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[05:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7IXX-15 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7IXX-15
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[07:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK3TBC-11_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK3TBC-11_chase
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[07:38] <Vaizki> morning! and a bit of "high altitude" to start the day.. https://i.imgur.com/UaXGC6b.gifv
[07:40] <Upu> that looks like Justin Bieber so I fully approve this activity
[07:41] <Vaizki> too bad he seems to be in full control of the thing
[07:43] <x-f> he's got lots of faith in technology
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[08:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CHASE_C3PO_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHASE_C3PO_chase
[08:44] <daveake> Not the fastest ... ^
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[09:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Deon_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Deon_chase
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[09:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BENNY_1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BENNY_1
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[09:38] <pb0ahx> !flights
[09:38] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03BENNY_1 10(dc00)
[09:38] <pb0ahx> !dial dc00
[09:38] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Latest dials for 03BENNY_1 10(dc00): none
[09:40] <pb0ahx> GM all
[09:40] <Darkside> pb0ahx: before you ask, its probably someone testing a payload
[09:41] <pb0ahx> Darkside, hihihihi tnx info i can not found anny document so i think it is a test flifgt
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[09:49] <Geoff-G8DHE_> No BENNY is due to fly today says 434.25MHz
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[09:59] <fsphil> an actual real flight
[10:00] <fsphil> goodness
[10:00] <PB0AHX-Herman> hihihihihihi
[10:00] <mfa298> PB0AHX-Herman: if you watch https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ukhas you'll usually see what's flying, when and what frequency and often before there's a flight doc (so before it appears in !flights)
[10:01] <PB0AHX-Herman> mfa298, yes i see that this morning
[10:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03hdhdhsjs_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=hdhdhsjs_chase
[10:08] <R34lB0rg> fun fact: on mars you would need about 84m3 of hydrogen to generate lift for 1kg payload
[10:09] <fsphil> http://ssdv.habhub.org/BENNY -- pics from the launch prep
[10:09] <fsphil> looks as nice there as it is here. clear blue skies
[10:15] <PB0AHX-Herman> Benny-1 Team GL the skies looks ok there
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[10:34] <habby> Morning all!
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[10:47] <Upu> hey habby
[10:48] <Upu> sorry I missed your call last week was in the Lakes with no mobile coverage
[10:48] <Darkside> where are 'the lakes' ?
[10:48] <Darkside> i expect there are many lakes in the UK
[10:48] <Upu> https://www.google.co.uk/maps/search/the+lake+district/@54.1808174,-3.4055267,9z/data=!3m1!4b1
[10:49] <Darkside> lol
[10:49] <Darkside> ok
[10:49] <Darkside> an actual lake district
[10:49] <Darkside> hah there is a place called snowdonia
[10:49] <Upu> well at least it doesn't look like the surface of Mars
[10:49] <Darkside> pff
[10:49] <Darkside> we have green bits
[10:49] <Upu> yes I've climbed it, very nice
[10:49] <Darkside> some
[10:50] <Darkside> there are areas of tasmania that are just like scottish highlands
[10:50] <Upu> anyone can paint rocks
[10:50] <Darkside> pff
[10:50] <Upu> yeah my old boss when there he said it was nice
[10:50] <Darkside> come for a visit!
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[10:51] <habby> hey Upu! No worries. I've forgotten what I was going to ask you about now!
[10:51] <Upu> will do at some point
[10:51] <Upu> possibly about the launch today ?
[10:51] <Upu> they are going for M62 landing
[10:51] <Upu> nice
[10:51] <Darkside> also your use of numbers for roads is weird
[10:52] <Darkside> i guess you have too many roads to be able to remember the names of the important ones
[10:52] <Upu> not complex
[10:52] <habby> I've seen that! If they get it right, they could land on my classroom roof. I've offered a beer if they pull that off ;)
[10:52] <Upu> north to south M1/A1
[10:52] <Darkside> we have an A1
[10:52] <Upu> yeah I'm ready to recieve
[10:52] <Darkside> which goes right around th ecountry
[10:52] <habby> Been a bit quiet from tehm for a while though. I guess they are arranging all the kids and walking them up there!
