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[01:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VOPSEN - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VOPSEN
[01:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03kc9meg_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=kc9meg_chase
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[07:53] <pb0ahx__> !flights
[07:53] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx__: Current flights: 03PICO-23 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(ddfe)
[07:54] <pb0ahx__> !dial ddfe
[07:54] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx__: Latest dials for 03SP9UOB PICO 22 - 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(ddfe): 03144.251 MHz, 144.701 MHz
[07:54] <pb0ahx__> gm all
[07:55] <fsphil> morn
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[08:03] <PE2BZ> Good morning
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[08:19] <amell> perfect hab weather today and nobody is flying? :-S
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[08:21] <fsphil> next week looks quite nice here, predictions landing within 20km of launch site
[08:21] <amell> im still waiting for a lora payload to fly by
[08:22] <amell> from now on i only listen for lora. rtty is too much hassle
[08:22] <PE2BZ> I noticed a LoRa announcement for today.
[08:22] <amell> really?
[08:22] <fsphil> heh, I'm the opposite
[08:23] <PE2BZ> Early notice for a flight I'm hoping to do next Thursday.
[08:23] <PE2BZ> It has a single Pi tracker using LoRa on 434.500MHz, and my "mode 1" (Implicit/EC 4:5/BW 20.8kHz/ SF6), sending telemetry and SSDV. Payload ID is "ASTROPI". There will be no RTTY this time.
[08:23] <amell> not in the calendar
[08:23] <PE2BZ> fsphil +1 , i have the Lora module on the desk and the Pi is running Domoticz now ;-)
[08:24] <amell> PE28Z whats the name of the payload flying today?
[08:24] <PE2BZ> amell I post the comple text:
[08:24] <PE2BZ> Early notice for a flight I'm hoping to do next Thursday.
[08:24] <PE2BZ> It has a single Pi tracker using LoRa on 434.500MHz, and my "mode 1" (Implicit/EC 4:5/BW 20.8kHz/ SF6), sending telemetry and SSDV. Payload ID is "ASTROPI". There will be no RTTY this time.
[08:24] <PE2BZ> As well as PITS and LoRa boards, the Pi has a "Sense HAT" as used by Tim Peake on the ISS. Values from the sensors on that board will be logged locally and included in the telemetry transmissions.
[08:24] <PE2BZ> The signal will stop every 30 seconds for a 5-second uplink slot. By no coincidence whatsoever, the flight date is Tim Peake's birthday and I will be inviting people to tweet suitable messages which will be relayed to the payload via the LoRa uplink. Messages will then scroll on the Sense HAT LED matrix and recorded on a video camera. in the absence of tweeted messages, the matrix will display the altitude and temperature.
[08:24] <PE2BZ> I'll post the twitter hashtag shortly before the flight.
[08:24] <PE2BZ> Dave
[08:24] <amell> oh sorry,
[08:25] <amell> daveake: are you still flying?
[08:25] <daveake> Cancelled as per the mailing list
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[08:26] <PE2BZ> amell NP, I did not mean you did not read ok, just to inform you that I would repost the complete text.
[08:32] <mfa298> PE2BZ: it might have been more useful to provide a link to the post e.g. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ukhas/PmEsDigm73E
[08:37] <PE2BZ> mfa298 you are right, but I did read the message on a forum where you need to subscribe. I thought it was not usefull to have one to register before being able to read the message
[08:38] <daveake> Anyone who's interested in tracking HABs should be subscribed anyway. Also, posting the whole message is a bit spammy (not that there's much other traffic here lately, I'll admit)
[08:39] <fsphil> bring back the error bot! :)
[08:39] <daveake> hah :)
[08:41] <mfa298> I'm pretty sure the google group post is visible to all (you don't need to register to see posts) and is the source of almost all UK based hab announcments.
[08:42] <mfa298> It should also have the updates about things being cancelled, changed, delayed etc.
[08:42] <daveake> indeed
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[08:54] <daveake> craag: Nice to see a wiki on batc now
[08:55] <craag> Yes. Instead of finding info in that bloody forum
[08:55] <daveake> Yeah that never worked
[08:55] <daveake> Plenty of unanswered questions no actual info
[08:56] <craag> I started building of the minitioune (dvb-s usb receiver) kits, and set up that wiki the next day ;)
[08:56] <craag> *one of
[08:56] <daveake> :)
[08:56] <daveake> Does the viewer now show larger resolution streams without shrinking them?
