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[04:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DK6GB _chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DK6GB%20_chase
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[06:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BRAX after 039 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BRAX
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[07:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ATLAS - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ATLAS
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[07:28] <x-f> have a long flight, jcoxon!
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[08:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[08:08] <number10> atlas is up - is 434.294
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[08:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL2YED_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL2YED_chase
[08:27] <PE2BZ> !flights
[08:27] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03AJ2 UKHASnet Flight 10(7b77), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812)
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[08:28] <PE2BZ> !payload 7b77
[08:28] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03ATLAS 10(7b77) 03$$ATLAS - 03434.3 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/425Hz ASCII-7 none 2
[08:28] <G0MJW> Better reception now I am tuned to the correct frequency - 435.050 was something else!
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[08:29] <edmoore> x-f: are you really where the map says you are?
[08:30] <PE2BZ> Good morning. It will take some time to get in my reach. I have setup the RTL ukhasnet decoder and attached my Logper and have the Icom standbye for RTTY
[08:31] <Ron_g8fjg> Ben where can I find decoder? 869 signal 15db over noise here
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[08:34] <jcoxon> Ron_g8fjg, do you have an rtl_sdr?
[08:34] <Ron_g8fjg> yes somewher, using funcube at the mo, found the decoder thanks
[08:35] <PE2BZ> rgr rgr
[08:35] <jcoxon> https://ukhas.net/wiki/guides:rtlsdr_decoder
[08:35] <jcoxon> https://ukhas.net/wiki/guides:rtlsdr_decoder_windows
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[08:36] <Upu> nice strong signal
[08:36] <Upu> did you not amend the code ? :)
[08:36] <jcoxon> nope
[08:36] <jcoxon> well a little
[08:37] <PE2BZ> Almost green $$$$$ATLAS,426,08:37:07,52.16561,0.94{18,2932,10,10*3DA0
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[08:38] <PE2BZ> Strong signal on RTTY
[08:38] <G0MJW> James - how do I reset my location on your new spacenear.us page? Thinks I am in Bradford!
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[08:41] <jcoxon> G0MJW, which one? on the ukhasnet map?
[08:41] <PE2BZ> Is the rtlsdr decoder going to show info if it decodes ? Should I just wait and be patient ?
[08:41] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> G0MJW, It will be the DL client settings in DL-fldigi
[08:43] Action: PE2BZ is afc (away for coffee)
[08:43] <G0MJW> http://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=8&qm=1_day&f=ATLAS
[08:44] <G0MJW> Not that one Geoff - the one on the web.
[08:44] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> The radio tower on the tracker comes from dl-fldigi ?
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[08:45] <SecondSun> Hi
[08:45] <mfa298> there's a window version of the #ukhasnet decorder at https://ukhas.net/wiki/software:windows:decoder
[08:45] <G0MJW> No - the little blue man that shows your current position
[08:45] <mfa298> although I'll see if I can improve the notes on that page and upload a newer version (lets you specify the gateway name)
[08:45] <SecondSun> I just added our payload and we are going to launch the balloon at 13:30 Berlin time. Launch site is Hannover, Laatzen
[08:46] <SecondSun> it would be great if you approve our flight documents. Payload name: Pingi in the Sky ; Project name: SecondSun; Team: TCI
[08:46] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> The little blueman comes from the location your browser gets from whichever location source you use.
[08:47] <craag> SecondSun: Ask with the flight doc id (long hex string) in #habhub
[08:47] <G0MJW> That's no use - that just is where the ISP is located!
[08:48] <SecondSun> thx
[08:48] <AndyEsser> gah, - thought the launch was at 10ish
[08:48] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !dial atlas
[08:48] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Latest dials for 03ATLAS 10(7b77): 03434.41027 MHz, 14.07 MHz, 434.2939 MHz, 434.632337 MHz, 434.2947 MHz, 434.651 MHz, 434.29451 MHz, 434.294631 MHz
[08:49] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Doesn't have to be you can set it depends on the browser!
[08:49] <G0MJW> My frequency will not be correct as its not connected - I'm the 434.632
[08:50] <G0MJW> Which goes back to my question - how to set it.
[08:51] <G0MJW> There is an AO73 pass coming 0957 which will move my antenna.
[08:51] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> In your browser settings you set the source and enable location
[08:51] <Upu> https://ukhas.net/nodeInfo?id=272
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[08:55] <PE1ANS> ! dial atlas
[08:56] <Upu> 434.294
[08:56] <PE1ANS> tnx
[09:00] <Upu> though is drifting up slowly
[09:00] <Upu> yay old radios
[09:01] <PE2BZ> Slowly rotate your dial with afc enabled in fldigi ;--)
[09:01] <Upu> not that bad....yet :)
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[09:03] <PE2BZ> What should the 869.5 look like on the waterfall ?
[09:05] <mfa298> it's a very short and fairly wide transmission,
[09:05] <mfa298> the fsk is 24khz wide
[09:08] <PE2BZ> So, it could be like this ? http://imgur.com/h82j7Hp
[09:09] <PE2BZ> No, that´s almost 50 kHz wide...
[09:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SecondSun - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SecondSun
[09:09] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/2X6OOjG
[09:09] <AndyEsser> now we're cooking on gas....
[09:10] <PE2BZ> Reverse use of the peltier element in the laptop cooler ?
[09:10] <AndyEsser> heh
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[09:12] <mfa298> but how are you going to cook the traitional hab bacon
[09:13] <AndyEsser> I don't have any bacon in the house :(
[09:14] <PE2BZ> G0MJW if you have no CAT enabled receiver connected you can easili move your mouse over the digits and set it to the correct frequency
[09:15] <G0MJW> Thanks - but that would require effort. I have connected it now. It was under satellite control earlier. AO-73 pass has passed.
[09:17] <PE2BZ> G0MJW fwiw I have frequency tracking in the DL client disabled. So it won´t tell anyone the frequency I am set to.
[09:19] <PE2BZ> Can anyone confirm the UKHAS frequency indeed being 869.500 ?
[09:20] <PE1ANS> PE2BZ hoi Ben Ben je ook ingelogd op freenode.nt/nl ???
[09:21] <pb0ahx> !flights
[09:21] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03AJ2 UKHASnet Flight 10(7b77), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812)
[09:22] <pb0ahx> gm all
[09:22] <PE2BZ> pb0ahx rrty op 434.295 van Atlas
[09:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IRBE1LB1 after 0319 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IRBE1LB1
[09:23] <pb0ahx> i rcvd him
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[09:25] <PE1ANS> moggeh herman
[09:28] <pb0ahx> mogge
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[09:38] <jcoxon> speeding up
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[09:41] <PE2BZ> Good morning James. Is the 869.5 on frequency ?
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[09:46] <Oddstr13> the 869.5 should be more or less spot on, yes
[09:47] <PE2BZ> Oddstr13 thanks, than I will wait patiently
[09:47] <Oddstr13> far from in range myself, so can't verify
[09:47] <Oddstr13> but the transmitter has heating to keep the crystall stabile
[09:48] <PE2BZ> Sounds like a stable solution indeed.
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[09:49] <PE2BZ> At my web sdr I have a colineair for 420 MHz so I am almost sure that is not going to work. At home I have a logper and I live 7 km from the Westcoast of Holland so I hope that will work out...
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[09:51] <Oddstr13> Telemetry graphs from the 869.5 https://ukhas.net/nodeInfo?name=AJ2 https://grafana.ukhas.net/dashboard/db/21-05-16-balloon-launch-aj2
[09:52] <bobsaget> Does anyone in here know where I can source some good material (like heptax) for making a custom envelope?
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[09:55] <PE2BZ> Oddstr13 nice info. Just the altitude seems a little low ?
[09:59] <Oddstr13> should be 4.7km from the last packet
[10:00] <Oddstr13> and that matches the data from ATLAS at that time
[10:06] <PE2BZ> Oddstra13 sorry my mistake. I expected it would be the actual date but there seem to be not that much receivers on 869
[10:06] <Oddstr13> yea, you can see a gap in the end of the graphs
[10:06] <Oddstr13> past hour or so is missing
[10:07] <Oddstr13> the altitude listed on the top is still wrong tho
[10:08] <Oddstr13> presumably all values averaged instead of last value
[10:08] <PE2BZ> No signal (from atlas) n 869.500 on the spectrum
[10:10] <Oddstr13> would it be possible with a hysplit for ATLAS, or would that only work once float altitude has setteled?
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[10:11] <jcoxon> fixed
[10:11] <jcoxon> Oddstr13, prob best to see what alt it settles at
[10:11] <jcoxon> if it does
[10:11] <rob_m0dts> is Atlas very weak on 434.295 or is it just me? (not usuing regular antennas so probably me!)
[10:12] <G0MJW> Its just you Rob - its +27dB here
[10:12] <Oddstr13> I hope it'll continue the direction it has been traveling, hehe
[10:12] <rob_m0dts> G0MJW tnx Mike.. temporay 70cm antenna up here
[10:13] <G0MJW> Maybe its vertical and you are horizontal?
[10:14] <rob_m0dts> i'm Vertical, SNR is about 20dB but normally S9+ when LOS.
[10:14] <G0MJW> If only we could put a DATV transponder on a HAB...
[10:14] <rob_m0dts> :-)
[10:14] <rob_m0dts> i willl look for 869.5 instead.
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[10:17] <junderwood> !dial ATLAS
[10:17] <SpacenearUS> 03junderwood: Latest dials for 03ATLAS 10(7b77): 03434.2964 MHz, 14.07 MHz, 434.41027 MHz, 434.295991 MHz, 434.29697 MHz, 434.29477 MHz, 0.006 MHz, 434.29594 MHz, 434.2952 MHz, 434.651 MHz, 434.29593 MHz, 434.29584 MHz, 434.295699 MHz
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[10:22] <jcoxon> going to be an interesting float
[10:22] <jcoxon> should be quite high
[10:22] <AndyEsser> still no sign here :(
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[10:30] <jcoxon> how stable is Atlas?
[10:30] <pb0ahx> atlas silace here now
[10:31] <G0MJW> Very - bit of drift with temperature and a chirp when it starts up after a pause
[10:31] <jcoxon> good
[10:31] <jcoxon> its was built in 2012
[10:32] <jcoxon> by Upu
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[10:32] <G0MJW> Another AO73 pass - antennas away
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[10:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03silver bullet_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=silver%20bullet_chase
[10:48] <DutchMillbt> PE2BZ local qrm too?
[10:48] <jcoxon> expect ATLAS to start turning now
[10:48] <PE2BZ> DutchMillbt A lot !!
[10:49] <DutchMillbt> Yep a remotecontrol 'thing' I guess
[10:51] <PE2BZ> The SDR@work does not receive the QRM ? It´s at 27 meter !
