <Geoff-G8DHE> but it has also been on 434.6mHz ...
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[11:16] <daveake> It's on 434.311
[11:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> A right
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[11:18] <g8fjg> from UKHAS ............ it's payliad ID is BUZZ, frequency 434.31MHz, 50 baud, 7 bit ascii, 1 stop bit.
[11:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SKIPI_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SKIPI_chase
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[11:45] <bingo> does anyone know if skipi launched this morning?
[11:45] <AndyEsser> bingo: it's in the air
[11:45] <bingo> Ah, thanks - I'm not seeing it on the habhub tracker map?
[11:46] <AndyEsser> it's there
[11:46] <mfa298> http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BUZZ;SKIPI
[11:46] <AndyEsser> http://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=9&qm=1_day&f=SKIPI
[11:46] <craag> Last received 2h5m ago?
[11:47] <mfa298> I'm not sure it's launched yet, both are at ~50m
[11:48] <craag> buzz is uploading and still on the ground, so I assume not
[11:48] <bingo> That's what was confusing me, plus if I change to last 1 hour instead of last day, I can't see it at all.
[11:48] <bingo> Thanks for the links BTW.
[11:48] <bingo> Ah OK, thanks craag
[11:48] <AndyEsser> 10:18:15< jakeio> Just about to launch SKIPI in about 30 mins.
[11:48] <AndyEsser> ^ that was wishful thinking :P
[11:49] <bingo> lol. glad I haven't missed it tho.
[11:49] <bingo> .
[11:49] <mfa298> heh, never trust when someone says they'll launch in 30 mins,
[11:50] <AndyEsser> :P
[11:50] <AndyEsser> was so confident :P
[11:50] <mfa298> ish still applies at that point (so 20-180 mins is more likely)
[11:50] <AndyEsser> :P
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[11:54] <daveake> Filling started
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[12:06] <Bill_Harvey> Question: When using a telescopic antenna on ahand scanner do you need to alter the length for different frequencies?
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[12:07] <russss> yes
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[12:08] <SpeedEvil> Maybe.
[12:09] <SpeedEvil> Radiation pattern depends on frequency.
[12:11] <craag> generally make it as close to wavelength/4 as is practical.
[12:12] Action: SpeedEvil sighs.
[12:13] <SpeedEvil> I keep meaning to bookmark a nice animation I found of dipole radiation pattern with frequency
[12:16] <JonnyALpha> Sorry had to reconnect, telescopic antenna needs to be 1/4 of the wavelength for the desired frequency?
[12:17] <JonnyALpha> So about 17cm?
[12:17] <craag> JonnyALpha: Generally, yes.
[12:17] <daveake> Launching in a few mins
[12:18] <SpeedEvil> http://gallery.military.ir/albums/userpics/10093/pat_dB.gif - aha!
[12:18] <SpeedEvil> Pretty
[12:18] <mfa298> slightly out probably won't make a huge difference
[12:18] <JonnyALpha> SpeedEvil - nice :-)
[12:18] <SpeedEvil> As you see, it starts out pretty much two big lobes, and you need to get quite far off before it's not.
[12:18] <JonnyALpha> craag: Tks
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[12:21] <JonnyALpha> 17cm is just less than my tele completely collapsed :-)
[12:24] <JonnyALpha> Colinear is mounted on a washing line pole connected to an RTL820T dongle (no amp yet) hoping to pick something up today?
[12:24] <craag> Where are you located JonnyALpha ?
[12:25] <JonnyALpha> craag: North Devon
[12:25] <mfa298> as long as you can get Line of Sight to the balloon you ought to have a reasonable chance of receiving something
[12:25] <craag> A good chance you might then :)
[12:26] <JonnyALpha> craag: Yeh Monmouth is not that far off, just going to see if I can pick up the Monmouth Repeater that I just spotted on the net?
[12:26] <mfa298> I think AndyEsser started getting one the other day when he was between the Blue circle (0 degree from the horizon) and green circle (5 degree from the horizon)
[12:27] <mfa298> repeaters aren't always so easy over long paths as the ground gets in the way.
