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[00:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OK1LPD-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OK1LPD-11
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[05:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9SKP after 033 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9SKP
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[07:26] <SM0ULC-Reb> UBSEDS crusing along, nice!
[07:29] <SA6BSS-Mike> -56 brr
[07:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> looks like it will hit Azores il. tomorrow night
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[08:15] <Vaizki> morning
[08:16] <Vaizki> this was me today, only it was coffee... https://www.facebook.com/sam.kalidi/posts/10153791986251622
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[08:19] <jonsowman> haha
[08:22] <SA6BSS-Mike> kiwi sdr up on kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1575992013/kiwisdr-beaglebone-software-defined-radio-sdr-with
[08:22] <Vaizki> uh oh. .I can see problems without opening the URL...
[08:22] <Vaizki> maybe I will open the URL anyway :)
[08:24] <Vaizki> oooo ok I take half of that back, there's an Artix-7
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[08:30] <Vaizki> I'm having a bit of difficulty with the fact that there's a 14bit 65MSPS ADC + FPGA there but the "uplink" to the rest of the world is.. SPI? noo.. gimme GigE on the cape!
[08:33] <Vaizki> A second generation of the board might also include a Gigabit Ethernet PHY and RJ45 since opensource GE MAC FPGA cores are pretty common. This would allow experimentation with full
[08:33] <Vaizki> bandwidth FFT-based SDR techniques as opposed to DDC (the openHPSDR folks are calling this technique "Direct Fourier Conversion" [DFC]  essentially what WebSDR uses)
[08:33] <Vaizki> well they're not blind to it at least.
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[08:57] <AndyEsser> morning
[08:57] <fsphil> moooorn
[08:58] <fsphil> friday. lots of plans for the weekend. hopefully I'll get more than 10% of them done
[08:58] <fsphil> not likely to be honest
[09:00] <AndyEsser> fsphil: fancy fixing my pipe? :)
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[09:06] <fsphil> > /dev/null fixes everything
[09:07] <fsphil> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Devnull.jpg
[09:09] <WillDWork> I've got a mate at BT who piped all Virginmedia traffic to /dev/null once
[09:10] <WillDWork> normal service for them
[09:13] <edmoore> http://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/in-case-of-fire-git-commit-git-push-leave-building.jpg
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[09:16] <edmoore> https://twitter.com/qntm/status/345958575698493440
[09:16] <fsphil> hah
[09:22] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> !flights
[09:22] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: Current flights: 03Pecan SSDV Tracker 10(5ab8), 03UBSEDS14 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(39cd)
[09:22] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Ah I thought Steve was flying today ?
[09:26] <daveake> "probably" :). Maybe tomorrow instead.
[09:26] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Indeed just abou to check predictions
[09:26] <daveake> He doesn't always do a flight doc
[09:26] <AndyEsser> ISH
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[09:27] <daveake> I've put an application in for next Wednesday, to test this 868 ssdv again
[09:28] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Oh good, I'll be ready and have Python3+ installed this time s should be able to uplink if you need it.
[09:28] <daveake> It should be comfortably in range of here till it's landing, but do try downloading
[09:29] <daveake> actually, if you get a decent signal then we could try switching over to you for the uplink
[09:29] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> I will nothing on my calendar so will be around
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[09:42] <SM0ULC-Reb>
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[10:09] <tweetBot> @G7IGB: UK student balloon crosses Pacific: On Thursday, March 17 the UBSEDS14 balloon... https://t.co/tVKM1iNqPp #hamradio #ukhas
[10:11] <SM0ULC-Reb> "Despite the weight constraints the team have managed to employ sophisticated Geofencing technology", heavy code
[10:12] <AndyEsser> hehe
[10:12] <AndyEsser> those bits add up !
[10:12] <craag> I'm far more impressed by the powersaving
[10:13] <craag> -53 degrees and still pulling 1.14V off the battery
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[10:14] <craag> aw it even did a flyby of WB8ELK!
[10:14] Action: cm13g09 waves at richardeoin and the UBSEDS team
[10:15] <craag> and he received telem from it at 0942
[10:15] <craag> that's very cool
[10:15] <cm13g09> craag: I knew Richard at secondary school.... Always knew he'd go far.... wasn't expecting him to go THAT far!
