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[00:21] <Laurenceb_> http://skeletontech.com/150629_Skelcap_Ultracapacitor_Cylindrical.pdf
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[00:39] <Oddstr13> receiving bbc on mw at 800-ish khz with my pocket radio
[00:40] <Oddstr13> bathroom echo, multi path propagation?
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[01:33] <Ian_> Ha ha, I always tried to get much better reception of BBC World Service, way back.
[01:35] <Ian_> Then I was detached to Ascension island where there was a BBC sturba curtain array which relayed the BBC WS signal. I then realised that the signal was basically crap, because that was the quality of the signal being fed to the transmitter.
[01:35] <Ian_> Sad endictment ;)
[01:36] <Ian_> 0ddstr13, it could be that it's not your bathroom after all.
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[05:25] <Vaizki> morning
[05:26] <Vaizki> Ian_, oo Ascension.. how long did you stay there?
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[08:04] <R34lB0rg> http://weather.uwyo.edu/cgi-bin/sounding?region=europe&TYPE=TEXT%3ALIST&YEAR=2016&MONTH=03&FROM=3100&TO=3100&STNM=11035
[08:04] <R34lB0rg> nice!
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[08:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BARC after 037 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC
[08:47] <DutchMillbt> Good morning BARC team in the house?
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[09:32] <Ian_> Vaizki, Just for six months. I was in the RAF at the time. Communications.
[09:33] <Ian_> Just before the airbridge ceased being under strict radio silence for the trip. I had a trip on the Herc tanker - very interesting.
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[09:53] <DutchMillbt> Good morning what is the BARC frequency at the moment?
[09:55] <nigelp> 434.451
[09:55] <DutchMillbt> oke thankz nigelp
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[10:40] <whiteg6> !flights
[10:40] <SpacenearUS> 03whiteg6: Current flights: 03BARC 10(d9fc)
[10:42] <whiteg6> help!
[10:42] <whiteg6> help/
[10:42] <DutchMillbt> yes?
[10:42] <DutchMillbt> can i help you
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[10:43] <whiteg6> Can i check the BARC freq. its almost on top of me and i dont read it
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[10:44] <DutchMillbt> BARC @434.510 Mhz SSB rtty 300bd 8N2 shift 710
[10:46] <DutchMillbt> mind your head ;-) the flight doc is a bit crappy
[10:46] <nigelp> 434.451
[10:48] <whiteg6> Thanks all. I'll do some tweaking
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[11:01] <arjunnaha> Quick question with Eagle, how can I see the size of an element such as a resistor or capacitor, the properties box doesn't have this...
[11:02] <mattbrejza> size as in physical size of the package?
[11:02] <arjunnaha> yes
[11:03] <mattbrejza> you choose it when you place the component on the schematic
[11:03] <mattbrejza> although you can change this with the repalce tool (or whatever its called)
[11:03] <arjunnaha> ah, thanks
[11:04] <arjunnaha> Is there any way to see the physical size of a component currently on the schematic/
[11:05] <mattbrejza> its listed if you view the properties of the part
[11:07] <arjunnaha> I can't see that http://imgur.com/LO8MNLm
[11:09] <mattbrejza> package: 0603-RES
[11:09] <arjunnaha> 0.06" L x 0.03" W
[11:09] <arjunnaha> Got you
[11:09] <arjunnaha> thanks
[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03Legionowo after 0310 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Legionowo
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[11:24] <Haxxa> Hello?
[11:24] <SpeedEvil> is this thing on?
[11:24] <Geoff-G8DHE-m> Nah switched it off yesterday
[11:26] <SpeedEvil> :/
[11:26] <SpeedEvil> RIP Ronnie Corbett.
[11:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6NVB-11 after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6NVB-11
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[11:56] <Ian_> BARC in the trees, hoping there isn't too much leaf cover at the moment.
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[12:02] <fsphil> BARC up the wrong tree?
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[12:14] <Ian_> There were still flight doc issues I understand?