[10:53] <DutchMillbt> Just wait till the 'storm' is over i'm afraid
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[11:05] <x-f> edmoore, i don't know, i'm not on the map
[11:13] <AndyEsser> !dial ATLAS
[11:13] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Latest dials for 03ATLAS 10(7b77): 03434.296004 MHz, 1000.007 MHz, 434.296 MHz, 434.29697 MHz, 434.29489 MHz, 434.295662 MHz, 434.651 MHz, 14.07 MHz, 0.006 MHz, 434.29594 MHz, 434.295991 MHz, 434.2952 MHz, 434.295984 MHz, 434.295699 MHz, 434.29584 MHz, 434.29593 MHz
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[11:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi, whats the dial for Atlas?
[11:16] <dbrooke> 434.296
[11:16] <OZ1SKY_Brian> thanks
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[11:16] <DutchMillbt> PE2BZ qrm is gone
[11:18] <OZ1SKY_Brian> nice signal
[11:18] <swaledale> lotsa love for ATLAS
[11:19] <PE2BZ> First green from Denmark !
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[11:19] <OZ1SKY_Brian> just turned the radio on, yes Greens
[11:20] <fsphil> over the horizon, nice
[11:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes -0.5deg
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[11:25] <Darkside> assuming antennas at ground level of course
[11:25] <Darkside> well, assuming the receive antenna is at ground level
[11:27] <OZ1SKY_Brian> antenna hight is typed into dl-fldigi
[11:27] Action: PE2BZ suddenly realizes that fldigi shows the heading to Atlas so he can actually point the Logper to the 869 MHz signal without guessing on the map...
[11:28] <OZ1SKY_Brian> theres a 869MHz transmitter on it?
[11:29] <PE2BZ> 869.500 UKHASNet TX
[11:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> nice, do you hear it? what does it transmit?
[11:30] <PE2BZ> https://ukhas.net/wiki/guides:rtlsdr_decoder
[11:30] <PE2BZ> No signal yet. Using RTL dongle and Logper at 12 m asl
[11:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok got a 900-2600MHz logper, not sure how well that is on 869, vil try it out on my ar8000 though, but first abit more elevation, still -0,3deg
[11:33] <PE2BZ> what is your antenna height ?
[11:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> the logper is not mounted, handheld
[11:34] <PE2BZ> good luck, steady hand :-)
[11:34] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hehe yeah
[11:35] <OZ1SKY_Brian> can anyone cornfirm the 869,5MHz is transmitting?
[11:35] <OZ1SKY_Brian> confirm
[11:35] <PE2BZ> No one received packets afer 10:57 UTC https://grafana.ukhas.net/dashboard/db/21-05-16-balloon-launch-aj2
[11:35] <AndyEsser> :)
[11:36] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[11:36] <AndyEsser> I _think_ I might be starting to get it
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[11:36] <PE2BZ> The 869 signal ?
[11:36] <fsphil> nothing on the sdr for 869 here, but I'm not well placed atm
[11:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ill go outside and see if i can pick anything up around 869,500USB
[11:37] <PE2BZ> Brian there is windows software for rtl-sdr also
[11:37] <AndyEsser> I have atlas :)
[11:37] <PE2BZ> https://ukhas.net/wiki/software:windows:decoder
[11:37] <fsphil> nice!
[11:37] <AndyEsser> it's flakey
[11:38] <AndyEsser> no complete/non-error sentences
[11:38] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser what is your distance ?
[11:38] <AndyEsser> but pretty sure $$$$ATFAS.... is it :)
[11:38] <AndyEsser> I'll leave dl-fldigi running whilst I'm away
[11:39] <AndyEsser> as it gets closer it'll hopefully parse full packets :)
[11:39] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: about 300km
[11:40] <swaledale> AndyEsser: you got your new antenna up then?!
[11:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE2WMG-10 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE2WMG-10
[11:44] <swaledale> !Dial Atlas
[11:44] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser nice results !
[11:44] <swaledale> !dial ARLAS
[11:44] <SpacenearUS> 03swaledale: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[11:44] <swaledale> !dial ATLAS
[11:44] <SpacenearUS> 03swaledale: Latest dials for 03ATLAS 10(7b77): 03434.296208 MHz, 434.4957 MHz, 1000.007 MHz, 434.2963 MHz, 434.29697 MHz, 434.29489 MHz, 434.295662 MHz, 434.651 MHz, 14.07 MHz, 434.41027 MHz, 0.006 MHz, 434.29584 MHz, 434.295939 MHz, 434.2957 MHz, 434.295991 MHz, 434.29594 MHz, 434.29593 MHz
[11:44] <swaledale> butter fingers
[11:45] <mfa298> AndyEsser: well done, that looks like progress
[11:51] <jcoxon> whoop 30km
[11:51] <PE2BZ> you still expect it to float ?
[11:52] <jcoxon> hope so
[11:52] <jcoxon> though not shown any signs yet
[11:52] <PE2BZ> Is there a ¨float¨ prediction available ? Where would it go to ?
[11:53] <jcoxon> it'll head west
[11:53] <jcoxon> hey OZ1SKY_Brian
[11:53] <PE2BZ> OZ1SKY_Brian still has a chance to receive it then...
[11:54] <jcoxon> hey got a packet just then
[11:54] <jcoxon> he*
[11:54] <PE2BZ> on 869.5 ?
[11:54] <jcoxon> oh right, no on 434
[11:55] <PE2BZ> No packets received on 869 after 11:00 UTC if I see right ?
[11:55] <jcoxon> yeah
[11:56] <jcoxon> i was hoping to get more range from the 868
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[11:56] <PE2BZ> At this height I would have expected it to be visible on the rtl-sdr...
[11:57] <PE2BZ> Both 434 and 869 run the same output power ?
[11:58] <jcoxon> 434 is 10mW, 869 is 100mW
[11:58] <jcoxon> but the packets are much shorter on 869
[11:59] <dbrooke> closest approach to me was about 70km and I received nothing on 869.5, I think the last UKHASnet one (AH3) was probably more like 20km when I received a few packets
[12:03] <dbrooke> PE2BZ: this waterfall shows 3 transmissions from my local UKHASnet sensor nodes (and some periodic interference) http://stuff.dbrooke.me.uk/sp-eRq1Nr.png
[12:03] <dbrooke> so they are quite short duration data bursts
[12:04] <AndyEsser> either I've lost it - or it drifted :(
[12:04] <AndyEsser> didn't get a single valid sentence I don't think
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[12:04] <PE2BZ> the 3 with red and yellow ? Are they wider as 24 kHz because of the distance to your RX ?
[12:05] <swaledale> AndyEsser are you amplifying the signal or just straight fron antenna down the RG213 into the SDR?
[12:05] <AndyEsser> swaledale: straight into the SDR
[12:05] <swaledale> thats still not too bad going to pick it up with the SDR, how high did you manage to get your X50?
[12:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> what type of signal should i be looking for on 869,5 ?
[12:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> rtty?
[12:06] <jcoxon> its a packet every 30 seconds
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[12:06] <jcoxon> but OZ1SKY_Brian i lost range at about 30km so not sure you'll get it
[12:06] <PE2BZ> no, the link dbrooke send some lines up
[12:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah ok i see, so rtty every 30sec? And the dial is 869,500,000? :-)
[12:07] <PE2BZ> The dial is OK, but NO rtty. It´s UKHASNet packet style
[12:08] <PE2BZ> it´s the short bursts in the image with red and yellow colours
[12:08] <PE2BZ> Only 3 of them
[12:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> are there any soundfiles i can listen to, i hear more than one digital burst ?
[12:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM4JFX-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4JFX-11
[12:09] <PE2BZ> that frequency range is also for weather stations at home, car keys, remote door openers and so on.
[12:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PE2BZ i only got ears to check with, its outside, no SDR or any type of software, just a logper and a ar8000 rx
[12:10] <PE2BZ> OZ1SKY_Brian that will make it difficult. Short bursts but I have no idea how they sound.
[12:10] <dbrooke> https://ukhas.net/wiki/protocol_details
[12:11] <dbrooke> it is 24kHz FSK PE2BZ and that link has a sample sound
[12:11] <AndyEsser> swaledale: only a couple meters
[12:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> thanks
[12:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> will go out and check again
[12:12] <SM0ULC-Reb> i guess it not supposed to be chased? :)
[12:12] <AndyEsser> !dial artlas
[12:12] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[12:12] <AndyEsser> !dial atlas
[12:12] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Latest dials for 03ATLAS 10(7b77): 03434.296268 MHz, 434.4957 MHz, 1000.007 MHz, 434.2963 MHz, 434.29697 MHz, 434.29489 MHz, 434.651 MHz, 14.07 MHz, 434.41027 MHz, 434.2957 MHz, 0.006 MHz, 434.29594 MHz, 1.1 MHz, 434.296319 MHz, 434.295662 MHz, 434.29584 MHz, 434.296281 MHz
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[12:13] <PE2BZ> dbrooke thanks, got it now !
[12:15] <jcoxon> here comes hte float...
[12:17] <OZ1SKY_Brian> jcoxon hearing something, but i dont think its Atlas, please let me know the dial if you hear it again
[12:18] <jcoxon> okay
[12:18] <OZ1SKY_Brian> elevation is also very low, 0,2deg
[12:18] <jcoxon> i think more likely will be other nodes will pick it up as it moves away from you
[12:18] <jcoxon> if they can pick it up
[12:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> so a hypothetical questions, is this the future mode for HABs?, then i should mount the antenna permanently
[12:21] <jcoxon> OZ1SKY_Brian, no its probably not going to be
[12:21] <jcoxon> it doesn't work well enough for HABs, works well as a local ground network
[12:22] <g8fjg> jcoxon should the 869 transmission be at regular intervals, or just random?
[12:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok, but 869MHz is going to be more used, or is it a one timer?
[12:22] <AndyEsser> got the bugger back :)
[12:22] <jcoxon> g8fjg, every 30 seconds
[12:22] <g8fjg> ta
[12:23] <PE2BZ> LoRa hab is using 434 and 868 but given the shorter range I think 434 is mostly used.
[12:23] <jcoxon> OZ1SKY_Brian, well might be, perhaps Lora
[12:23] <jcoxon> not probably worth an antenna to be honest
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[12:23] <PE2BZ> But a logper 900 - 2600 MHz deserves to be mast mounted instead of hand held....
[12:24] <AndyEsser> still a lot of noise here - hopefully it'll clear up
[12:24] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PE2BZ yeah its just collecting dusy anyway
[12:25] <PE2BZ> If you have a coax left (Ecoflex 15 ?) I would mount it....
[12:25] <AndyEsser> really wish there wasn't something nearly that flooded the whole band every minute or so :(
[12:25] <rob_m0dts> I now have 3m dish setup with 869.5 feed, hopefully see something, just turning to position
[12:26] <jcoxon> rob_m0dts, awesome
[12:26] <jcoxon> you've got nodes too iirc
[12:26] <rob_m0dts> rr but never seen them be very sensitive!
[12:26] <PE2BZ> 3 m dish ? Nice !!
[12:26] <rob_m0dts> 30sec beacon?
