highaltitude.log.20160312

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[06:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Hs1skq_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Hs1skq_chase
[06:38] <garymortimer> morning all, coffee ready to watch this mornings flights
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[06:52] <MarkIreland> Remind me - does the live predictor on tracker.habhub auto update based on the actual ascent rate post-launch?
[06:59] <MarkIreland> Or does it just pick 5 m/s ?
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[07:22] <daveake> Actual rate, but burst altitude is unknown so it assumes 30km (I think).
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[07:36] <MarkIreland> Thanks daveake
[07:36] <MarkIreland> That will be about right anyway so thats good
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[07:39] <SM0ULC-Reb> the UON1b go?
[07:39] <daveake> It can be adjusted - I've asked for that to be done during some of my flights
[07:50] <MarkIreland> Ah ok thats good to know too
[07:50] <MarkIreland> Will be heading up the launch site shortly
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[08:23] <hkLo1> has anybody successfully used the mobius camera in the stratosphere (https://www.mobius-actioncam.com) any more energy efficient alternatives?
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[08:35] <MarkIreland> Ok at launch site
[08:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP9SKP - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9SKP
[08:42] <jcoxon> good luck with your flight MarkIreland
[08:45] <SpeedEvil> Good luck.
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[09:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SD4 after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SD4
[09:15] <SM0ULC-Reb> It's alive
[09:16] <tweetBot> @stratodean: Tracker on #ukhas #stratodean4 https://t.co/lDMzerBYtb
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[09:27] <SM0ULC-Reb> Anybode else seeing SD chasecar on the map? Not seeing...
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[09:47] <Upu> !dial SD4
[09:47] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Latest dials for 03STRATODEAN Four 10(bef4): none
[09:59] <Upu> !dial SD4
[09:59] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Latest dials for 03STRATODEAN Four 10(bef4): none
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[10:01] <tweetBot> @stratodean: We are off #ukhas #stratodean4 https://t.co/o7QhSHARCG
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[10:05] <SM0ULC-Reb> pretty calm winds
[10:05] <Upu> 434.075 I think
[10:06] <MarkIreland> hey guys
[10:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> Morning waiting for it to rise over the local horizon
[10:07] <MarkIreland> chasing now
[10:07] <g8fjg> 434.071 for 1khz centre
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[10:09] <Geoff-G8DHE> just appearing on my wf
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[10:10] <DL7AD> morning
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[10:12] <PE2G> !flights
[10:12] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2G: Current flights: 03STRATODEAN Four 10(bef4), 03UON1b 10(02cb), 03UON1 10(8294), 03UBSEDS14 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(39cd)
[10:12] Nick change: junderwood -> M0JCU
[10:12] <PE2G> !dial bef4
[10:12] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2G: Latest dials for 03STRATODEAN Four 10(bef4): 03434.070915 MHz, 434.07173 MHz, 434.071193 MHz, 434.64117 MHz
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[10:12] <tweetBot> @AmsatUK: SD4 transmits FSK 434.075 MHz USB. Real-time track at https://t.co/RPauat78TO #amsat #hamradio #hamr https://t.co/rVz5dnd5QT
[10:13] <g8fjg> right in the middle of this http://imgur.com/pstDKvM
[10:14] <Upu> yeah its not a good frequency
[10:14] <SM0ULC-Reb> :/
[10:14] <Upu> can see it clearly
[10:15] <g8fjg> I.ve put some tight filtering on ...its ok now
[10:15] <Upu> getting nearly full decodes each time but at least one QRM per TX so no decodes
[10:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> just got a green!
[10:16] <mfa298> should've thought to check windows updates / radio setup last night. already nice and strong by the time I had stuff going
[10:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> drifting low a bit
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[10:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BENNY_1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BENNY_1
[10:24] <Upu> SDRSharp's Noise blanker doing its thang
[10:25] <garymortimer> AH towards my parents in Somerset hooray! I do know the pubs!
[10:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MJR001_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MJR001_chase
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[10:29] <garymortimer> SD4 is towards now sadly closed, The Quiet Woman, http://www.darkdorset.co.uk/quiet_woman
[10:30] <garymortimer> Down the M4 and Taunton would be my route of choice...