[12:15] <DL7AD1> good afternoon
[12:16] Nick change: DL7AD1 -> DL7AD
[12:16] <DL7AD> fsphil: could you do something for me? :P
[12:16] <edmoore> Bit off more than in could barc or.... I don't know some sort of weak fibgerlift towards a pun.
[12:16] <Ian_> Good afternoon DL7AD
[12:16] <DL7AD> hi Ian_
[12:17] <DL7AD> fsphil: i've implemented base91 for the images and CRC and FEC does not get transmitted anymore on the APRS packets. is it possible to implement a "NON-FEC-CRC" flag on the server?
[12:18] <DL7AD> so i can send the packets to the server without FEC and CRC?
[12:21] <Upu> given I can still see BARC on the waterfall I suspect its in a tree
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[12:21] <Upu> and then i looked at the map
[12:24] <Ian_> Bit of a needle in a haystack?
[12:25] <fsphil> DL7AD: better if I just auto detect 224 byte packets
[12:25] <fsphil> but I still require the CRC :p
[12:26] <DL7AD> fsphil: okay sure. calculating the CRC is easy
[12:27] <fsphil> yeah. I realise it's probably a bit silly adding a CRC after reception, but I'd prefer that than having more packet types
[12:27] <DL7AD> fsphil: what packet type would that be?
[12:27] <DL7AD> 206bytes payload without FEC?
[12:28] <DL7AD> 0x66 or 0x67?
[12:29] <fsphil> which are you sending? I may be confused
[12:29] <fsphil> I was thinking of the normal FEC packet, but without the last 32 bytes
[12:29] <fsphil> so your packet is then 224 bytes long
[12:30] <DL7AD> yes but the payload is only 205 isn't it?
[12:30] <DL7AD> i will send the whole packet.....
[12:31] <DL7AD> without FEC
[12:31] <fsphil> yes but that's useless on its own
[12:31] <fsphil> (most of) the headers are required
[12:31] <DL7AD> yes i will send 224 to you
[12:32] <DL7AD> (or thomas will)
[12:32] <DL7AD> the tracker itself only send 219 bytes
[12:32] <gonzo_> And it's goodbye, from him !
[12:32] <Ian_> :)
[12:33] <DL7AD> fsphil: but which packet type do you expect for these packets?
[12:34] <fsphil> DL7AD: 0x66 .. at the moment it must be 224 + 32 bytes, I'll add an option for just the 224 and no FEC
[12:35] <DL7AD> thanks
[12:36] <Matt_PrjHet> Hey all, here's some footage from the PrjHeT launch 19/3/16. Thanks to all who tracked it :)
[12:36] <Matt_PrjHet> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGirnf3TlGQ
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[12:49] <arjunnaha> Out of these, which is most suitable for a tracker...http://www.digikey.co.uk/product-search/en/connectors-interconnects/coaxial-connectors-rf/1443098?FV=700a68%2Cc840018%2C19d00003%2Cfff40016%2Cfff8051a&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=1000011&page=1&stock=0&pbfree=0&rohs=0&k=sma+edge&quantity=&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25
[12:50] <arjunnaha> On the balloon
[12:52] <mattbrejza> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231854063251
[12:52] <mattbrejza> for mounting on the pcb
[12:55] <edmoore> arjunnaha: if you're in the uk you might find RS and Farnell easier to deal with
[12:57] <arjunnaha> edmoore: I've found DigiKey quite nice so far
[12:58] <edmoore> you've ordered from them?
[12:59] <arjunnaha> Not yet, but the online site and the telephone support has been good (so far...)
[13:02] <arjunnaha> I'm open to suggestions though, everyone here probably has a lot more experience
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[13:22] <arjunnaha> Right screwed DigiKey, gone Farnell
[13:23] <arjunnaha> Would it be wise to stick to one manufacturer for passive components?
[13:24] <mattbrejza> for resistors and similar just sort by price on farnell and choose the cheapest that meets your specs
[13:24] <arjunnaha> Also, should I be looking at a min temp value?
