highaltitude.log.20160403

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[00:15] <amell> I can confirm that a rtl dongle inserted in Pi3 USB port crashes the pi :-S
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[00:18] <craag> amell: What power supply are you using?
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[00:19] <amell> ipad 12W - second time it worked. I have a Pi3 PSU coming tomorrow.
[00:20] <amell> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:2838 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL2838 DVB-T
[00:20] <craag> If by 'crashes' you mean locks up the system or reboots it, it's probably a lack of power issue
[00:20] <amell> ipad 12W is rated for 2.1A - the one coming tomorrow is rated for 2.5A
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[00:21] <craag> apple power supplies do funny things with negotiation though
[00:21] <amell> yeah
[00:21] <craag> I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't put out 12W unless you talked to it
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[00:24] <amell> The Pi3 is super fast :)
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[00:46] <mfa298> keep any eye on the red power led on the pi3, if it goes out it's an indication of psu problems
[00:47] <mfa298> the first psu I tried appeared to work, but I found it didn't go to full clock speed, and kept indicating under-voltage by that led going off
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[01:10] <Oddstr13> how does aurora affect propagation?
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[03:05] <Rob_vk1kw> PS-63 is decoding jt9 1650hz and wspr but graph time not correct - any ideas http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/PS-63
[03:06] <Darkside_> hrm
[03:06] <Darkside_> nope :P
[03:06] <Darkside_> sorry, all the people that would be able to debug this are not awake right now
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[03:08] <Rob_vk1kw> I note that on the HABHUB tracker people are coming and going but time says its hours old
[03:08] <Darkside_> sounds like a timezone thing?
[03:10] <Oddstr13> allways use UTC.
[03:10] <Darkside_> i dont know what mods andy has done to WSJT to make all this work
[03:10] <Darkside_> so i cant tell if, say, a listeners computer clock being out is going to screw things
[03:12] <Darkside_> then again it *is* JT9, so if a listeners clock is out, it shouldnt work
[03:12] <Darkside_> i guess if its out by an hour it might still decode
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[03:32] <Rob_vk1kw> but there are 3 of us decoding I think so our time would only screw one of them but daylight saving gone away too today
[03:33] <Rob_vk1kw> correct gmt time here same 3 pcs
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[03:41] <Rob_vk1kw> last good decode PS-63 jt9 0333z
[03:43] <Rob_vk1kw> jt9 signal going down earlier was -18 now -24
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[03:54] <lz1dev> Rob_vk1kw: data requires that you feed in utc time
[03:54] <lz1dev> so whoever is sending the data, needs to do the proper conversion
[03:54] <Rob_vk1kw> looks like they all died here as daylight saving moved around the globe - did we all change over internationall today?
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[03:55] <Rob_vk1kw> or yesterday?
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[04:02] <Rob_vk1kw> 0352 -24 0.6 1650 @ VK3YT0H93RYEC
[04:03] <Rob_vk1kw> 0353 -23 0.7 1650 @ 1.3H22217LC1G
[04:03] <Rob_vk1kw> 0402 -25 0.6 1650 @ VK3YT0I83QYHC
[04:04] <Rob_vk1kw> no decode on last half last set
[04:06] <Rob_vk1kw> rfi everywhere on spectrum now
[04:06] <Rob_vk1kw> looks like a picket fence
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[04:33] <Rob_vk1kw> no sign of PS-63 balloon here now propagation changed as picket fence arrived
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[05:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB after 0316 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB
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[06:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP9UOB-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-11
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[08:08] <PE2BZ> !flights
[08:08] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03PICO-23 144.251 MHz CTSTIA32/1000 10(ddfe)
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[09:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ5TDW_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ5TDW_chase
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[10:45] <jakeio> Where do you normally buy your gas for the balloon? And which would you recommend out of hydrogen, helium and methane? I assume helium is most popular as it's inert. I'm not purchasing now, just curious.
