highaltitude.log.20160506

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[00:18] <pb0ahx__> !flights
[00:18] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx__: Current flights: 03PICO-24 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(d447), 03LeMi2 10(ab72), 03UBSEDS15 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(d812)
[00:19] <pb0ahx__> !dial ALMA-2
[00:19] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx__: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
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[00:49] <DL7AD> .hysplit DL4MDW-12
[00:49] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: No HYSPLIT for that callsign
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[00:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CHANGEME - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHANGEME
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[04:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W7QO-7 after 0312 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W7QO-7
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[05:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W7QO-9 after 0311 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W7QO-9
[05:13] <lz1dev> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0bMeDj76ig
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[05:42] <x-f> thanks, lz1dev
[05:43] <lz1dev> amazing landing
[05:44] <x-f> yup, this time from 2 km/s instead of the usual 1 km/s
[05:45] <lz1dev> cant wait for the far away shot
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[07:17] <SM0ULC-Reb> morning all
[07:21] <arjunnaha> Anyone here use South West Trains?
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[08:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EA3RKE-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EA3RKE-1
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[11:36] <cm13g09> any leaflet.js gurus around?
[11:37] <cm13g09> I know you guys use it for various things
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[11:37] <cm13g09> craag: ?
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[11:46] <craag> I've used it a bit yes
[11:46] <craag> cm13g09:
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[11:47] <cm13g09> ever tried dynamically adding leaflet to a page?
[11:47] <Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDoh8zQDT38
[11:48] <craag> yes
[11:48] <craag> I think so - should work fine
[11:48] <smnbldwn> Hello! Newbie here, thinking of launching a high altitude ballon for school science day. Anyone in Cambridge interested in helping/advising?
[11:48] <cm13g09> have you tried doing it in a bootbox?
[11:48] <cm13g09> 'cos that's what I'm having a go at....
[11:49] <cm13g09> if it doesn't work, we'll go for Lightbox/Fancybox but hey
[11:49] <cm13g09> I end up with it not rendering tiles
[11:49] <cm13g09> anyway
[11:49] <craag> nope not that hipster
[11:49] <cm13g09> gotta dash
[11:49] <craag> but that sounds like you need to call invalidateSize() on it
[11:49] <craag> which re-triggers the resize
[11:51] <daveake> smnbldwn: What research have you done so far?
[11:56] <smnbldwn> I know roughly what I need and that I need to file a flight plan. I have been to a Camjam lecture on it about using a RPi for data capture and tracking. Right now I need advice on what I really need to buy and whether the time frame is feasible for launch on 4th July.
[11:58] <daveake> You could do worse than have a read of http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=1732
[11:59] <daveake> That'll explain about the methods of tracking (and why we all do radio tracking here as we prefer to get our payloads back)
[12:00] <fsphil> most of us
[12:00] <daveake> and will give you an overview of all the bits and pieces you need to know about
[12:00] <daveake> *here*
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[12:01] <daveake> The choice then is whether you can build/code your own radio tracker in that time, or you need an off-the-shelf tracker
[12:01] <fsphil> he's timed out
[12:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD9DBI-11 after 0316 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD9DBI-11
[12:01] <daveake> Former is by far the best in terms of learning and achievement, but I suspect that given the timescale it probably isn't an option
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[12:02] <smnbldwn> Thank you for that advice, I will try and work out if it can be ready for July.
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[12:03] <fsphil> if you do plan, definitly tryto get your CAA request in really early in June
[12:04] <daveake> As it's Cambridge there might be other options
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[12:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NOTAFLIGHT after 0311 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NOTAFLIGHT
[12:08] <smnbldwn> Daveake, how much do you think I need to budget for a launch? These things matter in schools and all really depends on if I get it cleared.
[12:11] <daveake> £500 as a round figure
[12:15] <smnbldwn> Thank you so much, that will get me started. If anyone has any more tips please tweet to @baldwin_CIS.
[12:15] <smnbldwn> What are the other options by the way, I got chucked off in the middle of the conversation.
[12:20] <dbrooke> smnbldwn: you can check the channel log at http://habhub.org/zeusbot/logs/highaltitude.log.20160506 for anything you missed
[12:29] <smnbldwn> Thank you
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[12:44] <edmoore> if you are just buying stuff then the time frame is more than feasibly for 4th july
[12:44] <edmoore> there's about 2 hrs of work today to buy everything and send off for permission
[12:44] <edmoore> of work to do*
[12:45] <edmoore> if you want to build your own tracker (recommended for almost all purposes except extreme time pressure imposed by a hard deadline like planning for a school lesson) then obviously it'll take a bit longer, as a function of your experience
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[13:01] <smnbldwn> Thanks for that. just need to sell it to the boss now!
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[13:28] <DL7AD> .hysplit DL4MDW-12
[13:28] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: No HYSPLIT for that callsign
[13:28] <DL7AD> could someone generate a hysplit?