[08:57] <craag> that's still WIP
[08:57] <craag> https://principia.ariss.org/live/ is on our prototype new system
[08:57] <daveake> OK. What's the best resolution to use now?
[08:57] <craag> Erm not sure. Been a while since I used the old one
[08:58] <daveake> I'm going to set up a more permanent streamer in my garden, with servos to aim at the balloon or sunsets as required :)
[08:58] <daveake> ok
[08:58] <craag> So you can embed the player applet in your own page
[08:58] <craag> and then make it any size you want
[08:58] <daveake> excellent, that's what we want :)
[08:59] <daveake> Steve leapfrogged batc somewhat with his youtube and semi-pro kit :/
[09:00] <craag> the batc kit is all quite decent now
[09:00] <daveake> With embedding, I can add controls to aim the camera
[09:00] <craag> 1080i everywhere
[09:00] <craag> *batc event kit
[09:00] <craag> atem tv studio sdi mixer
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[09:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> talking og space, Arecibo will moonbounce 16, 17,18 apr on70cm, one should be able to pick up the signal with a small yagi
[09:03] <SA6BSS-Mike> thats 400W into a 60dbi of gain antenna
[09:04] <SA6BSS-Mike> they can withour problem listen to a 3W walkietalkie on Mars :)
[09:04] <craag> BATC event streaming kit on the right-hand seat here https://www.flickr.com/photos/philcrump2/24998453003/in/album-72157665454018862/
[09:04] <russss> what are they moonbouncing?
[09:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> ssb and cw
[09:06] <SA6BSS-Mike> cant fins any other info, run this through google translate http://eventerbee.com/event/arecibo-on-432-mhz-moon-bounce-czno-przez-odbicie-od-ksiyca,515658001949391
[09:06] <russss> hmm
[09:07] <russss> I think that might be old. It's quite similar to this announcement from 2010 http://www.southgatearc.org/news/april2010/arecibo_432_moonbounce.htm
[09:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> nop, I heard
[09:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> of it late last year
[09:08] <russss> oh cool, just concerned that the dates were the same
[09:09] <SA6BSS-Mike> ah, hmm
[09:09] <SA6BSS-Mike> Im sure I heard about it but cant find any more info, I can be wrong
[09:11] <fsphil> craag: when's the next iss video contact?
[09:11] <craag> two scheduled for w/c 18th april
[09:12] <craag> then one per week for another 3 weeks
[09:12] <fsphil> must see if I can get my stuff ready
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[09:16] <SA6BSS-Mike> regaring aricibo, there is a no go http://ot20.pzk.org.pl/news.php?readmore=1189
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[09:19] <russss> oh well
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[09:21] <russss> as a consolation, if anyone hasn't seen them, Balint Seeber's video tours of arecibo from when he was doing the ISEE-3 reboot are great: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPmwwVknVIiUlPbkfBUY1ebP_8hA_4q8j
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[09:32] <pb0ahx__> upu u are here now ??
[09:32] <Upu> I am but just about to leave the office
[09:32] <Upu> is it quick ?
[09:33] <pb0ahx__> u got mail from me Order ID: 275
[09:33] <pb0ahx__> need i more for lora receiving ??
[09:34] <Upu> you're wanting to make a Lora reciever with it ?
[09:34] <pb0ahx__> yep
[09:34] <Upu> you just need that and a Raspberry Pi
[09:34] <Upu> and an antenna ofc
[09:34] <Upu> http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=1719
[09:34] <pb0ahx__> ok than i have all tnx
[09:34] <Upu> super
[09:34] <Upu> ok afk
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[09:40] <fsphil> well this sounds familiar, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKPBvf2hRrw
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[10:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-63 after 0317 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-63
[10:04] <fsphil> noice
[10:05] <fsphil> good altitude
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[10:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE2WMG-11 after 033 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE2WMG-11
[10:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VA2RMG-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VA2RMG-11
[10:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EOS_T2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EOS_T2
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[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03Legionowo after 0310 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Legionowo
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[11:33] <DL7AD> hi
[11:34] <fsphil> afternoon
[11:34] <DL7AD> fsphil: i incresed the speed again :P
[11:35] <DL7AD> the Si4464 communication have been quiet slow.
