highaltitude.log.20160305

[00:01] <hosler> can anyone tell me what im seeing here: https://youtu.be/a09TL8n6WNI
[00:02] <hosler> is that radar or something
[00:04] <fsphil> doesn't look familiar
[00:04] <fsphil> looks a bit like very drifty fsk
[00:04] <russss> yeah
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[00:05] <fsphil> try switching to the FM demodulator and record the output, see if you can see data in the waveform (in audacity or similar)
[00:06] <hosler> what does analog data look like
[00:07] <hosler> here is longer video https://youtu.be/pmp-ZsSB1eI
[00:07] <fsphil> here's some FSK I recorded in gqrx, opened in audacity: http://i.imgur.com/odghN3f.png
[00:07] <hosler> wow cool
[00:09] <hosler> http://imgur.com/uh44Mwb
[00:10] <hosler> i dunno
[00:10] <fsphil> try zooming in
[00:11] <hosler> http://imgur.com/vIzLCrO
[00:11] <hosler> doesnt really look like anything
[00:12] <hosler> or most boring binary ever
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[00:12] <fsphil> is it that all the way through?
[00:13] <hosler> yeah pretty much same all the way through
[00:14] <fsphil> 141mhz is outside the amateur band, and I don't think is a license exempt frequency in the us
[00:14] <fsphil> no idea
[00:15] <hosler> i blame aliens
[00:15] <lz1dev> rip stage 1
[00:17] <fsphil> well, it certainly landed
[00:18] <lz1dev> in pieces
[00:18] <fsphil> have they said yet?
[00:19] <fsphil> ah yes they did
[00:19] <fsphil> poor drone ship
[00:20] <lz1dev> they call those landings exprimental
[00:20] <lz1dev> when there is a fairly high chance of the stage smashing into the sea
[00:22] <amell> im pretty sure it missed, the flame was in the wrong place.
[00:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VOPSEN - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VOPSEN
[00:23] <amell> New vehicle on the map: SPACEX - http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SPACEX
[00:23] <fsphil> not sure the tracker will handle 40600km well
[00:23] <lz1dev> are you trying to steal SpacenearUS's job?
[00:24] <amell> where have they said landing failed?
[00:27] <SpeedEvil> they have not officially
[00:27] <amell> where is the unofficial?
[00:27] <SpeedEvil> twitter
[00:29] <amell> An earlier version of this story indicated that, per a tweet from a NASA rocket scientist, the rocket landing had been confirmed. Since that tweet has since been deleted, the article was changed to reflect that.
[00:29] <amell> what did this tweet say? its been deleted
[00:30] <fsphil> didn't see that one
[00:30] <fsphil> but yeah nothing official yet
[00:30] <amell> The first rule about rocket landing attempts is you do not talk about rocket landing attempts
[00:31] <fsphil> they may not know
[00:31] <amell> It sure looked off centre.
[00:32] <amell> Ill be surprised if it did make it
[00:32] <russss> https://twitter.com/MatthewBTravis/status/705908015711518720
[00:32] <russss> nothing official yet
[00:32] <R34lB0rg> I couldn't care less about it beeing centered if it came down in one piece
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[00:36] <amell> Now im getting pissed. did it or didnt it. keeping us waiting
[00:37] <Laurenceb_> heh
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[00:37] <Laurenceb_> R34lB0rg> if it did land but was poorly centered / unstable then thats almost as bad as it crashing
[00:37] <amell> isnt it equivalent?
[00:38] <lz1dev> relax
[00:38] <fsphil> amell: I'm sure they'll be calling you directly at any moment
[00:38] <R34lB0rg> amell, it crashed and was destroyed
[00:38] <lz1dev> they need to provide elon with video to post on vine.co
[00:38] <fsphil> hah
[00:38] <amell> liar pants on fire.
[00:42] <amell> I can only hit reload on a page so many times& cuppa time.
[00:42] <lz1dev> you only need to install auto refresh once
[00:42] <lz1dev> to go down the road of ddos
[00:43] <hosler> soi found an fm radio station in the 900 mhz range
[00:43] <hosler> what is that about
[00:45] <fsphil> it could be a real signal on 900mhz, or an image of one in the fm band
[00:45] <hosler> its saying 105.9
[00:45] <hosler> the dj is saying that
[00:45] <amell> 900 isnt a harmonic of 105.9 is it
[00:46] <Darkside> could also be mixing within the receiver
[00:47] <Darkside> hosler: what receiver are you using? a rtlsdr?
[00:47] <Darkside> another possibility (less likely, but possible) is it's an uplink from a studio to a transmit site
[00:47] <Darkside> but its more likely to be images or mixing
[00:48] <fsphil> I used to hear an uplink for a local station, but they seem to have stopped using that now
[00:48] <fsphil> it wasn't too far from the 70cm band
[00:48] <russss> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/705917924972736512
[00:48] <kc2pit> You can look up those point-to-point links: http://www.fccinfo.com/cmdpro.php?size=M&wd=800
[00:49] <amell> ah well.