[10:15] <cm13g09> (pun fully intended)
[10:15] <craag> :D
[10:15] <daveake> Now we need these flights to repeat aprs from other balloons
[10:16] <SM0ULC-Reb> daveake: rtl-dongle and lora downlink? :)
[10:16] <daveake> On a pico? Sure :)
[10:16] <SM0ULC-Reb> yeahyeah
[10:16] <craag> With 1xAA, no problem ;)
[10:17] <craag> available for a limited time only...
[10:17] <SM0ULC-Reb> they loooove wx-stations in the us
[10:17] <craag> their wx tends to be more interesting
[10:19] <edmoore> stormhabbing has never really taken off here
[10:19] <edmoore> but it would be fun to make an armoured payload
[10:19] <edmoore> and plunge it right into the guts of a storm cell
[10:20] <craag> The gsm-triggered launch project here at the uni was intended for that
[10:20] <AndyEsser> that'd be cool :)
[10:21] <craag> but armoured!=a polystyrene cup with a nest of wires shoved inside.
[10:21] <edmoore> yes...
[10:21] <edmoore> i think you'd at least want some kind of neoprene wetsuit
[10:21] <edmoore> and perhaps good em shielding
[10:21] <AndyEsser> plastic Tesco bag :)
[10:23] <edmoore> has been used as a parachute on a hab before
[10:23] <AndyEsser> I used a black bag as a parachute out of a tree once...
[10:23] <AndyEsser> didn't work so well
[10:25] <fsphil> needs a hole in the top
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[10:29] <Geoff-G8DHE_> How am I meant to here X0 thru this http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2016_Flights/X0_20160318/Screenshot-2016-03-18-102812.png
[10:33] <Vaizki> :O
[10:33] <Vaizki> that's nasty
[10:34] <Vaizki> btw did you see what the spiffy great new V3 of SDR Console is looking like..
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[10:34] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Yup, and its staying there by the looks of it.#
[10:34] <Vaizki> it looks like sdr#
[10:34] <Geoff-G8DHE_> No I haven't looked at the V3 yet
[10:35] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Oh I hope not :-(
[10:35] <Vaizki> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEZ2RjfQDKA
[10:35] <Vaizki> I don't get it
[10:35] <Vaizki> whyyyy
[10:36] <fsphil> I kinda like sdr#'s interface
[10:36] <Vaizki> oh I have nothing against SDR# and use it a lot but I really liked the window layouting in SDR Console etc and not sure what's happening to it now
[10:36] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Oh not that bad its just the layout he's used
[10:36] <Geoff-G8DHE_> normally everything is flexible in SDR Console
[10:37] <Vaizki> yea I know.. may be judging too early but not seeing 4x VFOs etc on there in any videos :)
[10:37] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Gets too confusing for a demo
[10:39] <Vaizki> and I kinda like that it will support nvidia gpus for FFT apparently
[10:39] <Geoff-G8DHE_> yes using that at present on V2
[10:39] <Geoff-G8DHE_> only using 2% of CPU
[10:39] <Vaizki> oh ok didn't know it was available there too
[10:40] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Yup look at the status line CUDA before CPU usage
[10:40] <AndyEsser> I need to get back to reading about FFT
[10:40] <Geoff-G8DHE_> It does say "Rx 1" in the video so suspect the normal 6 will be available
[10:41] <Vaizki> right, I saw Rx 2 in one video
[10:43] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Ah ha QRM cleared
[10:43] <AndyEsser> why am I still listening to this...
[10:43] <AndyEsser> hah
[10:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ARY1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ARY1
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[10:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ARY2T - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ARY2T
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[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Will you be flying today Steve or tomorrow RocketBoy ?
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[11:58] <AndyEsser> http://imgur.com/qji12w0
[11:58] <AndyEsser> Progress!
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[12:01] <michal_f> did you fetch data from habitat ?
[12:01] <AndyEsser> that is from Habitat yes - but it's still a hardcoded flight doc, which I don't want
[12:02] <AndyEsser> I want to query to get a list of flights in the last x number of hours/days etc - then fetch all telemetry for those provided flights
[12:03] <Vaizki> you are quite easily amused and yet more easily distracted :)
[12:03] <AndyEsser> `Squirrel
[12:03] <AndyEsser> this isn't distraction - this was part of my plan all along
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[12:04] <fsphil> cunning
[12:05] <AndyEsser> fsphil: indeed - I shall stick a tail to it
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[13:01] <Vaizki> AndyEsser, umm are you doing that in C btw?