[10:52] <Upu> nice
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[10:52] <habby> Darkside = kiwi?
[10:53] <Darkside> habby: Australian
[10:53] <Upu> no worse
[10:53] <Darkside> pff
[10:53] <Upu> lol
[10:53] <Upu> btw still got your icom connectors here
[10:53] <Darkside> yes i know
[10:53] <Upu> just reminding you
[10:53] <Darkside> i'm in the middle of moving house at th emoment
[10:53] <Upu> rgr
[10:53] <Darkside> then i'll figure out what i need to buy
[10:53] <Darkside> a few lora shields at the lease
[10:53] <Darkside> least*
[10:54] <habby> So, we launch again in two weeks. We are going for height this time! Best balloon for that?
[10:54] <Upu> Hwoyee 1600 from Steve
[10:54] <habby> Do you think he wil take the 800g I bought in p/x !
[10:54] <Upu> strip every last gram
[10:54] <Upu> no idea you'd have to ask him
[10:55] <habby> Will do. Thanks :)
[10:55] <habby> The predictors all show only up to 40Km
[10:56] <habby> Is there a way of seeing beyond that?
[10:56] <daveake> less weight less helium more h2
[10:56] <Upu> oh yes use H2
[10:57] <habby> Happier to do that this time, now we've had a go through.
[11:02] <habby> Do click4balloons do h2? If not, who would you suggest I use?
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[11:02] <daveake> no they don't
[11:02] <Darkside> also H2 is a bit more dangerous than helium
[11:03] <Darkside> more precautions required..
[11:03] <Darkside> not big ones, but you would need to be mindful
[11:03] <daveake> You also need to buy a regulator
[11:04] <habby> What sort of precautions, Darkside? (apart from no fires)
[11:04] <Darkside> ask daveake
[11:05] <Darkside> i've only done one H2 launch, and it was with him
[11:05] <Darkside> all of our aussie launces have been helium, becuase its cheaper than hydrogen over here (go figure)
[11:05] <daveake> https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:hydrogen
[11:05] <habby> https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:hydrogen
[11:06] <habby> Exactly (!) RTFM, Pete ;)
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[11:08] <habby> Wonder if Benny_1 will get off the ground? Th M62 is flowing far too freely at the moment!
[11:17] <R34lB0rg> cheapest hydrogen supply is probably electrolysis / Zn+HCl / Al+Ga+H2O
[11:19] <R34lB0rg> and mostly safe to handle until needed and released
[11:20] <mattbrejza> so how mch Zn+HCl would you need for 3m^2 of H?
[11:20] <mattbrejza> and how much would that cost?
[11:21] <habby> I'd be Mark Watney in that situation... Need a supplier :)
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[11:23] <daveake> Slightly odd notam for this one ... https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/f38jOyGd/captive
[11:24] <mattbrejza> upper: unlimited
[11:24] <mattbrejza> thats a long bit of string
[11:24] <daveake> captive and release
[11:24] <daveake> Wonder if that's the CAA clicking the wrong button
[11:25] <mattbrejza> that way you can reuse the balloon and He ;)
[11:25] <daveake> perfick :)
[11:25] <habby> afk - Food
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[11:28] <fsphil> yes, don't eat near keyboards
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[11:34] <R34lB0rg> 1m3 = 45 mol * 65g / * 36g = 3kg Zn + 2.3kg HCl
[11:35] <R34lB0rg> or 1.2kg Al + 0.81kg H2O
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[12:10] <daveake> ANy news from the BENNYs? No rx for 2 hours, and it's now outside their notam period
[12:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Benny1_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Benny1_chase
[12:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LCARS_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LCARS_chase
[12:21] <G3ZGZ> just phoned the school. Launch off. reson - not got permission. perhaps it was landing too near the M62!! Dave
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[12:34] <habby> Message from Benny_1: "London airport has stopped the flight at last minute with the balloon already filled even though Msn airport gave clearance. Not happy wasted £250"
[12:34] <habby> Ouch
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[12:35] <edmoore> i don't understand why london airport would care about a balloon in wigan
[12:36] <mattbrejza> that notam dave posted has dissappeared, dunno if thats because it expired or was removed
[12:36] <russss> perhaps Obama
[12:36] <edmoore> it was only valid until 12.30
[12:37] <edmoore> today
[12:37] <PB0AHX-Herman> mmmm :-(((
[12:38] <edmoore> you have three mouths?
