highaltitude.log.20160414

[00:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6NVB-11 after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6NVB-11
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[00:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Sq9onx_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Sq9onx_chase
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[01:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VR2ZDX-10 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VR2ZDX-10
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[06:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03L2153183 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=L2153183
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[08:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LCARS_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LCARS_chase
[08:45] <pb0ahx_> !flights
[08:45] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx_: Current flights: 03Zinoo4 flight 10(d9fb), 03BENNY_1 10(894b), 03BENNY_1 10(69d2), 03PICO-23 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(ddfe)
[08:52] <pb0ahx_> go BENNY-1 flying today ??
[08:53] Nick change: pb0ahx_ -> pb0ahx-Herman
[08:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ee_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ee_chase
[08:54] <daveake> According to the iCal feed, yes benny flies this morning
[08:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03A-8_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=A-8_chase
[08:55] <mfa298> I think it's this one https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ukhas/bj54HgW8bfQ
[08:55] <mfa298> so might be cancelled
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[09:01] <PE2BZ> !flights
[09:01] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03Zinoo4 flight 10(d9fb), 03BENNY_1 10(894b), 03BENNY_1 10(69d2), 03PICO-23 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(ddfe)
[09:06] <daveake> Ah, would help if they mentioned the payload in the mail
[09:14] <PE2BZ> Good morning. Would someone know where to find the past wind predictions for the 12th of April for the UK (around Exeter) ?
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[09:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ZINOO4 after 035 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ZINOO4
[09:22] <mfa298> agreed daveake, or had continued from the previous posts (although I think those had been taken over by someone launching yesterday)
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[09:36] <Alz_> hello!
[09:37] <fsphil> howdy
[09:38] <Alz_> Welp, I'm a newbie to both IRC and HAB, so I was hoping to find some guidance here
[09:38] <fsphil> well you definitly mastered one of the two :)
[09:39] <SM0ULC-Reb> Alz_: no problem, get real irc-client like kvirc etc
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[09:40] <SM0ULC-Reb> Alz_: much easier :)
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[09:46] <mfa298> there's usually plenty of help here, just ask questions and you'll probably get a reply.
[09:47] <mfa298> it may help to know where you are in the world
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[09:47] <Alz_> Spain (Trying KVirc right now)
[09:52] <Alz_> can't seem to get KV to work. Anyway. I have the Pi in the Sky board, and I've been trying to get dl-fldigi to decode the signal. Thing is, the payload does not appear in the list of "active" ones, even with GPS lock on
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[09:56] <SM0ULC-Reb> Alz_: that data comes from habhub, registered flights
[09:56] <daveake> Alz_ The active list in dlfldigi is for actual flights not tests
[09:56] <daveake> You don't need to be in that list and shouldn't be either till you are about to fly
[09:57] <daveake> What you do need is a payload document so you appear on the map - see http://www.pi-in-the-sky.com/index.php?id=getting-on-the-map
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[09:58] <Alz_> Yeah I did one (btw, is there a way to send messages to only one person?)
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[10:02] <SM0ULC-Reb> /msg daveake
[10:02] <SM0ULC-Reb> :D
[10:03] <daveake> other targets are available :p
[10:03] <Alz_> 0
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[10:03] <daveake> in further defence, most questions are better asked to the group
[10:04] <SM0ULC-Reb> definitely
[10:04] <Alz_> Yeah I imagine
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[10:11] <edmoore> yes picking on one person without being invited was something i put up with for the first 3796 times
[10:11] <edmoore> and now i don't
[10:12] <Alz_> Okay, I didnt have the parser configuration done. So, If I turn on the PitS tracker now, it should appear on the map, right?
[10:13] <daveake> There's a list of provisos in that page I linked to
[10:13] <SM0ULC-Reb> Alz_: are you getting the sentences ok in fl-digi?
[10:14] <Alz_> daveake: "provisos"? you mean, the conditions for it to appear?
[10:15] <daveake> Yes
[10:15] <daveake> e.g. no GPS lock
[10:15] <daveake> Also see http://www.pi-in-the-sky.com/data/uploads/pits-manual.pdf
[10:15] <Alz_> SM0ULC-Reb: let me turn on the tracker and see (I didn't yesterday)
[10:17] <Alz_> daveake: I've been following it, but through the PitS website
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[11:18] <Alz_> Okey, tracker is online. GPS locked. @SM0ULC-Reb, nop, im not getting the sentences right
[11:21] <daveake> Have you set the baud rate etc in dl-fldigi ?
[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03L4350042 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=L4350042
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[11:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6NVB-11 after 0311 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6NVB-11
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[11:56] <daey> dcf77 receivers are quite common in germany. no idea how known they are outside. im wondering about the antenna these modules use. its a small ferrit core with a lot of windings around it in the lower 1/3 of the ferrite. it looks roughly like this
[11:56] <daey> ====|||||=
[11:56] <daey> i was wondering, how they get away with such a small antenna, as the signal is transmitted on 77.5khz
[11:58] <russss> they are magnetic loop antennas
[11:59] <russss> which is some manner of antenna witchcraft which enables you receive low frequencies with small antennas
[12:00] <russss> also popular in shortwave radios
[12:00] <russss> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_antenna
[12:00] <daey> ty.
[12:00] <daey> already reading :>
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[12:05] <fsphil> magic loop antenna :)
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[12:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03default_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=default_chase
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[13:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ap_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ap_chase
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[16:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NM5SS-10 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NM5SS-10
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[17:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KK4POC-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK4POC-11
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[17:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB-BIN after 0321 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-BIN
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[17:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CHANGEME - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHANGEME
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[17:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03arpana_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=arpana_chase
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[18:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KA5AHS-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KA5AHS-11
[18:12] <arjunnaha> ping daveake
[18:13] <arjunnaha> How can I stop the PITS software on the Pi, to be able to update the software. Ctrl-C doesn't seem to be working...