[12:28] <JonnyALpha> Tuned into 430.9750 and can hear a lot of static with some distinctive high pitched gapped sounds
[12:28] <craag> looks like it's up
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[12:30] <daveake> yes up
[12:30] <daveake> nice launch
[12:30] <jakeio> SKIPI's up!
[12:31] <bingo> good stuff!
[12:33] <JonnyALpha> On HabHub, what are the green and blue circles around the balloon?
[12:33] <JonnyALpha> Go SKIPI - sounds like a 1970 Australian kids programme :-)
[12:33] <AndyEsser> 5 and 0 degrees above the horizon
[12:34] <craag> Blue circle marks where the balloon would be at 0 degrees on the horizon
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[12:34] <craag> Green circle marks 5 degrees
[12:34] <JonnyALpha> Sorry thats over my head?
[12:34] <pd3jag> how about status of skipi???
[12:35] <craag> pd3jag: it's up
[12:35] <mfa298> JonnyALpha: if you were on the green circle the balloon will be 5 degrees above the horizon
[12:35] <pd3jag> oke great 434650 MHz????
[12:35] <mfa298> if you're on the blue circle it's right on the horizon
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[12:36] <mfa298> but they assume everyone is at 0m asl and there aren't any hills.
[12:36] <JonnyALpha> mfa298: OK got it - if there were no land in the way?
[12:36] <pd3jag> still blue here but i wait .
[12:36] <craag> pd3jag: Getting something at 434.648 here
[12:37] <mfa298> so unlikely to hear anything if you're outside the blue circle, most people should start receiving somewhere between the blue and green circles
[12:37] <pd3jag> oke craag tnx
[12:38] <pd3jag> i turn beam into uk so i hope i can recv it soon.
[12:39] <mfa298> JonnyALpha: going back a bit, if you're looking at what amateur radio repeaters you might get you can find their details and map of expected coverage on https://www.ukrepeater.net/my_repeater.php?callsign=gb3wr
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[12:41] <mfa298> that being one I knew of in somerset that used to have a good site (I think it's moved since then though)
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[12:41] <junderwood> !dial skipi
[12:41] <SpacenearUS> 03junderwood: Latest dials for 03SKIPI 10(521b): 03434.646469 MHz
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[12:44] <craag> yay first hab tracking ive done in about a year
[12:45] <craag> good strong signal from buzz on the websdr
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[12:46] <junderwood> Really? I was going to ask whether there was an antenna :)
[12:46] <pd3jag> whats freq for buzz?
[12:46] <junderwood> 434.313
[12:46] Nick change: junderwood -> M0JCU
[12:47] <Upu> actually 75 baud ?
[12:47] <dbrooke> ssdv at 75 baud was unexpected
[12:48] <dbrooke> I thought it was just struggling to sync at first
[12:49] <pd3jag> skipi at 434.650 right?????????
[12:50] <dbrooke> 434.645 here
[12:51] <pd3jag> oke i wait when its in my range hihi
[12:51] <Upu> thought it was meant to be on 434.300
[12:51] <dbrooke> buzz is 434.31
[12:51] <Upu> oh right
[12:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> Longmark from SKIPI?
[12:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> ah with that it restarted!
[12:53] <Upu> dodgy power ?
[12:53] <Upu> did you get the boot up messages ?
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[12:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> another long pause
[12:59] <JonnyALpha> Is Cheshire_sdr on here?
[12:59] <AndyEsser> No
[12:59] <AndyEsser> But I'll see him tomorrow
[13:00] <JonnyALpha> His Antenna has just appeared on the map in North Devon, I am acfoss the other side of the Estuary :-) he was 0x17 couple of days ago?
[13:01] <AndyEsser> if someone is using the WebSDR to receive the payload, they may have put their own location in on dl-fldigi, rather than where the antenna is
[13:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> See http://www.cheshiresdr.co.uk/
[13:02] <AndyEsser> worth me setting up my antenna?
[13:02] <mfa298> hmmm, I think my TS2000 has gone deaf on 70cms (or where it's sitting means somethings being overloaded)
[13:03] <cm13g09> mfa298: oh dear......
[13:03] <JonnyALpha> AndyEsser: OK
[13:03] <mfa298> can hear it strongly on the FT817, but not with the TS2000 :(
[13:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> Uh where has BUZZ gone ?