[11:35] <fsphil> impossible, nothing is faster than 9600 bits/s :)
[11:35] <DL7AD> ~3.5packets per second
[11:35] <fsphil> nice
[11:36] <DL7AD> fsphil: could you possibly help me with the OV2640 later?
[11:36] <fsphil> I'm hoping to get one this week, it was ordered ages ago
[11:36] <fsphil> er, thursday. probably be next week
[11:37] <fsphil> have you tried anything with it yet?
[11:37] <DL7AD> by the way...
[11:38] <DL7AD> i've tried to flash a demo image into the microcontroller but the "while((c = ssdv_enc_get_packet(&ssdv)) == SSDV_FEED_ME)" never returns.....
[11:38] <fsphil> the get_packet() function never returns?
[11:40] <DL7AD> it everytime returns FEED_ME
[11:41] <fsphil> did you run ssdv_enc_feed() before going in?
[11:41] <fsphil> if your demo image is in memory you can just feed it all in one go
[11:42] <DL7AD> 1. no
[11:42] <DL7AD> 2. i dont have that much mem
[11:42] <DL7AD> 2b. wait. i do this like you do in the ssdv main
[11:43] <fsphil> flash can be read as normal ram
[11:43] <DL7AD> i know
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[11:43] <fsphil> so you can feed it directly
[11:44] <fsphil> ssdv_enc_feed(s, jpeg_in_flash, length)
[11:44] <DL7AD> thats exactly what im doing
[11:44] <DL7AD> but i dont want to change my implementation
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[11:46] <fsphil> is the code visible anywhere?
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[11:48] <DL7AD> fsphil: yes
[11:49] <DL7AD> no
[11:49] <DL7AD> i haven't commited the testimage to git atm
[11:49] <DL7AD> hold on
[11:53] <DL7AD> fsphil: https://github.com/DL7AD/pecan-stm32f429/blob/master/modules/image.c from line 29-97
[11:54] <DL7AD> i have a TRACE_DEBUG in line 35.
[11:54] <DL7AD> tracing looks like this
[11:54] <DL7AD> [ 165.984][DEBUG] 11392
[11:54] <DL7AD> [ 165.987][DEBUG] 11520
[11:54] <DL7AD> [ 165.989][DEBUG] 11648
[11:54] <DL7AD> [ 165.992][DEBUG] 11776
[11:54] <DL7AD> [ 165.994][ERROR] SSDV > jpeg_dht_lookup_symbol: 255 (-4993:10)
[11:54] <DL7AD> [ 165.000][ERROR] SSDV > jpeg_dht_lookup_symbol: 255 (-3165:5)
[11:54] <DL7AD> [ 165.006][ERROR] SSDV > jpeg_dht_lookup_symbol: 255 (-2343:10)
[11:54] <DL7AD> [ 165.022][ ] SSDV > ssdv_enc_get_packet said EOI
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[11:59] <fsphil> bi += 128; -- why not bi += r
[12:00] <DL7AD> that would be more corretly. but it doesnt affect the code only at the last packet.
[12:01] <fsphil> yeah I'm being picky :)
[12:01] <fsphil> looks like it's hitting invalid jpeg data
[12:02] <fsphil> how big is your jpeg?
[12:02] <DL7AD> true
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[12:10] <kokey> who does SentIntoSpace?
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[12:10] <Upu> BARC
[12:10] <Upu> they occasionally pop on here
[12:11] <kokey> ah, ok
[12:11] <kokey> sheffield it seems, thought it might be near you
[12:11] <Upu> close
[12:11] <kokey> in other news, we're moving to Leicestershire next month, no more Dublin
[12:12] <Upu> ok cool
[12:13] <kokey> so putting the uk back into ukhab for me
[12:14] <kokey> like I can order stuff for cheaper postage, and live in the middle of the country so I won't bother with a pico and just do something more traditional and high altitude
[12:14] <kokey> and install a tracker on the roof
[12:16] <daveake> the good life
[12:16] <DL7AD> fsphil: [ 10.242][ERROR] SSDV > Progressive images not supported
[12:16] <DL7AD> [ 10.246][ERROR] SSDV > ssdv_enc_get_packet failed: 255
[12:17] <fsphil> the better weather
[12:17] <fsphil> oh
[12:17] <fsphil> well that first error is pretty specific DL7AD :)
[12:17] <DL7AD> ive saved the image with gimp
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[12:18] <fsphil> not sure what it defaults to. check the advanced options
[12:20] <fsphil> progressive images tend to compress a little better but the order of the data is wrong for ssdv
[12:20] <fsphil> the name "progressive" always seemed wrong to me. it's more like interlaced
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[12:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MAGNU - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MAGNU
[12:33] <DL7AD> fsphil: i've got a different one
[12:34] <Vaizki> fsphil: I think the "progressive" refers to a progressive increase in resolution as the image downloads
[12:35] <fsphil> yeah that's likely
[12:38] <SpeedEvil> GIF properly interlaces
[12:38] <SpeedEvil> the lines are unconnected and in series
[12:38] <SpeedEvil> JPEG-progressive sequentially downloads the images finer resolution elements beginning with the coarsest
[12:39] <SpeedEvil> It does not 'interlace' - it never transmits high res full lines.
