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[08:35] <lz1dev> https://zippy.gfycat.com/UnknownAthleticArcticwolf.webm
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[09:19] <Upu> wierd file name
[09:19] <Upu> but awesome content
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[09:23] <jakeio> Does anyone know how to disable dl-fldigi's auto correcting on the waterfall, it's shifting away from the correct frequency.
[09:24] <Upu> press AFC
[09:24] <jakeio> Found it!
[09:24] <Upu> bottom right
[09:24] <jakeio> Thanks Upu!
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[09:45] <arjunnaha> Would a DIY payload antenna built from the pigtail be better than a prebuilt stubby antenna?
[09:45] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> Yes.
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[09:46] <arjunnaha> I'm just a bit worried that it was made properly and size of radials, etc.
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[09:47] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> Stubby aerials are for handy portables to stop you putting an eye out or being unwieldy !
[09:48] <arjunnaha> So not for a production payload
[09:48] <arjunnaha> I.e. Not to be flown
[09:49] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> No better probably worse than a standard 1/4 wave groundplane
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[09:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SKIPI after 0321 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SKIPI
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[09:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP9UOB-rs41 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-rs41
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[09:56] <jakeio> Just been trying out higher baud rates, are there any potential problems with doubling my baud rate from 75 to 150? I'm using 434.650MHz so perhaps lower baud rate would be better as there may well be some noise!
[09:57] <AndyEsser> lower baud is less susceptible to noise
[09:57] <AndyEsser> but takes longer, obviously
[09:57] <AndyEsser> There was a flight flown on 300 Baud last week
[09:57] <jakeio> Right, I had thought so. I'll stick with lower baud as 434.650 could be quite noisy!
[09:59] <PE2BZ> jakeio +1 for that. On 300 baud I have about 20 % of the reads from UK flights compared to 75 baud flights. On longer distance it´s a great difference.
[10:00] <AndyEsser> jakeio: why 75 and not 50?
[10:00] <AndyEsser> 50 baud has a nice integer timing, 75 doesn't
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[10:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM4DDY-13 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4DDY-13
[10:03] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser good morning. Did you and or daveake recover the Pi868 payload ? I missed the news ;-)
[10:03] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: we did together
[10:03] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser Nice !
[10:03] <AndyEsser> he was kind enough to wait until I managed to get there (with no data, so good old "Instructions by Human")
[10:03] <fsphil> had to battle sheep
[10:04] <AndyEsser> they looked fierce!
[10:04] <AndyEsser> and very very steep hills
[10:04] <AndyEsser> next time... land in East Anglia
[10:04] <AndyEsser> :P
[10:04] <fsphil> it didn't look so steep on google :)
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[10:05] <AndyEsser> ha
[10:05] <AndyEsser> was valuable experience for one I do my launches though
[10:06] <AndyEsser> I'm toying with the idea of using the roof bars on my car, and building some sort of mount that has an X50 and a steerable Yagi
[10:06] <AndyEsser> that stays pointing at the Payload even when the car moves :P
[10:06] <PE2BZ> Great to hear. Avoid tunnels ...
[10:06] <AndyEsser> the X50 wouldn't be permanently deployed ;)
[10:06] <fsphil> magmount :p
[10:07] <fsphil> you probably could've gone one from radioworld when you where up
[10:07] <PE2BZ> He needs one. The X50 will be mounted on the roof of something that does not drive very well
[10:07] <fsphil> the one I use: https://cpc.farnell.com/watson/wsm-270/wsm-270-mini-mag-antenna/dp/IT44456
[10:07] <AndyEsser> fsphil: you also said that removing a magmount is likely to damage paintwork
[10:08] <AndyEsser> that might've been the 3-foot one that someone recommended acdtually
[10:08] <AndyEsser> actually*
[10:09] <fsphil> yeah I didn't say that. though it can be true
[10:10] <jakeio> AndyEsser, 75 because it's just a little bit faster and my pi does odd things at 50.
[10:10] <fsphil> I always clean the spot where I set it on, make sure there's no bits of grit or dirt that can scratch
[10:10] <AndyEsser> just concerned about scratching paint on company car ;)
[10:10] <AndyEsser> exploded tyres I can pay for - resprays, not so much
[10:10] <AndyEsser> jakeio: fair enough
[10:10] <fsphil> you can place something between the magnet and the roof
[10:11] <AndyEsser> fsphil: that seems far too sensible...
[10:11] <AndyEsser> :P
[10:11] <fsphil> my car is ancient, so not as bothered :)
[10:11] <PE2BZ> How about keeping the magmount on the car and just remove the antenna ?
[10:12] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: and when I have to give the car back? :P
[10:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YAM-1 after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YAM-1
[10:15] <PE2BZ> Then you only have to remove the magnet once. You can mount the magmount in a clean surrounding and have it there for ages
[10:15] <AndyEsser> fair enough
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[10:16] <PE2BZ> You wouldn´t want me to drill a hole for a permanent mount ;-) I did that once on a company car (my first year in that company) and I used a centerpoint to be shure the drill would not run away. The roof did not look that nice after my hit ... :-(
[10:16] <AndyEsser> wow...
[10:17] <PE2BZ> But I still work for the same company. 26 years later ;-)
[10:17] <AndyEsser> nice
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[10:57] <jakeio> fsphil, regarding my battery question from yesterday, other than your concerns about USB and the power button, you've got no other qualms with it? I've got a little plastic sheet that's going to go over the button before launch so that you'd need a very sharp nail to break through it and press the off switch!