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[10:31] <mfa298> A37 isn't a bad road either (used to live near yeovil and thats the route we took to bath/bristol)
[10:32] <garymortimer> The valleys to the East of where its going are full of signs like this on bridges http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-dorset-sign-warning-any-person-wilfully-injuring-any-part-of-this-27297040.html
[10:32] <garymortimer> East of landing I should have said
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[10:34] <Geoff-G8DHE> following prediction quite well
[10:34] <mfa298> wooo, old school drifty ntx2 :)
[10:34] <pb0ahx> !flights
[10:34] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03STRATODEAN Four 10(bef4), 03UON1b 10(02cb), 03UON1 10(8294), 03UBSEDS14 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(39cd)
[10:35] <pb0ahx> !dail bef4
[10:35] <pb0ahx> !dial bef4
[10:35] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Latest dials for 03STRATODEAN Four 10(bef4): 03434.070177 MHz, 434.0716 MHz, 434.070835 MHz, 434.070179 MHz, 433.5 MHz, 434.070198 MHz, 434.07 MHz, 434.070219 MHz, 434.07183 MHz, 434.070915 MHz, 434.64117 MHz, 434.070463 MHz, 434.070282 MHz
[10:35] <mfa298> if it's heading for the cerne abbas giant it might be more cream teas than pubs
[10:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NEV666_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NEV666_chase
[10:37] <garymortimer> That smallet pub in UK shut as well did'nt it by Cerne?
[10:38] <garymortimer> There used to be a place down there where if you could drink three pints of the local wheat beer you would drink the rest of the night free
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[10:40] <garymortimer> This place, http://www.freefoto.com/preview/1012-14-1/Britain-s-smallest-pub--Godmanstone don't think its there. BBC world service used to on the top at Rampisham as well
[10:40] <pb0ahx> GM all
[10:40] <garymortimer> maybe they still are
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[10:43] <MarkIreland> How's the signal for everyone?
[10:43] <MarkIreland> Looks like we have a few trackers - thanks as always!
[10:44] <mfa298> MarkIreland: nice and strong here although a bit drifty (I guessing its an original ntx2 rather than the ntx2b)
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[10:44] <pb0ahx> MarkIreland, signaal here is good but drifting a litlke
[10:44] <bertrik> I hope we can get the tracker at our hackerspace (the hague, netherlands) up and running again
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[10:45] <MarkIrel_> Yeah its an old NTX2 so yeah it may drift - will upgrade before next launch
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[10:48] <pb0ahx> lot of qrm on the frequentie on SD4
[10:48] <mfa298> MarkIrel_: makes it more fun :) - I'm now wondering where the usb serial dongle is so I can get the radio auto tuning again
[10:51] <garymortimer> Don't duck through Ilminster to Crewkerne and the hills big road works in Ilminster at the minute
[10:55] <MarkIrel_> OK thanks garymortimer
[10:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SDEAN_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SDEAN_chase
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[10:57] <garymortimer> Best scoot around on the bypass then into Crewkerne if favours that route
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[10:58] <garymortimer> The only reason I know about those sat in RSA is my folks live just outside of Ilminster the old man is G4OXR although I doubt he is on air http://www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk/news/14304727.EIGHT_drivers_summoned_to_court_after_driving_through_Ilminster_roadworks/?ref=mr&lp=16
[10:59] <MarkIrel_> Ah great well is is good to know thanks
[11:01] <garymortimer> The prediction is backing up, must have seen Yeovilton
[11:09] <PE2G> !dial bef4
[11:09] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2G: Latest dials for 03STRATODEAN Four 10(bef4): 03434.068392 MHz, 434.068459 MHz, 434.069139 MHz, 434.06755 MHz, 434.068707 MHz, 434.0682 MHz, 433.5 MHz, 434.069 MHz, 434.64117 MHz, 0.006 MHz
[11:09] <pb0ahx> PE2G, 434.070
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[11:11] <garymortimer> Nev is in the service station
[11:11] <PE2G> Tnx pb0ahx. Traces now
[11:12] <mfa298> that areas changed a fair bit since I lived there, used to just be a bus depot there.
[11:12] <S_Cassie> Nev's a little peckish
[11:13] <mfa298> just down from where they do all the Haynes car manuals.
[11:17] <garymortimer> I think I would be in the Catash ;-) At Cadbury, camelot castle there you know
[11:17] <SM0ULC-Reb> Perfect placed chasecar :)
[11:18] <mfa298> 'tis the real camelot.
[11:18] <mfa298> some good cheese from there as well
[11:18] <garymortimer> Indeed!
[11:19] <SM0ULC-Reb> Rather weak signal at suws?