[13:26] <mattbrejza> well for stuff like crystals and batteries yea, not so much for resistors and caps unless its a precision component
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[15:40] <BV2DQ> bv2dq-13 balloon launched on yesterday from Taiwan start to flight heading to east. Hope can help to find it if anyone find it still alive
[15:41] <BV2DQ> anyone living in Hawaii?
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[15:50] <nick_> I wish I lived in Hawaii.
[15:51] Action: nick_ could happily snorkle in the Kapoho tide pools every morning.
[15:55] <Vaizki> BV2DQ: it seems to be an APRS balloon? so it will pop up on aprs.fi when it is heard by someone again...
[15:56] <Vaizki> not seens since it crossed the coast of taiwan.. http://aprs.fi/static/a/BV2DQ-13
[16:00] <Laurenceb_> 10.3km, a nice float altitude
[16:00] <Laurenceb_> likely to avoid rainclouds
[16:05] <Geoff-G8DHE-lapt> !APRS
[16:09] Nick change: michal_f -> michal_f_wrk
[16:11] <arjunnaha> ping daveake
[16:33] <BV2DQ> actually, I have received the last message pass longitude 123E,, there is Japan area but no ground station to relay on 144.66Mhz . the balloon will edge longitude then change frequency
[16:40] <daveake> pong arjunnaha
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[18:14] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 035 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[18:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03sam_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=sam_chase
[18:38] <SM0ULC-Reb> BV2DQ: any more tracking options like hf?
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[19:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[19:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PYSY - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PYSY
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[19:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PYSYchase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PYSYchase
[19:21] <mclane_> Good evening, I am looking for someone who could approve our flight on #habhub
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[19:21] <SM0ULC-Reb> noone acgive in #habhub?
[19:22] <Ian_> Appropriate people should be alon any time soon. They will be finishing their evening meals about now :)
[19:22] <Ian_> That was fast!
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[19:32] <mclane_> yea I forgot that there are 2 h time difference right now - sorry for that
[19:34] <SM0ULC-Reb> well, time of meals differ a lot form north - south.. :)
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[20:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8ELK-1 after 0312 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
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[22:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-1 after 035 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
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[22:43] <n4xwc_Shane> hey!
[22:43] <kj4tdm> hello!
[22:43] <fsphil> ahoy
[22:44] <kj4tdm> help
[22:45] <n4xwc_Shane> Hey yall....we sure have made a mess of the map in N. Alabama and TN!
[22:45] <kj4tdm> So how many balloons are up right now? 3?
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[22:50] <n4xwc_Shane> My chat quit working...4 that I see
[22:50] <n4xwc_Shane> From 402.0 to 404.5
[22:51] <kj4tdm> to many to track!
[22:53] <n4xwc_Shane> Hehe...I know...The map's a mess!
[22:53] <kj4tdm> i think there is a new one in far northwest alabama
[22:54] <n4xwc_Shane> Copying 403.0 one...on it's way down
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[22:54] <kj4tdm> it was there, may have on
[22:54] <kj4tdm> im on 404.5
[22:54] <lz1dev> .aprs find wb8elk-1
[22:54] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03WB8ELK-1 is near 03Coffee County, TN, USA 10(35.43616,-86.0775) at 0320456 meters - 12http://aprs.fi/WB8ELK-1
[22:54] <lz1dev> coffee county ;>
[22:55] <kj4tdm> there maybe more than 1 over there
[22:56] <n4xwc_Shane> LZ1DEV knows how to use this thing! :)
[22:56] <kj4tdm> looks like bill is with me now
[22:56] <n4xwc_Shane> I sure wish I had my automatic antenna rotator online....
[22:56] <kj4tdm> u r home right?
[22:57] <WB8ELK> Going to burn out my rotor tracking all these balloons at once :-)
[22:57] <lz1dev> WB8ELK: why is your balloon teleporting?
[22:57] <kj4tdm> why dont we just get 1 a piece
[22:57] <lz1dev> respect the laws of physics pls
[22:57] <n4xwc_Shane> Haha...me too Bill....getting my $40 worth out of that hamfest special!