[10:47] <arjunnaha> .wiki Balloon Data
[10:47] <SpacenearUS> 03arjunnaha: Wiki page 03balloon_data (guides) - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:balloon_data
[10:47] <SpacenearUS> 03arjunnaha: Wiki page 03projects:picoatlas:picoatlasi - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:picoatlas:picoatlasi?s[]=balloon&amp;s[]=data
[10:48] <arjunnaha> Top page, at the bottom should have a few links
[10:48] <arjunnaha> I usually use http://balloonhelium.co.uk/
[10:49] <daveake> Them or http://www.click4balloons.co.uk/
[10:49] <jakeio> Ah, thanks! Sorry, should've checked the wiki first.
[10:49] <daveake> and to answer the other question, use helium
[10:50] <jakeio> I thought as much.
[10:56] <R34lB0rg> did we have people flying hydrogens balloons in here yet?
[10:57] <daveake> yes, for a long time
[10:57] <R34lB0rg> but mostl not done anymore, right?
[10:58] <daveake> Yes, still done
[10:58] <R34lB0rg> is there a list of foil materials to be used in balloon construction?
[10:58] <daveake> I fly H2 only, except for some flights with schools or whatever where H&S get involved
[10:58] <R34lB0rg> standard emergency blankets are 16g/m2 FYI
[10:59] <R34lB0rg> great to hear because I have also been thinking about using hydrogen - its so much cheaper and easier to get than helium
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[10:59] <R34lB0rg> also less diffusion
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[11:00] <daveake> dunno about "easier" ... in the UK for He you just call any party balloon company; for H2 you need an account with BOC/AP
[11:01] <R34lB0rg> or water + electricity / gallium + aluminum or just the old classic hydrochloric acid and zinc
[11:02] <fsphil> go for it :)
[11:02] Action: R34lB0rg was working in a laboratory
[11:03] <daveake> "easier" :/
[11:03] <fsphil> I did try electrolysis, but was sooo slow
[11:04] <R34lB0rg> you'll need big electrodes with plenty of surface and current
[11:05] <fsphil> I used a mesh thing, can't remember exactly what. Ended up with some H2 and a lot of rust.
[11:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9HFJ-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9HFJ-11
[11:08] <R34lB0rg> an iron electrode is actually a nice way to avoid a hoffman apparatus
[11:09] <R34lB0rg> I'd probably try activated carbon for electrodes and a strong alkaline electrolyte (CaOH_2) to absorb carbon dioxide
[11:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6NVB-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6NVB-11
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[11:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL1NBR-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL1NBR-12
[11:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9PD - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9PD
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[12:47] <fox123_> hi, do you now somebody frequency and mode HB9PD , tnx
[12:50] <R34lB0rg> !dials HB9PD
[12:51] <R34lB0rg> !dial HB9PD
[12:51] <SpacenearUS> 03R34lB0rg: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[12:53] <fox123_> !dials HB9PD
[12:56] <daveake> It's APRS
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[14:15] <{^TIBS01^}> !dials 2e0sgg
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[15:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD8CJT-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD8CJT-11
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[16:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03X0 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=X0
[16:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DO6SOM-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO6SOM-11
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[16:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD8UBG - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD8UBG
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[16:43] <DL7AD> hi
[16:43] <DL7AD> ping fsphil
[16:44] <DL7AD> fsphil: we've successfully implemented the APRS transmission. but we still get error 400 by the server when we send the packets without FEC to it.
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[17:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M6LZY - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M6LZY
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[18:00] <gb73d> https://www.flickr.com/photos/38771997@N06/sets/72157664425584374/with/25940594070/
[18:02] <daveake> Looks familiar :-) http://www.daveakerman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/P1070994-682x1024.jpg
[18:03] <gb73d> kool
[18:03] <gb73d> lol
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[18:42] <amell> who is that?
[18:43] <fsphil> the dish does :)
[18:44] <amell> I have a habamp for sale if anyone is after one.