[12:26] <fsphil> lol
[12:26] <jcoxon> yup
[12:27] <jcoxon> rob_m0dts, true :-)
[12:27] <AndyEsser> woo! first valid sentence
[12:27] <fsphil> congrats AndyEsser :D
[12:27] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser Well done !
[12:27] <rob_m0dts> looks ok on sdr..
[12:28] <AndyEsser> I imagine I'll only get a few - but at least it's something
[12:28] <PE2BZ> Atlas has a lot of green wires attached ;-)
[12:28] <jcoxon> AndyEsser, you'll get more as it moves west
[12:28] <AndyEsser> o yea :)
[12:28] <AndyEsser> what I really need... is for it to be about 50m off the ground
[12:28] <jcoxon> you might become key to the tracking
[12:28] <SpeedEvil> rob_m0dts: neat
[12:28] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser attach it to a hab ?
[12:29] <SpeedEvil> 2.4m dishes are not _horribly_ expensive on ebay
[12:29] <AndyEsser> woo - multiple sentences in a row now
[12:29] <AndyEsser> although small problem
[12:29] <AndyEsser> I need to cook breakfast/lunch
[12:29] <AndyEsser> and my laptop is on top of my oven...
[12:29] <SpeedEvil> couple of hundred quid
[12:29] <PE2BZ> No, but neighbour free houses cost a lot
[12:29] <SpeedEvil> PE2BZ: true
[12:30] <SpeedEvil> Plus, a nice robust motorised steerable is fun
[12:30] <jcoxon> if it floats its going to be a high float
[12:30] <swaledale> jcoxon much chance this could burst?
[12:30] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9z6z36kRt4 - on the topic of robust antennas
[12:30] <jcoxon> swaledale, yeah it'll be on the edge of working
[12:31] <jcoxon> at its limits performance wise so could easily burst
[12:31] <jcoxon> certainly wants to float, the ascent rate is slowly dropping
[12:31] <jcoxon> bouncing around a bit
[12:31] <rob_m0dts> freq is centered nicely on 869.5, my nodes are a bit lower inbetween: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gqu3pviy7zosfjz/869500_sdr.png?dl=0
[12:32] <rob_m0dts> i now need to try remove tx from my node as it's a tad too much ERP! and then i will be able to rx hopefully.
[12:33] <jcoxon> rob_m0dts, do you think you can see AJ2 then?
[12:33] <rob_m0dts> certainly looks like it
[12:33] <jcoxon> wow
[12:34] <jcoxon> i need to get myself a dish :-)
[12:34] <AndyEsser> speaking of...
[12:34] Action: AndyEsser does the washing up
[12:34] <rob_m0dts> removing the tx will not allow me to repeat to other nodes so cant do it...
[12:35] <RocketBoy> ascent rate slowing - i think its about to float
[12:35] <rob_m0dts> ideas?
[12:35] <jcoxon> rob_m0dts, could you put a delay onto the repeat?
[12:36] <jcoxon> or you could use serial
[12:36] <jcoxon> so just have an rx only node?
[12:36] <jcoxon> i assume you are planning to attach the node to the dish?
[12:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PE2BZ here it is http://www.antoniotomas.com/antenas-gsm-umts-3g/840-antena-yagi-radomizada-90018002100-umts.html
[12:38] <jcoxon> RocketBoy, nice and high
[12:38] <PE2BZ> OZ1SKY_Brian nice. I bought that one myself 2 weeks ago from Canada. Works nice for L-Band Iridium and Sat bands with preamp
[12:38] <rob_m0dts> yes currently LNA at dish and sdr in the shack... ha yes i can just run it in the shack, lna will block the tx signal to dish.
[12:38] <AndyEsser> coming through nice and clear now :)
[12:40] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PE2BZ got mine from a frind that works in telecoms, they just throw then out, when they take down a site :-(
[12:40] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser I guess you should order a meal online today ;-)
[12:40] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lots of good stuff just ends up in the dumpster
[12:41] Action: PE2BZ is afc (away for coffee)
[12:41] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: nah - I have a friend coming over for dinner
[12:41] <AndyEsser> and she'll sit there going "Why does yuo laptop have a cable running outside?"
[12:41] <AndyEsser> and I'll try not to sound like the rampant nerd I am
[12:41] <AndyEsser> ...
[12:41] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser Life is al about priorities. Friends are one of them ;-)
[12:42] <OZ1SKY_Brian> AndyEsser LOL
[12:44] <AndyEsser> feels good to have an antenna and green line to a payload from my location to a payload that's like 300km away :)
[12:44] <AndyEsser> all I've ever had before is my own payloads 20cm away
[12:44] <AndyEsser> ha
[12:45] <rob_m0dts> i think my node is too far off freq to decode, about 10k low... will have to tweak freq if i remember how..hi
[12:46] <AndyEsser> I've also had a quick look at the house, and think I've found somewhere that should get me a good bit of height, and mostly go above the roof :)
[12:46] <AndyEsser> just need a long ladder
[12:46] <jcoxon> rob_m0dts, shout if you need a hand
[12:46] <rob_m0dts> rr
[12:47] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser Size does matter these days ...
[12:48] <AndyEsser> well as much as I'd love a steerable yagi for tracking
[12:48] <AndyEsser> think the X50 has proven today it's good enough :)
[12:48] <OZ1SKY_Brian> very stable signal, only moved 30Hz since i started hearing it, and that might as well be my rx
[12:48] <PE2BZ> I am running the 434 RX on a diamond X-510 (6, 2, 70 cm)
[12:48] <AndyEsser> ah nice
[12:49] <AndyEsser> what's the 6m band used for?
[12:49] <PE2BZ> 370 km now. Antenna at 13 m asl
[12:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 6m is a dx band like 10m etc
[12:49] <PE2BZ> 6m band = 50 MHz = HAM radio in some countries, very sporadic E sensitive
[12:50] <AndyEsser> friend has cancelled - which means I can sit and track for as long as I want :)
[12:50] <OZ1SKY_Brian> one of my favorit bands :-)
[12:50] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser is she reading with us ?
[12:50] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lol
[12:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> and keep your audiocable pluged in
[12:51] <PE2BZ> www rent a ladder dot com
[12:51] <AndyEsser> I'll just borrow one from work
[12:51] <AndyEsser> and hope the landlord doesn't mind me strapping an antenna to the pipe coming out of the boiler ;)
[12:52] <AndyEsser> at least it's tucked around the corner so shouldn't be visible :)
[12:52] <PE2BZ> I go to work on my bike ;-)
[12:52] <PE2BZ> Sometimes better say sorry afterwards then ask before ;-)
[12:53] <OZ1SKY_Brian> signal droped abit now but elevaton didnt
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[12:54] <OZ1SKY_Brian> about 3-4db snr drop
[12:54] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: agreed :)
[12:55] <AndyEsser> niose has gone up for me
[12:56] <PE2BZ> 24 dB still here atm
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[12:56] <OZ1SKY_Brian> about the same here, but its moving away now i see
[12:56] <daveake> Seems unsure which direction to head in :)
[12:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> moving about 100m away pr packet
[12:57] <PE2BZ> Down is not an option !
[12:57] <PE2BZ> Just let it land in a 3 m size dish at rob´s place..
[12:58] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: dl-fldigi is saying ~12db here
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[12:58] <PE2BZ> Not bad Andy, given the longer distance and antenna height !
[12:59] <AndyEsser> have only had 1 good packet in the last few minutes
[12:59] <daveake> Looks like a float
[13:00] <AndyEsser> I need to find out whatever keeps flooding the band and shut it down
[13:00] <PE2BZ> Did you right mouse button the RTTY in FLDIGI and set the receiving bandwidth to about 170 HZ ?
[13:00] <Ben-AstroSoc> it's probably your microwave andy ;)
[13:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> and shift to about 470Hz
[13:01] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser that could be all remote light controls, garage door openers, remote crane controls, smart meters, meteo weather stations...
[13:01] <rob_m0dts> can see it on the sdr 30sec intervals OK but no decode with rfm69
[13:01] <PE2BZ> +1 to the 470 Hz shift
[13:02] <AndyEsser> Ben-AstroSoc: I don't own a microwave
[13:02] <jcoxon> rob_m0dts, even when freq shifted down?
[13:02] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: nah this is broadband noise - floods as far as I can see fully zoomed out in SDR#
[13:02] <rob_m0dts> yes, correct freq now within a few hundred Hz
[13:02] <AndyEsser> I had to put 500Hz shift in to get the packets back
[13:03] <PE2BZ> Andy can you dump a screenshot ?
[13:03] <rob_m0dts> my own nodes are repeating ok so it appears good.. hmm
[13:03] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: of the noise?
[13:03] <AndyEsser> two secs
[13:03] <PE2BZ> rtty and noise please, on fldigi
[13:03] <jcoxon> rob_m0dts, thats frustrating
[13:03] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/UplSGHI
[13:03] <jcoxon> got an rtl_sdr?
[13:04] <rob_m0dts> yes that is the next step... where is latest code on github?
[13:04] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/MYJ4BN1
[13:04] <jcoxon> rob_m0dts, pop on to #ukhasnet
[13:04] <rob_m0dts> k
[13:04] <jcoxon> can discucss how to setup there
[13:05] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser I still would recommend to right mouse the RTTY in fldigi right bottom, and in that screen on the bottom make the RX bandwidth a bit larger.
[13:06] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: where it reads 918?
[13:06] <PE2BZ> No, left bottom left to 50/500
[13:07] <AndyEsser> you said right
[13:07] <AndyEsser> :P
[13:07] <AndyEsser> the "receive filter bandwidth"?
[13:07] <PE2BZ> When I ´m not right I am left...
[13:07] <PE2BZ> Yes !
[13:07] <PE2BZ> I have 183
[13:07] <AndyEsser> is that the width of the 'red' bits?
[13:07] <PE2BZ> Yes
[13:08] <AndyEsser> stuck at 200
[13:08] <PE2BZ> Is auto on ?
[13:09] <jcoxon> must have a great view right now
[13:09] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser ignore my latest question
[13:09] <PE2BZ> jcoxon did you hide a camera somewhere ?
[13:09] <jcoxon> hehe
[13:09] <jcoxon> sadly not
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[13:12] <PE2BZ> http://109.109.112.170:10000/snap.jpg The Hague on 20 km distance
[13:12] <AndyEsser> damnit... fiddled and lost it :(
[13:12] <PE2BZ> Lost what ?
[13:13] <AndyEsser> decoding in dl-fldigi
[13:13] <AndyEsser> still got strong lines, but nonsense
[13:13] <AndyEsser> SNR has dropped to 9db
[13:13] <PE2BZ> screenshot from fldigi ?
[13:13] <AndyEsser> in fact, the peaks have plummeted in SDR# as well - not as clear a signal anymore
[13:13] <AndyEsser> might be unrelated to my fiddling then ;)
[13:14] <AndyEsser> down at -40dB in SDR#
[13:14] <jcoxon> ukhasnet packet!
[13:14] <jcoxon> rob_m0dts, did it
[13:14] <PE2BZ> Your landlord is fiddling...