[11:19] <garymortimer> Walked up there plenty of times, if you dont knwo what we are on about look at the sat view and you can see the hill fort west of landing
[11:19] <mfa298> one good one used to be only sold at the local shop in North Cadbury and Harrods.
[11:20] <garymortimer> Also just outside of discworld http://www.discworldemporium.com/ took my eldest there when we were in UK in 2014
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[11:21] <garymortimer> If that way inclined I guess The Mended Drum would be the pub to visit http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-31984861
[11:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> https://www.360cities.net/image/discworld-consulate-wincanton-england-uk
[11:23] <mfa298> damn, why didn't I know about that, Wincanton used to be my local radioclub.
[11:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6NVB-11 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6NVB-11
[11:23] <mfa298> then again I wasn't old enough to drink those days
[11:24] <mfa298> bursty ? just went very weak here
[11:25] <mfa298> looks like the altitutudes are dropping, but no full sentence
[11:25] <mfa298> or not. ...
[11:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> not yet still climbing but due anytime ....
[11:26] <mfa298> it seemed to go very weak, and a couple of the altitudes I did get were lower than the previous
[11:30] <garymortimer> humm a quick descent might put it near Yeovilton
[11:31] <garymortimer> Nice flat open ground all around there
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[11:31] <mfa298> nev is in pretty much the right place for whereever it goes
[11:31] <MarkIrel_> BANG
[11:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> Burst!
[11:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> at least massive turbulence
[11:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> and descending
[11:32] <mfa298> going down
[11:37] <pb0ahx> SD4 team mni tnx from delft
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[11:42] <fsphil> heh, just as I get setup
[11:42] <pb0ahx> !flights
[11:42] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03STRATODEAN Four 10(bef4), 03UON1b 10(02cb), 03UON1 10(8294), 03UBSEDS14 434.600 CONTESTIA 16/1000 10(39cd)
[11:43] <pb0ahx> going benny-1 also up today ??
[11:43] <Geoff-G8DHE> Don't think so no NOTAM at that location
[11:43] <pb0ahx> tnx Geoff-G8DHE
[11:44] <pb0ahx> than ik go drink bier on my balkonie
[11:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> :)
[11:45] <garymortimer> Lets hope the parachute works well CAMRA pub at Thornford http://kings-arms-thornford.com/map-and-phone
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[11:57] <hkLo1> dear everybody. is there somebody who knows, why certain vehicles can be searched on tracker.habhub and certain can't (like our solar ballon hkLo1)?
[11:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its there ? http://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=11&qm=All&f=hkLo1&q=hkL*
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[12:00] <hkLo1> wow. thanks. didn't get to work alone ;o(
[12:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its more than a day old so perhaps you only had a few hours selected ?
[12:01] <mfa298> I went to a good pub around that landing position once. Probably in Trent although no idea if its still there / good.
[12:03] <garymortimer> Its the school there that used to make us smirk...
[12:04] <garymortimer> Rose an Crown, has a balloon on the taps in their site image so must be good http://www.theroseandcrowntrent.co.uk/content/about-us
[12:05] Action: mfa298 wonders if they still fly harriers from yeovilton, they liked practicing their turns around that area
[12:06] <garymortimer> No the harriers are retired
[12:07] <mfa298> at least they didn't get stuck on Queen Camel Church with the heaviest peal of 6 bells in the world.
[12:08] <garymortimer> If that swings at low level like the main prediction says it might get the pub. 1 million HAB points
[12:08] <fsphil> hah
[12:08] <garymortimer> slowed right up
[12:09] <garymortimer> the pub is the last building south of the tracking car now
[12:09] <Geoff-G8DHE> Should miss the trees
[12:10] <garymortimer> or even where they are!
[12:10] <mfa298> hmmmm just went to carrier
[12:10] <mfa298> looks like reset
[12:11] <garymortimer> what a pity it went north, being at the pub car park when the balloon lands at the pub, well that would be HAB points off the chart
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[12:11] <SM0ULC-Reb> garymortimer: :)
[12:11] <mfa298> I got a 50.968410,-2.58645 as a partial after reset but it died again before altitude
[12:12] <garymortimer> OIC it saw the railway line
[12:13] <MarkIrel_> tracker keeps resetting for some reason
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[12:13] <mfa298> at a guess it might have been around 650m for that partial, based off the tiem from the previous one
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[12:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> Power lines in that field
[12:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its down
[12:14] <pb0ahx> SD4 good flight and recoverd i think so
[12:14] <mfa298> yay for people on the ground to receive it, better than one time someone landed in that direction
[12:14] <pb0ahx> SD4 team mni tnx for time
[12:15] <mfa298> and if I'd been a bit more organised I might have tracked it from altitudes 1km to 1km.