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[13:02] <Vaizki> not that there's anything wrong with C but just thinking if it's python by any chance, why not share some libs on github..
[13:03] <fsphil> my old habhound program had some C code to watch for habhub activity, https://github.com/fsphil/habhound
[13:03] <fsphil> might be out of date by now
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[13:09] <AndyEsser> Vaizki: that particularly screenshot is NodeJS
[13:09] <AndyEsser> the previous Telemetry display screenshots are C
[13:09] <AndyEsser> both will be available on the EAD github page when they actually work
[13:10] <craag> don't write flight computer code in nodejs
[13:10] <craag> people make fun of you it turns out ;)
[13:10] <AndyEsser> It's not Flight software ;)
[13:10] <AndyEsser> I do have another non-HAB related project that uses NodeJS (or rather the V8 engine) as a scripting plugin for a C++ application
[13:11] <x-f> 
[13:11] <craag> I had a successful ssdv payload using nodejs on a pi :)
[13:11] <AndyEsser> On a Pi isn't too bad
[13:11] <AndyEsser> I wouldn't want to port V8 to running on my 8-bit AVRs :P
[13:11] <AndyEsser> "battery is using 10K identify resistance, and not a NTC"
[13:11] <AndyEsser> thanks....
[13:12] <AndyEsser> I presume this means the batteries internal thermistor is 10k
[13:12] <edmoore> i think x-f wins the award for the amount of meaning per character on irc
[13:13] <craag> AndyEsser: Might not be a thermistor - could be they use a resistor to identify the battery size
[13:13] Action: fsphil quietly rm -rf's payload_php
[13:13] <AndyEsser> craag: they go on to say "the resistance variation temperature is 0°C to +45°C"
[13:13] <AndyEsser> so I'm guessing it is :)
[13:13] <AndyEsser> fsphil: :)
[13:13] <craag> ah
[13:13] <craag> fair enough
[13:14] <x-f> i'm sorry for being so laconic, i activated the wrong window
[13:14] <AndyEsser> x-f: it was amusing timing :)
[13:14] <x-f> just a coincidence :)
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[13:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K4UAH-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K4UAH-12
[13:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9SKP after 038 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9SKP
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[13:59] <AndyEsser> fsphil: habhound?
[13:59] <AndyEsser> sniffs out habs?
[14:00] <daveake> Specially trained dogs for chasing habs
[14:00] <daveake> Every chase car should have one
[14:00] <AndyEsser> ha
[14:00] <AndyEsser> I wish :(
[14:00] <fsphil> don't take them near birthday parties
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[14:00] <Sparks> rarousse: I R Here 2
[14:01] <rarousse> just spotted AD6AM-11 here over NC
[14:01] <rarousse> k Sparks
[14:15] <Vaizki> rarousse: that's UBSEDS14 for us :)
[14:16] <rarousse> cool thx
[14:19] <edmoore> ad6am (adamgreig) is lending them his callsign for the US overflight
[14:19] <edmoore> to comply with local thingamies
[14:20] <rarousse> heh
[14:27] <craag> rarousse: If you haven't seen it: http://www.bristol-seds.co.uk/hab/flight/2016/03/07/ubseds14.html
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[14:32] <Sparks> How long is UBSEDS14 expected to be up?
[14:41] <Ian_> I don't know about a HABhound, but this little guy could come in handy at times http://dreambigliveboldly.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/capuchin-monkey.jpg
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[14:44] <fab4space> hello all
[14:44] <fab4space> has anybody on this channel participated as a ham to an ARISS contact with a school?
[14:44] <craag> yes
[14:44] <AndyEsser> that's just weird
[14:44] <AndyEsser> ....
[14:44] <fab4space> yess
[14:45] <AndyEsser> I'm literally watching a video about ARISS
[14:45] <fab4space> lol
[14:45] <fab4space> I'm just about to prepare a submission for ARISS contact with the school of my son in France
[14:45] <fab4space> craag, you have already done it?