[12:40] <fsphil> DL7AD: different what?
[12:41] <DL7AD> fsphil: different image
[12:41] <fsphil> did it work?
[12:42] <DL7AD> yes
[12:44] <DL7AD> fsphil: i'm now transmitting a test image to the ssdv server
[12:44] <DL7AD> a quiet large one
[12:44] <DL7AD> 1920x1200
[12:45] <Vaizki> :D
[12:45] <DL7AD> with 9600bit/sec brutto
[12:46] <SpeedEvil> gonna need FEC
[12:46] <DL7AD> SpeedEvil: its AX.25
[12:47] <DL7AD> 2GFSK 9k6 APRS protocol.
[12:47] <DL7AD> fsphil: i've modified my perl script so i dont have to relay everything over the APRS-IS
[12:49] <Vaizki> I think it's amazing how complex they managed to make AX.25
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[13:15] <Kenni_> Hello
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[13:19] <Kenni_> Has anyone attempted HAB'ing with Netduino?
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[13:24] Action: mfa298 googles, .Net based uC
[13:24] <jonsowman> good lord no
[13:24] <jonsowman> why would you want to?
[13:24] <mfa298> there was a board using gadgeteer once, it was a spectacular failure
[13:24] <AndyEsser> jonsowman: maybe you're a .Net developer?
[13:25] <jonsowman> even more reason for not using it i'd've thought
[13:25] <Kenni_> jonsowman, there's actually developers out there with a high .NET proficiency :)
[13:25] <mattbrejza> there is no reason not to use the netduino though really
[13:26] <Kenni_> Howcome?
[13:26] <mfa298> the gadgeteer failure was probably as much down to other factors as being made to use gadgeteer
[13:27] <craag> the gadgeteer failure was: * High Power Consumption * Trying to do RTTY with delay loop (and GC) * Flashing it so many times they wore out bits of the flash
[13:28] <Vaizki> wore out flash.. wow
[13:28] <Kenni_> I think what I'm asking really, is if you're able to do properly timed interrupts with .Net MicroFramework on Netduino with the same precision as with Arduino
[13:29] <fab4space> using .Net with microcontroller is like using "xxx" with "yyy" :p
[13:29] <mattbrejza> just use it, itll be fine :) some people just dont like .net...
[13:29] <mattbrejza> much better than picaxe...
[13:29] <Kenni_> Obviously
[13:30] <craag> The only .NET problem there was relying on a delay loop for constant timing
[13:30] <Kenni_> Is it possible to get answers not tainted with loads of bias though? :)
[13:30] <jonsowman> no
[13:30] <daveake> no
[13:30] <craag> so use interupts :)
[13:30] <jonsowman> you're asking people's opinions
[13:30] <jonsowman> expect bias
[13:30] <daveake> You should have seen the comments when the Pi came out :p
[13:30] <jonsowman> asking for unbiased opinions is like using .net with microcontrollers
[13:31] <mattbrejza> still better than a rpi...
[13:31] <jonsowman> to coin a phrease
[13:31] <jonsowman> *phrase
[13:31] <Kenni_> daveake, I can imagine
[13:31] <daveake> Now, where's that PC104 tracker ...
[13:31] <Kenni_> I guess this is not the time to share that I've used my rpi's for my previous projects
[13:31] <mfa298> it would be certainly be interesting to see how a well done .Net based payload works.
[13:31] <craag> I've coded a payload in node.js btw Kenni_, so as long it's done properly then it'll work :)
[13:31] <Kenni_> Oh, nifty :)
[13:32] <jonsowman> /quit
[13:32] <Kenni_> </bias>
[13:32] <Kenni_> craag, how did that work out?