[12:39] <craag> hihihi
[12:42] <PB0AHX-Herman> yes i have a very big mouth hihi
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[12:59] <daveake> mattbrejza: Yes they disappear after expiry
[13:00] <mattbrejza> ok
[13:00] <mattbrejza> does 'london stopped hte flight' mean they phoned DM for an extension after they went past 1230, and he said no perhaps..?
[13:01] <edmoore> it definitely struck me as being like the guy who launched the microbit
[13:01] <edmoore> saying 'air traffic had to reroute through the flight!!'
[13:02] <edmoore> sort of 3rd hand information + misunderstanding + a desire to sensationalise
[13:02] <russss> it's plausible that london control is getting jumpy already about obama's arrival tomorrow. But may more likely be a misunderstanding.
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[13:03] <russss> there are some interesting notams going on for tomorrow. Apparently kites are banned.
[13:07] <edmoore> http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/aip/BRIEFING_SHEET.pdf
[13:07] <russss> exceedingly informative filename
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[13:09] <habby> edmoore - that guy was me and I don't appreciate your referring to me as someone who had 'a desire to sensationalise'.
[13:10] <edmoore> oh well, I thought you did
[13:10] <edmoore> you'll live with it
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[14:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W1APX-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W1APX-11
[15:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03X0 after 034 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=X0
[15:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Car_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Car_chase
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[16:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KG7IXX-15 after 039 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7IXX-15
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[17:12] <richardeoin> 4111111
[17:13] <richardeoin> ohh
[17:13] <richardeoin> there's a keyboard under that book
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[18:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UON3 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UON3
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[18:35] <Ben___> Was planning to launch a high altitude balloon to take some cool photos of the curvature of the planet. I am a complete beginner at this and was planning to send up 2 Raspberry pis (1 with sensors and one with the pi camera). Any advice on where to buy the equipment in the UK and what I need to launch this payload?
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[18:39] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> some links to get you going http://www.pi-in-the-sky.com/ http://www.boconline.co.uk/en/products-and-supply/helium/index.html http://randomsolutions.co.uk/Random_Aerospace/Balloons.html
[18:40] Nick change: SA6BSS-Mike|2 -> SA6BSS-Mike
[18:41] <SA6BSS-Mike> you will need a notam as well https://www.google.se/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=notam%20uk
[18:41] <SA6BSS-Mike> lots and lots of info https://ukhas.org.uk/
[18:42] <R34lB0rg> Ben___, pi is power hungry - you may want to use only one
[18:42] <x-f> Ben___, one RPi can do sensors and photos (and radio comms)
[18:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> maybe additional camera as the pi cam is not that good
[18:45] <fsphil> I would give https://ukhas.org.uk/general:beginners_guide_to_high_altitude_ballooning a read through
[18:55] <Ben___> Also, anyway to cheaply do APRS (I am a fully licenced ham)?
[18:56] <russss> Ben___: I would draw your attention to the part of your license which forbids airborne operation then :)
[18:56] <Ben___> good point
[18:56] <Ben___> it has been a while
[18:56] <Ben___> :)
[18:57] <adamgreig> (assuming you are a UK radio amateur?)
[18:57] <Ben___> I am
[18:57] <adamgreig> then yes, it's illegal to use that licence airborne, you are pretty much limited to the various ISM bands
[18:57] <russss> the ukhas.net system exists mostly because of that prohibition of airborne operation. In the US they can just use APRS everywhere.
