highaltitude.log.20160524

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[04:51] <PE2BZ> !flights
[04:51] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812)
[04:51] <PE2BZ> !quit
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[06:10] <Jerry> !flights
[06:10] <SpacenearUS> 03Jerry: Current flights: 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812)
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[07:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03UBSEDS15 after 036 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS15
[07:32] <x-f> !!
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[07:48] <fsphil> hah
[07:48] <fsphil> hey arko, you finally might get to track something :)
[07:49] <daveake> hah :)
[08:01] <Vaizki_> go go ubseds
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[08:28] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PI434 after 038 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI434
[08:30] <richardeoin> nice, still running in the dark too
[08:30] <gb73d> http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Navigation/Galileo/Launching_Galileo/Watch_the_launch_of_Galileo-13_14
[08:30] <gb73d> live now
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[08:32] <richardeoin> fsphil: did arko ever get to track one of Leo's balloons?
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[08:33] <fsphil> not sure, I remember one getting close.
[08:34] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> He went out one day but don't remember him actually getting a signal
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[08:44] <richardeoin> this should pass about 100 miles to the north of LA during their morning/lunchtime
[08:45] <richardeoin> its running Contestia 434.6 as well as APRS, so battery might not last until dawn
[08:45] <richardeoin> *it's
[08:55] <tweetBot> @bristolseds: @arkorobotics Fancy tracking a Brit Balloon from LA/SF? Today's the day! https://t.co/fJPpG7bwNM #ukhas
[08:56] <richardeoin> ^^ sorry for spam arko
[08:57] <richardeoin> but it's hopefully of interest :p
[09:00] <Vaizki_> galileo 13 & 14? how many do they need?
[09:01] <russss> 30
[09:02] <Vaizki_> ok so about the same as gps
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[09:27] <edmoore> have i missed it
[09:27] <edmoore> oo nice computer graphics
[09:27] <edmoore> i assume it's in orbit then
[09:27] <edmoore> that looks like a fregat upper stage
[09:27] <edmoore> oh it says it is in the text
[09:27] <russss> yeah it is
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[10:02] <AndyEsser> Anyone here used the ARM Cortex M0+ microcontrollers?
[10:10] <richardeoin> AndyEsser: I've used the Atmel SAMD20 for a tracker http://www.atmel.com/products/microcontrollers/arm/sam-d.aspx
[10:11] <richardeoin> not had any major problems with it
[10:11] <edmoore> AndyEsser: yes
[10:11] <Vaizki_> M0+ rocks
[10:12] <AndyEsser> richardeoin: cheers - I use an Atmel 328 atm for the tracker I'm designing - but need something with a bit more grunt and I/O for another project
[10:12] <AndyEsser> Vaizki_: I'll take that as a recommendation
[10:13] <richardeoin> sounds good
[10:14] <richardeoin> I've had it doing floating point math and it gives the correct answer faster than I need it
[10:15] <Vaizki_> AndyEsser, I know you despise anything "ready made" but the STM32 nucleo boards are pretty nice. and they include a ST-LINK debugger
[10:15] <AndyEsser> Vaizki_: ta
[10:16] <fsphil> yeah the nucleos are great for playing about with the chips
[10:17] <fsphil> less baggage than the discovery boards
[10:18] <Vaizki_> http://www.st.com/en/evaluation-tools/nucleo-l053r8.html
[10:19] <AndyEsser> ta muchly
[10:20] <Vaizki_> and good pinout graphics here https://developer.mbed.org/platforms/ST-Nucleo-L053R8/
[10:20] <Vaizki_> and peripheral lists
[10:21] <fsphil> same chip I used on my first pcb
[10:21] <edmoore> my irccloud has lost all its timestamps
[10:22] <russss> edmoore: hmm, we are pushing some design updates out
[10:22] <Vaizki_> I suspect Stephen Hawking
[10:22] <edmoore> righto
[10:22] <russss> (but it shouldn't have happened, I've passed it on)
[10:23] <russss> should come back if you refresh in 5mins or so
[10:24] <adamgreig> AndyEsser: I recommend looking at the stm32s as well, ove
[10:24] <adamgreig> as well/instead of the atmels
[10:24] <adamgreig> they're very nice!