[13:33] <craag> well it was on a Pi, so stuff like symbol timing wasn't an issue (used UART -> NTX2)
[13:33] <daveake> Pi3 breaks that :/
[13:33] <daveake> Fixable tho
[13:33] <craag> The most annoying thing was that the string parsing for reading the temperature from my ds18b20 sensors broke <-5.0 degrees
[13:33] <Kenni_> daveake, is the Pi3 computing power necessary though?
[13:34] <craag> which was a 3rd party npm module :(
[13:34] <daveake> nowhere near, no
[13:34] <Kenni_> Same question goes for Pi2 and all models of Rpi really :)
[13:34] <mattbrejza> its just for the camera really...
[13:34] <mattbrejza> the spi jpeg ones are crap
[13:34] <Kenni_> Yeah
[13:34] <daveake> Closest I've got to using the available power was probably the payload that video streamed over 3G
[13:34] <craag> for a HD camera -> sdcard device, it's cheap and very scriptable
[13:34] <Kenni_> That's actually why I still considered using a Pi
[13:35] <Kenni_> Because I actually have the rpi cam lying about
[13:35] <craag> I'd like to see another of those daveake
[13:35] <daveake> Yeah the camera makes the Pi makes sense. Which is with the Pi Zero doesn't
[13:35] <daveake> craag Yeah was just thinking about that last night
[13:35] <mfa298> now all we need is a Pi2/Pi3 Win10 IoT payload </troll>
[13:35] <daveake> Then I saw the batc wiki post
[13:35] <AndyEsser> mfa298: poke the bear ;)
[13:36] <Kenni_> Currently, I only have a Ada GPS breakout tho
[13:39] <craag> The Adafruit Ultimate GPS breakout is ok, the ubloxes tend to be a lot less noisier on the reported position.
[13:39] <fsphil> DL7AD: if you are sending direct, are you still doing base91? you would be better not to
[13:40] <Kenni_> craag, so I've read, but I've actually placed an order on M8Q, by recommendation
[13:40] <craag> :)
[13:41] <Kenni_> Screw it. Ordered Netduino 3, we'll see how it goes :)
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[13:41] Action: fsphil does not add to the .net topic
[13:42] <jonsowman> :)
[13:43] <fsphil> don't mind it at all actually. it's just visual basic I don't like
[13:43] <fsphil> and .net apps on windows desktop seem to be as slow as java apps where
[13:44] <Kenni_> There's a difference between VB and C# though
[13:44] <fsphil> yeah
[13:44] <daveake> You don't say?
[13:44] <AndyEsser> VB6 4 lyf
[13:44] <fsphil> you can crash vb6 with a goto
[13:44] <fsphil> goto really is evil
[13:44] <Kenni_> Also, the whole .Net Core architecture is very nifty, and fast
[13:45] <AndyEsser> I used a goto in an interview for a vb6 job...
[13:45] <fsphil> gosub is worse
[13:46] <daveake> goto hell
[13:48] <fab4space> I think that for microcontroller, where memory is an issue, .Net can be problematic because it was not designed with this constraint at the beginning
[13:50] <mattbrejza> taht has 192kB of RAM though
[13:51] <mattbrejza> unsure what .net uses of that though
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[14:13] <fsphil> DL7AD: still missing that first packet :)
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[14:33] <daey> how do these smd gps antennas perform compared to the standard ones that come with ublox modules? these rectangular bricks with a short piece of rg316 cable
[14:37] <SA6BSS-Mike> loads better, but smd antenna or a 45mm (1/4) antenna works just as good on a hab
[14:37] <SA6BSS-Mike> so if you want to get gps from inside the house, great, on a hab -overkill
[14:39] <daey> ok. has anyone here tried to directly etch the antenna into the pcb copper?
[14:39] <SA6BSS-Mike> if you doing up down flights its good to possition the antenna out of the enclosure, so then fine with a outside antenna
[14:39] <SA6BSS-Mike> it was on peCANPICO 5
[14:40] <SA6BSS-Mike> for one example
[14:40] <mattbrejza> since a 46mm bit of wire works fine for gps, a 46mm long trace should also work fine
[14:40] <daey> well im essentially copying the pAVA. just different hardware
[14:40] <daey> mattbrejza: its that simple? i thought you need a specific waveimpedance etc
[14:40] <Vaizki> daey: I think it's better to use a small ceramic chip antenna on the pcb at least
[14:41] <daey> well they are expensive. im trying to make it as cheap as possible
[14:41] <mattbrejza> 46mm gives you 50ohm (or so)
[14:41] <mattbrejza> in theory you might need to adjust the length based on the pcb material changing the velocity factor
[14:41] <SA6BSS-Mike> https://kt5tk.wordpress.com/page/2/#jp-carousel-711
[14:41] <Vaizki> daey: under 1 usd each?