[13:14] <swaledale> AndyEsser: Up the zoom control in SDR# (top right slider) to see the peaks more clearly
[13:14] <AndyEsser> swaledale: I'm pretty far zoomed in already ;)
[13:14] <AndyEsser> I meant that they're now lower than they were before
[13:14] <jcoxon> https://grafana.ukhas.net/dashboard/db/21-05-16-balloon-launch-aj2
[13:14] <PE2BZ> jcoxon Great !
[13:14] <swaledale> ah sorry, screenshot was far out
[13:14] <AndyEsser> therefore decreasing SNR
[13:15] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/vxgETMS
[13:15] <AndyEsser> hardly seeing it at all now :(
[13:15] <swaledale> got it, thats better
[13:15] <swaledale> what did u change? did you alter the gain in SDR#?
[13:16] <AndyEsser> nah just bandwidth and frequency - tried to reduce the bandwidth so that less noise got in
[13:16] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser don´t worry. The X-50 is not made for HAB at 37 km Height. It will raise in strenght when Atlas raises or gets down.
[13:16] <AndyEsser> yea, lost the signal altogether now :(
[13:16] <AndyEsser> will keep checking as it gets closer
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[13:17] <swaledale> its moving closer to you, so would have thought it would get stronger not weaker, although i see its still rising
[13:17] <PE2BZ> Turnstile or Helical is better for HAB or radiosonde or satellite use. But so much to receive and so less space for antennas
[13:17] <AndyEsser> I want to get a QFH for satellite stuff
[13:17] <PE2BZ> I am 5 dB down now. at about 19 dB
[13:17] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: where are you?
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[13:18] <AndyEsser> lost signal completely now :(
[13:18] <PE2BZ> I have both a 405 and a 137 MHz QFH. The 137 MHz should be mounted as far away from the QRM as possible, it´s more sensitive than the Diamond.
[13:18] <AndyEsser> that might be a problem for me then ;)
[13:19] <AndyEsser> I'd like a 137MHz QFH for getting NOAA/Meteor weather images
[13:19] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser I am in Naaldwijk, the Netherlands (JO21CX)
[13:19] <AndyEsser> ah cool
[13:20] <AndyEsser> signal seems to be slowly coming back
[13:20] <swaledale> payload coming down slightly
[13:20] <swaledale> nice float
[13:21] <AndyEsser> if it could drop about 2-3 km that'd be grand ;)
[13:21] <x-f> impressive altitude for float
[13:21] <AndyEsser> decent altitude for non-float!
[13:21] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser http://imgur.com/o99Ut7P
[13:22] <AndyEsser> anyone used an RTL SDR with VMWare?
[13:22] <AndyEsser> shiny
[13:22] <PE2BZ> Diamond, QFH and Logper on one picture
[13:23] <AndyEsser> I'd love to get a really nice setup here - but not sure I can get the landlord onboard ;)
[13:23] <AndyEsser> could probably easily do it at work
[13:23] <AndyEsser> with benefit of no buildings nearby over about 2 stories
[13:23] <AndyEsser> but likely more QFM
[13:23] <AndyEsser> QRM*
[13:23] <PE2BZ> Would not run for me. It does run but USB is stuttering (Oracle virtual box)
[13:24] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser fast internet available at work ? That´s my problem
[13:25] <AndyEsser> 20/20 on a 100mbit bearer
[13:25] <AndyEsser> Want to stick my SDR into my vmware hypervisor server - but don't know if it'll do the USB passthrough
[13:25] <AndyEsser> signal getting a bit stronger, still cna't decode
[13:27] <PE2BZ> Do you have router / port forwarding access ?
[13:28] <AndyEsser> given I'm the IT Director... I should probably be able to manage that :)
[13:28] <AndyEsser> packets coming back no
[13:28] <AndyEsser> now*
[13:28] <gonzo_m> going out portable/mobile to a quiet highish spot is often good
[13:29] <gonzo_m> and you gey outdoors for a bit
[13:29] <gonzo_m> get
[13:29] <PE2BZ> LOL. Do yourself a favour and set up an SDR-Radio server and connect to it from home wits SDR-Console ...
[13:29] <AndyEsser> I'd love to get a remote listening station somewhere over in snowdonia
[13:29] Action: PE2BZ assumes that Andy is running Windows
[13:29] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: if I decide to mount the antennas at work - I will do
[13:30] <AndyEsser> or even if I do it from home - probably makes sense to have it all go via a server, so I can sit on my laptop downstairs and connect etc
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[13:30] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser My job left me 3 colineairs for 420 MHz and lightning protection at 27 m asl.... 1 PC, one Beaglebone and I am settled...
[13:31] <AndyEsser> nice
[13:31] <AndyEsser> sadly I can't think of a business reason for work to buy the antennas :)
[13:31] <g8fjg> AndyEsser did you get the config as PE2BZ suggested? http://i.imgur.com/QDRyJuj.jpg
[13:31] <PE2BZ> And the Beaglebone was only necessary for not having to stop my skymonitor when Bill G wants my Windows to update and reboot.
[13:32] <AndyEsser> g8fjg: barring a slightly wider carrier shift and higher receive bandwidth - yes
[13:32] <AndyEsser> should start getting some successful decodes back again soon
[13:32] <g8fjg> ok
[13:33] <jcoxon> it could potentially be a very very slow float
[13:33] <gonzo_m> my remote station is all vnc.
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[13:33] <AndyEsser> gah! keeps just being 1 char off :)
[13:33] <gonzo_m> low tech but works
[13:33] <PE2BZ> gonzo_m internal or external connection ?
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[13:34] <gonzo_m> external. when I"m supposed to be workiing
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[13:34] <PE2BZ> I have 20 / 4 Internet at work. That´s to slow for upload for VNC
[13:34] <gonzo_m> though the new internet may limit me a little
[13:35] <AndyEsser> succesful packets again!
[13:35] <gonzo_m> the downsrream from the housre was 1.5meg. that eas useable on vnc
[13:35] <PE2BZ> At my work I am responsible for all wireless controls of vehicles, doors, transportation systems, so I legally builded an SDR server. Added some SDR for at home too ;-)
[13:35] <gonzo_m> now i have 4.5/0.7 !
[13:35] <PE2BZ> That´s not much...
[13:36] <PE2BZ> Almost packet radio...
[13:36] <AndyEsser> quicker to send the packets via USB key :)
[13:36] <JDat> !dial ATLAS
[13:36] <SpacenearUS> 03JDat: Latest dials for 03ATLAS 10(7b77): 03434.295931 MHz, 434.4957 MHz, 434.2963 MHz, 434.29697 MHz, 434.29489 MHz, 434.295662 MHz, 434.651 MHz, 14.07 MHz, 434.41027 MHz, 434.2957 MHz, 434.29584 MHz, 434.295818 MHz, 1.1 MHz, 434.29587 MHz, 434.297 MHz, 434.29594 MHz, 434.296281 MHz
[13:36] <gonzo_m> nope. before was 38/1.5 but it is the 1.5 that mattered!
[13:36] <PE2BZ> JDat 434.296 is about right
[13:36] <JDat> OK!
[13:36] <AndyEsser> 434.297 is me
[13:36] <JDat> Tnx
[13:36] <PE2BZ> np
[13:37] <JDat> I am In Latvia, but want to try websdr.org for receiving ;)
[13:37] <gonzo_m> rather than trying to get iq data over the net. i do all decode locally. just tweak the tuning and fldigi on vnc
[13:37] <AndyEsser> 277km from me according to habhub
[13:37] <PE2BZ> Latvia is just ¨a little¨ out of reach ;-)
[13:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> and its going the wrong way
[13:38] <AndyEsser> dropping again - down to -40 for me :(
[13:38] <PE2BZ> gonzo_m SDR Console (server) only sends the tuned part over the net. It runs with waterfall in about 400 KBit/s
[13:39] <JDat> I got signal from http://websdr.suws.org.uk/
[13:39] <gonzo_m> and switch antennas. i have a udp relay box on an sma 6port rf relay.
[13:39] <JDat> :D
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[13:39] <gonzo_m> but currentlt nothibg connected at all. getting withdrawl symptoms
[13:39] <AndyEsser> wonder how fsphil is getting on
[13:39] <PE2BZ> gonzo_m That´s the part I have to make yet....
[13:40] <AndyEsser> gonzo_m: does that do what I think it does?!
[13:40] <AndyEsser> basically streams the RF from the antenna over UDP?
[13:40] <AndyEsser> wow- signal up to -30 now :)
[13:40] <gonzo_m> also when I select certain antennasm it also switches the psu's for that part of the system.
[13:40] <jcoxon> prediction
[13:40] <jcoxon> http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=68717dd202a1e8c6d71f025b79cd45e84fc3ffdc
[13:41] <AndyEsser> woo, still predicted to get closer to me :)
[13:41] <AndyEsser> although at this rate it'll be Thursday...
[13:41] <AndyEsser> :P
[13:42] <gonzo_m> nope. it is a udp control of electro mech relays. to select the antennad that connect to the rx
[13:42] <JDat> Yes, I decoded some data...
[13:42] <AndyEsser> gonzo_m: ah
[13:42] <AndyEsser> gonzo_m: what's the loss/noise like for something like that?
[13:43] <gonzo_m> the main rx is still a stand alone ar5000. i use an sdr-iq on the IF just as a soectral display
[13:43] <gonzo_m> andy, I have preamps on all rx feeds. so losses are not an issue
[13:43] <AndyEsser> fair enough
[13:44] <AndyEsser> signal still getting stronger, up to -25dB now :)
[13:44] <gonzo_m> on 70cm the route is via 4 rf relays
[13:45] <gonzo_m> yagi/collinear select. then via the lna/pa. and in the house, 2 relays to select tcvr or rx. then the 6port relay tothe rx
[13:46] <PE2BZ> I have to find a nice way to have one LNA and the ability to switch different SAW / Bandpass filters in front...
[13:46] <PE2BZ> 2 times a 6 port relay....
[13:46] <gonzo_m> just swapping connectors would be easier. but I don't trust myselt to remember.
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[13:47] <gonzo_m> i have done just that. 2x relays
[13:47] Action: PE2BZ drives to work. Swaps antenna connectors / drives home / finds out wrong connector...
[13:47] <gonzo_m> hehe. know thefeeling
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[13:47] <PE2BZ> Usually I modify at friday and test before driving home ;-)
[13:47] <Laurenceb_> is this H2 or He inflated?
[13:48] <jcoxon> He
[13:48] Action: PE2BZ has no clue about the question but when the tone of the balloons voice raised it would be He for sure
[13:49] <fsphil> AndyEsser: currently on a mountain :)
[13:49] <PE2BZ> a dutch mountain....