[14:45] <craag> cool :)
[14:46] <craag> I'm on the ariss-uk operations team
[14:46] <rarousse> UBSEDS14 has cleared the coastline of NC
[14:46] <fab4space> they are highly motivated to do it
[14:46] <fab4space> craag this is nice :)
[14:46] <fab4space> I was wondering about the ground station requirement
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[14:47] <craag> So in the UK we supply all the ground station
[14:47] <fab4space> I plan to set it up myself
[14:47] <fab4space> and I have one year to prepare :)
[14:47] <fab4space> my a team of other hams
[14:47] <fab4space> with a team of other hams
[14:48] <craag> Hmm ok, we wouldn't allow that. I don't know how much ariss-fr do it though.
[14:48] <fab4space> I have seen the ground stations requirements
[14:49] <fab4space> I would be interested to know the transceivers, antenna rotators and antennas that are used in your setup
[14:49] <fab4space> I planned to use a satnogs antenna rotator
[14:49] <fab4space> with a 2x9 yagi circular polarity
[14:49] <fab4space> and a 50/100W transceiver
[14:49] <AndyEsser> craag: sorry to butt in - how come you would allow the use of personal equipment?
[14:49] <craag> Have a look at my ariss albums at https://www.flickr.com/photos/136170654@N05/albums
[14:50] <AndyEsser> woudln't*(
[14:50] <craag> We put a lot of effort into making 99.9% sure that everything will work.
[14:50] <fab4space> yes that's my goal too
[14:50] <fab4space> with the local radio amateur club
[14:51] <craag> It reflects badly on us if it doesn't.
[14:51] <craag> (and ariss generally)
[14:51] <AndyEsser> Ah gotcha
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[14:52] <fab4space> I you want to visit south of France craag you are welcome :)
[14:52] <craag> Is this the 3d-printed satnogs thing fab4space ?
[14:52] <fab4space> yes craag however I'm not sure about the reliability of this setup
[14:52] <craag> I would strongly discourage that
[14:52] <craag> It apparently has a habit of falling apart
[14:52] <craag> Isn't really designed for large setups
[14:52] <AndyEsser> Was the Norwich event at Epic Studio?
[14:53] <craag> AndyEsser: All are at the schools
[14:53] <fab4space> ok thanks for this tip craag
[14:53] <fab4space> on https://www.flickr.com/photos/136170654@N05/25329560770/in/album-72157665454018862/
[14:53] <craag> we use a g-5500
[14:53] <fab4space> I can see the transceiver
[14:53] <craag> yep
[14:53] <craag> ts-2000
[14:53] <fab4space> that's nice since I was expecting to use this one too
[14:54] <fab4space> what is your backup transceiver?
[14:54] <craag> there's another ts-2000 from a different batch down the side of the desk
[14:54] <R34lB0rg> T-1000
[14:54] <fab4space> what power are you using for vhf? 100W?
[14:55] <craag> 200W from a PA
[14:55] <fab4space> ok
[14:55] <fab4space> in France the limit is 120W for VHF
[14:55] <craag> It is overkill, but makes sure tim can hear us perfectly even on the low angles.
[14:56] <craag> I can't officially comment, but I'm sure 50W or 100W would be adequate
[14:56] <fab4space> ok thanks :)
[14:56] <fab4space> and about the tracking software
[14:56] <fab4space> are you using gpredict?
[14:57] <craag> I'm afraid I don't know about that, as my role is IP networking and Venue audio.
[14:57] <fab4space> ok
[14:57] <craag> I know they use a couple of windows based tools.
[14:58] <craag> with the g6lvb interface you see there
[14:58] <fab4space> ok
[14:58] <craag> This is my workstation :) https://www.flickr.com/photos/136170654@N05/25506558512/in/album-72157665454018862/
[14:59] <fab4space> wow impressive audio setup :)
[14:59] <craag> We've gone a step further and live stream the whole event
[14:59] <craag> often to >1500 people
[14:59] <craag> hence the audio and video production kit that dwarfs the rf kit :P
[15:00] <fab4space> lol
[15:01] <craag> have you talked to ariss at all yet?