[13:04] <JonnyALpha> I have nothing visual on gqrx but now have two very feint yellow lines in dl-fldigi?
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[13:06] <craag> Hmm has BUZZ gone?
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[13:06] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup has for me
[13:06] <M0JCU> Buzz has gone
[13:08] <dbrooke> beyond infinity 8-(
[13:09] <Vaizki_> maybe he's falling with style and doesn't have time to talk
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[13:11] <jakeio> Damn, there goes my backup...
[13:12] <adamgreig> makes it more exciting
[13:12] <jakeio> And potentially more expensive.
[13:12] <craag> skipi too weak here
[13:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> still only sending pictures from the ground
[13:13] <jakeio> Yeah, I think I should've perhaps thought of that,
[13:13] <jakeio> It's selecting biggest JPG...
[13:13] <jakeio> Oh well!
[13:13] <jakeio> I'll have to find it.
[13:14] <JonnyALpha> Just tried my AOR outside and can clearly hear SKIPI bleeping away :-)
[13:14] <jakeio> Thanks JonnyALpha, and everyone, your help is invaluable here!
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[13:14] <JonnyALpha> Cant connect the audio to my laptop though, unless I move -)
[13:15] <AndyEsser> !dial skipi
[13:15] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Latest dials for 03SKIPI 10(521b): 03434.645759 MHz, 434.646266 MHz, 434.6462 MHz, 434.645 MHz, 434.646335 MHz, 434.64558 MHz
[13:16] <Vaizki_> skipi the bush kangaroo?
[13:18] <daveake> Remind me why we stopped using rfm22bs ...
[13:19] <daveake> That tracker has previously been Mr Reliable, but I guess any rfm22b can sulk
[13:19] <Upu> should have used an NTX2B one :)
[13:19] <Upu> mind you thats got some air miles that one
[13:20] <AndyEsser> decoding nonsense over here :(
[13:22] <daveake> Buzz stopped at 12km so probably it doesn't like the cold; it might well spring into life further up
[13:26] <JonnyALpha> Just picked this up: SKII,402;25,0f3,&1q5.9529,00249-!x71x.0,12l1<p.2:1F1
[13:26] <JonnyALpha> But now I have random characters again :-(
[13:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> When its sending SSDV it will appear random
[13:27] <pd3jag> little sign here now 434646.400 but not strong to for decode
[13:28] <AndyEsser> sitting at -40dB for me here, need it to be above about -35dB for a reliable decode
[13:29] <JonnyALpha> Geoff OK - I have a lot of static with my RT8020 but its getting something, may need an AMP
[13:30] <fsphil> whoops, bit of an image selection bug eh? :)
[13:31] <AndyEsser> tis a bit drifty...
[13:33] <pb0ahx> SKIPI is very weak here\
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[13:33] <jakeio_> Hello.
[13:34] <jakeio_> I cant see SKIPI but tracker shows you guys can.
[13:34] <mfa298> jakeio_: seems to be doing ok at the moment
[13:35] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/WHibgmf
[13:35] <AndyEsser> that thing at 434.5 really needs to die
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[13:35] <pb0ahx> $$SKIPI,1464602935,13:35:14,5156.85250-00251.4315,21698.5,12,393.51*95A5
[13:35] <JonnyALpha> I can here it with my AOR, but with my SDR the signal wavy in dl-fldigi
[13:35] <sa_> how do you get images back from a balloon?
[13:36] <JonnyALpha> sa_: I can now answer that one :-)
[13:36] <mfa298> AndyEsser: you need that yagi and go direction finding
[13:36] <AndyEsser> mfa298: ha!
[13:36] <JonnyALpha> Slow Scan Digital Video over radio waves.
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[13:37] <fsphil> SSDV was quite a poor name. It's not (always) slow, and it's not video :)
[13:37] <sa_> sounds good. what radio frequency do I use?
[13:37] <fsphil> though I suppose it *could* be video...
[13:37] <AndyEsser> fsphil: "Maybe Sometimes Images Fast Enough For Video" MSIFEFV
[13:37] <JonnyALpha> What tracker is SKIPI using?