[10:25] <adamgreig> and stm32f0 is a cortex m0 core
[10:25] <AndyEsser> ta
[10:26] <AndyEsser> will definitely put them on the list to investigate
[10:26] <AndyEsser> thanks all
[10:27] <Vaizki_> adamgreig, I just linked him the STM32L0 because he wanted M0+ .. :)
[10:27] <adamgreig> that works too :P the L0s are fun also, though I think various libraries i like to use support them a bit less wel
[10:27] <fsphil> L0 is probably not good for grunt work
[10:28] <fsphil> AndyEsser: define "grunt" :)
[10:28] <adamgreig> yea if you actually want any chomp i'd get an stm32f4
[10:28] <Vaizki_> yea F0 probably is a better choice if you don't want to run off batteries forever
[10:28] <russss> the L0 and the F0 are binary compatible anyway, afaict the main difference on the L0 is the fractionally lower power consumption
[10:28] <Vaizki_> or F4 of course
[10:28] <adamgreig> 168MHz and up, DSP instructions, buckets of ram and flash, etc
[10:28] <adamgreig> russss: are you suuuuureeee that the peripherals are all the same
[10:29] <Vaizki_> if you want low power, this is also interesting.. http://www.silabs.com/products/mcu/32-bit/efm32-zero-gecko/pages/efm32-zero-gecko.aspx
[10:29] <russss> adamgreig: I would certainly check first.
[10:29] <AndyEsser> fsphil: on-board computer for drone - GPS navigation, proximity sensors, TX'ing
[10:29] <Vaizki_> just go f4
[10:29] <russss> the L4 is the new hotness if you want fast and low-power.
[10:30] <adamgreig> they're very hotness
[10:30] <AndyEsser> ha
[10:30] <fsphil> coolness
[10:30] <russss> and ST are about to send me 2000 of them for free
[10:30] <mattbrejza> which seems to be more than the combined stock of distributors
[10:30] <russss> (for the EMF badge)
[10:31] <fsphil> the badge is a go then?
[10:31] <russss> we hope so, just finalising some last things
[10:31] <russss> but we have a very keen manufacturing sponsor now
[10:32] <gonzo__> set up a badge soldering village
[10:33] <adamgreig> don't joke
[10:33] <russss> yeah no jokes about that. It has happened before.
[10:33] <adamgreig> i soldered a load of the '12 badges :p
[10:34] <gonzo__> put it next to the bar and it;'s something to do whilst chatting with a pint
[10:34] <russss> I remember I constructed a volume desoldering device out of a shopvac
[10:34] <adamgreig> might want steady hands for this one
[10:35] <gonzo__> ah, then a few heroic sized scotched req
[10:37] <gonzo__> s
[10:41] <edmoore> russss: back
[10:42] <edmoore> thanks
[10:42] <edmoore> (the imestamps)
[10:43] <russss> np, wasn't my doing. I'm just passing the feedback on :)
[10:43] <russss> I'm working somewhere else today.
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[11:00] <jakeio> The current predictions on predict.habhub.org for 1 week from now are likely to change significantly aren't they? No point really taking anything from them yet?
[11:01] <adamgreig> well
[11:01] <adamgreig> if they were really bad a week out I wouldn't be optimistic
[11:01] <adamgreig> 5 days is usually good enough to call off a launch
[11:02] <jakeio> Well, one's pretty good. Lands in the Brecon Beacons.
[11:02] <jakeio> The other one lands in the sea.
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[11:04] <jakeio> Would you call off with this: http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=b3879c49e3fbbd4a0cfff52e41463ad8d08dec59
[11:04] <adamgreig> depends if you're feeling up for a hike, heh
[11:04] <jakeio> I'm OK with that.
[11:04] <adamgreig> then it's inland and not landing in a big city or airport or anything, i'd probably be happy with it
[11:05] <jakeio> What I'm unhappy about is that it will initially go straight South towards Severn Estuary.
[11:05] <adamgreig> yea but only for a little bit, then it goes west
[11:05] <adamgreig> if you trust the predictor to be telling you it will start off heading directly south you can trust it to be right about turning west too
[11:05] <jakeio> Haha, fair enough.