[13:49] <AndyEsser> fsphil: saw you were on the map ;)
[13:49] <fsphil> well, ~400m asl
[13:50] <AndyEsser> right, shall leave laptop doing it's thing and check back occassionally - off to go shoot bad guys in the face :)
[13:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03fsphil_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=fsphil_chase
[13:51] <AndyEsser> if whatever reason someone needs me... get fsphil to poke me on Twitter ;)
[13:51] <fsphil> ah there I am
[13:51] <fsphil> 480m ASL, nice
[13:52] <Oddstr13> fsphil: ~600m here, get on my level :P
[13:52] <fsphil> hah
[13:52] <AndyEsser> as long as I can hear RTTY from my kitchen - I'll assume all is good
[13:52] <fsphil> so atlas has a good float from the looks of it
[13:53] <fsphil> will try yagi in the car. surrounded by dark clouds here, don't want to risk stepping outside just yet :)
[13:53] <fsphil> !track atlas
[13:53] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=atlas
[13:53] <Laurenceb_> 38km
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[13:59] Action: PE2BZ has stopped trying to decode 869.5 MHz time to do some other things with the dongle...
[14:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03X0 after 0314 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=X0
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[14:08] <Laurenceb_> ATLAS is on 868 band?
[14:09] <jcoxon> 434 RTTY, UKHASnet on 868
[14:09] <AndyEsser> lost the signal again :(
[14:10] <Laurenceb_> ok
[14:10] <Laurenceb_> is it planned to be recovered?
[14:11] <jcoxon> Laurenceb_, no plans
[14:11] <Laurenceb_> ah, I was going to say a float over north sea and back would be risky :D
[14:11] <jcoxon> i fear though that its going to keep climbing
[14:11] <AndyEsser> back agin :)
[14:12] <Laurenceb_> what was the predicted burst height?
[14:12] <mattbrejza> that list of recievers...
[14:12] Action: PE2BZ is seeing Andy in a Mr Bean sketch with a TV antenna
[14:12] <mattbrejza> 38km, nice
[14:13] <jcoxon> its a howyee 1600
[14:13] <jcoxon> so anything can happen
[14:15] <swaledale> 1600 not from the same batch as daveake on monday then :)
[14:16] <DL1SGP> is that SecondSun doing RTTY on 434.250 here or anythinge else afloat on that QRG :)
[14:17] <jcoxon> remember when 38km was unheard of as an altitude
[14:19] <G0MJW> In the 1930s?
[14:19] <jcoxon> hehe for a balloon
[14:19] <jcoxon> :-)
[14:20] <G0MJW> Ah. Excluding high altitude balloons, yes.
[14:20] <G0MJW> Looks like you have your float
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[14:23] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: close ;)
[14:25] Action: PE2BZ is having arguments with SDR-Console. If it has to doppler correct Ao7 it starts hopping in frequency. Doppler X Doppler V Doppler X Doppler V and so on.
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[14:30] <RocketBoy> swaledale: daves one on monday was quite old - back from a time when hy-1600 either broke records or burst early
[14:30] <RocketBoy> this one is a current batch
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[14:35] <jcoxon> RocketBoy, can you text me if something dramatic happens, driving back to Kent
[14:36] <RocketBoy> will do
[14:38] <PE2BZ> Atlas gives a very nice payload telemetry stats Pie ;-)
[14:38] Nick change: GeekShad1w -> GeekShadow
[14:40] <swaledale> looks good for the current batch then
[14:41] <RocketBoy> yeah - they have been much more consistent in the last couple of years
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[14:47] <dbrooke> now it's floating, please could an admin enable hysplit for Atlas
[14:49] <lz1dev> .hysplit add Atlas
[14:49] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Added 03Atlas to defaults
[14:49] <lz1dev> .hysplit run Atlas
[14:49] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Your job has been added to the queue. Check in a few minutes
[14:50] <dbrooke> thanks lz1dev
[14:51] <jcoxon> hysplit struggles at this altitude
[14:51] <jcoxon> bbl
[14:51] <swaledale> whats hysplit? newb question sorry
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[14:53] <lz1dev> .whereis atlas
[14:53] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03ATLAS is over 03North Sea 10(53.2942,0.79197) at 0338748 meters
[14:53] <lz1dev> wut
[14:53] <lz1dev> its floating at that?
[14:53] <lz1dev> .hysplit remove atlas
[14:53] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Removed 03atlas from defaults
[14:53] <RocketBoy> swaledale: a hiigh altitude drift program - originally developed for fallout predictions
[14:53] <PE2BZ> Indeed floating at that level
[14:53] <RocketBoy> it will predict the atlas path
[14:53] <lz1dev> hysplit doesnt work for at that altitude ;(
[14:54] <swaledale> ah ok thx
[14:54] <lz1dev> .whereis 669nt
[14:54] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03669NT was over 03South Pacific Ocean 10(-53.3714,-179.9555) at 0333645 meters about 038 minutes ago
[14:54] <lz1dev> ^ super pressure balloon
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[14:58] <DutchMillbt> Hi all any info about SecondSun? Rx just a weak rtty signal @434.250 looks like 300bd
[14:59] <dbrooke> oh, sorry, I didn't know hysplit wouldn't work at that altitude
[14:59] <AndyEsser> signal drop out again :(
[15:00] <G0MJW> Why the rapid frequency change?
[15:01] <PE2BZ> G0MJW which change ? Atlas is quite stable over here
[15:02] <swaledale> !dial ATLAS
[15:02] <SpacenearUS> 03swaledale: Latest dials for 03ATLAS 10(7b77): 03434.295486 MHz, 434.4957 MHz, 434.2961 MHz, 434.29686 MHz, 434.295662 MHz, 434.651 MHz, 14.07 MHz, 434.41027 MHz, 434.2951 MHz, 434.29578 MHz, 1.1 MHz, 434.295818 MHz, 434.29536 MHz
[15:02] <G0MJW> About a minute ago - dropped in frequency quite rapidly. Now stable again.
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[15:13] <DL1SGP> DutchMillbt: qrg 434.251 as it sounds like, dirty signal
[15:14] <G0MJW_> Why is firefox so dreadfully unstable
[15:14] <rob_m0dts> just you (!) fine here
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[15:15] <G0MJW_> Anything with flash in it crashes the browser.
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[15:31] <fsphil> s/firefox/flash/
[15:34] <rob_m0dts> my 70cm is so poor now with single yagi i cant decode! 869.5 is good signal :-)
[15:34] Nick change: DL7AD1 -> DL7Ad
[15:34] Nick change: DL7Ad -> DL7AD
[15:35] <fsphil> not even a hint of it here. I made a recording of the iq, might see if I can pick out the preamble
[15:36] <AndyEsser> it's dropped off here again
[15:36] <AndyEsser> wonder if it's rotating and has a black spot
[15:36] <fsphil> could be local obstructions around you
[15:37] <AndyEsser> it's hiding in the noise floor here atm
[15:37] <AndyEsser> should come back
[15:37] <AndyEsser> definitely suggests I need the antenna higher :)
[15:37] <rob_m0dts> come up here now
[15:39] <fsphil> got a fairly good signal from the 434mhz beacon on my 868mhz yagi :)
[15:39] <Upu> corking float
[15:39] <Upu> not seen one this high for ages
[15:40] <G0MJW_> Drifting again
[15:41] <G0MJW_> Stable again
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[15:43] <irbe1> hello! can you please accept irbe1lb1? we are planning to launch in a few minutes
[15:43] <SIbot> In real units: 1 lbs = 454 g
[15:43] <daveake> Wrong bot
[15:44] <daveake> irbe1: Post the tested flight document ID in #habhub
[15:44] <Upu> Well
[15:45] <Upu> I've been out all afternoon
[15:45] <Upu> and its not drifted outside the 3000Hz of dl-fldigi
[15:45] <Upu> possibly one I retro fitted with a TCXO
[15:46] <daveake> cracking float
[15:46] <irbe1> I think it is this ID: 32619aff6fbe9570e816642f9fe55f52
[15:47] <daveake> That's the payload doc; did you do a flight doc ?
[15:47] <daveake> bit late now if not
[15:48] <daveake> You'll appear on the map once you start uploading, which you need to do right now before you launch
[15:50] <G0MJW_> Its only a small drift - but otherwise very stable
[15:50] <Upu> done irbe1
[15:50] <Upu> SpacenearUS> Upu: Flight IRBE-1: Legacy launch (8153d24a069d3acda8c61afe95053000) has been approved! Good luck
[15:50] <daveake> irbe1: Upu has approved the flight doc; please start uploading telemetry now so it appears on the map
[15:51] <irbe1> geat! thanks! we will try it out!
[15:52] <Upu> So Atlas will probably drop 10k-15km when the sun sets
[15:53] <daveake> yeah, so that will change the path a lot
[15:53] <irbe1> small problems. we got two transmitters and it seems our rf switch is other way arround. While testing in near distance, we did not notic it. Small delay becuase of need of reprogramming
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[15:57] <AndyEsser> Upu: has been rock solid on freq
[15:58] <Upu> maybe RFM22B's get better with age
[15:58] <AndyEsser> heh
[15:58] <AndyEsser> back to a ~-32dB signal here :)
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[16:01] <irbe1> can you please clean map from old/incorect irbe1lb1 path
[16:01] <SIbot> In real units: 1 lbs = 454 g
[16:03] <Upu> donme irbe1
[16:08] <irbe1> is there a dealy before its ccleans? sory, we will stay offline nextime when gps is not locked
[16:09] <irbe1> thanks! :)
[16:14] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser is that the fldigi s/n value ?
[16:14] <PE2BZ> That´s very good, mine is 21 now.
[16:19] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser my distance now is 312 km
[16:19] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: no - it's what SDR# is showing at the peak
[16:19] <fsphil> Upu: just wait until sunset :)
[16:20] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser OK, and what´s the S/N in fldigi ?
[16:20] <AndyEsser> annoyingly despite a strong signal - fldigi isn't decoding :(
[16:20] <AndyEsser> 13
[16:20] <PE2BZ> Not decoding ? Kick it. !
[16:20] <Upu> well yes :)
[16:20] <PE2BZ> I am afk for dinner. Be back later...
[16:21] <AndyEsser> the payload is currently in my blind spot - hopefully when it gets closer it'll clear up
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[16:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7RXR-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7RXR-11
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[16:32] <AndyEsser> yay - is back
[16:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IRBE1LB1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IRBE1LB1
[16:36] <swaledale> boom
[16:37] <swaledale> looks like a burst
[16:38] <Upu> yep
[16:38] <G0MJW_> Oops - sorry - transmitting too much power towards it
[16:38] <Upu> lol
[16:38] <swaledale> lol
[16:39] <fsphil> aww
[16:39] <G0MJW_> If its unlucky it will end up in Hull
[16:40] <swaledale> somebody let jcoxon know
[16:40] <junderwood> Need to head for Spurn Point with a net
[16:41] <fsphil> finally a use for that
[16:41] <fsphil> bet it doesn't work :)
[16:41] <swaledale> lol
[16:41] <swaledale> or goes into spam
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[16:42] <jcoxon> typical
[16:42] <fsphil> well this solves my problem of how to get the antenna in the attic without cutting a hole in the roof for the coax
[16:42] <jcoxon> get home and burst
[16:43] <fsphil> looks like it could be a wet landing
[16:43] <jcoxon> i should just never travel home
[16:43] <swaledale> will it really get back to coast or is predictor assuming a slower descent?