[13:37] <daveake> He made his own
[13:38] <JonnyALpha> daveake: OK
[13:38] <AndyEsser> nice strong signal now, but still not decoding anything :(
[13:38] <mfa298> well the slow scan could imply it's a low frame rate video and the images should be in sequential order normally
[13:39] <fsphil> mmm
[13:39] <mfa298> so it is video, just at ~ 1 frame/minute
[13:39] <AndyEsser> :)
[13:39] <fsphil> but it has no inherent speed
[13:39] <AndyEsser> jakeio_: definitely 8-bit ASCII?
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[13:40] <daveake> 75 baud 8 N 2
[13:40] <jakeio_> Yes AndyEsser.
[13:40] Action: mfa298 may have solved the deafness issue (by tuning down 9MHz to 434)
[13:41] <AndyEsser> interesting... getting a _Very_ strong 1-bit but no data anymore, no shifting
[13:41] <AndyEsser> :(
[13:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> takes aminute when changing image
[13:41] <AndyEsser> if the 0-bit comes through this strong then fldigi has no excuse :P
[13:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> thee you go
[13:41] <JonnyALpha> DEV88? Are you using an amp with your SDR?
[13:42] <fsphil> mfa298: ah yes, done that a few times :)
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[13:42] <AndyEsser> Geoff-G8DHE: yea, just heard it start back up - and back to nonsense from fldigi *le sigh*
[13:42] <mfa298> fldigi really needs to set the radio frequency from the flight doc, that might have fixed my issue withotu me noticing.
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[13:42] <jakeio> Internet went.
[13:43] <JonnyALpha> Now getting a nice signal from SKIPI, I have received two clear lines of telemetry :-)
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[13:44] <fsphil> should be in range of here now... lemme see
[13:45] <AndyEsser> hoping it gains some more altitude and I get into the green circle - shouldn't be any excuse then
[13:45] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: you have an ok antenna now? :)
[13:46] <AndyEsser> indeed
[13:46] <Vaizki_> is it outside?
[13:46] <AndyEsser> yes
[13:46] <Vaizki_> whoa
[13:46] <JonnyALpha> Lost SKIPI again
[13:46] <pb0ahx> yesssss first green of SKIPI
[13:47] <AndyEsser> base of it is about 3m above ground, and my house is in the way currently ;)
[13:47] <Vaizki_> ok that's not great :)
[13:47] <AndyEsser> the blindspot caused by my house seems to be in the direction everyone launches from :P
[13:47] <AndyEsser> Vaizki_: it's a temporary location
[13:47] <AndyEsser> will eventually stick it up the side of the house on a drain pipe
[13:48] <Vaizki_> metal drain pipe?
[13:48] <AndyEsser> plastic
[13:48] <AndyEsser> I think...
[13:48] <Vaizki_> bit of luck there.. :)
[13:48] <AndyEsser> metal would be bad, no?
[13:48] <Vaizki_> yes
[13:49] <AndyEsser> still toying with the idea of mounting it at work
[13:49] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/XvKyRcx
[13:49] <AndyEsser> nice "straight" line
[13:53] <Vaizki_> AndyEsser: I'm sure there are 2m/70cm beacons out there.. use them to get your antenna in a good spot?
[13:53] <AndyEsser> o come on... fldigi... I could decode this by hand!
[13:53] <pd3jag> verry bad signal into PA
[13:53] <AndyEsser> Vaizki_: yea, there's a repeater out in wales not far away that I could use
[13:53] <AndyEsser> but again - this is all just a temporary setup
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[13:57] <AndyEsser> jakeio: what's the burst altitude?
[13:59] <jakeio> 30700m
[14:01] <pb0ahx> signaal gone here ???
[14:01] <pb0ahx> from SKIFI
[14:01] <Upu> rebooting I suspect
[14:02] <pb0ahx> yes it is back
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[14:03] <pb0ahx> upu u make new stuf last week ??
[14:03] <Upu> heh new what ? I make new things all the time
[14:03] <AndyEsser> I've clearly got something wrong here - signal coming through very clear - but it's all just nonsense :(
[14:03] <adamgreig> try hitting Rv in fldigi?
[14:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> click the SSDV option in View then you will see the image
[14:04] <adamgreig> also that lol
[14:04] <AndyEsser> it's not RTTY telem?