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[12:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> and the Object Movie ! http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2016_Flights/SD4_20160312/index.php?ind=3
[12:33] <Geoff-G8DHE> UON1 might get a Welsh surprise tomorrow and land in the Bristol channel!
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[12:36] <garymortimer> Tnx SD4 for reminding me of home!
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[13:43] <Evya89> hello everyone. can someone help with calculating the ascent rate of a high altitude balloon? because i'm not sure if i understood correctly what is the difference between gross lift and free lift and where the calculation consider it.
[13:45] <mfa298> Evya89: http://habhub.org/calc/ will do most of the work for you
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[13:47] <mfa298> neck lift is the amount of lift a balloon+ gas volume gives, i.e. if you attach that weight to a balloon filled with that amount of gas it will be neutraly bouyant
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[14:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0HIP-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
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[15:21] <DL7AD> hi
[15:21] <DL7AD> does anybody know which frequency is used for aprs in new zealand?
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[15:33] <richardeoin> DL7AD: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:frequencies is useful
[15:34] <richardeoin> looks like 144.575 for new zealand
[15:34] <DL7AD> richardeoin: yeah sure. i found out that the map is a bit outdated
[15:34] <DL7AD> thailand for example does not use the described frequency
[15:35] <DL7AD> so i assume that other frequencies could be outdated as well
[15:35] <richardeoin> oh okay, I hadn't realised
[15:35] <richardeoin> what frequency does thailand use?
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[15:38] <richardeoin> looks like nz was still using .575 a couple of years ago http://picospace.net/?tag=nz-flight-pico-aprs
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[16:09] <DL7AD> richardeoin: its 144.390.
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[17:41] <Lunar_Lander> evening
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[18:00] <fsphil> ello
[18:01] Nick change: DanielRi1hman -> DanielRichman
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[18:06] <Hiena> Hindsight of the day: The electronic food warmer tray is a must have shop equipment. Preheating PCBs? No problem. Speeding up gluing time? Just set to high. Evaporate solvent from the paint? Drying a freshly pressed rocket engines? On theway...
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[18:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG5LYQ-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5LYQ-11
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[18:15] <DL7AD> fsphil: ello :D
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[18:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Cx8fs_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Cx8fs_chase
[18:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CX8FS-9_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CX8FS-9_chase
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[19:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-1 after 037 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
[19:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> ve3kcl wspr balloon is on its way to Europa, launched yesterday
[19:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://www.qrp-labs.com/ultimate3/ve3kcl-balloons/ve3kcl-s7.html
[19:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> just started picking it up on 30m
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[19:33] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=1c384cf609a247f9bc4dbee987ccc5e685d787d2
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[20:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8ELK-1 after 037 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
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[20:24] <namor__> @garymortimer. yes, er were very lucky. the balloon landed under a power line (luckily low vertical speed ;o)
[20:28] <namor__> @Vaizki thank you for your instant help. we were very lucky to have found it with its blinking leds... unfortunately the camera didn't work ;o(
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[22:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CHANGEME - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHANGEME
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[22:32] <tweetBot> @stratodean: Today we launched @bbcwalesinnov 360 camera into near space - a UK first! Read about it here https://t.co/u3GydNAV6M #ukhas #hab360
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[22:39] <tweetBot> @m4rkireland: Today we launched @bbcwalesinnov 360 camera into near space - a UK first! Read about it here https://t.co/XTdtPyyWvV #ukhas #hab360
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[22:54] <fsphil> second now
[22:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD9DBI-11 after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD9DBI-11
[22:56] <Lunar_Lander> :D
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[23:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03default_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=default_chase
[23:07] <Laurenceb_> The Horizon programme will be transmitted in the UK at 20:00 on Wed 23 March. It is called Project Greenglow the search for gravity control.
[23:07] <Laurenceb_> http://img.michaeljacksonspictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/popcorn-blank.gif
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[23:11] <Laurenceb_> featuring input from Fortean times
[23:11] <Laurenceb_> seriously bbc
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[23:20] <fsphil> horizon give up being a serious program a long time ago
[23:20] <fsphil> drinking game, take a drink every time a CGI sequence is repeated
[23:39] <Lunar_Lander> good night :)
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