[13:31] <DL7AD> ping lz1dev
[13:36] <lz1dev> .hysplit add DL4MDW-12
[13:36] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Added 03DL4MDW-12 to defaults
[13:37] <lz1dev> .hysplit run DL4MDW-12
[13:37] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Your job has been added to the queue. Check in a few minutes
[13:42] <DL7AD> lz1dev: thanks :)
[13:43] <DL7AD> .hysplit DL4MDW-12
[13:43] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: HYSPLIT for 03DL4MDW-12 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/160506-13_138836_DL4MDW12.gif
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[14:25] <smnbldwn> How do I ask the CAA to authorise a balloon flight?
[14:28] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=K2-yUQS70Kc#t=24
[14:28] <SpeedEvil> (not really)
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[14:28] <SpeedEvil> https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:faq
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[14:34] <daveake> smnbldwn: That document I linked to earlier does link to that guide :)
[14:35] <arjunnaha> What is HYSPLIT in terms of HAB?
[14:36] <SpeedEvil> arjunnaha: It determines likely future paths of balloons
[14:37] <smnbldwn> Thank you, yes its all in your guide! I'll read it properly before asking anything else.
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[14:48] <edmoore> wow
[14:48] <edmoore> he must be some new breed of noob
[14:48] <edmoore> a factory upgrade or something
[14:48] <AndyEsser> researching before asking?
[14:49] <edmoore> well, saying that he will
[14:49] <edmoore> not quite as good, but still good
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[16:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03FANHAB1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=FANHAB1
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[16:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7KTB-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7KTB-11
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[17:52] <rjsnyder> the w7qo-9 i see on aprs.fi and wsprnet.org, is this the w7qo-9 balloon which disappered shortly before reaching europe, or is this a new one?
[17:54] <lz1dev> .track w7qo-9
[17:54] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=w7qo-9
[18:01] <rjsnyder> is it normal that a ballon nearly doesnt move for 4 days there in front of spain?
[18:07] <SM0ULC-Reb> rjsnyder: the same
[18:07] <SM0ULC-Reb> now over Åland
[18:09] <rjsnyder> no wind there in 12000 meters
[18:09] <SM0ULC-Reb> very slow yes
[18:10] Nick change: rjsnyder -> db1jj
[18:10] <SM0ULC-Reb> got 0 dB on wspr from it today
[18:10] <db1jj> received him last on 30.4 on 20m
[18:10] <db1jj> i try it tomorow
[18:11] <db1jj> then i looked some days as if he is dead
[18:12] <db1jj> it
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[18:20] <SM0ULC-Reb> mm, it was gone for a bit
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[18:28] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> db1jj: this is what he thinks happens whn w7qo wa gone for a day I've now determined what happened on this past Sunday. Seems even
[18:28] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> though I have a hardware watchdog timer that should reset the board in
[18:28] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> the cases where it ends up in an infinite loop. There is one place I
[18:28] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> missed. As the board boots up in the morning when the sun is up, it
[18:28] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> goes through a set of peripheral initialization routines. One of them
[18:28] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> talks to the second radio. That radio requires it's XO to be on or
[18:28] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> functional and if it isn't, the part will stay in a busy loop until that
[18:28] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> occurs. If the TCXO didn't start up on sunday morning due to the cold
[18:28] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> soak at -65C, that part would have waited for is XO. *AND* the hardware
[18:28] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> watchdog wouldn't have caught that because it's not enabled until
[18:28] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> *after* that initialization.
[18:28] <SA6BSS-Mike|2>
[18:28] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> It was an easy 2 line move in the code to fix that.
[18:28] <SA6BSS-Mike|2>
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[18:35] <db1jj> ah ok,
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[18:45] <richardeoin> nice, YM7TRB is repating ubseds on 2 meters from over 500km away
[18:45] <richardeoin> pretty good going
[18:49] <SM0ULC-Reb> impressive
[18:50] <SM0ULC-Reb> going very slow over ukraine
[18:51] <richardeoin> this is the third day over the black sea
[18:51] <richardeoin> so yep, pretty slow
[18:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KK4HMH-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK4HMH-11
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[19:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SKIPI after 036 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SKIPI
[19:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WA2MJM-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WA2MJM-1
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[19:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL0CRE-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL0CRE-11
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[19:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL5APR_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL5APR_chase
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[21:27] <DL7AD> ping craag
[21:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE7APF-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE7APF-11
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[22:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03X0 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=X0
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[22:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VA2RMG-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VA2RMG-11
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[23:46] <Laurenceb_> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-ST-Link-V2-Stlink-Emulator-Downloader-Programming-STM8-STM32-w-Metal-Shell-/381237466793?hash=item58c38616a9:g:GwYAAOSwstxVOgsj
[23:53] <Ian__> Looks neat Laurenceb shame I'm not ST conversant :)
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