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[14:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> at least those parts that you receive directly! it does 4 frames of telemery, then several frames of SSDV
[14:06] <Geoff-G8DHE> thats the telemetry frames finished
[14:06] <mfa298> looks lke its on it's way down
[14:06] <Geoff-G8DHE> now SSDV frames
[14:07] <mfa298> I thought it went a bit fadey just now
[14:07] <AndyEsser> Geoff-G8DHE: did get any telem there - still just a wall of nonsense :P
[14:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> it maybe fading with you as its burst and falling fast at present
[14:07] <AndyEsser> and do I need the RV on or off?
[14:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> Rv is only if you have a reversed RF imaage i.e. IQ signals reversed
[14:08] <fsphil> didn't get anything. there's an annoying hill in the way
[14:09] <Upu> you know you got the wrong SSDV settings when....you're transmitting pre launch pics on the decent
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[14:10] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its a time traveller version Upu, these are the images from its landing point ;-)
[14:10] <Upu> did Buzz come back to life ?
[14:10] <pb0ahx> nice picture off SKIPI http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=9a7b6d4
[14:11] <mfa298> those long gaps are going to be annoying as it gets lower (unless daveake can get data from home)
[14:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> no sign of it yet
[14:12] <pb0ahx> !dial BUZZ
[14:12] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[14:12] <pb0ahx> !flights
[14:12] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03SKIPI Launch 1 10(521b), 03Cranmere Test 2 10(e53a)
[14:15] <pb0ahx> wat is the frequentie for BUZZ ??
[14:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> It failed earlier but was on 434.31
[14:16] <pb0ahx> Geoff-G8DHE, tnx info
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[14:17] <Upu> this payload is unhappy
[14:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> it will be a pain to recover if it follows the current prediction!
[14:20] <jakeio> Has anyone got a signal?
[14:20] <Upu> yep
[14:20] <Upu> yeah jakeio
[14:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> yup
[14:20] <Upu> but it keeps restarting
[14:20] <jakeio> I cant decode!
[14:21] <jakeio> What?
[14:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> no it pauses between after the SSDV frame
[14:21] <Upu> keeps restarting
[14:21] <Upu> Did anyone check if Buzz woke up ?
[14:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> takes about a minute then 4 frames telem, 1 frame SSDV
[14:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> watching for it but no sign
[14:22] <Upu> kk
[14:23] <Upu> hope you have your hiking boots jakeio
[14:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> just about to drop out here over my horizon :-(
[14:23] <jakeio> Can i get recent string?
[14:25] <Vaizki_> $$SKIPI,1464605902,14:24:41,5203.93349,-00305.44665,8994.5,12,192.25*27DD
[14:25] <Vaizki_> I just grabbed it from the habhub logtail
[14:26] <Upu> not the best signal
[14:26] <Upu> Go to Craswall jakeio
[14:26] <Upu> small village
[14:27] <Upu> HR2 0PN
[14:27] <pb0ahx> SKIPI team mni tnx was a good flifgt for me
[14:28] <Vaizki_> it's going west..
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[14:28] <Vaizki_> defecting to wales
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[14:29] <daveake> jakeio you're going to lose signal before it lands as you're the wrong side of the hill it's landing on
[14:30] <AndyEsser> he's gone
[14:31] <Upu> going to be a pig to recover
[14:31] <daveake> yup
[14:31] <Vaizki_> 700m high hills eh?
[14:31] <daveake> "mountains" :)
[14:32] <Upu> its rough terrain
[14:32] <daveake> officially and all
[14:32] <Vaizki_> oh. ah. I've seen the movie!
[14:33] <Geoff-G8DHE> He would be better off going back to Hay on Wye and heading to Cusop
[14:33] <Upu> on the plus side if he is on the right side of the mountains he should have no issues
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[14:34] <daveake> yes
[14:35] <Vaizki_> except it might be half way up a very steep cliff
[14:36] <daveake> There's a 640m hill between us and where it looks like it's landing
[14:36] <daveake> So it needs to land >640m ASL :)
[14:38] <Vaizki_> it'll be on that NE slope at this rate..