[11:06] <jakeio> You make a good point.
[11:06] <jakeio> How good is the predictor normally?
[11:06] <adamgreig> pretty good
[11:06] <adamgreig> so I've not done an actual study
[11:06] <adamgreig> not sure anyone really has
[11:06] <jakeio> I mean, I've watched a few launches and people have pretty much landed within a few miles of their predictions, which is pretty damn good.
[11:06] <adamgreig> and it obviously depends a lot on how well you can fill your balloon, how accurate your ascent rate, burst alt, descent rate is
[11:07] <adamgreig> and of course some days the winds change quickly and it's less good a week ahead
[11:07] <adamgreig> but basically it's pretty good
[11:07] <adamgreig> check the day before
[11:07] <jakeio> I'll check every day till then :P
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[11:07] <adamgreig> if it doesn't change around much over the days it's probably pretty reliable
[11:08] <jakeio> OK. Thanks.
[11:09] <daveake> Going over the Severn isn't an issue at all, and if you have a camera you should get some nice pix
[11:10] <daveake> As for the Brecons ... you'll need to be on the ball to get a good last position
[11:10] <daveake> or on a hill (the right hill)
[11:10] <jakeio> I might send someone ahead to roughly that area. Already checked phone coverage and there's 'H' internet access.
[11:11] <adamgreig> you have a radio tracker right?
[11:11] <jakeio> Yes, of course.
[11:11] <daveake> They'll need good maps, and to watch the prediction closely after burst
[11:11] <adamgreig> bear in mind also the predictions assume it gets to sea level
[11:11] <adamgreig> so if a mountain gets in the way it will land there instead
[11:11] <daveake> Hills can be a right pita when chasing
[11:11] <jakeio> Oh, right, it most assuredly won't get to sea level.
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[11:14] <adamgreig> you hope not :p
[11:15] <jakeio> Would you say that flight path has a significant risk of a wet landing?
[11:16] <jakeio> Considering that the predictor says that if I launched exactly 24hrs later, I would have a wet landing.
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[11:30] <mfa298> jakeio: if you havn't already done so it might be worth asking for an hourly to be setup, that will give you an idea of where it will land for a launch over every hour in the next week
[11:30] <jakeio> Yes, that'd probably a good idea. Who should I ask about that?
[11:30] <mfa298> generally ask in #habhub
[11:30] <jakeio> that's not that'd
[11:32] <mfa298> also remember that you can adjust the flight profile a bit by changign the ascent rate
[11:33] <mfa298> (which you might want to do anyway, I'm not sure I'd trust a 3.3 m/s ascent rate to burst as expected)
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[11:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LEGIOPI1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LEGIOPI1
[11:39] <jakeio> How do you mean mfa298?
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[11:40] <mfa298> low ascent rates on latex balloons can lead to floats (like jcoxon did at the weekend)
[11:40] <jakeio> So, what would you suggest as a target ascent rate?
[11:41] <mfa298> 3.3m/s might be ok but it's getting closer to the point that floats are likely rather than bursts
[11:41] <mfa298> 5m/s is seen as the standard / safe ascent rate
[11:41] <jakeio> OK.
[11:41] <daveake> What's the payload weight and balloon size?
[11:41] <daveake> small payloads/large balloons are probably closer to floating at a given ascent rate
[11:42] <jakeio> 950g payload
[11:42] <jakeio> 1000g balloon
[11:42] <jakeio> the 50g parachute is included in the mass of payload given there.
[11:42] <daveake> That's fairly heavy so I think you'd be OK, but aim for 5 anyway :)
[11:42] <jakeio> Would 4.5 be good enough? Or is that significantly more risky?
[11:43] <daveake> Depends how confident you are at filling accurately
[11:43] <mfa298> 5 m/s also brings your 31st prediction onto land (but only just)
[11:43] <daveake> Checking the winds for next week, it's going to be a tad windy so filling is going to be a challenge unless you have good ocver
[11:43] <daveake> cover
[11:44] <jakeio> With ascent rate at 5.02m/s (calculated using burst calculator) I get a good landing spot.
[11:44] <jakeio> We've got good tree cover at launch site.