[15:02] <fab4space> yes , I have talked to arriss-fr
[15:03] <craag> :)
[15:03] <fab4space> we have 3 weeks to prepare the submission
[15:03] <craag> excellent
[15:04] <fab4space> we are preparing the setup for following these recommandations: http://www.ariss.org/uploads/1/9/6/8/19681527/ariss_ground_station.pdf
[15:04] <fab4space> the contact then may be in 12months
[15:04] <fab4space> If the project is accepted
[15:04] <craag> lol 14 element yagi
[15:05] <craag> we've been using a 6-ele
[15:06] <craag> sounds like you've pretty much got it all in hand
[15:06] <craag> we in the UK have decided to go all out on a lot of things that you needn't worry about
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[15:07] <craag> You can watch our contacts at: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQS-yDk7PdE9cRv4MNu8pCw
[15:07] <fab4space> thanks craag for all this info!
[15:07] <fab4space> can I contact you again beginning of next week if I have more questions?
[15:08] <craag> yep sure
[15:08] <fab4space> many thanks :)
[15:09] <fab4space> what is nice is that I was starting to see how to use your habitat to pstrotator software to control my next hab yagi 868antenna
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[15:09] <craag> :)
[15:09] <fab4space> and the idea about ARISS contact proposal for the school emerged from that :)
[15:09] <craag> awesome
[15:09] <fab4space> you are awesome :)
[15:10] <craag> by the way, when we were filtering applications, the big factor was the effort put into the curriculum for science and engineering around the event
[15:10] <craag> so a lot of the schools have made it a 'space-week'
[15:10] <fab4space> this is the video of the ISS I have taken beginning of this year using my telescope and manual tracking by hand:
[15:10] <fab4space> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Vu7ojZC_w
[15:10] <craag> getting local radio clubs in to do kit buildathins
[15:10] <fab4space> using a Nikon D5100
[15:11] <thearduinoguy> fab4space: thats incredible detail
[15:11] <fab4space> I have taken 700 pictures
[15:11] <fab4space> 4 per seconds
[15:11] <thearduinoguy> Did you use a large aperture Celestron by any chance?
[15:11] <fab4space> I used a celestron C8
[15:11] <fab4space> 8 inches
[15:11] <fab4space> the key is to have a large sensor like a DSLR
[15:11] <craag> building anticipation up the contact itself, and then carrying the momentum and excitement forward with the kids
[15:12] <thearduinoguy> thought so. That's the usual tool for ISS. My friend does this also. He has taped a broom handle to the scope to act as a manual guiding tool.
[15:12] <fab4space> ok craag we will focus on the educationnal aspect in the coming weeks for the preparation
[15:12] <craag> that's a really good video fab4space
[15:12] <fab4space> thanks craag :)
[15:12] <craag> yep good plan
[15:13] <fab4space> One day I will try to image the ISS with my home made 355mm telescope
[15:13] <fab4space> but that's more challenging
[15:13] <craag> some of our recordings on there have presentations by the schools on what they've done
[15:13] <craag> worth a watch
[15:13] <SpeedEvil> http://imgur.com/gallery/9I455Yk - how roombas are made.
[15:14] <fab4space> ok craag I will watch all of them that will help us a lot , many thanks !
[15:15] <fab4space> that is the scope I have built 5 years ago: http://imgur.com/F2gwbdH
[15:16] <fab4space> it is gonna be difficult to track the ISS with it , but one day I will try ÷)
[15:16] <craag> hah wow
[15:17] <SpeedEvil> oops
[15:17] <SpeedEvil> stupid paste
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[15:23] <fab4space> craag, on https://www.flickr.com/photos/136170654@N05/24994792604/in/album-72157665454018862/
[15:24] <fab4space> is it the 2 antennas you are using: the principal andthe backup for audio contact?
[15:24] <craag> The primary one that we've used for every contact is on the left
[15:24] <craag> wimo x-quad
[15:25] <craag> we were comparing it with a standard crossed yagi academically :)
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[15:25] <craag> x-quad seemed better at odd polarisations, longer yagi of course had better signal on the low elevations - but not much between them.
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[15:26] <fab4space> ok, I guess you are using also a preamp and a polarity controller?
[15:27] <craag> yes preamp on both
[15:27] <craag> polarity switcher on the x-quad, crossed was hardwired CP
[15:28] <fab4space> ok , what polarity did you used relative to ISS position in the sky?