[00:49] <SpeedEvil> official tweet 'landed hard on droneship'
[00:49] <amell> in other words it was a f.king fireball of hot rocket
[00:50] <russss> afaik they've never actually missed the drone ship, which is pretty good going
[00:50] <amell> yes, very impressive
[00:50] <SpeedEvil> russss: good point
[00:50] <SpeedEvil> other than waveoffs
[00:50] <russss> ...except for the drone ship I guess :)
[00:51] <amell> this first stage is going at mach 5 when sep, so it really is very impressive.
[00:53] <amell> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riU3DZmU-jE
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[00:59] <hosler> Darkside: yeah
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[01:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7
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[07:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IK8SUT-11 after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IK8SUT-11
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[11:37] <SA6BSS-Mike> Lets see if sp9uob pops up over US today
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[12:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6NVB-11 after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6NVB-11
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[14:17] <Laurenceb_> is there a spacex landing video anywhere?
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[14:52] <russss> Not yet, as far as I'm aware
[14:55] <Laurenceb_> I suspect it missed the barge deliberately, there is a divert manoeuvre in the FAA documentation
[14:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLOONOLO-7
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[15:05] <russss> from the couple of frames of video it looks like it hit the barge
[15:05] <russss> https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/705905020886228994
[15:06] <russss> if that's a divert it's diverted by about 20m
[15:06] <russss> if that
[15:07] <russss> there are rumours that they were flying a different profile for this return anyway, using 3 engines for the landing as opposed to one for some reason
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[15:11] <SpeedEvil> russss: less gravity losses
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[15:12] <russss> yeah, presumably at the expense of even tighter tolerances
[15:13] <fsphil> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcvnD4sWEAAgemR.jpg
[15:13] <SpeedEvil> I don't think there was any credible report of that though
[15:13] <fsphil> said 3 engines on the stream apparently
[15:13] <SpeedEvil> yeah - that's irrelevant
[15:13] <SpeedEvil> the boostback burn always used 3 engines
[15:13] <fsphil> gotcha
[15:13] <SpeedEvil> Or ratehr - unsurprising
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[15:14] <SpeedEvil> Using 3 engines not one for the entry burn makes sense.
[15:15] <SpeedEvil> As they have already normally been lighting three for the boostback burn (skipped this time) - and now have the response of the vehicle to the atmosphere well known
[15:15] <SpeedEvil> they just now slow down rather harder as it approaches max safe Q
[15:19] <russss> I don't know if it's going to be a regular thing or it's just because of the tight propellant budget on this mission
[15:20] <fsphil> good chance to try something, if they already thought it might not make it why not go all out
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[15:24] <Laurenceb_> interesting
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[15:24] <Laurenceb_> dont know how the hell they think they can tell its 3 engines from that blob of light
[15:24] <russss> that's NSF for you
[15:24] <Laurenceb_> lol
[15:24] <russss> they can tell by the pixels
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[15:25] <Laurenceb_> it'd suck if that was the case and they had just screwed up the new firmware, expensive debugging
[15:26] <SpeedEvil> well - ~3 weeks
[15:27] <SpeedEvil> The above posted eurofighter jet came in at only around 500 quid
[15:27] <SpeedEvil> which is damn impressive
[15:27] <russss> well, it's still comparatively inexpensive considering someone else paid for the rocket and the propellant
[15:27] <Laurenceb_> I missed the eurofighter?
[15:27] <SpeedEvil> http://imgur.com/gallery/kgzrfr1
[15:28] <SpeedEvil> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1727472
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[15:28] <SpeedEvil> he also did a full build thread.
[15:28] <SpeedEvil> It would have been quite difficult I suspect to get close to that performance with actual proper thrust vector electric jets
[15:28] <SpeedEvil> especially flight times
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[16:01] <Lunar_Lander> HELLO
[16:02] <Lunar_Lander> oh sorry :D
[16:06] <fsphil> ssssh :)
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[16:11] <Lunar_Lander> :)
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[16:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03hr_v_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=hr_v_chase
[16:30] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb_: Also - I note 'landed hard on the drone ship' != ditched in the sea near the drone ship after running out of fuel
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[16:32] <Laurenceb_> yeah
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[17:22] Nick change: lilafisc1 -> lilafisch
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[17:56] <Laurenceb_> obviously they should have used a hot air ballute
[17:57] <SpeedEvil> hexacopter
[17:58] <SpeedEvil> the ballute does look interesting
[17:58] <Laurenceb_> I got as far as writing a matlab sim
[17:58] <Laurenceb_> peak decelleration was 9.6G, but the longitudinal loading on the stage was only half that at burnout
[17:59] <Laurenceb_> in tension rather than compression
[18:00] <Laurenceb_> uses $200k of 3M ceramic fabric
[18:00] <adamgreig> lol nbd then
[18:02] <Laurenceb_> for laughs I tried simulating the "unguided" reentry they seemed to be planning early on
[18:02] <Laurenceb_> looks like itd almost certainly rip apart at ~HAB altitudes
[18:03] <Laurenceb_> dynamic pressure rises _very_ quickly, before it has had chance to get into a stable attitude
[18:05] <Laurenceb_> hot air ballute on a HAB would be fun/funny/xplosive
[18:06] <Laurenceb_> depending on your point of view
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[19:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Test 0101_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Test%200101_chase
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[19:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-1 after 034 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
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[19:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 034 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:59] <clwillingham> Ok, so i seem to be having a lot of trouble with this for some reason, what is the best way to upload payload telemetry if my telemetry receiver is written in javascript?