[11:44] <Vaizki_> out of idle curiosity, what's in the payload to rack up 950g?
[11:45] <jakeio> An overly heavy polystyrene box is the cause of the high mass.
[11:46] <jakeio> There's a battery pack, a camera, a pi zero, GPS, radio and a small solar cell.
[11:47] <jakeio> The polystyrene box is like 500-600g so...
[11:47] <daveake> WTF
[11:48] <jakeio> I know. It's wasteful.
[11:48] <daveake> You might want to consider the advantages of a mroe suitable box
[11:49] <mfa298> spending a few pounds on a smaller/lighter box would probably save you a fair bit in gas
[11:49] <jakeio> Is there still time!?
[11:49] <daveake> is there still time for you to do it?
[11:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03QM-Pi-K12_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=QM-Pi-K12_chase
[11:50] <jakeio> To get a box delivered before launch day...
[11:50] <daveake> Shouldn't take long, and as mfa298 says you'll save a lot of gas
[11:50] <daveake> Well I buy mine at Hobbycraft
[11:51] <daveake> Steve sells them and I guess he can deliver by the weekend
[11:51] <jakeio> My batteries are 150g.
[11:51] <daveake> Why so much battery?
[11:52] <daveake> (not that that stops you using a lighter box)
[11:53] <jakeio> Right, I'll see what I can do. I mean, I'm a little concerned about taking stuff apart this late...
[11:54] <daveake> Up to you, but saving 500g on a 950g payload will give you a lot more altitude and more options for adjusting the flight path
[11:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LEGIOPI2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LEGIOPI2
[11:56] <mfa298> most people are lucky if the payload is boxed ready to flay 24 hours in advance so you ought to have time
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[12:07] <jakeio> Well, who should I talk to about getting that hourly predictor setup mfa298?
[12:08] <mfa298> jakeio: best bet is to ask in #habhub
[12:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K5LSU-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K5LSU-11
[12:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF5FPX-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5FPX-11
[12:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE5POJ-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE5POJ-11
[12:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W5YW-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5YW-11
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[14:01] <fsphil> was wondering where I put that
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[14:01] <AndyEsser> ha
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[14:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03G-THOR after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G-THOR
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[14:34] <craag> Unsuccessful attempt on the paper plane record yesterday: https://sites.google.com/site/rftstars7/sge-2016-project
[14:37] <Laurenceb_> I don't believe any of this paper plane stuff, all seems too fake
[14:41] <SpeedEvil> Paper is a lie.
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[14:58] <Laurenceb_> wow UBSEDS-15 is v far south
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[15:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC9ROI-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC9ROI-11
[15:22] <daveake> 1500g "paper" plane?
[15:23] <daveake> Yo America
[15:23] <Laurenceb_> Mexico will pay
[15:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC1DFW - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC1DFW
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[16:25] <AndyEsser> Completely forgot I'm over to Chester ARS tonight
[16:25] <AndyEsser> should be interesting
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[17:56] <fsphil> you may be the youngest there
[18:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0NLO_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0NLO_chase
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[19:22] <F6AGV> BHAF online 73
[19:25] <F6AGV> BHAF = French HAB !
[19:26] <F6AGV> good evening all stand by for me... look again soon Alan
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[20:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03co1cb_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=co1cb_chase
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[20:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W7QO-7 after 0314 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W7QO-7
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[20:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HAPROS - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HAPROS
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[21:11] <AndyEsser> well edmoore - you were spot on about the HAMs
[21:13] <mfa298> did they moan that you've had at least one shower in the last week
[21:13] <AndyEsser> not quite - actually was very interesting and educational
[21:13] <AndyEsser> but never saw the radio go above 14MHz
[21:14] <SM0ULC-Reb> there are reasons :)
[21:14] <AndyEsser> the guy that runs Cheshire SDR was there
[21:14] <AndyEsser> and a couple of people interested in rockets + drones
[21:14] <russss> tbh the fun stuff is <14MHz
[21:14] <AndyEsser> And in the case of equipment... they have a Dimaond X50 :P
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[21:14] <AndyEsser> and one guy is bringing an HF receiver for me to have next week
[21:14] <SM0ULC-Reb> i listened to NHK on 15130 which topped about 52 dB SNR, strong :)
[21:15] <mfa298> HF can be fun if you find the bits without "your 59 serial 65, qrz contest"
[21:16] <mfa298> and also stay away from the conversations about hemaroids
[21:16] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: my evening with sox, csdr and a sdrplay, 11+4 MHz, http://82.117.106.149:8000/full/40m.png
[21:16] <AndyEsser> all it seemed to be was speaking to people, exchanging equipment and antenna specs, and then signing off
[21:16] <AndyEsser> "speaking"
[21:17] <AndyEsser> but the assessor there seems happy enough to do the practical stuff I need for my Foundation
[21:17] Nick change: MrCraig -> KF5WYX
[21:18] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: great :)
[21:21] <mfa298> that's a lot of conversation compared to contests.