[15:31] <craag> tbh leaving it on I think RHCP? worked well enough
[15:31] <craag> Carlos like to switch manually between V and H, which does help a tiny bit, but adds more work
[15:32] <craag> The polarisation changes quite a bit, the space segment antenna is a 1/4 wave sticking awkardly out of the side of the columbus module
[15:32] <fab4space> ARISS recommend to use circular polarisation
[15:32] <craag> yes
[15:32] <craag> jsut do that
[15:32] <fab4space> but I'm wondering if we need to switch between RHCP and LHCP ?
[15:33] <fab4space> I'm thinking to use a RHCP antenna
[15:33] <craag> No, just go with it
[15:33] <fab4space> ok
[15:33] <craag> it's a 1/4 wave up there, so it's not actually circular
[15:33] <craag> but being able to receive both V and H with CP is what you want
[15:33] <fab4space> ariss mention that due to ionosphere , it change to a circular polaristion
[15:34] <fab4space> ok
[15:34] <craag> heh ok, not what we've seen.
[15:34] <fab4space> it starts to be clear now
[15:34] <fab4space> so a 2*9Elts yagi LHCP or a wimo x-quad antenna
[15:34] <craag> go with the normal yagi
[15:34] <fab4space> a strong antenna rotator such a the g-5500
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[15:35] <craag> some people will tell you a g-5500 isn't accurate enough - they're wrong
[15:35] <craag> we track s-band with one
[15:35] <fab4space> oh so that 's accurate enough yes :)
[15:35] <fab4space> a preamp
[15:35] <fab4space> a kenwood ts2000
[15:35] <fab4space> and lot lot of preparation
[15:35] <craag> yes
[15:36] <craag> both with the kids, and on the kit side
[15:36] <fab4space> "failure is not an option"
[15:37] <craag> kit side we have a spectrum analyzer running the whole time, antenna analyzer gets plugged in at *every* junction during setup, swr meter is always inline.
[15:37] <fab4space> ok
[15:37] <craag> we also have a remote camera to monitor the antennas
[15:37] <fab4space> that's a good idea craag
[15:37] <craag> so you can check they haven't fallen off, or the rotator failed.
[15:38] <fab4space> I was thinking to have one guy doing that job :p
[15:38] <craag> his neck'll get sore ;)
[15:38] <craag> (we've tried that)
[15:38] <fab4space> poor guy :p
[15:38] <craag> https://www.flickr.com/photos/136170654@N05/25329762430/in/album-72157665454018862/
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[15:39] <craag> on the display on the right: https://www.flickr.com/photos/136170654@N05/25329609120/in/album-72157665454018862/
[15:39] <LunarMobile> I think if the antenna falls off, that would be quite bad
[15:39] <LunarMobile> ;)
[15:39] <craag> yes it would
[15:40] <craag> but at the last one we set up the day before
[15:40] <craag> turned up in the morning
[15:40] <craag> and one of the antennas was pointing down
[15:40] <craag> (clamp had slipped)
[15:40] <craag> so that's more what I mean ;)
[15:41] <fab4space> wow
[15:41] <AndyEsser> craag: I'm no expert - but imagine that's not quite right
[15:41] <craag> lol nope
[15:41] <craag> much amusment
[15:41] <fab4space> for the doppler shift are you using predefined channels with 1/2 khz spacing?
[15:42] <craag> I know the satellite prediction software retunes the radio automatically for that
[15:42] <craag> don't know more
[15:42] <fab4space> ok
[15:42] <craag> I can find out the software if it's useful
[15:42] <fab4space> ariss recommend to do it manually because of potenital software issues :p
[15:43] <craag> yeah that's probably a good idea
[15:43] <craag> we have carlos who has years of experience of doing it manually
[15:43] <fab4space> how many are you ?
[15:44] <russss> I've done the doppler stuff with gpredict quite successfully
[15:46] <fab4space> one last question for today craag :p do you know the model of the preamplifier you are using?
[15:49] <craag> fab4space: It's one of the massively pricey ssb electronic ones I believe
[15:50] <fab4space> ok thanks craag !
[15:50] <craag> and we are 8, 4 VHF, 2 s-band (HamTV), 2 av production.