[18:58] <adamgreig> ukhas.org.uk I'm sure you meant :P
[18:58] <russss> er, UKHAS system. ukhas.net is something slightly different and I've been typing it too much
[18:58] <russss> it's automatic for my brain now
[18:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://tracker.habhub.org/
[18:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://www.habduino.org/ small aprs board but I guess its not alowed
[18:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> in the uk and a lot of eu
[19:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> -airborne
[19:00] <Ben___> Is mobile phone reception any good 30 km in the sky?
[19:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> not verry, usuly cuts out a couple of km of ground
[19:02] <russss> yeah, it's not usable above ~2km
[19:03] <Ben___> I could use a sat phone i guess but they cost a fortune.
[19:04] <adamgreig> very power hungry as well
[19:04] <adamgreig> why not just use the ISM radios everyone else does? they work really quite well
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[19:04] <Ben___> ISM? sorry I am clueless
[19:05] <adamgreig> it stands for industrial scientific and medicine but that's not important right now
[19:05] <adamgreig> it's the licence exempt radio spectrum where you are allowed some limited power and bandwidth
[19:05] <adamgreig> e.g. 10mW on 434MHz
[19:05] <mfa298> rtty has a proven track record, or if you want to be more interesting use one of the other modes (DominoEX, Contessia etc) or if you want to upset some use Lora
[19:05] <adamgreig> or 100mW but for 10% duty cycle around 868MHz etc
[19:05] <adamgreig> but people reliably get data from 700km away with this sort of thing
[19:06] <Ben___> Will I need a yagi to point at it or will it be fine?
[19:06] <Ben___> with a dipole
[19:06] <SA6BSS-Mike> will follow it with your cat when it flls back to earth a magmount antenna will be fine
[19:07] <SA6BSS-Mike> *car / *falls
[19:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> a small handheld yagi can be good to have to fins it when its on ground
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[19:09] <SA6BSS-Mike> what uhf radio u got?
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[19:10] <Ben___> Yasu FD-897D and a baofeng thing?
[19:10] <Ben___> ignore the q mark
[19:11] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok, the 897
[19:11] <mfa298> You'll need something that can do USB on 70cms (so the FD-897D will work)
[19:11] <SA6BSS-Mike> is great, semi mobile if u bring that
[19:11] <Ben___> hahaha, ok.
[19:11] <SA6BSS-Mike> I got a 817, its verry mobile :)
[19:12] <mfa298> it's well worth trying to track other peoples balloons to see how it works (there are a couple planned for tomorrow during the say)
[19:12] <Ben___> where
[19:12] <Ben___> ?
[19:12] <SA6BSS-Mike> uk
[19:13] <SA6BSS-Mike> Elmsworth and cambridge
[19:13] <mfa298> a vertical antenna into your 897 should receive them reasonable well
[19:13] <Ben___> cool cool
[19:13] <mfa298> Ben___: what sort of area in the UK are you ?
[19:14] <Ben___> Very near there, Ipswich
[19:14] <daveake> Elmsworth ?
[19:14] <daveake> That's catching on
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[19:14] <Ben___> cambridge
[19:15] <mfa298> there are hopefully details on https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ukhas for both the flights
[19:15] <amell> Its getting a bit ridiculous all the stuff happening down the road from me.
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[19:16] <amell> The Elmsworth Lora gateway awaits further packets
[19:16] <mfa298> hmmm, I think he had the wrong co-ords on his flight doc as well: Elmsworth (52.2135,0.0964)
[19:16] <mfa298> I think that should be -0.0964
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[19:23] <daveake> Yeah, and the launch altitude was 27000
[19:23] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[19:23] <Lunar_Lander> quite high start
[19:24] <Ben___> So, for a beginner sending up around an 800g payload, what sort of size baloon should I be thinking about an how high could I go?
[19:25] <mfa298> there's a useful calculator for that http://habhub.org/calc/
[19:25] <mfa298> normally you'd want to aim for a 5m/s ascent and 5m/s descent rate
[19:28] <Lunar_Lander> we sent a 800 g payload to 31 km with a kaymont 1000
[19:28] <Lunar_Lander> but that was at about 6 m/s ascent almost
[19:29] <edmoore> Ben___: 1200g or 1600g hyowee balloons are popular
[19:29] <Ben___> kk
[19:29] <Ben___> thanks
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[19:41] <Ben___> Any cheep camera recommendations?