[14:39] <Vaizki_> it would be handy if you could click on the predictor line and see the predicted altitude at that point
[14:39] <dbrooke> the telemetry graph shows that
[14:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> You can in GE, with a previous prediction
[14:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> you see where it enters the hillside ;-)
[14:40] <Vaizki_> dbrooke: ah nice
[14:41] <Vaizki_> that thing is determined to give jakeio & crew a mile's worth of hiking from any road..
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[14:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> It will be close to the "The Birches" underneath the previous track
[14:41] <Vaizki_> welcome back, edmund
[14:41] <AndyEsser> jakeio: wrong side of that hill ;)
[14:42] <jakeio> Yeah, were going now!
[14:43] <jakeio> Im tracking offline.
[14:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> Might be lucky that Three Rivers Ride track might be drivable ?
[14:44] <daveake> gone
[14:45] <NigelP_> Gone also last green $$SKIPI,1464607067,14:44:06,5201.76315,-00304.94091,559.8,12,237.31*4B8A
[14:45] <Vaizki_> down to 559m.. good job
[14:45] <Geoff-G8DHE> 559 and ground is 400m so
[14:45] <Vaizki_> there is some kind of track on the ordnance survey map
[14:45] <Vaizki_> from near The Birches
[14:46] <SM0ULC-Reb> should be easy rocovery?
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[14:46] <daveake> yeah that looks not too bad at all
[14:47] <Geoff-G8DHE> That Three Rivers Ride track is quite good at the road end http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2016_Flights/skip1_20160530/Capture.JPG
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[14:53] <Vaizki_> Geoff-G8DHE: that's a private access road to a farm.. where it seems to have landed
[14:53] <Vaizki_> lots of sheep :)
[14:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> what they get up to on private land is their own business ;-)
[14:55] <AndyEsser> at least it hasn't invaded Wales
[14:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> close brush however!
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[15:01] <Vaizki_> I wish recovery teams would humor us with location updates while they make their way over..
[15:03] <daveake> It's in/near Wales; they think "mobile data" is when you paint numbers on your sheep
[15:04] <JonnyALpha> Just sat and had my dinner in the back garden and noticed that I had forgotten to add any toroids to my DIY colinear!!
[15:08] <AndyEsser> daveake: ha
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[15:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD9AUK-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD9AUK-11
[15:08] <AndyEsser> Vaizki_: like daveake did the other day "Andy needs to hurry up"
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[15:15] <daveake> jakeio Do you have telemetry? Can you upload it ?
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[15:23] <jakeio> Hello
[15:23] <Vaizki_> jakeio: we can't cheer you on if you don't update chase car location :)
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[15:23] <Vaizki_> and hello!
[15:23] <jakeio> I'm in an empty farm.
[15:23] <Vaizki_> no sheep?
[15:23] <jakeio> Many.
[15:24] <Vaizki_> so you don't count sheep
[15:24] <Vaizki_> (sorry..)
[15:24] <jakeio> It's really creepy. Nobody gone but a webcam and a dog.
[15:25] <AndyEsser> we need a HABsat for real-time birds-eye view of recoveries
[15:25] <Vaizki_> or hab drones
[15:25] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah ha updated chase car
[15:25] <Vaizki_> fixed wing
[15:25] <AndyEsser> Vaizki_: problems with drones
[15:25] <AndyEsser> satellites have less problems (from a legality POV)
[15:26] <Vaizki_> and a few other problems..
[15:26] <Vaizki_> jakeio: are you getting a signal?
[15:26] <jakeio> Small but yes.
[15:27] <jakeio> Ive been tracking offline.
[15:27] <jakeio> (Really bad signal)
[15:28] <Vaizki_> so you teleported to a pub then.. good choice.
[15:29] <Vaizki_> I wish I had a decent pub nearby :(
[15:29] <AndyEsser> I have a decent pub that's < 5m walk away
[15:30] <Vaizki_> 7.3km..
[15:31] <Vaizki_> 5 meters is a short walk, lucky you ;)
[15:31] <adamgreig> yeh well my house used to be a pub :p
[15:31] <Vaizki_> adamgreig: and then you got married?