[16:44] <jcoxon> its got a big parachute on it
[16:44] <jcoxon> so
[16:44] <jcoxon> i reckon it'll glide
[16:44] <fsphil> it's moving towards the coast
[16:44] <swaledale> oh it has, i see. assumed -18vertical or faster meant it hadnt
[16:45] <G0MJW_> Was it supposed to burst?
[16:46] <jcoxon> G0MJW_, it was always going to burst but i had hoped it would reach nightfall
[16:46] <jcoxon> and it would have proably floated until sunrise
[16:46] <G0MJW_> Ah - pity - Flew too high, too soon
[16:47] <jcoxon> exactly
[16:47] <swaledale> too many stirks? ;)
[16:47] <fsphil> "it saw the whole of the moon..."
[16:47] <fsphil> got that song in my head now
[16:47] <jcoxon> swaledale, perhaps just one too many
[16:47] <jcoxon> floating these latex balloons is quite hard
[16:48] <G0MJW_> No - that's too high, too far, too soon.
[16:48] <fsphil> normally when it's been floating for a while, it's usually alright
[16:48] <swaledale> yeah i bet, that was quite a float for a while tho
[16:50] <number10> what is the furthest float we have had with latex?
[16:50] <fsphil> trans-atlantic
[16:50] <AndyEsser> predicted landing site?
[16:50] <number10> what one was that fsphil ?
[16:50] <fsphil> the california to spain flight was the best so far afaik
[16:51] <number10> wow
[16:51] <fsphil> it survived a few sunrises
[16:51] <jcoxon> they got the gas just right
[16:51] <jcoxon> we should do more floaters - they are more fun then up/down
[16:51] <number10> my one got to russia, but there were no trackers
[16:51] <fsphil> http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-12/amateur-radio-balloon-makes-record-transcontinental-transatlantic-flight
[16:51] <AndyEsser> if it glides passed the halfway point I might go chase it
[16:51] <fsphil> sorry, not spain
[16:52] <AndyEsser> heheh
[16:52] <jcoxon> number10, yeah that was a fun flight
[16:52] <AndyEsser> $$FATLAS
[16:52] <AndyEsser> :)
[16:52] <swaledale> guess floaters mean a bit more variety in landing spots, good for the whole community to be involved
[16:52] <jcoxon> oh yes
[16:52] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser that would be nice. Receive and catch on the same day ;-)
[16:52] <G0MJW_> best not to mention floaters
[16:52] <number10> that one was launched for you place jcoxon .. when steve tried the valve
[16:52] <number10> from
[16:52] <jcoxon> oh cool
[16:53] <fsphil> I got one to belarus
[16:53] <number10> steves didnt go so well - I think it descended too far at night
[16:53] <fsphil> just an overnight though, didn't survive sunrise
[16:53] <daveake> I managed Ukraine
[16:53] <fsphil> should do another one of those
[16:54] <number10> I think I remember that daveake
[16:54] <daveake> That was the one where Upu glided into Holland
[16:54] <Upu> literally
[16:54] <number10> he is so light
[16:55] <fsphil> lol
[16:55] <daveake> with pink card and RAF badges
[16:56] <number10> I can hear him singing dambusters
[16:56] <junderwood> According to earth.nullschool.net the jetstream at 250 mbar (10 km) is a bit vicious today.
[16:57] <junderwood> I think it should take off towards the north any time now
[16:57] <jcoxon> yeah its going to accelerate a lot in a bit
[16:57] <jcoxon> on ascent i saw 50m/s
[16:57] <junderwood> If you're lucky it could be slightly to the west of the prediction
[16:58] <G0MJW_> https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-355.38,49.49,3000
[16:58] <G0MJW_> and https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/250hPa/orthographic=-355.38,49.49,3000 for 10km
[16:59] <junderwood> Looks like there is a sink in Cambridge on the first one.
[17:00] <G0MJW_> Pretty fast jetstream to the North
[17:04] <swaledale> the nearest receiver isnt picking up much, chances of final position low?
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[17:05] <swaledale> speeding up now
[17:06] <RocketBoy> looks like that chute is working well - too well
[17:08] <number10> what size is chute, and payload RocketBoy
[17:08] <RocketBoy> 1m
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[17:09] <RocketBoy> it is was one i was prepared to loose
[17:09] <RocketBoy> an old parasheet
[17:10] <PE2BZ> Someone should shoot the chute...
[17:11] <AndyEsser> yea.. I'm not driving across the country ;)
[17:11] <PE2BZ> Row row row your boat ....
[17:11] <swaledale> bets on a beach landing?
[17:11] <PE2BZ> 5 Euro on wetter than wet....
[17:12] <swaledale> £1 on the Zebrugge ferry
[17:12] <PE2BZ> lol
[17:12] <PE2BZ> it´s at airplane height now....
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[17:13] <PE2BZ> www dot will it float long enough dot com
[17:13] <RocketBoy> we need boatymcboatface
[17:13] <fsphil> floaty mcfloatface failed us
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[17:15] <AndyEsser> jcoxon: what weight was the payload?
[17:16] <PE2BZ> But it could still land on sea and still be on land. (kilnsea )
[17:16] <PE2BZ> AndyEsser are you looking for the right size boat ? ;-)
[17:17] <JDat> nlincs! You will get last packet from ATLAS! Good luck!
[17:17] <PE2BZ> at -0.0 elevation I am going to loose it....
[17:18] <swaledale> Hull > Zebrugge departs Sat/Sun at 18:30 :)
[17:18] <swaledale> get on the ferry channel and ping the captain :)
[17:19] <PE2BZ> The captain does not read RTTY....
[17:19] <number10> bets for last frame received: rob_m0dts, Upu g6gzh
[17:21] <PE2BZ> fldigi now decodes the name as ¨PLAS¨ which is Dutch for a lot of water ;-)
[17:21] <jcoxon> for once i wrote my number on the payloads
[17:21] <jcoxon> so they might be recovered
[17:21] <PE2BZ> waterproof ink ? Sorry ;-)
[17:22] <RocketBoy> looks like its more or less high tide - so will be going out from landing http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/coast_and_sea/tide_tables/3/171a#tide-details
[17:22] <DL1SGP> turns his fan towards ATLAS
[17:22] <DL1SGP> it might help, still a very hilarious great big fun flight!
[17:22] <Upu> Rob
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[17:23] <number10> thats where my money was Upu
[17:23] <Upu> or possibly nlincs
[17:23] <PE2BZ> nlincs_ right in time ;-)
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[17:23] <swaledale> nlincs might get line of sight at low level down the estuary if high enough?
[17:24] <DL1SGP> PE2BZ: maybe nlincs_ owns a boat :D
[17:24] <number10> must have heard there was a bet on
[17:26] <G0MJW_> Getting errors now
[17:26] <swaledale> my moneys still on that ferry
[17:27] <swaledale> nlincs how elevated are you?
[17:29] <PE2BZ> DL1SGP perhaps nlincs owns the ferry from Hull to Zeebrugge and swaledale knows that....
[17:29] <DL1SGP> heh could be PE2BZ could be... but nlincs should better tune in the HAB now :)
[17:30] <RocketBoy> ooo - tracking west
[17:30] <RocketBoy> spurn head he we come
[17:31] <PE2BZ> Now Atlas, behave and don´t get bad HAB its
[17:32] <PE2BZ> I would call this a bit exciting....
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[17:33] <DL1SGP> I agree especially with the node on the ferry :P
[17:34] <PE2BZ> LOL
[17:34] <JDat> wow! nlincs is 3 KM away from ATLAS :D
[17:34] <Upu> if you believe the position
[17:34] <Upu> they appear to be on a boat
[17:34] <PE2BZ> The Ferry to Zeebrugge is delayed because it had to pick up one package...
[17:35] <DL1SGP> the ferry to zeebrugge stranded because it had eyes on a parachute only
[17:35] <Oddstr13> it's aiming for Spurn point it seems :P
[17:35] <PE2BZ> That would be something special ...
[17:35] <junderwood> I wasn't far wrong when I suggested Spurn Point :)
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[17:36] <PE2BZ> But if the Ferry takes it to Rotterdam I will pick it up ;-)
[17:36] <swaledale> wth - nlincs is on the ferry? perhaps hes the captain
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[17:37] <DL1SGP> swaledale I assume it was just a fast estimation of coords when bringing up an additional fldigi instace
[17:37] <PE2BZ> swaledale because of your bet I thought you knew allready that he owned the ferry
[17:37] <swaledale> or he's playing along and changed his coords in dl-fldigi
[17:38] <PE2BZ> He wouldn´t be fooling us, would he ?
[17:38] <swaledale> someone else could be lol
[17:38] <nlincs_> not me i havent moved
[17:39] <swaledale> either way, looks like its a wet one
[17:39] <AndyEsser> nlincs_: still having a swim in th estuary?
[17:39] <nlincs_> thats not me
[17:39] <swaledale> got a strong signal nlincs_ ?
[17:40] <PE2BZ> swaledale at least I keep my 5 Euro :-)
[17:40] <G0MJW_> I just lost if from the waterfall
[17:40] <swaledale> whats the payload made from?
[17:40] <AndyEsser> it says nlincs :P
[17:41] <Upu> don't think M0DTS is Rxing atm
[17:42] <jcoxon> swaledale, polystyrene with ducttape
[17:42] <jcoxon> it would float but not well
[17:42] <swaledale> yeah, was wondering about water ingress
[17:42] <jcoxon> they have been recovered before
[17:42] <jcoxon> Upu, the whole flight has been a bit like the old days
[17:42] <swaledale> yeah, hope your number holds out
[17:43] <Upu> I know
[17:43] <Upu> been fun
[17:43] <Upu> nice float
[17:43] <x-f> JDat, apparently IRBE has already launched, it's on 434.324
[17:43] <Upu> gives people time to mess with equipment
[17:43] <jcoxon> shall do it again
[17:43] <jcoxon> yes exactly
[17:43] <DL1SGP> it shall float again
[17:43] <DL1SGP> yes
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[17:43] <DL1SGP> at least for a bit :)
[17:43] <Upu> oh yeah code switched to pedestrian mode
[17:43] <swaledale> hmm, just remembered, i have a friend who's RNLI Cleethorpes
[17:43] <AndyEsser> jcoxon: what balloon + neck lift did you have?
[17:44] <Upu> 500m
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[17:45] <Upu> fading
[17:45] <AndyEsser> Upu: how on earth are you still getting it?!
[17:46] <Upu> splash
[17:46] <JDat> tnx! x-f> Guys are trying to receive. I'm in city, so no receiving from me. :(
[17:46] <nlincs_> gone
[17:46] <Upu> saw the cut off as it splashed down
[17:46] <Upu> AndyEsser: 320m asl :)
[17:46] <nlincs_> $$$$$ATLAS,3197,17:45:43,53.57525,0.15165,93,9,08*4FA
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[17:46] <AndyEsser> Upu: ah
[17:46] <AndyEsser> Upu: I am jealous of your large erection
[17:47] <Upu> why thank you
[17:47] <x-f> JDat, signal is very strong, just try it, also - no GPS updates :(
[17:47] <JDat> nlincs_ How war are you? Almost there?