[19:43] <amell> Elmsworth is at 52.25161,-0.09172,46
[19:43] <amell> allegedly 46m off the WGS84 geoid.
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[19:48] <Ben___> also, is there any way to do SSTV from the Radiometrix NTX2?
[19:48] <amell> SSDV?
[19:48] <edmoore> Ben___: if wanting to send pics down, the pi+picam solution is probably cheapest and certainly most battlebested
[19:49] <edmoore> that uses the ntx2
[19:49] <edmoore> well, the Pi in the Sky project does anyway
[19:49] <amell> I think he switched to mtx2
[19:49] <Ben___> no, sstv, but ssdv would be mega cool, is that possable?
[19:49] <edmoore> which is a shield for a pi that has the gps and radio and other bits of hardware to let you know your position and send down telemetry and pictures
[19:49] <edmoore> that uses ssdv
[19:50] <Ben___> ok
[19:50] <Ben___> I think I buy one then
[19:50] <edmoore> you can make your own if you fancy a project or yes you can buy
[19:50] <amell> you could even buy the lora board to send ssdv images faster
[19:50] <amell> please do, then i can receive your project.
[19:51] <edmoore> no
[19:54] <edmoore> well, do what you like, but you'll probably learn more with the ntx2 and a general purpose radio receiver
[20:15] Action: mfa298 agrees with edmoore, and whilst you can't use amateur radio airborne doing a hab where you've built the system yourself is very much in the spirit of amateur radio (experimentation and self learning)
[20:16] <fsphil> good advice
[20:16] <amell> daveake - is there any problem if i do nohup lora-gateway & ?
[20:17] <daveake> no
[20:17] <amell> not looked at the code in great detail, just wondering if others run this in the background and login to bring it to fg every now and again
[20:17] <amell> ok.
[20:17] <daveake> I just run it from rc.d or whatever
[20:18] <amell> how do you get the session? quit and load it again?
[20:18] <daveake> If I want to see it? Yeah I just kill it and start again
[20:18] <amell> makes sense.
[20:18] <mfa298> amell: screen / tmux are probably what you want if you want to detacch from a program and then get back to it later
[20:19] <daveake> yes
[20:19] <amell> yeah, i used to use screen a lot. just dont like the control key issues you sometimes get with screen
[20:20] <amell> actually, i dont think ive used screen for like 20 years. time to try it again
[20:20] <mfa298> the "cool kids" would tell you to use tmux these days.
[20:20] <fsphil> I use it daily, it's saved me a few times
[20:21] <adamgreig> tmux is just better, might as well use it
[20:21] <mfa298> I think I've got at least 4 screen sessions running in variosu places. Brilliant with irssi for IRC :)
[20:21] <fsphil> http://31.media.tumblr.com/c18f9621adcfffefacef2e411b07bf41/tumblr_mpt3hrdKBI1sp7v2io1_500.gif
[20:22] <amell> trying this tmux seeing as its apparently designated as cool
[20:22] <dbrooke> end of https://ukhas.net/wiki/dbrooke_nodes:dbpg is what I do (that's for ukhasnet gateway, but it's similar)
[20:23] <amell> very good, but i wanna be cool
[20:24] <amell> looking at that webpage, makes me think, is there rfm98 ukhasnet?
[20:24] <mfa298> there's certainly some stuff that tmux is better at (being attached multiple times), I've just been using screen too long to break that habit and switch
[20:25] <mfa298> plus I can run screen on pretty much any *nix I've used.