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[11:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ9RHX_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ9RHX_chase
[11:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP7VLM-6_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP7VLM-6_chase
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[12:22] <tweetBot> @AmsatUK: MW1MDH launching 434.600 MHz USB FSK balloon June 9. Tracking link at https://t.co/huicqh3DXq #hamradio #hamr #ukhas https://t.co/w9fK5pQK0A
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[12:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W7QO-7 after 034 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W7QO-7
[13:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD7YYH-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD7YYH-11
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[13:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD5GOM-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD5GOM-11
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[13:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W7QO-9 after 0318 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W7QO-9
[13:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM4RQN-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4RQN-11
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[14:05] <Laurenceb_> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=40312.0;attach=1116046;image
[14:05] <Laurenceb_> spacex already reusing parts
[14:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WO9N-7 after 037 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WO9N-7
[14:21] <russss> Laurenceb_: how the hell did anyone spot that
[14:21] <Laurenceb_> high quality cameras
[14:22] <russss> apparently they're also making progress on re-entering the payload fairings
[14:22] <russss> they have a RCS on them now apparently
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[14:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE5AA-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE5AA-12
[14:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE5AA-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE5AA-11
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[15:27] <arjunnaha> What's the best website to monitor the jet stream forecast?
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[16:07] <astrobiologist> afternoon
[16:34] <PE2BZ> Good afternoon too
[16:34] <Laurenceb_> https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/4lfr64/video_analysis_of_the_spacex_thaicom8_landing/
[16:34] <Laurenceb_> interesting discussion (better than normal reddit tier)
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[16:58] <russss> r/spacex is pretty good overall
[16:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AF7EZ-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AF7EZ-11
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[17:09] <edmoore> apparently xcor have haled all their work on lynx for the time being
[17:10] <edmoore> suborbital tourist space planes seem to be a poison chalice
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[17:19] <AndyEsser> edmoore: did you ever get around to getting any of your UKRA certifications?
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[17:51] <edmoore> AndyEsser: nope
[17:52] <edmoore> the last amateur rocket I did would have been an L3 but it flew under experimental
[17:53] <AndyEsser> Ah ok
[17:54] <AndyEsser> what classes it things as experimental?
[17:55] <edmoore> i don't know
[17:55] <edmoore> we just built something to fly
[17:55] <edmoore> and found enough sensible ukra people to satisfy their paperwork peculiarities so that we could fly it
[17:56] <edmoore> that's about as far in to their way of doing things as i'd be interested in venturing
[17:56] <edmoore> in general ukra seems a bit of a hole
[17:57] <edmoore> some good people and a sea of self-important idiots and big-fish-small-pond politics
[17:57] <AndyEsser> ah ok - cheers for the info
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[18:01] <AndyEsser> wanting to do at least the L1/L2 and RSO stuff - but need appropriate people to come to the certification launches
[18:01] <AndyEsser> and it seems all the clubs in the North West have died off :(
[18:02] <edmoore> by all means build the rockets
[18:02] <edmoore> i would say that's great and fun
[18:02] <edmoore> but don't get too sucked into ukra
[18:02] <edmoore> they provide launch sites, do what is necessary to use a launch site
[18:02] <edmoore> the rest is noise
[18:02] <AndyEsser> hmm, ok - that was also a concern - finding a launch site - didn't see a list mentioned on their website but will do more digging
[18:03] <edmoore> there is one right by cambridge
[18:03] <edmoore> doesn't help you much in chester granted
[18:03] <edmoore> scottish rocket weekend might be good
[18:06] <AndyEsser> well never expected to just be able to pop down the road, so a trip to Cambridge wouldn't be terrible :P
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[18:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8ELK-1 after 0314 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
[18:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-1 after 0314 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
[18:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03default_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=default_chase
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[18:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 037 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:02] Nick change: number10_ -> number10
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[19:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE7SYF-2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE7SYF-2
[19:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE7SYF-3 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE7SYF-3
[19:52] <arjunnaha> ping daveake
[19:53] <daveake> pong
[19:53] <arjunnaha> If I have an external temp and a BMP180 what would the sentence structure for habitat look like?
[19:53] <arjunnaha> I can see the sentences from my radio, but can't tell what is what
[19:54] <arjunnaha> $$ForestHAB,88,19:52:11,51.44910,-0.92813,00077,0,0,9,16.9,4.1,175,22.6,1007,24.0*1031\n
[19:56] <daveake> RTFM http://www.pi-in-the-sky.com/index.php?id=getting-on-the-map
[19:57] <arjunnaha> If you have added a BMP085/180 PT sensor, then the temperature and pressure will be appended to the above fields. But where in the sentence?
[20:00] <daveake> appended = at the end
[20:01] Action: arjunnaha walks away shamefully
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[20:09] <arjunnaha> Quickie, how do I get the units of measurements onto the value, if I put (pa) on the name, it gives me an error
[20:17] <lz1dev> arjunnaha: name your field accordingly: https://github.com/rossengeorgiev/habitat-mobile-tracker/blob/master/js/tracker.js#L575-L595
[20:18] <arjunnaha> Yeh, I had a quick look at the docs, but it was the fact that pressure wasn't on the dropdown that confused me a bit
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[21:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ForestHAB - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ForestHAB
[22:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VK9WI after 0315 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK9WI
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[22:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI7ELZ-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI7ELZ-1
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[23:02] <AndyEsser> correct in thinking that 100N = 10kg @ 10m/s^2?
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[23:10] <SpeedEvil> ish
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[23:13] <AndyEsser> ish?
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