[21:21] <mfa298> unless you get count the "say again, your 59" :p
[21:22] <AndyEsser> heh
[21:22] <mfa298> I should have added a 'repeated' in there.
[21:23] <AndyEsser> but everyone seems friendly enough and always happy to give info etc
[21:23] <AndyEsser> and yea, free HF receiver :)
[21:23] <AndyEsser> now to run a cable to the end of my garden
[21:24] <mfa298> at least that can just be a long bit of wire to start with,
[21:24] <AndyEsser> yea, that's the plan - or a dipole - with the middle being the trellis I put the X50 on
[21:24] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: a upconv+rtl is also great, and cheap
[21:24] <AndyEsser> I like proper hardware ;)
[21:25] <mfa298> there are designed for dipole like antennas but not fed at the centre which can do well as well (things like the windom)
[21:25] <AndyEsser> ah ok
[21:25] <AndyEsser> also... apparently Baluns do nothing on a dipole
[21:25] <AndyEsser> ha
[21:26] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: well, just got 52 dB with hamitup+rtl and a bit better quality than with my ic-r71e
[21:26] <mfa298> depends on how you're feeding them.
[21:26] <AndyEsser> mfa298: the secretary was there saying it's a balanced antenna, and an unbalanced feed from/to the transceiver - but apparently in practice they had no difference between with or without a balun
[21:26] <mfa298> some form of balun can make sense if you're feeding a dipole (balanced antenna) with coax (unbalanced feeder)
[21:27] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: for listening... a loong wire is a good start... then.. a 9:1 unun is extra nice..
[21:27] <AndyEsser> I'm aware the theoy says it should have a balun ;)
[21:27] <mfa298> balun should stop rf coming back down the outside of the coax.
[21:27] <AndyEsser> mfa298: is that a coax only issue? or any feeder?
[21:28] <AndyEsser> they had a ladder wire feeder, not coax this evening
[21:28] <mfa298> I've usually run balanced feeder back to a balanced antenna tuner
[21:28] <SM0ULC-Reb> the correct way :)
[21:28] <mfa298> ladder line is balanced so I'm not sure a balun is needed then
[21:28] <AndyEsser> mfa298: but Transceiver is unbalanced
[21:28] <SM0ULC-Reb> should not be
[21:28] <AndyEsser> (they did have a balun this evening, but couple people said at home they don't bother)
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[21:29] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: get some coax.. get a line out hanging or vertical in a tree
[21:30] <mfa298> balun doen't really make sense for balanced feeder (balun being a shortened balanced-unbalanced)
[21:31] <mfa298> start off with a long wire and then start modding from there and see what improves things
[21:31] <AndyEsser> SM0ULC-Reb: current plan is a length of rg58 out to the garden and then... something from there ;)
[21:31] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: i've two years on old 2pair phonecable and upgrade to nice stranded one with 9:1 unun, can hardly make out difference when receiving
[21:31] <mfa298> an ATU/AMU is likely a useful investment so you can tune the antenna
[21:31] <AndyEsser> mfa298: the freebie HF thing I'm getting apparently has an ATU built in
[21:32] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: nice, i have not tuner, yet
[21:32] <mfa298> do you know which radio your getting
[21:32] <AndyEsser> one of the guys there had one of these
[21:32] <AndyEsser> http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/kx3.htm
[21:32] <AndyEsser> mfa298: sadly no
[21:32] <SM0ULC-Reb> what?