[20:25] <edmoore> i think a lot of the reasons tmux is cool are for more advanced use than what 99% of people use screen for
[20:26] <edmoore> ssh in, screen, start something, detach, logout
[20:26] <amell> just reading. looks like tmux you can have panes&
[20:26] <adamgreig> mostly it's just not got that annoying splash screen on connect
[20:26] <edmoore> although i don't know much about the underlying architecture
[20:26] <adamgreig> but if you have neither installed, might as well install tmux
[20:26] <adamgreig> shorter command name too
[20:26] <amell> tmux appears to be client/server
[20:26] <edmoore> but tmux is cool for managing multiple sessions, split window support, pasting stuff between tmux splits/buufers (e.g. i have got vim pasting stuff into ipython which is fun)
[20:27] <dbrooke> amell: UKHASnet is not LoRa, but I woudln't be surprised if you could use the RFM98 FSK mode to be compatible
[20:27] <mfa298> edmoore: I can do all that in screen as well
[20:28] <mfa298> although I don't use split screens as it usually just gets confusing, and usually the only time I've wanted split screens is editing multiple files which I can so in vim
[20:29] <amell> just remembered you could pick other peoples sessions up in screen at one time
[20:30] <amell> fun for all the family on Sequent Dynix.
[20:30] <dbrooke> I just have shortcuts of the form "uxterm -title stirling -e ssh stirling -t screen -d -RR" so all my remote sessions are in screen by default
[20:31] <amell> I dont suppose anyone remembers Dynix? :)
[20:32] <dbrooke> before SunOS I used VMS
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[20:32] <amell> v good. I used VME before getting into SunOS 2
[20:35] <fsphil> split screen screen (yay) is good for working on something on top and tailing logs below
[20:36] <fsphil> it doesn't remember being split though, if you reconnect you have to set it up again
[20:36] <fsphil> not sure if tmux does better there
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[20:37] <mfa298> the biggest thing I've seen tmux do better is having multiple front ends connected to the same backed (screen -x)
[20:37] <amell> handy overview http://www.sitepoint.com/tmux-a-simple-start/
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[20:39] <mfa298> tmux wraps based on the smallest screen, and shows where the working area is, screen seems to wrap each session based on it's own width (which can look very odd)
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[20:41] <mfa298> useful when doing multi-player sysadmin
[20:42] <amell> ok had a play. tmux is way better than screen. Im so using this from now on.
[20:42] <amell> screen is an 80s relic
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[20:51] <mfa298> from that page I think the only thing not in the default packaged versions is vertical split.
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[20:55] <mfa298> plus you can use screen as a serial console :)
[20:56] <dbrooke> I do that surprisingly often
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[21:18] <fsphil> it's not worth messing with minicom
[21:23] <edmoore> there's literally the couple from portlandia (in real life) in this louis theroux documentary
[21:26] <amell> fsphil: tmux remembers all your panes/split screen etc. its fricking awesome.
[21:31] <fsphil> nice. I'll have to give it a spin
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[23:44] <DL7AD> is there somebody who knows how to pet windows? i'm trying to write binary data (with c) into a file. it works but sometimes, something else is written into the file than it was supposed to. in other words. i write something into a file, verify it, but the verification fails.
[23:44] <DL7AD> sometimes it works. sometimes not.
[23:45] <DL7AD> also: i write everytime 224bytes. but the files are finally 224-226bytes long.
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[23:49] <lowinger42> DL7AD, hard to say, without some code
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[23:52] <DL7AD> lowinger42: http://pastebin.com/mf3LikPX
[23:53] <DL7AD> the program gets the input from direwolf and search for image packets.
[23:53] <DL7AD> when the packet is detected, its base91 decoded
[23:53] <DL7AD> and put into a file
[23:55] <DL7AD> the content which has been written is mostly similar but not identical
[23:56] <lowinger42> so, you pipe data into the program in a windows shell, and redirect to a file?
[23:56] <DL7AD> yes
[23:56] <lowinger42> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7924365/windows-pipes-in-binary-mode
[23:57] <DL7AD> ehm no. i do not pipe binary data
[23:57] <lowinger42> ah ok
[23:57] <DL7AD> the data from direwolf is ascii
[23:57] <lowinger42> but output is binary?
[23:57] <lowinger42> or base91 encoded
[23:57] <DL7AD> yes and no. the output is binary true. but i write the data into a file from the c program
[23:58] <lowinger42> ok, pwrite
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