[22:58] <WB8ELK> I'll track that one from MS
[22:58] <WB8ELK> Think they are trying to get data on that nasty thunderstorm in TN
[22:59] <n4xwc_Shane> All of ours are! Actually there is a severe weather event going on and they have launched, what Bill, a dozen or more
[22:59] <n4xwc_Shane> This afternoon?
[22:59] <WB8ELK> We are tracking 5 balloons launched from different locations
[22:59] <WB8ELK> probably about a dozen balloons so far.
[23:00] <kj4tdm> tornado watch till 1am
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[23:00] <kj4tdm> is anyone on the 404.0 balloon?
[23:01] <WB8ELK> I'm on 405.5 just found one there
[23:02] <n4xwc_Shane> I'm on 403
[23:02] <kj4tdm> shane which one r u on?
[23:02] <n4xwc_Shane> 403...losing it
[23:02] <kj4tdm> go to 404
[23:03] <n4xwc_Shane> Hang on...wanna see how low I can go! I feel like Slim Pickens ridin' em down!
[23:03] <WB8ELK> Yeeee Haaawww
[23:03] <kj4tdm> LNA on?
[23:04] <WB8ELK> I'm going to stay on 405.5 for a bit...its heading right for me.
[23:04] <n4xwc_Shane> You didn't hear...I smoked it! :(
[23:04] <n4xwc_Shane> 405.5?!
[23:04] <WB8ELK> yep...I was surprised to find one there. Think is was launched from MS
[23:05] <kj4tdm> o yea, i forgot
[23:05] <WB8ELK> Its coming down and will probably go right over me on the way down.
[23:06] <kj4tdm> i had to change my Trail tail length to 15 minutes just see whats going on!
[23:06] <n4xwc_Shane> I see a wide-band on 403 now
[23:08] <n4xwc_Shane> Bill, yours is showing 9K feet.
[23:08] <kj4tdm> looks like Bills is going up
[23:09] <WB8ELK> It just launched from Russellville
[23:09] <n4xwc_Shane> Wideband on 403 just launched from hsv
[23:09] <WB8ELK> Cool...maybe its an ozonesonde
[23:10] <kj4tdm> we got some mean looking storms on radar chasing these balloons!
[23:10] <WB8ELK> They just issued a Tornado watch here.
[23:10] <kj4tdm> yep, till 1am
[23:10] <WB8ELK> If the most famous stormchasers start lurking around the area I'm going to find shelter :-)
[23:11] <kj4tdm> whos that?
[23:11] <WB8ELK> They must have a launchsite in Russellville...this is the 2nd or 3rd one that came from there today.
[23:11] <n4xwc_Shane> Looks like they have those mobile radars and all sorts of expensive toys crawling all over up thatta way!
[23:12] <kj4tdm> my ascent rate is 3.3
[23:13] <n4xwc_Shane> Gonna be a He shortage for sure after today!
[23:13] <kj4tdm> sad
[23:15] <n4xwc_Shane> I haven't even been looking at the wx.
[23:15] <kj4tdm> raar dont look good coming out of mississippi
[23:15] <kj4tdm> radar
[23:16] <n4xwc_Shane> NOAA watch/warning map for N. Alabama sure is colorful!
[23:17] <kj4tdm> theres 4 on 401Mhz!
[23:18] <n4xwc_Shane> They need a new Freq. Coordinator!
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03Legionowo after 0311 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Legionowo
[23:20] <WB8ELK> I don't see how they get data from 4 on one frequency. I'm tracking the one on 404 at the moment if you overlay the radar composite you'll see it is just in front of the storms.
[23:22] <n4xwc_Shane> Is it 4 on 404?
[23:22] <n4xwc_Shane> Brian, u monitoring Fire 1?
[23:24] <kj4tdm> am now, whats up?
[23:24] <n4xwc_Shane> 19 just got call, guy lying on side of road coverin blood,...poss suicide.