[18:44] <amell> not sure what its worth, but I dont use it, so is for sale
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[19:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-63 after 0311 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-63
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[19:40] <SpeedEvil> https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3-blogs.mentor.com/robinbornoff/files/2015/10/Mach8_Cow_Top2.png - I love the mach diamonds
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[19:54] <amell> speedevil: got a link to the supporting write up?
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[19:56] <SpeedEvil> https://blogs.mentor.com/robinbornoff/blog/2015/10/12/can-cows-fly-floefd-investigates-part-3-superbly-sonic/
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[20:03] <Ian_> Holy Heifers SpeedEvil :)
[20:03] <amell> Excellent read
[20:04] <SpeedEvil> It's a pity it doesn't properly model the shape - the legs and ears are missing
[20:06] <amell> I suspect the legs and ears will not survive the mach transition in any case.
[20:07] <daey> nah the ears are just perfect. imagine how this guy would perform. http://www.tierinfo.ch/image/tiere/fische/Mola-mola7.jpg
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[20:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 035733025601_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=5733025601_chase
[20:31] <daey> do the internal oscillators in atemgas/pics have issues with cold? Im not talking about drift but not working at all kind of issues
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[20:43] <mfa298> you might need the datasheet for a full answer, but I think they have been used on flights.
[20:44] <mfa298> however clock drift can give interetsing issues (UART going far enough out of spec to corrupts communication with the gps)
[20:47] <daey> mfa298: well in most cases its easy to avoid async protocols. So i dont really mind a completely out of spec clock. (as long as its still fast enough)
[20:49] <R34lB0rg> were there habs using morse code?
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[21:12] <gonzo_> some HF ones have used morse I believe
[21:12] <fsphil> the early UK ones did too
[21:13] <fsphil> before my time
[21:13] <fsphil> dark days indeed (before LED lighting)
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[22:22] <fsphil> http://hackaday.com/2016/04/03/dvb-s-from-a-raspberry-pi-with-no-extra-hardware/
[22:23] <fsphil> needs a filter, but neat
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[22:37] <amell> whats the relationship between wiringpi and gpio ports?
[22:41] <daveake> gpio readall
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[22:42] <amell> what a useful command :)
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[22:43] <DL7AD> fsphil: ping
[22:44] <amell> now i am searching high and low for a case. RPi3+Lora+TFT.
[22:45] <daveake> TFTs use SPI, so be careful with that
[22:45] <fsphil> DL7AD: looking into it now :)
[22:45] Action: DL7AD is exited
[22:47] <Ian_> Excitement is contagious
[22:48] <amell> daveake: even ones that connect to DSI interface?
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[23:11] <daveake> The official one of DSI, and that's fine. All the GPIO ones are SPI
[23:14] <amell> trouble is i cant find one smaller than 7 :(
[23:15] <daveake> Lots of car reversing screens around, 4" roughly, composite video
[23:16] <amell> pi3 doesnt have composite as far as i know
[23:16] <daveake> Of course it does
[23:18] <amell> ah. via the audio jack.
[23:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6NVB-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6NVB-11
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[23:44] <DL7AD> fsphil: thomas now transmit the pictures without FEC
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[23:46] <fsphil> DL7AD: working? just pushed some changes to the server
[23:46] <DL7AD> yes excelet
[23:46] <DL7AD> exelent
[23:49] Action: Ian_ excited for you all too
[23:51] <DL7AD> so the next step will be 9k6 aprs :P
[23:52] <fsphil> http://i.imgur.com/2Th64Ed.jpg
[23:53] <fsphil> 9600 fsk, wonder if the rfm modules can do that
[23:53] <DL7AD> its gfsk
[23:53] <fsphil> they can do gfsk
[23:53] <fsphil> wonder how close the bitrate can get
[23:55] <DL7AD> compared to the initial test which we've done on the first flight, the packet is 73 byte more efficient
[23:55] <DL7AD> its 21%
[23:55] <fsphil> nice!
[23:56] <DL7AD> we think about doing base233 :P
[23:56] <DL7AD> because 128-255 is unused :D
[23:56] <DL7AD> thats even one bit more
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