[17:47] <JDat> x-f! OK. All try with portable 4-el yagi.
[17:47] <nlincs_> be about 20 miles away
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[17:48] <junderwood> Less than 1km from land. That's unlucky
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[17:48] <Upu> yup
[17:49] <nlincs_> and it missed the ferry
[17:49] <Oddstr13> so, ballon sea boy combo next? :P
[17:50] <junderwood> One hour until high tide so no chance of it ending up in Hull
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[17:54] <swaledale> jolly good fun this floating lark. need to learn about getting it right, would like to try some time
[17:55] <AndyEsser> yea, I want to do floaters
[17:55] <Oddstr13> if only it floated at 10km :P
[17:55] <mfa298> for latex balloons it's usually just a case of having a low ascent rate and lots of luck
[17:55] <AndyEsser> it's the luck bit I don't like
[17:55] <AndyEsser> I want 38km floaters like todays, but without the burst
[17:56] <mfa298> latex tends to only float until the next sunrise as well
[17:56] <AndyEsser> is there anyway to 'guarantee' a float?
[17:56] <swaledale> yeah im
[17:56] <AndyEsser> (ie better ballons etc)
[17:56] <swaledale> yeah im with andyesser on that
[17:56] <RocketBoy> ron got one from california to the med
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[17:57] <AndyEsser> the PS's tend to do well
[17:57] <swaledale> like upu said, gives everyone time to adjust radios etc and try out methods
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[17:57] <mfa298> most of the recent floaters have been smaller balloons with very light payload, with the trick seeming to be getting just above the weather
[17:58] <AndyEsser> https://twitter.com/idomdavis/status/734401224980729856
[17:58] <AndyEsser> anyone able to identify what those are? And if they know who it might be? (In Norwich)
[18:00] <swaledale> ah so small balloon is fine too
[18:00] <mfa298> cnsp did an interesting one a few years back with a netted ballast balloon (I'm guessing that might be the one RocketBoy was thinking of as well)
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[18:01] <mfa298> swaledale: lots of stuff on http://leobodnar.com/balloons/
[18:01] <AndyEsser> interesting read his website if you have a spare couple hours
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[18:02] <mfa298> in particular http://leobodnar.com/balloons/B-64/index.html has pictures of balloon (homemade) and payload (11g)
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[18:03] <mfa298> 134 days of being tracked (I think longer than Google Loon had managed at the time)
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[18:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL5APR_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL5APR_chase
[18:03] <AndyEsser> it's definitely interesting reading through in order as he goes from 'beginner' to arguably a master ;)
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[18:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM6CWI-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM6CWI-11
[18:11] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> AndyEsser, That beam looks like a 3 ele 420/15/10m beam, guessing that each section of the tower is 10m and the overall width is about 10m
[18:11] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> s/420/20
[18:13] <AndyEsser> cheers
[18:13] <AndyEsser> would've helpful if that person had tracked the balloon from Cromer ;)
[18:14] <Laurenceb_> maybe it will wash ashore
[18:15] <Laurenceb_> only 1km from the spit
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[18:48] <AndyEsser> hmm, guess I should take down my antenna now
[18:55] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> x-f: I can here the balloon :) !
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[19:00] <x-f> SA6BSS-Mike|2, great, there's another one on 434.322.4, try that one too
[19:01] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> thats the one I hear 4
[19:01] <x-f> 25km altitude for the first one, finally got GPS fix..
[19:01] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> whart other freq?
[19:01] <x-f> 434.324.5
[19:02] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> its the .324 one I hear
[19:04] <x-f> second one is around 18 km altitude (i'm guessing here), you might have to wait a bit for it
[19:06] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> ok
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[19:06] <x-f> it transmitted a few PUBX sentences, that's how i know its altitude, otherwise the data seems just like garbage with a valid checksum :|
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[19:08] <fsphil> what's up?
[19:08] <AndyEsser> not ATLAS
[19:09] <fsphil> it's floating again
[19:09] <AndyEsser> not on air ;)
[19:10] <LunarMobile> Hi
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[19:13] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> x-f: it must have burst , gone from the waterfall
[19:15] <x-f> SA6BSS-Mike|2, thanks, i'll pass that info, it is now transmitting the same packet over and over :|
[19:15] <JDat> x-f! what about second balloon?
[19:16] <x-f> without changes - $$IRBE1LB2,22,16:01:2094,22.0915,,138018816,271.0,121,*4A75
[19:16] <x-f> idk what that is
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[19:18] <JDat> 22.0915 looks like LON
[19:20] <JDat> could be 57.16 something in LAT
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[19:20] <x-f> it doesn't change anyway - z$$IRBE1LB2,22,19:41:2094,22.0881,GA,0,0,0,0*5A,138018816,259.0,121,*40EA
[19:21] <x-f> wait, it does
[19:21] <JDat> 259 looks like milibars
[19:23] <x-f> UBX,40,VTG,0,0,0,0*5E
[19:23] <JDat> software bug:
[19:23] <x-f> it starts to transmit a packet, then a few UBX sentences, then continues the packet
[19:23] <RocketBoy> weird - I just launched a pico balloon (X0) a few mins ago - exactly same tracker as last flight - the gps is being weird - mis-reporting height
[19:23] <JDat> seems like UBlox programming message
[19:24] <x-f> yes, to turn off VTG, GSA, RMC sentences
[19:24] <x-f> it starts to transmit a packet, then a few UBX sentences, then continues the packet, that code has some minor issues..
[19:25] <JDat> show all what you get in few last pagages
[19:26] <JDat> packets*
[19:26] <x-f> http://pastebin.com/UQBPSW7H
[19:26] <AndyEsser> I presume there's a method for powering things like LNA's via the feeder Coax (a la Phantom Power microphones)
[19:27] <AndyEsser> ?
[19:27] <JDat> AndyEsser! Yes, its possible
[19:27] <AndyEsser> cool
[19:28] <jcoxon> RocketBoy, thats weird
[19:28] <JDat> AndyEsser: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_tee
[19:28] <AndyEsser> so I guess I should place some sort of water proof housing near my antenna mounting then?
[19:28] <AndyEsser> ta
[19:28] <RocketBoy> may be stuck in an inversion or similar - or weighed down with rain
[19:29] <RocketBoy> 434.402Mhz - currently at 250m (it says)
[19:29] <jcoxon> weather has been weird
[19:29] <jcoxon> we've seen it before
[19:30] <AndyEsser> JDat: o derp... exactly what an active antenna does...
[19:31] <jcoxon> it'll break through
[19:31] <jcoxon> RocketBoy, i see you got AB4 working
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[19:33] <irbe1> stupid question - is it possible to modify parser during flight?
[19:33] <JDat> irbe1 !
[19:33] <JDat> http://pastebin.com/UQBPSW7H
[19:33] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> signal comming throuh again, ...
[19:33] <jcoxon> irbe1, it can be hotfixed
[19:33] <jcoxon> you'd need to ask on #habhun
[19:33] <AndyEsser> haha
[19:33] <AndyEsser> HAB hun
[19:34] <x-f> SA6BSS-Mike|2, second one is at 22 km altitude, might be that
[19:34] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> yes, probably
[19:35] <irbe1> wee need to deal with 'g' at end of two numbers: $$IRBE1LB1,196,22:07:01,57.0691,21.9615,26423,088.7g,6361088.7g,7,n *B125
[19:35] <RocketBoy> jcoxon: yeah sinch
[19:35] <jcoxon> habhub!
[19:35] <jcoxon> RocketBoy, eek
[19:36] <jcoxon> i think its wet
[19:36] <RocketBoy> me too
[19:37] <RocketBoy> the gps was playing up on launch
[19:38] <RocketBoy> its gone quiet - looks like iit may have been forced to the ground
[19:38] <mattbrejza> not yet, been doing LCD stuff
[19:38] <mattbrejza> oops wrong window
[19:38] <AndyEsser> hmm, £140 for a 100m reel of rg213
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[19:41] <irbe1> thanks JDat. it seems that lb1 coordinates freezed again....
[19:43] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> x-f: must have burst, never got verry strong before it dissapeard
[19:43] <x-f> irbe1, ^^
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[19:49] <AndyEsser> good lord... preamps aren't cheap, are they?
[19:49] <amell> I seem to have had an incident with my raspberry pi
[19:49] <amell> it is wtf, just wtf..
[19:50] <amell> SD card caught fire?!?
[19:50] <AndyEsser> what?
[19:50] <AndyEsser> ...
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[19:51] <amell> just uploading a pic
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[19:53] <amell> http://i.imgur.com/XHgMGDo.jpg
[19:53] <mfa298> I think there's been a couple of other people commenting about sd cards catching on fire on the pi forums
[19:53] <amell> im pretty pissed as it had all my lora gw customisations on it
[19:53] <amell> which pi forum is that?
[19:53] <fsphil> !!
[19:53] <x-f> was it a hotfix?
[19:54] <mfa298> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/
[19:54] <AndyEsser> hahaha
[19:54] <mfa298> where else would you expect to find pi forums
[19:54] <AndyEsser> touche x-f
[19:54] <fsphil> did the kernel panic?
[19:54] <amell> rpi is dead, no lights
[19:54] <amell> i went to login to it, cos of steves flight email
[19:55] <amell> and got no response, so went to the cupboard and there was smoke coming from the SD card
[19:55] <mfa298> I think the others who've commented on sd card self immolation have said the Pi was fine with a new SD card.
[19:55] <amell> sandisk?!?
[19:55] <amell> note the crack right down it.
[19:56] <amell> it seems to have cracked opeb
[19:56] <AndyEsser> LiPo SD Card :)
[19:57] <fsphil> I've usually got a few of these things running. bit of a worry
[19:57] <AndyEsser> X-Quad Antennas, any good for Satellite/Circular Polarity stuff?
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[20:00] <craag> AndyEsser: We used an X-quad for the ariss contacts, it was very good for the size
[20:00] <AndyEsser> hmm, £170 for a 144MHz one
[20:00] <AndyEsser> might just build my own QFG and see how it goes
[20:01] <AndyEsser> QFH*
[20:01] <craag> Yeah try that first
[20:01] <craag> you don't need to point it either
[20:01] <AndyEsser> the quads are directional I guess
[20:01] <mfa298> this can become an expensive hobby, Although antennas can be fun to build (and a lot cheaper)
[20:02] <AndyEsser> mfa298: true - problem is I'm a perfectionist - so I'd have to precision engineer something
[20:02] <craag> They are yagis AndyEsser
[20:02] <AndyEsser> :P
[20:02] <AndyEsser> craag: gotcha
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[20:02] <AndyEsser> I'll try and see how I get on with a 144MHz QFH and see if I can find NOAA transmissions
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[20:03] <dbrooke> RocketBoy: nothing heard here (G6GZH)
[20:06] <amell> well ive posted to the pi forums about my sd card
[20:06] <amell> im so pissed about it.