[23:24] <kj4tdm> wow
[23:25] <kj4tdm> where?
[23:25] <n4xwc_Shane> Glad it's their call and not ours....I'm having too much fun here! :)
[23:26] <kj4tdm> im loosing 404.5!
[23:27] <kj4tdm> i guess i will go to one on 401mhz
[23:28] <kj4tdm> NEVERMIND those we cannot decode!
[23:28] <WB8ELK> There's a tornado in that storm approaching the balloon I'm tracking at the moment at 404 MHz...maybe they'll be able to put a HAB balloon into a tornado.
[23:29] <n4xwc_Shane> Cool! I
[23:29] <n4xwc_Shane> I have solid copy on 404.5
[23:30] <n4xwc_Shane> So Bill....that is just north of HSV?
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[23:30] <WB8ELK> Yep..near Pulaski TN
[23:30] <kj4tdm> i moved to 405.5
[23:31] <WB8ELK> If the tornado catches it, it may end up in Oz
[23:32] <n4xwc_Shane> 406 is another of those weird sounding ones....
[23:33] <kj4tdm> all the ones on 401Mhz are
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[23:37] <WB8ELK> I only hear two balloons now....one at 404 MHz and one at 405.5 I don't hear anything on 403 or 401 MHz
[23:39] <n4xwc_Shane> There is a wideband on 403
[23:39] <kj4tdm> 403
[23:41] <WB8ELK> Don't see a wideband on 403...can you decode it?
[23:42] <kj4tdm> yea i got it
[23:42] <kj4tdm> Shanes on it
[23:43] <n4xwc_Shane> Me too. It's 1/2 way between HSV & CHT
[23:43] <kj4tdm> im back on 405.5
[23:44] <n4xwc_Shane> I'd like to have a good map of all the paths today....
[23:44] <WB8ELK> Looks like a debris ball radar signature at the AL/TN border near Minor Hill TN
[23:45] <n4xwc_Shane> What radar u looking at Bill?
[23:45] <WB8ELK> Or strong hail
[23:45] <WB8ELK> Intellicast and also You Track Storms on Channel 48 Huntsville's website
[23:46] <WB8ELK> Yep...they just displayed a tornado Vortex signature at that spot
[23:46] <WB8ELK> Hah...I beat their weather computer to the punch.
[23:47] <kj4tdm> so are we down to 3 balloons? 2 NFW 1 WFM?
[23:47] <WB8ELK> Mine is coming down on 404 MHz
[23:47] <WB8ELK> Are you decoding the 403 MHz wideband one?
[23:48] <kj4tdm> shane is
[23:48] <WB8ELK> I don't see anything on 403 here...might be local interference there.
[23:48] <WB8ELK> I see that...I'll try again
[23:49] <n4xwc_Shane> I was decoding it...I'm on Bills now...see how my final packet compares to his....too..>Brian, looks like some nastyness coming our way from MS
[23:50] <n4xwc_Shane> On 404 with Bill.
[23:50] <kj4tdm> yep, im wathing it. got 33/40 playing in the background
[23:51] <n4xwc_Shane> My local TV antenna is down.... :(
[23:52] <n4xwc_Shane> Maybe that trash 403 antenna will work! :)
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[23:52] <kj4tdm> stream it online
[23:53] <n4xwc_Shane> good eyedeer
[23:53] <WB8ELK> Yep...bunch of Supercells heading our way in a few hours
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[23:54] <WB8ELK> I had to switch to the RTL cheap dongle to do wideband...decoding it now on 403
[23:54] <n4xwc_Shane> U Smarter'n the avg goat, Brian! :)
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[23:54] <WB8ELK> The FunCube Dongle had trouble on wideband FM
[23:54] <kj4tdm> thats good.....
[23:55] <n4xwc_Shane> I'm gonna see how low I can go on the 404 one.
[23:56] <WB8ELK> Sure don't like the look of that TN tornado about 40 miles north of me. Hook echo and debris all at once. Might be a big one.
[23:56] <kj4tdm> Bill are you on 403 wideband?
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