[21:32] <SM0ULC-Reb> aah
[21:32] <AndyEsser> the guy who's giving me it... doesn't have the best memory :P
[21:32] <SM0ULC-Reb> the kx3 is nice
[21:33] <AndyEsser> I think everyone there was at least twice my age
[21:33] <SM0ULC-Reb> only twice?
[21:33] <AndyEsser> hehe
[21:33] <mfa298> soem of the radios with built in ATU need to to transmit, a manual tuner you can get close by tuning for max noise
[21:33] <AndyEsser> mfa298: i will no doubt mention it excitedly in here next week when I get it :)
[21:34] <AndyEsser> Does the 2m band get used in HAB at all?
[21:34] <SM0ULC-Reb> APRS
[21:34] <AndyEsser> which isn't TX'd in the UK, I believe?
[21:34] <SM0ULC-Reb> UBSED15 for example
[21:34] <mfa298> when I went to my first radio club many years ago I wasn't the youngest there (although half the younger people were there because their parents were there)
[21:34] <AndyEsser> reason I ask - they have a 2m Yagi they're not using
[21:35] <mfa298> that was probably the best part of 20 years ago now
[21:36] <AndyEsser> mfa298: heh
[21:36] <AndyEsser> didn't think you were that old :P
[21:37] <mfa298> I think I joined when I was around 15/16
[21:37] <AndyEsser> That's about the age I first experienced amateur radio
[21:37] <AndyEsser> wish I'd just committed and gotten my license then
[21:37] <AndyEsser> ha
[21:38] <SM0ULC-Reb> my dad's a HAM but myu interest came with the packet-radio in the end of the 80s
[21:39] <SM0ULC-Reb> and.. APRS still runs on 1200 baud.. :)
[21:39] <AndyEsser> speedy
[21:39] <AndyEsser> :P
[21:40] <SM0ULC-Reb> very..
[21:40] <mfa298> I remember trying to get on the local packet bbs, but never did that well with a dos soft modem and handdheld radio
[21:40] <AndyEsser> speedy than 50 baud rtty :P
[21:41] <AndyEsser> speedier*
[21:41] <AndyEsser> one of the people did seem a bit concerned/disgusted at the idea of losing a radio on every HAB launch
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[21:44] <mfa298> mabe he thought you meant a full amamteur radio rather than a small tx module
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[21:45] <russss> I used to use packet BBSes at school
[21:45] <AndyEsser> mfa298: yea I clarified after that it's just small 10mW modules, and typically we try to recover
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[22:03] <TravisE> I am looking at launching my first HAB mid-June using APRS and want to know how to have it show on HabHub.
[22:04] <lz1dev> TravisE: you just need to give me the callsign
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[22:05] <lz1dev> it should show up once its airbourne anyway
[22:05] <TravisE> Call sign is KI7CUX
[22:06] <TravisE> So there isn't anything more than that to have it show up?
[22:07] <lz1dev> not for aprs
[22:07] <lz1dev> are you sure thats the full callsign? not something like KI7CUX-11 ?
[22:08] <TravisE> Will it only track the balloon or can it track the chase vehicle as well?
[22:08] <TravisE> sorry yes, KI7CUX-11
[22:08] <lz1dev> .aprs add KI7CUX-11
[22:08] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Added 03KI7CUX-11 to APRS Importer
[22:08] <lz1dev> it can track a vehicle as well
[22:09] <TravisE> Can you add then KI7CUX-9
[22:09] <lz1dev> .aprs add KI7CUX-9 KI7CUX-11_chase
[22:09] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Added 03KI7CUX-9 as 10(KI7CUX-11_chase) to APRS Importer
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[22:10] <TravisE> Is there a way to test to make sure that it is working?
[22:11] <lz1dev> just send position reports
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[22:15] <TravisE> lz1dev: Making sure I understand what sending position reports mean? Does that mean that once the tracker is turned on and transmitting it will upload to HabHub automatically?
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[22:17] <lz1dev> yes, if its transmission is received by an aprs igate, it will show up on the tracker
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[22:18] <TravisE> lz1dev: tyvm for the help.
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