[20:00] <clwillingham> I tried the jquery couchdb library, but if i just do savedoc in the habitat db i get a 403 forbidden, is there a particular route i should use instead?
[20:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8ELK-1 after 037 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
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[20:03] <lz1dev> clwillingham: have you read the docs?
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[20:05] <clwillingham> yeah, i've been reading through them, i'm relatively new to CouchDB so i might be missing something, but should i be saving a doc? or should i somehow be sending my base64 encoded raw data to the parser somehow?
[20:06] <lz1dev> save a doc, but it needs to be in a very specific format
[20:07] <clwillingham> i tried following this format: http://habitat.habhub.org/jse/#schemas/payload_telemetry.json
[20:07] <lz1dev> thats the one
[20:08] <lz1dev> pastebin what you are sending somewhere
[20:11] <clwillingham> Oh wait, i think i just got it figured out. it was returning "receivers is a required property". completely forgot to add receivers
[20:13] <clwillingham> here's the actual packet by the way: http://pastebin.com/9xyq0hGT
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[20:14] <clwillingham> with _raw decoded below
[20:17] <lz1dev> doesn't contain all the required fields
[20:18] <lz1dev> http://habitat.habhub.org/monocle/?uri=habitat/da1346dc230ce8b5d01b992dc6e0bafe5bbacecb0d83a27cf9e7699055515a0b
[20:18] <lz1dev> here is a complete one
[20:21] <clwillingham> that is actually exactly what i was looking for, thanks!
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[20:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03imsp_chase_car_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=imsp_chase_car_chase
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[20:34] <clwillingham> can i use ISO8601 for the datetime format? or does it have to be RFC3339
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[20:44] <lz1dev> clwillingham: just follow what it says in the schema to the word or it wont work
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[21:05] <clwillingham> Ok, so i managed to save a doc: http://habitat.habhub.org/monocle/?uri=habitat/c82d18d897bf2e7abcbc2cf3a27c4346e586b206515417770b4051e29f123d4f
[21:06] <clwillingham> should i be giving it more to parse? or should i be parsing it manually?
[21:07] <clwillingham> ah, nevermind, i thaught it automatically filled in the rest for a moment
[21:08] <lz1dev> it will get parsed if there is a payload doc
[21:08] <lz1dev> see http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/
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[21:14] <clwillingham> Well, i did create a payload with Genpayload and gave it the callsign ALCHAB1
[21:14] <lz1dev> i believe \n is required at the end
[21:18] <clwillingham> well, now i got more interesting errors :-P
[21:19] <clwillingham> i gave it a fallback payload callsign also
[21:21] <clwillingham> this is what it returned: http://pastebin.com/U2NGbXz6
[21:26] <lz1dev> look at the timestamp
[21:27] <lz1dev> clwillingham: you need \n at the end of your sentence
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[21:33] <clwillingham> Ok, so i just added the '\n' (i had it before the checksum by accident). Should the timestamp be UTC? or local?
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[21:35] <lz1dev> you want UTC relaly
[21:48] <clwillingham> Ok, i think i got it parsing UTC, i have a crc16-ccitt checksum and then a \n at the very end of the sentance
[21:51] <clwillingham> now i'm still getting "All attempts to parse failed" and "CantExtractCallsign exception in simple_binary: CantExtractCallsign"
[21:53] <clwillingham> Oh, also now getting "Exception in UKHAS main parse: ValueError: Invalid CRC16-CCITT checksum."
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[22:02] <clwillingham> God Dangit, i just figured out what the issue was... it should probably be documented that the checksum does not include the $$
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[22:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ALCHAB1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ALCHAB1
[22:10] <clwillingham> HA
[22:10] <clwillingham> YES!!
[22:11] <clwillingham> that only took 6 hours :-P
[22:11] <lz1dev> gj
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[22:56] <daveake> !wiki communication protocol
[22:56] <SpacenearUS> 03daveake: No results for your query
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[22:59] <daveake> Stupid bot, anyway it is documented ukhas.org.uk/communication:protocol
[22:59] <daveake> If only he hung around long enough to find out ...
[23:02] <lz1dev> .wiki communications protocol
[23:02] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: No results for your query
[23:02] <daveake> We all fail
[23:02] <lz1dev> docuwiki fails imho
[23:03] <lz1dev> .wiki protocol
[23:03] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Found 034 results for you query - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/start?do=search&id=protocol
[23:04] <daveake> Close:-)
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[23:32] <DL7AD> ping fsphil. i managed it to sample a BW image. but is it possible to transmit a BW image instead of a color image?
[23:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BENNY_1_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BENNY_1_chase
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[23:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03habby_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=habby_chase
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