[14:42] <daey> mattbrejza: arent a lot more factors involved than just the length? dieelectricum dimensions etc.
[14:42] <SA6BSS-Mike> daey: doing a pico?
[14:42] <mattbrejza> well for microstrip yea, but a 1/4 wave antenna is just a bit of wire one quarter of a wavelength long
[14:43] <daey> SA6BSS-Mike: i want the tracker to be as light as possible. yes ive pico in mind
[14:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> the scrap the pcb idea
[14:43] <Vaizki> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9131
[14:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> its heavy :) a thin pice of wire ilighter
[14:44] <daey> mattbrejza: does it have to be straight? or could i 'spiral it'?
[14:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> https://kt5tk.wordpress.com/page/2/#jp-carousel-711
[14:44] <mattbrejza> well then it gets more interesting if you spiral and its no longer 1/4 wave antenna
[14:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> daey: looka at my link
[14:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> buts its unescery heavy
[14:45] <Vaizki> for some reason that link.. the page won't scroll down on my osx chrome
[14:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> I use scraped charger cables, thin, lihght and multistrand
[14:46] <daey> SA6BSS-Mike: ty. will take a look at home
[14:47] <SA6BSS-Mike> tried lenght 40-50mm on the gps, does not care, get the same amount of sat, so lenght is not that critical, but aim for ca 45mm
[14:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> if only the wind could change, stedely west. winds, tracker be out of eu tracker range within 12h
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[14:49] <SA6BSS-Mike> probably less
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[14:50] <daey> SA6BSS-Mike: well problem i see is. the 433 antenna hangs down. the gps antenna was supposed to point upwards. a thin wire isnt going to do that
[14:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> it is, no probelm, its only 45mm :)
[14:51] <daey> SA6BSS-Mike: im thinking of these super thin copper strands used for mini inductors
[14:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> u surly have some scraped usb cables or charger cables, they are perfect
[14:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qjwkh4rf11m3rkk/IMG_20160407_165140.jpg?dl=0
[14:54] <daey> the tracker is going to look like a christmas tree...the antennas being the lametta :p
[14:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> :) they only have to work, not look nice !
[14:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03X0 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=X0
[15:00] <daey> SA6BSS-Mike: ah i see you use the whole cable? i wanted to use a single strand :P
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[15:03] <daey> i guess i could connect the payload with a 50cm long string which holds the gps antenna straight
[15:03] <SA6BSS-Mike> ofc, u want multistrand for duability
[15:04] <daey> or even better. i USE the single strand to hold the payload
[15:04] <SA6BSS-Mike> why complicates thing its like 0,1grams
[15:04] <SA6BSS-Mike> all u going to to is that it breaks
[15:07] <SA6BSS-Mike> I weight the antenna its 0.04 grams
[15:07] <daey> oh. i thought the mantel+12strands (or how many they have) would be much heavier
[15:08] <daey> is there a lighter/cheaper alternative to the ublox modules?
[15:09] <SA6BSS-Mike> I?m ofc only using one cord from the charger cable, but it is multistarnd
[15:09] <Vaizki> daey: 45mm not 45cm?
[15:09] <daey> Vaizki: ah :D
[15:09] <Vaizki> ;)
[15:09] <Vaizki> it's 1.5GHz
[15:09] <SA6BSS-Mike> just for fun I weght the radiating element of 16cm, its 0.25 grams
[15:10] <daey> i already wondered how your 45cm flex cable doesnt bent :P
[15:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> :) lol, It was my next question , vaizki beat me to it
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[15:13] <Vaizki> and a 45cm pcb trace antenna.. just no :D
[15:17] <daey> Vaizki: i assume bending is not allowed with these patch antennas?
[15:17] <Vaizki> err what patch antennas?