[15:32] <adamgreig> not quite, the pub got knocked down and my house was built on the plot
[15:33] <AndyEsser> so "A pub used to be where my house is" rather than "my house used to be a pub"
[15:33] <AndyEsser> :P
[15:33] <adamgreig> pft
[15:34] <Vaizki_> that chase car is all over the county and more
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[15:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KJ6LHK-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ6LHK-11
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[15:55] <AndyEsser> recovered yet?
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[16:09] <jakeio> Got land location. Walking there.
[16:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD9FRY - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD9FRY
[16:10] <AndyEsser> o thought you were on site ages ago
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[16:43] <jakeio> Got it!
[16:43] <jakeio> One thing went wrong, my image selector backfired.
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[16:44] <daveake> nice
[16:45] <daveake> Is buzz txing now ? (434.311)
[16:45] <daveake> either way it's heading for the bin
[16:46] <Upu> :/
[16:46] <jakeio> Buzz is silent I think.
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[16:47] <jakeio> Let me check.
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[16:50] <malgar> hi! Could someone setup an hourly predictor for me? tnx
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[17:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD9FR9 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD9FR9
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[17:37] <PE2BZ> !flights
[17:37] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03SKIPI Launch 1 10(521b), 03Cranmere Test 2 10(e53a)
[17:37] <PE2BZ> Buzz off ?
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[18:12] <jakesully123456> I've got the pictures off the payload!
[18:13] <SM0ULC-Reb> :)
[18:19] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[18:26] <Bill_Harvey> jakeskully113456: which payload?
[18:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03hi _chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=hi%20_chase
[18:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WO9N-7 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WO9N-7
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[18:35] <DL1SGP> evening folks
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[18:41] <jakesully123456> Bill_Harvey, SKIPI, I flew it today.
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[18:42] <Bill_Harvey> jakesully: You got it back ok, I was trying to track it but my gear is not that great and the signal was in and out? JonnyAlpha
[18:43] Nick change: lz1dev_ -> lz1dev
[18:43] <Bill_Harvey> jakesull: Well done mucker :-) My first flight will be 22 June
[18:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2EAT-6 after 033 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2EAT-6
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[19:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G6SQX_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G6SQX_chase
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[19:39] <ei2kk> hi there..
[19:40] <ei2kk> could someone tell me where to find freq and mode for balloons? it looks like the only one with full info is picospace...
[19:43] <lz1dev> there is no one source
[19:43] <ei2kk> oo.. I was looking for you :)
[19:43] <lz1dev> you can ask heroe for specifiec balloon, or try the bot
[19:44] <ei2kk> need info about 669nt :)
[19:44] <ei2kk> I see you can rx it..
[19:44] <Upu> it belongs to NASA
[19:45] <Upu> http://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/godard/cosi-payload-tested-on-super-pressure-balloon/
[19:45] <ei2kk> yes, I know - but if it is on HabHub should be possible to track it.
[19:45] <lz1dev> not really
[19:45] <Upu> no its being imported
[19:46] <lz1dev> if you find info let us know, i couldn't find any
[19:46] <lz1dev> they do have line of sight telemetry, otherwise they seem to be using satellite
[19:47] <lz1dev> that is TRDSS and iridium
[19:47] <ei2kk> lz1dev - habhub shows you can receive it.. that why iI thought the info is 'somewhere'.. not 'top secret'
[19:48] <lz1dev> im not receiving it, just taking the position from nasa and putting it on the tracker
[19:48] <ei2kk> is this because you import data to habhub?
[19:48] <ei2kk> oh.. OK.. :) got it..
[19:48] <mfa298> I'd guess you can receive it by pulling in their published position feed (which is what I'm guessing the tracker is doing)
[19:49] <ei2kk> it is not so far from PS64 so was going to track both if possible..
[19:49] <ei2kk> anyway.. thanks for info..
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[19:51] <lz1dev> http://www.csbf.nasa.gov/map/balloon9/Google669NT.htm
[19:51] <lz1dev> http://www.csbf.nasa.gov/map/balloon9/flight669nt.htm
[19:53] <lz1dev> LDB Relayed
[19:53] <lz1dev> what is LDB...?
[19:56] <AndyEsser> Large Dumb Balloon
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[20:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VK9WI after 0314 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK9WI
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[22:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03cmb 7425_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=cmb%207425_chase
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