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[03:48] <natrium42> does the tracker have online predition nowadays?
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[05:54] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> natrium42: you can ask the adimins to ad hysplit to your flight if its a floater, but up downs you have to do yourself
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[06:01] <daveake> No, it's automatic
[06:01] <daveake> Up/down flights automatically get a prediction
[06:02] <daveake> admins do the hysplit bit
[06:04] <alexpimania> what is this?
[06:07] <alexpimania> ?
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[06:08] <alexpimania> Is anyone online here?
[06:12] <edmoore> yes
[06:13] <daveake> no
[06:13] <edmoore> it's 7am on a saturday morning in the UK, where lots of this channel lives, so it's a bit quiet
[06:16] <edmoore> natrium42: !
[06:16] <edmoore> you's is alive
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[06:49] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> ok, u get a auto prediction but O
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[06:50] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> I should not count on it as it fluctuate quite a bit during flight, doing a pre fligt prediction is amust
[06:55] <daveake> Well, pre-flight predictions are an essential anyway, so you can plan the landing area, changing the ascent rate and burst altitude with less/more gas and/or different balloon size if necessary, or cancelling the flight if it can't be made safe. It's true that the live prediction is a bit variable on the way up but that's unimportant, and it gets to be
[06:55] <daveake> pretty accurate once the flight is descending.
[06:57] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> I can agree on that
[06:58] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> other news zl1rs ocean floater is on its way, you will find some info at http://www.qsl.net/zl1rs/oceanfloater.html
[06:59] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> and its txin on call zl1six on wspr
[07:00] <Upu> morning
[07:07] <natrium42> edmoore: haha, just doing a launch in years
[07:07] <natrium42> with delorme tracker
[07:07] <natrium42> starting easy :)
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[07:23] <natrium42> is there a handy script to post to habhub?
[07:23] <natrium42> delorme site exports kml which is quite easy to parse
[07:26] <jcoxon> hey natrium42
[07:27] <jcoxon> long time!
[07:29] <natrium42> heya james
[07:29] <natrium42> flying something today for first time in years
[07:29] <natrium42> with dan bowen
[07:31] <jcoxon> oh wow
[07:31] <jcoxon> awesome
[07:31] <jcoxon> has been a long time
[07:32] <jcoxon> natrium42, jump on to #habhub and ask there
[07:34] <natrium42> kk
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[08:20] <fsphil> crikey, hi natrium42 :)
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[09:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PI868 after 0317 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI868
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[09:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DELORME - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DELORME
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[12:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP5RZP-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5RZP-11
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[14:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N9XTN-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N9XTN-12
[14:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC0MWM-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC0MWM-11
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[14:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC0MWM-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC0MWM-12
[14:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N9XTN-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N9XTN-11
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[14:46] <MaxImp> Hello everyone. Can anyone help me with an dl-fldigi problem I'm having?
[14:48] <PE2BZ> I am not a pro, but a user, but I can give it a try ?
[14:48] <fsphil> not without a description :)
[14:48] <MaxImp> I shall thusly elaborate
[14:49] <MaxImp> Wayul, I'm running daveake's wonderful tracker ;) and receiving the gps co-ords, but in this guide I'm reading, it shows a nice green indicator of a successfully decoded image packet. But I never get anything green.
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[14:50] <fsphil> can you take a screenshot?
[14:50] <MaxImp> Yep, where can I put it?
[14:50] <fsphil> imgur is fine
[14:50] <MaxImp> Okay, one sec
[14:50] <MaxImp> thanks
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[14:54] <MaxImp> http://imgur.com/pYLZlwS
[14:54] <MaxImp> (This one hasn't got a lock at the moment, but it was getting actual gps co-ords a minute ago)
[14:54] <fsphil> you are not running it in the HAB mode
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[14:54] <MaxImp> I didn't get a hab mode when I downloaded it
[14:54] <MaxImp> I was thinking that might be the problem
[14:54] <fsphil> there should be two icons in the start menu
[14:55] <MaxImp> There aren't any, just one exe in the directory
[14:55] <fsphil> the little green SQL in the bottom right, switch that off too
[14:55] <MaxImp> ok
[14:55] <daveake> Also, you will get garbage during the images, as those are binary data
[14:55] <fsphil> yeah one exe, but passing it the --hab argument will switch it. there should be an icon for it though
[14:55] <fsphil> signal looks good though
[14:55] <MaxImp> I'll just reinstall it and ask for a start menu icon this time
[14:56] <MaxImp> brb
[14:56] <daveake> If you right-click in the area where you saw the telemetry, and choose "clear", it will, well, clear
[14:56] <MaxImp> Ahh! thanks, I was looking for a way to do that
[14:56] <fsphil> or explode. not sure if we ever got that bug fixed
[14:56] <fsphil> (joke :)
[14:59] <MaxImp> Ahh, excellent! Thank you very much. Lots of lovely green now.
[15:00] <fsphil> if you click on View > SSDV RX you should see the image data too
[15:00] <MaxImp> Where are the images stored
[15:00] <MaxImp> ?
[15:00] <fsphil> it also gets uploaded to http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[15:00] <fsphil> so remember to switch to offline mode if you dont' want images posted publically
[15:01] <fsphil> they're not saved by default, in the dl-client config there is an option to set a directory to save the jpegs to
[15:01] <fsphil> yeah, DL Client > Configure > DL Client > enable Save Images and set t he Location to the directory you want to use
[15:02] <MaxImp> Thanks, was just doing that :P
[15:03] <MaxImp> SDR# and dl-fldigi are fantastically clever...
[15:04] <MaxImp> As is your PITS, daveake, thanks very much for making it :)
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[15:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB after 0313 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB
[15:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KC9PON-11 after 033 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC9PON-11
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[15:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC0MWM-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC0MWM-12
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[16:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KA7NSR-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KA7NSR-7
[16:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KA7NSR-6 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KA7NSR-6
[16:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD4STH-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD4STH-7
[16:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD4STH-9 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD4STH-9
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[16:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD4STH-8 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD4STH-8
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[17:52] <arjunnaha> Does the payload antenna radials have to be in a straight x formation of can they can quite a narrow X
[17:54] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> There trying to be an inifinte conducting plane "below" the 1/4 wave aerial so as to act as a mirror.
[17:55] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> it will increase flutter as the payload spins if they are not even.
[17:55] <arjunnaha> So need to be spread out
[17:55] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> but no need to be precise.
[17:56] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> 10-15° no problem more than 30° might get siginifcant
[18:05] <mfa298> if it helps you might get away with three radials, but you'd want them fairly evenly spaced, or you can always add in more to try and get a more even groundplane
[18:06] <arjunnaha> Ah great, thanks
[18:07] <mfa298> 4 is the tried and tested though. I think someone modeled three radials and it was ok still, but I'm not sure it's been flown.
[18:08] <arjunnaha> I've been a little silly and planned the payload box with the antenna not really in mind, if it was evenly spaced, one of the radials blocks a camera so 1 radial is slight slanted
[18:09] <mfa298> you might get away with just bendign that radial around the camera, possibly cutting it a bit short, or maybe replace with two radials positioned to miss the camera more
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[18:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8ELK-1 after 0313 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
[18:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-1 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
[19:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[20:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03cn8dn_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=cn8dn_chase
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[20:40] <cn8dn> hello
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[21:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DELORME - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DELORME
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[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PI868 after 0314 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI868
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[23:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PI434 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI434
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