[20:06] <amell> sd card reader shouldnt get that much current&
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[20:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD9BRB-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD9BRB-11
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[20:12] <amell> rocketboy: I was trying to look for your balloon, but was thwarted by SD card fire.
[20:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP9UOB-10 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-10
[20:14] <amell> Aha. turns out I ordered this from the Pi hut. I will email them.
[20:17] <SM0ULC-Reb> atlas got recovered?
[20:18] <jcoxon> SM0ULC-Reb, if you mean by the sea gods then yes
[20:18] <SM0ULC-Reb> jcoxon: ah
[20:18] <jcoxon> :-)
[20:19] <SM0ULC-Reb> and X0 seem to have made some kind of landfall at least? :)
[20:19] <AndyEsser> The Offering To Poseidon was deemed worthy
[20:20] <SM0ULC-Reb> and possibilities to track the gods of sea yes.. ;)
[20:22] <fsphil> unintentional buoy
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[20:27] <RocketBoy> rain has stopped - looks like its taken off again - but gps altitude is still playing up
[20:28] <amell> This balloon appears to be bouncing off the ground.
[20:30] <fsphil> or through the ground. it it -596m
[20:30] <fsphil> it hit*
[20:30] <amell> not any more. it appears to be ascending at a high rate of knots
[20:30] <jcoxon> zoom
[20:31] <fsphil> thunderstorm nearby
[20:31] <fsphil> nearby-ish
[20:31] <fsphil> king's lynn
[20:31] <SM0ULC-Reb> amazing with these balloons :)
[20:32] <fsphil> going down again
[20:33] <fsphil> quickly
[20:35] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> and up :)
[20:35] <fsphil> arg
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[20:36] <jcoxon> go X0
[20:36] <jcoxon> you can break the clouds!
[20:36] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> u can do it!!
[20:36] <fsphil> X0 needs a theme tune. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlv672jqbtE
[20:40] <fsphil> some lightning nearer it
[20:48] <AndyEsser> one of the tech groups here apparently just got involved in SatNOGS
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[20:50] <SM0ULC-Reb> "here" ?
[20:50] <AndyEsser> Chester
[20:50] <AndyEsser> (specifically the North Wales Tech Group)
[20:50] <AndyEsser> apparently have some folk who do HAM and Rockets
[20:50] <AndyEsser> might have to go over sometime
[20:52] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: ah, have checked them out from time to time. still not much software i think
[20:52] <AndyEsser> no - that's why we have ChesterDevs
[20:52] <AndyEsser> all software :)
[20:52] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: some research in cheap phased arrays might also be an option
[20:53] <AndyEsser> ?
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[20:57] <SM0ULC-Reb> AndyEsser: instead of doing rotors
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[20:57] <AndyEsser> SM0ULC-Reb: ah
[20:59] <chrisg7ogx> Where are the frequency details for XABEN-97 please?
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[20:59] <AndyEsser> !dial XABEN-97
[20:59] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[20:59] <number10> 434.404
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[21:00] <amell> Is X0 supposed to be a floater?
[21:01] <number10> i think its a pico floater - if you look at the mailing list
[21:01] <chrisg7ogx> Thanks number10 autoconfigure does not have it and neither does Flight Docs
[21:01] <number10> its 75 n 7 2
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[21:02] <number10> and about 490 shift
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[21:11] <craag> no uploads in 13 minutes?
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[21:15] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> its stil tx ing
[21:15] <RocketBoy> X0 is looking very sad
[21:15] <number10> i guess gp isnt well
[21:15] <RocketBoy> GPS has packed up methinks
[21:15] <number10> s
[21:15] <RocketBoy> yep
[21:16] <RocketBoy> had problems with i last flight - thought it might be power de-coupling
[21:16] <RocketBoy> but put a bigger cap in this time
[21:16] <number10> is it a max8-c
[21:16] <RocketBoy> yep
[21:17] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> or next time a smaller
[21:18] <RocketBoy> sspect its a temperature problem
[21:18] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> and moisture
[21:19] <RocketBoy> it was pretty well sealed
[21:19] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> ok
[21:19] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> whats the bat lifetime on the tracker?
[21:19] <RocketBoy> so *if* it survives until tomorrow it may come back to life
[21:19] <RocketBoy> 2 days
[21:20] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> o
[21:20] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> k
[21:20] Nick change: SA6BSS-Mike|2 -> SA6BSS-Mike
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[21:25] <chrisg7ogx> "uploaded telemetry successfully" but not on the map. Any suggestions please?
[21:25] <AndyEsser> chrisg7ogx: did the telemetry checksum pass ok?
[21:25] <chrisg7ogx> yes
[21:25] <AndyEsser> have you put your location details in?
[21:26] <chrisg7ogx> yes exactly the same format as the help file
[21:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> its tx ing same apckets over and over again so no new tower will show comtact
[21:26] <AndyEsser> chrisg7ogx: which help file?
[21:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> chrisg7ogx: what are you rx:ing?
[21:26] <chrisg7ogx> t'internet
[21:27] <chrisg7ogx> https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:tracking_guide
[21:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> chrisg7ogx: are u listenig on xaben?
[21:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> x0 I mean
[21:27] <chrisg7ogx> yes but far away in pasty land
[21:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> its txing same string over and oveer so it wont dispaly any contactrs
[21:28] <chrisg7ogx> 50.308 4.273
[21:28] <g4wpo> I'm decoding too:- $$X0,884,21:27:56,51.98526,1.31932,5145,0,0,2.87,00*F151
[21:28] <chrisg7ogx> 304 metres
[21:29] <g4wpo> The location isn't changing, but the timestamps are
[21:29] <SA6BSS-Mike> yae, gps mailfunction
[21:29] <AndyEsser> chrisg7ogx: can you show us the Configure -> Operator screen dl-fldigi?
[21:29] <RocketBoy> yeah - there is a problem with the gps
[21:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> tarcker page wony dispaly any new contacts untill gps kicks in
[21:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
[21:32] <chrisg7ogx> TKS STBY
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[21:33] <SA6BSS-Mike> chrisg7ogx: set your lat long alt in "dl-client" - "location" https://ukhas.org.uk/_detail/guides:location2.jpeg?id=guides%3Atracking_guide
[21:34] <chrisg7ogx> yes that's the guide i followed
[21:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> your on the map
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[21:35] <chrisg7ogx> no thats east of me, gk4bgq
[21:36] <SA6BSS-Mike> I can see GK7OGX on the map, not you?
[21:36] <chrisg7ogx> lol i cannot stby
[21:37] <chrisg7ogx> i cannot see myself!! only one monitor in Cornwall on the map
[21:39] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://imgur.com/wah0e16
[21:40] <AndyEsser> that does not look like Cornwall
[21:40] <AndyEsser> chrisg7ogx: you are apparently in Belgium :P
[21:41] <SA6BSS-Mike> where he said he would be
[21:41] <SA6BSS-Mike> 50.308 4.273
[21:41] <chrisg7ogx> lol scaring me now
[21:41] <SA6BSS-Mike> ah, u should have the minus before the 4 50.308 -4.273
[21:42] <AndyEsser> :P
[21:42] <chrisg7ogx> yes just got there thought it was + as i am positively West of the meridian
[21:42] <AndyEsser> chrisg7ogx: + to the right
[21:42] <AndyEsser> - to the left
[21:43] <AndyEsser> negatively east of the meridian :)
[21:43] <chrisg7ogx> Paracetamol time
[21:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> I?m using theis, http://predict.habhub.org/ got a good lat long upper right corner
[21:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> afc
[21:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> afk even
[21:44] <chrisg7ogx> unable to place any symbol before the 4.273
[21:45] <AndyEsser> chrisg7ogx: is DL Client -> Location?
[21:45] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/ZmAdOAx
[21:46] <chrisg7ogx> yes
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[21:46] <AndyEsser> weird...
[21:47] <chrisg7ogx> accepted now
[21:47] <chrisg7ogx> still v nice in Belguim!
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[21:50] <chrisg7ogx> caught a flight and nearly home thanks everyone for your help much appreciated
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[22:03] <AndyEsser> watching a video about building a QFH
[22:04] <AndyEsser> the guy starts off by ranting that the instructions are in metric...
[22:05] <mfa298> sounds like he shoudl be introduced to sibot
[22:05] <mfa298> possibly by means of a heavy server as a teaching tool
[22:05] <AndyEsser> ha
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[22:07] <mfa298> you might think this is 2 hundred weight, but it's really 100kg.
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[22:11] <AndyEsser> what's the highest a balloon can reasonable reach? (including super pressure nonsense)
[22:13] <mfa298> depends if your mexican or not :p
[22:13] <AndyEsser> err
[22:13] <AndyEsser> I am not
[22:13] <AndyEsser> 2"
[22:13] Action: AndyEsser glares at SIbot
[22:13] <AndyEsser> 2inches
[22:14] <AndyEsser> 2 inches
[22:14] <AndyEsser> 2ft
[22:14] <SIbot> In real units: 2 ft = 0.61 m
[22:14] <mfa298> otherwise http://www.arhab.org/ https://ukhas.org.uk/general:uk_records
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[22:14] <AndyEsser> there we go
[22:14] <mfa298> at least for the amateur stuff
[22:14] <AndyEsser> mfa298: cheers - was looking atht eukhas one - doesn't seem to get updated much
[22:15] <mfa298> I think the top ones are still accurate
[22:16] <AndyEsser> 145590.60 ft
[22:16] <SIbot> In real units: 60 ft = 18 m
[22:16] <AndyEsser> 145590 ft
[22:16] <SIbot> In real units: 145590 ft = 44.4 km
[22:16] Action: AndyEsser is being really lazy
[22:16] <AndyEsser> mfa298: cheers
[22:16] <Vaizki_> and a bit spammy
[22:16] <AndyEsser> Vaizki_: yes - sorry
[22:16] <Vaizki_> but not much ;)
[22:16] <AndyEsser> I'll stop now :)
[22:16] <Vaizki_> don't stop me noooooooow
[22:16] <AndyEsser> cos I'm havin' a good time
[22:17] <mfa298> those were all at the same sort of time, and Hwoyee 1600s of the batch with added woo
[22:18] <AndyEsser> I'd like to reach 35km-40km
[22:18] <AndyEsser> reliably - don't want to keep trying to beat the record just for the sake of it :P
[22:18] <mfa298> Thats worrying, Track on the spotify playlist had the line I'm havin' a good time just as I read the same here.
[22:19] <AndyEsser> spooky
[22:21] <mfa298> well close (on looking up the lyrics): Many ways to have a good time.
[22:25] <fsphil> the queen song was "I'm having such a good time"
[22:26] <fsphil> and in the SIbot bot version, he's called Mr. Celsius
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[22:28] <mfa298> but then he'd only be 93 degrees
[22:30] <fsphil> if he's travelling at the speed of light, can he even have a temperature
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