[15:17] <Vaizki> you mean the chip antenna I linked? that one is ceramic, bending it is like trying to bend a cube of sugar
[15:18] <daey> a 45cm long straight pcb trace is obviously complicated but not if i bend it on the pcb
[15:19] <daey> Vaizki: i thought these straight 'just a long cable' antennas were called 'patch antenna' i guess i was mistaken
[15:19] <mfa298> patch antennas are something different again, don't confuse them with a plain pcb trace antenna
[15:19] <Vaizki> daey: waaaay beyond my skills
[15:19] <daey> Vaizki: what is?
[15:19] <mfa298> why do you need a 45cm long trace ?
[15:19] <daey> mfa298: i dont.
[15:20] <Vaizki> mfa298: he mixed up mm and cm.. ;)
[15:20] <fsphil> easily done. I just found an SMA socket on farnell with a max frequency of 18khz :)
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[15:21] <Vaizki> daey: pcb antenna design beyond what I can read in the application notes from rf chip makers
[15:21] <craag> fsphil: A mislabelled pl259?
[15:21] <mfa298> sma-pl259
[15:21] <fsphil> hah
[15:21] <fsphil> sma-bellinglee
[15:21] <Vaizki> daey: when you choose your gps chipset, they probably will have a AN or datasheet with antenna design guidelines
[15:22] <Vaizki> but it's not something I'd recommend doing, just get the chip I linked or use a piece of wire
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[15:32] <DL7AD> fsphil: yes still base91. if i dont encode base91, direwolf and all the other things will get a hick up.
[15:33] <DL7AD> fsphil: the missing packet: yes i know. and i know what the reason for that is. (timing and multithreading) but i currently have no idea how to fix this properly.
[15:38] <DL7AD> an OS has pro's and con's. pro: i'm very flexible in configuring the system and doing things at the same time. con: modulation and doing something else on the micro is bad.
[15:40] <DL7AD> 2,4% packet loss.
[15:41] <arjunnaha> Can a 1/4 ground plane consist of aluminum foil on the bottom of the payload?
[15:42] <DL7AD> arjunnaha: in theory yes.
[15:43] <arjunnaha> In practice?
[15:43] <DL7AD> but aluminium foil is quiet thin so it could break easily
[15:43] <arjunnaha> Maybe this stuff? http://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Self-Adhesive-Foil-Tape-50mmx45m/p/161265
[15:43] <mfa298> connecting wires to aluminium can be interesting as well.
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[15:44] <DL7AD> mfa298: yes, because you can solder aluminium foil arjunnaha
[15:44] <DL7AD> cant*
[15:45] <arjunnaha> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=solder+aluminium+foil
[15:45] <arjunnaha> Quite a few pages lol
[15:46] <mfa298> I wouldn't rely on foil tape being conductive.
[15:47] <DL7AD> fsphil: note, there are the same packets lost on all images.
[15:47] <mfa298> If you've got a decent surface to mount it on alu foil glued to the payload box, then attach cable to it with a staple gun might work, but that mgiht be as much effort and making a reasonable ground plane antenna
[15:47] <arjunnaha> I've just made the wiki pigtail antenna, but the central joint where it all connects is quite messy
[15:48] <arjunnaha> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/P4zio25m/irccloudcapture1738753122.jpg
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[16:05] <michal_f_wrk> arjunnaha: try with PCB: http://postimg.org/image/5f8kqqk6z/
[16:06] <arjunnaha> Is that copper clad?
[16:08] <michal_f_wrk> PCB + copper wires
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[16:27] <arjunnaha> michal_f_wrk: How did you make this?
[16:33] <mattbrejza> dremel i assume
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[16:48] <daey> arjunnaha: antennas are magic in my eyes o.o
[16:49] <SpeedEvil> daey: the show that Hasbro diddn't pick up.
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[16:49] <SpeedEvil> My little ariel (Antennas are magic)
[16:49] <daey> well they have a show with magic unicorns...the horns kinda could be antennas :P
[16:50] <daey> but your drinking straw construct looks...magnificient :p
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[16:51] <SpeedEvil> Yeah - looks fine
[16:51] Nick change: nigelvh -> Guest8264
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> If you really wanted to, you could make it neat by making a four pronged bit from thick circular wires - inspired by barbed wire
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> but - that way lies madness
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[16:52] <arjunnaha> SpeedEvil: Could you expand a little bit?