[15:51] <fab4space> Ok, I need to find ham friends close to me :p
[15:51] <craag> by watching the videos you'll see the dynamic within the vhf
[15:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
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[15:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[16:27] <fab4space> ok craag I will watch all of them thanks!!!
[16:27] <craag> there's some where we failed a bit on the av production
[16:27] <craag> others where the venue failed to have any lights
[16:27] <craag> it's fun :)
[16:28] <fab4space> :)
[16:28] <AndyEsser> how much power do you need?
[16:28] <craag> electrical power?
[16:28] <AndyEsser> yea
[16:28] <fab4space> that's an interesting question yes :)
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[16:29] <craag> erm a couple of amps maybe? most is the laptops and video production PC tbh, so not to worry about fab4space
[16:29] <AndyEsser> 1 4-way extension then :P
[16:29] <AndyEsser> hehe
[16:29] <fab4space> ok
[16:29] <craag> hah, soooo many accessories
[16:29] <craag> but little things
[16:30] <craag> we blew the breaker at the last place switching hte audio amp on while they were vacuumming
[16:30] <craag> the breaker for every socket in the building :)
[16:30] <AndyEsser> ha
[16:30] <AndyEsser> my old house, I couldn't have the hoover and the lights on at the same time when doing my room
[16:31] <AndyEsser> +in
[16:32] <Ian_> Never got vacuumed in the winter eh?
[16:32] <AndyEsser> I was a teenage - it was lucky to get vacuumed once a year ;)
[16:32] <AndyEsser> teenager*
[16:33] <fsphil> that sucks
[16:33] <fsphil> or rather, it doesn't
[16:33] <AndyEsser> And now I just have it so the dishwasher trips the whole house
[16:33] <AndyEsser> have to go back to "manual" dish washing
[16:33] <AndyEsser> so tedious
[16:33] <fsphil> urg
[16:34] <fsphil> only recently got a dishwasher. wish I'd got one years ago
[16:35] <daveake> Now you'll need more plates and cutlery, because what you have now will usually be inside the dishwasher
[16:35] <AndyEsser> heh
[16:35] <fsphil> already done the "ah it'll do until tomorrow" thing
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[16:37] <Vaizki> I run 2 loads of dishes per day...
[16:37] <AndyEsser> good lor man
[16:37] <AndyEsser> are you feeding the 5 thousand?!
[16:37] <Vaizki> kids and cooking fanatics = loads of dishes :)
[16:39] <LunarMobile> I saw a video about cooking with the dishwashers
[16:41] <AndyEsser> note to self... BARC is a bad example flight document to query from habitat for the previous 12 months...
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[16:42] <LunarMobile2> https://youtu.be/JMojc-lXnvs
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[16:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SecondSun - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SecondSun
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[17:00] <Vaizki> LunarMobile: tried it, waste of time :)
[17:01] <Vaizki> besides, I have a real sous vide...
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[17:05] <SQ7HJL> ARY2T gdzie nadajesz?
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[17:20] <LunarMobile2> Sounds good vaizki
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[20:41] <MattProjectHet> c8a828d5a4651b11cb45e6a8a3b27550
[20:41] <MattProjectHet> Evening all, approving flight documents, that is done on here isn't it?
[20:44] <daveake> #habhub
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[20:46] <MattProjectHet> Woo-hoo! Thanks daveake
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[21:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CHANGEME - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHANGEME
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[21:44] <MattProjectHet> Can someone OK my launch announcement on the forum? :)
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[23:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ARY2T after 037 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ARY2T
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[23:43] <Matt_PrjHet> I've just had a sudden rush of last minute nerves... what's the chances of a fogged/moisture covered lens if we launch through thick cloud?
[23:43] <Matt_PrjHet> We had a bright sunny day before.
[23:45] <fsphil> the heat of the camera usually gets rid of any moisture
[23:45] <fsphil> *assuming no window in front of the camera
[23:46] <Matt_PrjHet> Ah good stuff :) One GoPro Hero (case is part of it) one hero3 (no case.)
[23:46] <fsphil> the case might be your only issue
[23:47] <fsphil> they have been known to fog up. but not always
[23:51] <Matt_PrjHet> Cheers fsphil. Checklist all done and off to bed with fingers crossed.
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