[18:15] <daveake> See http://www.pi-in-the-sky.com/index.php?id=editing-the-code
[18:16] <daveake> But you don't need to stop it to update
[18:16] <daveake> You just need to login - e.g. putty, or ALT-F2 on the Pi keyboard
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[18:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03YL3GBC-9_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YL3GBC-9_chase
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[18:42] <Ben-AstroSoc> does anyone know if you can still get Estes E-class rocket motors in the UK? They seem to be really difficult to get hold of
[18:43] <Vaizki> your HAB needs a JATO booster? :)
[18:43] <Ben-AstroSoc> nah, bought the F9 model from SpaceX
[18:44] <Ben-AstroSoc> got some D-class motors left over from a couple of weeks back but never had anything to use E's with until now
[18:44] <gonzo__m> last ones we had I think were D. That was a long time ago as the model shop is long gone
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[18:45] <Ben-AstroSoc> they're certainly a pain to get online - i'll see if my local model shop has any but not gonna hold my breathe
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[18:46] <Vaizki> how tall is the model?
[18:46] <Ben-AstroSoc> 32"
[18:46] <Vaizki> sibot wake up
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[18:49] <kc2pit> 32 inches maybe?
[18:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SR0FLY - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SR0FLY
[18:49] <kc2pit> Nope. The world will never know how much 32 inches is in real units. Some things were just not meant to be known by Man, I suppose.
[18:50] <Ben-AstroSoc> 82 cm :^)
[18:52] <Ben-AstroSoc> got some extra D12's for it but a few E9's would've been nice
[18:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BlueDot after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BlueDot
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[18:59] <daveake> 32"
[18:59] <daveake> hmmm
[19:00] <craag> hmm
[19:00] Action: craag pokes SIbot
[19:00] <craag> 32 feet
[19:00] <SIbot> In real units: 32 ft = 9.75 m
[19:00] <craag> 32'
[19:00] <daveake> 32 inches
[19:00] <craag> no ok it doesn't do that
[19:00] <craag> 32 inch
[19:00] <craag> I think it just did feet tbh
[19:01] <craag> would look at the code but the pub calls...
[19:01] <daveake> :)
[19:02] <Ben-AstroSoc> Looking into a different company, might have to mod the rocket a bit
[19:02] <Ben-AstroSoc> Would be nice to get into higher power stuff but feels like a massive pain in this country
[19:03] <adamgreig> it's fine
[19:03] <lz1dev> craag: https://github.com/rossengeorgiev/SIbot :>
[19:03] <adamgreig> skip estes
[19:03] <adamgreig> move on to actual motors
[19:03] <adamgreig> easy to get cesseroni and aerotech stuff
[19:04] <adamgreig> up to M is quite doable though tends to be special order
[19:04] <craag> lz1dev: that's the buggy one :P
[19:04] <Ben-AstroSoc> Are they same sort of size or do I need to scale up my rocket again? :')
[19:04] <adamgreig> but up to J or so is generally in-stock
[19:04] <adamgreig> they vary
[19:04] <adamgreig> obviously an M is quite big
[19:04] <Ben-AstroSoc> Yeah
[19:04] <adamgreig> consider that the impulse doubles with each new letter
[19:04] <lz1dev> craag: buggy?
[19:04] <adamgreig> but a G motor isn't too bad..
[19:05] <Ben-AstroSoc> I'd probably need a bigger rocket for anything bigger than an E >.>
[19:06] <adamgreig> good excuse to scale up
[19:06] <Ben-AstroSoc> I'll see if there's a club nearby me
[19:07] <adamgreig> https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomskk/22270614772/in/album-72157659948759136/
[19:07] <adamgreig> ^ me last year
[19:07] <Ben-AstroSoc> Nice hat
[19:07] Action: Ben-AstroSoc ignores the fact he has the same one
[19:07] <Ben-AstroSoc> Is that in the UK?
[19:07] <adamgreig> lol, the tilley hemp one?
[19:08] <Ben-AstroSoc> Yeah
[19:08] <adamgreig> does it look like the UK :P no, it's in black rock desert, nevada
[19:08] <Ben-AstroSoc> Figured
[19:09] <Ben-AstroSoc> I'll do some poking around for local people
[19:11] <Ben-AstroSoc> Out of curiosity at what sort of motor size do you start needing control systems?
[19:11] <adamgreig> shrug
[19:11] <adamgreig> not sure there's really a cutoff
[19:11] <adamgreig> I've seen Qs with no control systems
[19:11] <Ben-AstroSoc> Fair
[19:11] <adamgreig> and like, Gs with them
[19:12] <adamgreig> more about what you want to do
[19:12] <adamgreig> adding control systems makes a lot of people a lot twitchier about letting you launch
[19:13] <Ben-AstroSoc> Yeah
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[19:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ForestHAB - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ForestHAB
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[20:58] <MikeUoN> Hi, I'm having some trouble uploading telemetry to HabHub, FlDigi is telling me the telemetry was uploaded okay, but I'm not seeing it in the logtail for Habhub.
[20:58] <MikeUoN> ID is UON2
[20:58] <lz1dev> [2016-04-14 20:58:30,598] DEBUG habitat.parser MainThread: No configuration doc for 'UON2' found
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[21:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UON2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UON2
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[23:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03L4350304 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=L4350304
[23:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP5MG-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5MG-11
[23:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6NVB-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6NVB-11
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