[16:53] <SpeedEvil> https://omegaforums.net/attachments/718561-png.53819/
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[16:54] <SpeedEvil> Imagine one of the barbs wrapped around something larger in diameter (the coax) and constructed more neatly so that four wires come off it
[16:54] <SpeedEvil> each going into a straw
[16:54] <daey> if you hide the two bottom spikes they look like 'metal sign hands'
[16:55] <arjunnaha> ah
[16:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DM3FB after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DM3FB
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[17:08] <sam__> hello?
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[17:18] <arjunnaha> Hello!
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[17:22] <fsphil> not quick enough
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[17:24] <michal_f> arjunnaha: dremel(point for mattbrejza)
[17:25] <arjunnaha> Did you cut the copper with the dremel?
[17:26] <arjunnaha> Or just a good old hacksaw :)
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[17:38] <michal_f> i cut wall with dremel
[17:38] <michal_f> *all
[17:53] <SpeedEvil> http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/ - on BEAM
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[19:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HAPROS - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HAPROS
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[19:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VOPSEN - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VOPSEN
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[21:04] <criticalmass> Hi chaps (and possibly chapettes)
[21:04] <criticalmass> Much going om?
[21:04] <criticalmass> *on
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[21:31] <fsphil> all quiet :)
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[21:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03STABILOTRON-II - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=STABILOTRON-II
[21:35] <DL7AD> could somebody of the admins remove all my test images?
[21:36] <DL7AD> because the webpage gets a bit large
[21:40] <DL7AD> fsphil
[21:41] <Vaizki> Calling dr phil
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[21:42] <daveake> dr empty the page
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[22:04] <DL7AD> fixed the first packet-loss error :P took me 6 hours to fix it.
[22:09] <SpeedEvil> :)
[22:09] <SpeedEvil> Installed a new fencepost?
[22:09] <DL7AD> fencepost?
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[22:30] <Babs_> Hix!
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[22:30] <Babs_> he hates me clearly :-(
[22:33] <Babs_> i was going to tell him that the tracker he christened has now been made, populated, booted up and is now firing on all cylinders.....
[22:34] <Babs_> https://www.flickr.com/photos/91049302@N00/25692627744/in/dateposted-public/
[22:37] <DL7AD> Babs_: what tracker is that?
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[22:49] <fsphil> looking nice with the qfp at 45 degrees
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[22:50] <fsphil> DL7AD: you could make a timelapse video of that train station from your images
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[22:57] <Ian_> DL7AD I suspect that the admins are all stacking up on their beauty sleep already :)
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[22:58] <DL7AD> Ian_: :D
[22:59] <DL7AD> then i will stack the page with images
[22:59] <DL7AD> fsphil: i've crushed your ssdv library
[23:00] <DL7AD> the server shows 2 seperate images for one transmission
[23:03] <DL7AD> thats the original image: https://www.planwallpaper.com/static/images/full_hd_wallpapers_45_21.jpg
[23:04] <fsphil> it did that because I cleared the database :p
[23:05] <DL7AD> ah
[23:05] <fsphil> 127200 packets from you in the last 48 hours :)
[23:05] <fsphil> the packets database is huge
[23:05] <fsphil> that's probably why it's slowing a bit
[23:06] <DL7AD> the large image hat 1500 packets
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[23:07] <fsphil> currently 1226761 packets, about 300MB. ok not that huge
[23:07] <DL7AD> fsphil: interestingly the packets which get lost all the time, are every time the same
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[23:07] <DL7AD> are the images saved forever?
[23:07] <fsphil> yeah. except the ones of yours I just deleted
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[23:08] <DL7AD> thats not a problem
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[23:09] <DL7AD> fsphil: tomorrow i'm going to fly
[23:09] <DL7AD> *myself
[23:09] <fsphil> impressive
[23:09] <DL7AD> first flight of the year
[23:10] <DL7AD> fsphil: is there a way to find out, which number of packets are missing?
[23:11] <fsphil> could you just decide to fly to another country, or do you have to inform the authorities first?
[23:11] <fsphil> yeah you can query the api for that info
[23:11] <DL7AD> i have to inform the DFS (german ATC) 30min in advance
[23:11] <DL7AD> fsphil: how
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[23:13] <fsphil> eg, http://ssdv.habhub.org/api/v0/images/20572?missing_packets
[23:13] <fsphil> the array "missing_packets" at the end
[23:14] <fsphil> more info at http://ssdv.habhub.org/about.php
[23:15] <DL7AD> thx
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